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Old 06-25-2008, 02:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It may take me a year or two to complete.....but im starting the thread .......... the thread for what? well when i post pics tomorrow......you'll understand. Be afraid.........be vvveeerrrryyy afraid........cause i know i am.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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First step, wirebrush it and get it cleaned up.
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Old 06-26-2008, 02:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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time frame: next summer i plan on the welding to start (optimistically), i should have the parts collected by then.

I just pm'd Wyatt for his advice........leafs would be easier, but i want to do it right and with a 3-link (with panhard) already done, im thinking it would help to follow in their footsteps, im not going to re-invent the wheel here, so to start with....all the credit goes to Wyatt for doing it first. That being said.........i forsee me copying ALOT of what they did.
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Old 06-27-2008, 03:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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as far as buying parts you won't find a better deal than you Local Advance-Auto Parts.........I'll take care of that part.
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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.....if a front drive shaft lets go you can loose an oil pan, radiator, etc.
good point
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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updates are in order.....

axle is 50% cleaned up (counting rust-busting and pulled apart for parts cleanup) and is disassembled down to the spindles, i borrowed an air hammer from a buddy in town....maybe i can use Jason's air compressor next weekend.



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Old 07-02-2008, 11:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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updates are in order.......



spring perch and shock mounts have been cut off, axle is cleaned and primered all the way out to the knuckles. After the holiday, spindles come off and by the end of the month i should be putting in the Superior 4340 Axles and.......if i can afford it....CTM crosses.



































and oh yeah, Jason.....i toasted your grinder so i got you the newer version.
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I see you are going with only the "good stuff", excellent!

oh and if you build your own brackets as I did, expect to go through a couple more grinders!

where did you find the CTM's? and pm me the price if you don't mind.
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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just checked online jeep university and they say that the d44 80-91 years were 62.5" WMS. Ill go home and compare to what my rear is after work today.
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Old 07-07-2008, 11:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I can't remember the price, but check out that Sunfire offroad. They provided a gift certificate for our Xmas raffle. They are also the place I got my chromoly shafts from. I think he might have a better price but can't be certain. Might also mention TTORA. I am not sure but I think he said something about possibly offering a discount.
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Old 07-07-2008, 11:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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another thing I was thinking is with the first generation Tacos going SAS, a lot of the guys use wheel spacers in the rear to match the foot print of the rear up with the new waggy axle they put under the front, as the waggy axle was wider to begin with.

I on the other hand did not bother with it as I figured once I put the 37's on it would not matter, in which I was right.

My point though is with the newer generation tacos, the waggy axle maybe more of a better fit than with the first generation.

I understand Todd saying the issue may be with the coil/link set up but I think with a little bit of care the axle Brian already has can be worked in, under the truck.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I can't say for a fact that I gained turning radius after putting my axle on. but I do know that after putting my hydro assist ram on, I did. Which I thought very strange since I went with trail gears 6" ram instead of the conventional 8" ram most everyone else is using.

Before putting the ram on I did not rub the frame, now I rub the frame if I am not careful with the 6" ram.
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:03 PM   #14 (permalink)
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im inclined to think that with a worst case scenario of 3" spacers in front (making the wms 65.5") it would be ok. As my truck sits now i have a 3" to play with in the back (2 x 1.5" spacers) i just need to stop being lazy and measure the back axle already. As fas as getting the ride height down, im thinking of going conservative on the coilovers (height wise) and soft on the spring rates.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i went back thru one of the articles on the Demello truck, when 4wdTO asked him if he would change anything he said Currie was going to building a set of custom 70" axles for it. so that would lead me to believe his at least a couple inches under on each side, maybe somewhere around 64"-65" mark.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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will do. next up is taking a air chisel to the spindles.....20+ years of rust has made them a biyach to get off.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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just measured....05+ Taco rear WMS is.......65". so with the 1.5" spacers in front.....the front d44 which is 62.5" WMS will become......65.5"





in otherwords...it'll fit. So, now....onto the next order of business. (the spindles)
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:22 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Spindles came off with the use of an air chisel and a dead blow hammer.......and some Shiner. Thanks Dustin and Jason!
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heh heh......heh heh heh heh.................i just checked the number on my d44 on a list on Pirate.......heh heh..............its a widetrack d44





610139
81-85 J10 J20 Widetrack Cher.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:40 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I believe the owners name is Steve. He has a guy working there that actually is a member of ours. but I haven't seen him on the board lately.

Talk to the owner before deciding, I think he gave me my shafts at jobber cost, which should still be cheaper than what Randy's advertises as well.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
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it needs: chevy outers and custom inners (yipee ) so im probably going to get the outers and some other stuff like maybe pads and rotors or seals then next month the inners.....maybe, we'll see what the budget dictates. And ill do the shafts through Sunfire so i can talk with them if i need to. 8126233473


trans is "R" series with 23 spline output
t-case is lefty with 23 input &output with flanges on both, 2.28:1 ratio w/ electric speedo.

4340 Outers 19spline-9.94" (ordered from SUNFIRE OFFROAD:~200)
4340 Inner(short) 30spline-17.8125" (got this from Dynatrac direct)
NOTE: make this 17.9125 next time
4340 Inner(long) 30spline-34.18"(ordered through SDHQ from Dynatrac)
NOTE: make this 34.28 next time
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are you banking on needing the custom inners due to spline count? If so, everything should be 30 spline.

I have chevy outters and everything inside is stock. no custom anywhere.

please explain the need for custom stuff. I am not understanding and would like to know.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:29 AM   #23 (permalink)
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talked to sunfire offroad and i was telling him the measurements and he could tell that i was abit off on my measurements cause i went to the end of the shaft, not the end of the splines,(a hairs difference but it matters) and he said ill need custom inners and i told him that ill remeasure tonight and then get back to him......he basically knew it was a widetrack 44 before i told him so im inclined to think that he knows what hes talking about...............ya know?
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the few instances Dave and I have dealt with him, we have gotten the exact part we have needed.

I spoke to him one day on the phone last year around Xmas and he seemed to know his shiat big time! I was impressed. It is not easy to know exactly which part is needed by a phone conversation, but he seems to be able to pull it off
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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updates are in order
Ready to have knuckles cut and rotated



Spindles have been cleaned and ready for new seals





Caliper Brackets are next to be cleaned



BTW.....if at first you dont succeed.....get a....


this is what it took to get the knuckles off
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I have a friend that became a friend after I took my axle to him to have the knuckles rotated.

He did that good of a job. Let me know if you want to contact him for a price.

He has been doing that kind of work for closer to 25+ years if he has been in business a day.
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I am sure you have heard me refer to someone with the name of Chris, that's my friends name. Owns Titus Transmission around the corner from my house.

Anyway, best to call him, he is not extremely Internet compliant. He has service and all, but he rather do business over the phone.

phone number is 317/272-4800. Best to call Tuesday-Thursday. Mondays he is swamped, and Friday is the day he tries to get all the work out the door.

Is open on Saturdays until noon.

Don't speak to anyone else in the shop as he is the one that also will be doing the welding.

I think he charged me under $200 to do mine (4 years ago...and memory fades) tell him you are my v.p and it might help with the price...or increase it. depending on how much trouble my truck is causing him currently.
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caliper brackets are done.


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Got the housing painted today.....yeah i know ill have to grind stuff off when fab time comes but i was bored.


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