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cv boot and sway bar link

Once I get the parts (next week sometime...) I am hoping someone can help me walk through pulling the CV to replace the outer boot on an 07 FJC. Still deciding whether to put the sway bar back on. Thx, Eric

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So, I'm guessing they denied covering it under warranty huh?

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Eric we need to form a mob AND STORM TOYOTA! Swaybars just don't fail. Oh well can't fight the man.

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The tech said he would replace it under warranty, but the service manager and the district manager wouldn't let him. They cited that I was driving off-road (OMG!), that I had TC UCA's that allow for out-of-spec travel and they found a contact point on the link. I was told to call Toyota's 800 number and b!tch, but I don't expect that to change anything anytime soon.

So the boot kit is @ $30.00, the sway bar link $90.00 (how special is that??) and they wanted to charge me $400.00+ for labor...

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Eric we need to form a mob AND STORM TOYOTA! Swaybars just don't fail. Oh well can't fight the man.
Yeah, the service tech just stood there shaking his head, saying, "I woulda done it for ya, but..." It sucks that his bosses went out of their way to find a way NOT to cover it while he went out of his way to find a way TO cover it.

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Keep it off...it'll just happen again. The links on my truck were bent pretty bad, you can either mod the linkage using a horizontal bolt or a heim joint if you want to get fancy, or even fab up a simple disconnect. I'm on the fence whether to reinstall mine with a disco or not.
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I really hate to say this because I LOVE trail body damage. But it probably didn't help your cause on this one. Maybe not. But I could just see the head cheese shaking his head at the overall of your truck. He probably exlusively drives a lexus and doesn't like to be bothered with FJ (or Toyota) riffraff. Especially the ones who get their vehicles, dare I say it, dirty.

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It is not the authority of the service manager to decide what is covered or not. Bring it to Denver and I will have to fix it for you under warranty.
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The tech said he would replace it under warranty, but the service manager and the district manager wouldn't let him. They cited that I was driving off-road (OMG!), that I had TC UCA's that allow for out-of-spec travel and they found a contact point on the link. I was told to call Toyota's 800 number and b!tch, but I don't expect that to change anything anytime soon.

So the boot kit is @ $30.00, the sway bar link $90.00 (how special is that??) and they wanted to charge me $400.00+ for labor...
Damn - that sucks. The off-road argument holds no water for me (I mean the whole FJ marketing machine is about taking the trucks off-road), but I can somewhat understand the TC UCA argument. It is true you've modified the suspension geometry, which could create added stress on the links.

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Eric, Maybe we could get together and have a FJ wrench-a-thon. My Inchworm Lefty should be delivered by UPS tomorrow. We could fix yours and mod mine.

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I was told to call Toyota's 800 number and b!tch, but I don't expect that to change anything anytime soon.
Do it. While the dealership is usually your best bet as they have a more direct interest in your future cash outlays, Toyota IS interested in keeping you as a customer. Use the words "this will affect my future car buying decisions" regularly. Also, be sure to include that you participate on several Toyota based forums.

When I had the 50N recall done on my truck, the dealer said I would have to pay for new tie rods (the whole thing, both ends and the adjuster), pitman arm, and idler arm. Based on reports from Yotatech, and a post of the actual recall from Toyota, I thought that a bit excessive. To make a long story short, I paid all that, immediately contacted Toyota, faxed them the info they requested and eventually got a check for the whole thing. It takes them some time, but in my experience, Toyota does the right thing in the end.

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Keep it off...it'll just happen again. The links on my truck were bent pretty bad, you can either mod the linkage using a horizontal bolt or a heim joint if you want to get fancy, or even fab up a simple disconnect. I'm on the fence whether to reinstall mine with a disco or not.
Yeah, Bandi in the blue room said he might have some heims that would work, but I'm still undecided. I ordered all the necessary goodies and they should be in GWS on Monday if I need them.

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I really hate to say this because I LOVE trail body damage. But it probably didn't help your cause on this one. Maybe not. But I could just see the head cheese shaking his head at the overall of your truck. He probably exlusively drives a lexus and doesn't like to be bothered with FJ (or Toyota) riffraff. Especially the ones who get their vehicles, dare I say it, dirty.
Definitely a double-edged sword... the techs thought it was cool and they should take care of it. The desk jockeys followed protocol to keep the numbers nice and neat.

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It is not the authority of the service manager to decide what is covered or not. Bring it to Denver and I will have to fix it for you under warranty.
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Damn - that sucks. The off-road argument holds no water for me (I mean the whole FJ marketing machine is about taking the trucks off-road), but I can somewhat understand the TC UCA argument. It is true you've modified the suspension geometry, which could create added stress on the links.
Yup, drive off-road, but only the way we do it... I'm hoping TC will chime in at some point, b/c I asked them about these possibilities and was assured there wouldn't be any problems...

