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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-26-2012, 08:53 PM Thread Starter
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Want to up grade.

So on my 4runner Im looking at either locking the rear diff or a set of bud built skids before moab. Looking at lockright or Detroit dont really want to break the bank on an elocker or ARB. Anyone have any experience with either with on road driving and what not. This is the first 4x4 I have wheeled without an elocker so I dont know what moab will be like with out one. Im taking both my sways off once I get out there and I have a winch. Just want to get some input.
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Personally if I had to pick between skids or a locker I would go skids.

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I was just thinking locker because I flexed up on a boulder last week it was hard to get over when on 3 wheels due to power loss with an auto and bigger tires. I think the sway bars off will keep tires on the ground. I agree I want skids I just want some input. Thanks!
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The locker will definately get you farther, right to the place where you really wish you had a good skid

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I started out with a Lockright on my first Tacoma. Never had any problems. Was inexpensive and lasted for years.

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You could buy the skids and weld the spiders. When it comes locker time, the welded spiders get tossed out and the new locker goes in their place.
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Well lockers will get you outta a hole, if not you get pulled out. If you dont got skids the damage isn't getting pulled out...right?
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Lockers will take you all the places skids are needed. I went lockers,lift tires on my first build.... After the cab and bed swap I went with armor lol

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post #9 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-27-2012, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah I didnt do skids on my Tacoma. I had other armor. The only armor I need on my 4 runner is a rear bumper and skids. I just felt that with out a locker Moab might be a little rough. I locked a lot with my Tacoma out there.
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If you do decide to go with a locker, I've been happy with my Detroit. Do you have an auto or manual tranny? I've had good luck being able to coast through corners or go light on the gas to avoid chirping tires around town, but I don't know if that works as well with an auto.

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I'm an auto which is why I was worried about the detroit because I live in Denver. We shall see what I do. I just got my cb fixed so I'm chipping away slowly at what I need to finish this build.
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I say get the locker first. Just pick good lines and keep the tires on the rocks. As for the sway bar, lose the front but I recommend keeping the rear. I have seen drive shafts lose weights because of hitting the gas tank. There are some tippy spots that keeping the rear will help with also.
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I'd suggest the other option.. sliders, then locker later. My thinking is driving with no locker will make you pay attention to the line you're taking. This pays off big time the more you build your truck.

The sliders will help keep the damage down while you're working thru the learning curve

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I've never driven an auto-locker behind a auto tranny. I have a lock-rite in my 85, it's manual and learning when to give it some gas and when to let it coast took me a bit (I'm kind of a slow learner tho)... figuring it out with an auto shouldn't be that bad.

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Ok here is my mod list as my 4 runner sits. It is almost done really all I need is locker re geared skids and rear bumper.
Ok so I sold my 2007 Tacoma to a friend. I had a 92 toyota pick up that I just sold. I recently purchased a 2000 4runner limited. I dont really have much to do to it so here is the mod list that I know of. Im still finding things out about it.

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I'm thinking skids then locker. I think I'll re gear when I do locker. I have my winch to pull me through the things I need help with.

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Before this I had an elocked 07 tacoma trd with about all the same stuff that is done to my 4runner. I wheel just about every weekend when I'm off so learning my rig is not really an issue. Im just having trouble spending my money to finish it in the best way possible.
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Do you have a hitch? I ask because I dragged mine on the runner all over moab. It sure saved the bumper!
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I do have a hitch. Yeah I beat mine up on my Tacoma out there too.
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I say go with the skids and do gears and the locker at the same time later down the road

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^^^ I agree with Dot. I just went through the same decisions with my 02 Taco. I need to fix the rear elocker and install a front locker, but instead I went with a full set of skids from Skid Row. I am going to get some sliders and winch yet this year, then next year I will go with the lockers and maybe a regear. I personally think the armor is more important than lockers when playing in the rocks!
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post #20 of 29 (permalink) Old 04-05-2012, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
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I'm going locker. I have some protection. I'm going locker gears 35's and skids will be in there at some point. I just flipped my runner over the weekend so I'm taking it in to some paint and windshield tomorrow. Already have new doors on it. I've decided open open sucks for me : \
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Nice. How's it looking? I want to see some pictures...
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Its going in for paint tomorrow. I put red doors that I found at yoda Jim's. I'll get some pics up after paint. Should be all good for Moab. Thinking about getting the arb locker and maybe a TG bumper before Moab though.
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I second the arb. That's what I want, and have wanted for years. It's just that if I'm going into the diffs then its gears and lockers and a pretty penny. Then, should I just give it a sac instead of doing all this ifs maintenance. Wish I could just fab them.
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Anyone know of a place that paints cheap but does prep work? I can't see paying maaco $800-1000 with no prep work and no door jams painted for a flat black paint job.
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Getting paint done is expensive. Only real cheap way is to do it yourself. I know vwfastg60 knows a few people who paint but don't know if they would be any cheaper.

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Thanks, yeah painting is not cheap. I have a buddy who does it in the springs but is swamped. He would not be able to paint it till after next month.
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Anyone know the best place/cheapest place to pick up a new Detroit locker?
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Anyone know the best place/cheapest place to pick up a new Detroit locker?
Some guy on craigslist is selling an e-locked rear axle with 4.56 gears.

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