Really, there were some good guys who helped, not complaind, and bitched about ther precious time, Besides perhaps you should ask why people do the things they do. I was told to follow Andy, he didn't bother to tell me there was a easeir way, remember I had never been on the trail. I told people that upfront. I would have loved to gained some experience on a easer trailI sure didn't get any instructions from you. and the strap I'm sorry ok I thought I met the minimium requirements set by the rules of the trail, and the handout I received And by the way I may be an old fart but I'm not stupid, if I thought foe two seconds you wouldn,t use your insurance well then we know who the studid one is don't we? For those who helped I appricate all they did, and if they did it begrugedly,I'm sorry again. I offered many times to be pulled off the trail because of the badgering I was receiving but I was told don't listen to those people keep going. So perhaps your group should make up your mind as what you do with an ill perpared, non experienced old fart, who has a FJ with a faulty rear end. just trying to keep up. Next time make sure only invite people you know, and you know their equipment and have been over that trail. Then you only have to fight among friends.