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Old 04-12-2009, 04:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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help bender ?s

where is the bend a thon thread? bear i here you have a "modified hf bender....whats the part number and mod? i am on a mission to build a tube bed and possibly a semi cage maybe..........thanks!
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What part of the state are you in?

I broke my back so I cant really do any work for awhile...anyway I have two JD2 benders w/ 1.75 and 1.5 dies you could use if you are anywhere near me.
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i am in elwood. it is north central indiana.... u?
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Sorry nate, the thread name changed to project rockster. Basically, take the HF bender dies the next size down from the size tubing you are using, and grind it out to fit th OD of the tube you are using. get some silica sand to pack the tube with, and bend away!
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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so grind down the 1.5 if using 1.75 tube? is it the model with jack or the one with handwheel?
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I used the 12 ton jack model. I believe they have a 16 ton version as well. Oh, here ya go too:
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...9&keycode=0000

We ground out the 1.25 pipe die for 1.5 mechanical tubing. Why you using 1.75" ? Sounds like alot of overkill...everyone else seems to use 1.5", .120 wall.

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Old 04-13-2009, 07:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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no 1.5 is fine, just thought id match the sliders/front bumper. but 1.5 will work for me. i dont wana go broke doing this so i am thinking of making bed frame outa steel , then the floor and stuff possibly composite decking instead of regular treated lumber? opinions?
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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i like the look of that kit^ i should be able to make it cheaper than 500 bucks even buying myself a bender right?
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I've been getting 24'-6" sticks of 1.5", .120 wall for around $70, so yeah you can do it way cheaper.
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where are you getting it? what type? dom or hrew?
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AAA steel supply here by me. ASTM A-500, this is the basic standard for mechanical tubing which dictates the material properties, yield, etc.

I have been getting HREW, DOM is more $$$, but stronger, not material property wise, but because it hase no weld seam. HREW will be fine, the only real thing we use DOM for here at work, is boiler piping and hydraulic systems.

If the bed is braced/gusseted right, the tubing shouldn't flex enough to split a weld seam.

You can also "orient" the seams to remove them from the principal stress plane for the tube location within the bed. TMI probably, I know, can't help it sometimes.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:09 AM   #12 (permalink)
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my local supply has 24-6 1.5x.120 for 70.81 a piece so i am good there, they also sell drops for 60cents a pound
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Nate, try Warner steel for your metal "Y" turned me on to them and it has worked out pretty good so far. Their drop is $.50 a pound and they have it organized pretty well also.

As for the Harbor Freight bender, "Y" also has mine right now, but he won't have it for very long, so if you are not quite ready for your project, and can wait a bit, you can use mine that already has the die modified.

But I also know the homemade bender projects isn't a bad idea either, just gets expensive due to having to buy the dye.
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if you would let me use yours then i need not spend extra money buying one. we all are on a budget right now, how long befroe he may be done? i need to get my bed off and "touch up" my frame and prep.
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I am not sure how long Bryan is going to have the bender, I do know he was waiting for it from when NWI was borrowing it, so I am not going to rush him over it.

But you are welcome to use it, I rather be used than collecting dust.

I do have a couple of projects I need to work on before take Over, but we have plenty of time, so if you want to borrow it, the timing is pretty good, as long as you can wait for Bryan to finish up which it sounds like you might be able with your touch up stuff.
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i am not wanting to rush anyone either, but if he needs it for awhile, i may go get one from hf....let me kno, i do appreciate it.........
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They are only like 79.99 at HF then with the coupon...make one set of doors/sliders for someone, and like AC/DC says your "Back in Black"!
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hey mark, how are you notching the tube?
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Just go to the hardware store and get a bi-metal hole saw. Like $10 for an 1.5" diameter. Just go slow and use cutting oil. Works great!
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hf has a notcher for 50 bucks
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i am not wanting to rush anyone either, but if he needs it for awhile, i may go get one from hf....let me kno, i do appreciate it.........
I'll talk to Bryan today/tonight and check his plans. I don't think it should be an issue though for anyone.

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Just go to the hardware store and get a bi-metal hole saw. Like $10 for an 1.5" diameter. Just go slow and use cutting oil. Works great!
Hmmm I wonder where you got the "slow and cutting oil" idea from?
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can you give me a link to the notcher? I believe it is not much more than a vice that holds your drill and material in place. But I could be wrong
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basically you r correct, but it also has angle finder on it and may make it easier to get it right???
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42324
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It's your money, but I think a $10 hole saw, a vice (already have) and a $10 angle finder is cheaper than that notcher.

I am not sure how it would work off a drill press as they have illustrated, like I said, for a hole saw, and the two other existing tools I already have, it is cheaper just to go "primitive" for your notching.
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thanks....save me $$
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mark for some reason my puter wont print the sku/barcode for the coupon???
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If your vice is like mine, you can rotate it around to basically any angle as well, then drill straight off that mark.

I do my notches this way, and double check the angle with my angle finder which I bought from Lowes for $9.99 if I remember the price right (it even has a magnet on it that sticks pretty good to my tubing)
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ok, got it to print. also i dont have a drill press thats why i thought it may work out better
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I really like the notcher. Unfortunaely I dont have a drill press either.

Looks like it would help on some of the "longer" notches for the smaller joint angles. You can simplify the notching of said "long" notches by using a longer pilot bit to pierce both sides of the tube first to set the angle of the hole saw prior to the hole saw portion hitting the tube.

Nate thy getting to the coupon through this link, it might generate a new sku every time you link to it. And print out a few, make seperate purchases and save on every item

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