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Eric, Maybe we could get together and have a FJ wrench-a-thon. My Inchworm Lefty should be delivered by UPS tomorrow. We could fix yours and mod mine.

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Now that's just too cool! This weekend is house hunting in Denver time, the 17-20 I'm in San Fran, the 25/26th was perhaps a Holy Cross weekend, but I ain't going until I get the boot back on...

And I hear you Troy, I'll give them a call. Too bad they don't empower their employees to do the right thing instead of making the customer do the leg work.

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Eric,

Do you want to try to figure out how to get that 35mm socket of mine that you'll need for that axle nut? If you're going to Denver, you'll probably take I-70, right? If you don't get things together early in the week, I have Wednesday off with the exception of needing to be home by 6pm.....

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Hey Eric you and i should tag team the front range for work and warranty stuff. Ill bet the front range would love to be able to work on our trucks.

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Do you want to try to figure out how to get that 35mm socket of mine that you'll need for that axle nut? If you're going to Denver, you'll probably take I-70, right? If you don't get things together early in the week, I have Wednesday off with the exception of needing to be home by 6pm.....
Aah, you are so very kind! I'm driving down there Sat/Sun and back again on Sun/Mon, so I'll give you a buzz if it'll be at a reasonable hour!

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Hey Eric you and i should tag team the front range for work and warranty stuff. Ill bet the front range would love to be able to work on our trucks.
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How did this go from your torn cv boot to the official CoTTORA stip club thread.

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Eric;
Since this is a relatively new Total Chaos application, perhaps they have had other problems similar to this, and perhaps they're keeping them quiet to avoid a large scale recall. You should contact them.
Total Chaos is a much smaller organization than Toyota. Perhaps they'll absorb some of the cost if you apply some pressure. You're much more likely to be able to contact the Big Kahuna at TC than anybody at Toyota with the power to help you. Remember, in customer service for any business, if you make enough noise you'll usually get what you want. Good luck homey.
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Funny you should ask! Here's TC's response to my inquiry:

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Thank you for your inquiry with Total Chaos Fabrication Inc. Most of the aftermarket shock manufacturers (Donahoe, King, Sway A Way , etc) supply a spacer to drop the sway bar with their coilovers or even a new sway bar ( Sway A Way ). We do not make any kind of sway bar drop as the UCA’s do not effect the sway bar’s performance, it is all effected by the coilover or spacer installed. The shock is the limiting factor for droop wheel travel, when a spacer is used, the suspension will cycle further than it is designed to. This is what caused the sway bar end link to fail. Generally it is the upper Balljoint that suffers from this over-extension, hence the need for a new UCA. As far as Toyota labeling our UCA as an unacceptable modification, we have several Toyota dealerships (Northridge Toyota is the largest) that not only install our UCA’s but warranty the trucks that run them. Please feel free to contact us with any other questions or concerns that you may have.



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Thanks for the homey support! Figure something out soon. Eric

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Well, got the parts ordered and are in at Bighorn in GWS.

$81 sway bar link
$35 boot kit
$35 inner and outer seals

Now if I only had time to pick them up!

I gotta get the CV boot replaced since I've already burned 1000+ miles into it uncovered, so I guess I'm dropping the rig off at Bighorn for the entire next week so they can work on it as time allows.

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I can't think of what these are. Might they be metal dust seals on either end of the CV axle?

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I'm not certain, but I asked them to give me anything that might get f'ed up so I wouldn't get stuck with it apart and have to replace something in the middle of the fix.

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Good to cover as many bases as you can....so you're going to have Bighorn do the fix?

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I don't really have a choice. I don't have a day off or place or expertise to do it myself and I'm concerned that if I keep driving it I'll F it up more

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Eric can you hold off till a week and a half from now? If stagecoach is cool with it we can all help you fix it in steamboat the weekend of the 23rd/24th. Troy and I are going to steamboat that weekend and we could really do that wrench-a-thon after all. I seriously bet your rig would be fine till then. Plus we have the 35mm socket!

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Are you talking about Sat/Sun August 24/25th? If so that might work. The problem I'm running into is potentially having to take that time to house shop, missing your help and then perpetually not getting it done.

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Well if we plan it can get done. I will call you and Tony tonight. It needs to get done. Both you and Tony!

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Clarification: We don't have a 35mm socket for the newer trucks - just the 54mm for the older ones.

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