Koala's Attacked My Tacoma!!!

[PappaF2]

They ate my leafs! :D
But I guess they didn't taste good so they vomited them back up on my drive way, I can't imagine what was wrong with them???
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acf.sized.jpg

So I have been workin on ditching my front leafs in favor of links and coils. I decided to go with a 3 link plus panhard over a triangulated 4 link or radius arms. I figure if I can't get this to work properly it will be easy enough to convert to radius arms. :) I am doing this conversion in order to acomplish a few things: 1) to keep the truck at a low suspension lift height withough compromising ride 2) to improve the ride for normal everyday driving, soft leafs = poopy ride 3) improve stability on and off road 4) hopefully let me haul a bit more ass in the desert, last time with leafs going fast it wasn't pretty.
I will say though that I was never disapointed with how much articulation my truck had, I would actually venture to say I may even loose some flex with links compared to my leafs but the hopefully improved stability should make up for it.
For joints on this setup I am running rubicon express joints at the frame and pro comp yj bushings at the axle, which have studs welded on them for length/caster adjustments.
The upper arm is located on the passenger side just squeezing inbetween the frame and exhaust. It's mounted with a sleeve through the frame and will have another mount off the tcase crossember. The upper is a peice of 1 1/4"x 0.188 wall DOM sleeved with a peice of seamed 1.5" x 0.120 wall. The upper mount on the axle is still going to be revised some, I need to figure out exactly how I want it to be.
The lowers are mounted to the frame with a bracket welded to the bottom of the frame inboarding them. They are made out of 1.875" x 0.375" DOM, didn't want to bend them. :D In this pic you can kindof see both mounting points.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/aci.sized.jpg
I have had to convert to low steer due to clearance issues with my tierod/draglink/panhard bar/and panhard bar axle mount. As for now I have a cheesy setup just to keep the wheels strait but I will replace the tie rod with something beefy.
I chose to use coils captured on both ends and seperate shocks instead of coilovers. While coilovers are awsome their price tag drove me away from them along with the fact that it would be a bit different to use the sepreate coils and they may add added stability over coilovers, but that remains to be seen. I am using eibach springs that are made to go on a 2" coilover to try to keep the amount of spacethey take up minimal. They still take up more mounting room than a coilover but they are alot less than a typical TJ coil. The springs I am using have a 16" free height and a 250# spring rate. To get an Idea of what the taco would look like I temporarily mounted the coils last night, keep in mind I will be adding a raised coil mount on the axle. Its all a pretty tight fit.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acl.sized.jpg

More work will be done soon, I know I left a bunch of stuff out so if you have any specific questions or comments let me know.

[PappaF2]

oh ya becarful when using angle grinders they like the taste of flesh! :eek: Even through my mechanics gloves the wire wheel on the grinder took a bite out of me!

http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/ace.sized.jpg

[Fishbone]

Why';s it always gotta be the thumb? :confused:

[PappaF2]

Why';s it always gotta be the thumb? :confused:
I dunno, but I have gotten several fingers lately, the problem with the wire wheel attachment is that unlike the grinder disks which cauterize (sp?) when they cut you the wire wheel just shreds flesh. :xbarf:

[Mez]

Ya that doesnt look good.. an old co-worker just recently cut off his thumb with a skilsaw, damn blade guards ;)

[hytenor]

oh ya becarful when using angle grinders they like the taste of flesh! :eek: Even through my mechanics gloves the wire wheel on the grinder took a bite out of me!



ouch! :eek:
my table got me several months ago...first wood shop carnage in a lot of years. funny, it looked very similar ;)

[Oppositeboy]

Sweet! Keep it up Todd (not mangling flesh... the coil swap).

[snowchucker]

damn...you've been busy. are u down here in danville/ sr or up in sac working on it??
for gloves throw away those mechanix pieces of crap, go to Barnes welding supply and pick up some of their cheap leather gloves..$4 a pair, and they'll last a while. i have killed a few pairs of mechanix gloves in one day.

[PappaF2]

damn...you've been busy. are u down here in danville/ sr or up in sac working on it??
for gloves throw away those mechanix pieces of crap, go to Barnes welding supply and pick up some of their cheap leather gloves..$4 a pair, and they'll last a while. i have killed a few pairs of mechanix gloves in one day.
actually I'm working on it at my dads house in Concord, I just moved out of Sac. Last week and back to the bay.
Actually they were not the mechanix gloves but these contractor gloves that are similar from homedepot. They have held up better and are 1/2 the cost as the MEchanix brand. Good tip on the leather ones from barnes though, I probably should pick up a pair.

[PappaF2]

Sweet! Keep it up Todd (not mangling flesh... the coil swap).
thanks brian, I am trying to keep the mangling of flesh to a minimum. :D

[Dick Foster]

CostCo has some light weight leather gloves. I think they come in three or four packs cheap. Good gloves, light enough to not hamper but heavy enough to protect.

[tacodab]

looks nice Todd. cant wait to see it in person. I should be up and wheeeeeeeling by September, just in time for winter again :(

You thinking about Moab this year?

[PappaF2]

looks nice Todd. cant wait to see it in person. I should be up and wheeeeeeeling by September, just in time for winter again :(

You thinking about Moab this year?
thanks dean, I am thinking about moab, I really wanna go. I have to see because katy and I are planning on going to europe right before that, so I am going to try to be back for moab. :D
Hows the leg feeling now? Will you be able to ride shot gun on some wheelng trips this summer?

[hytenor]

thanks dean, I am thinking about moab, I really wanna go. I have to see because katy and I are planning on going to europe right before that, so I am going to try to be back for moab. :D
Hows the leg feeling now? Will you be able to ride shot gun on some wheelng trips this summer?
winter, hell, I have a bunch of days off in Sept and plan on heading up to the shaver area so you'd better be ready for that ;)

[hytenor]

thanks dean, I am thinking about moab, I really wanna go. I have to see because katy and I are planning on going to europe right before that, so I am going to try to be back for moab. :D
Hows the leg feeling now? Will you be able to ride shot gun on some wheelng trips this summer?
Europe?? dang, talk about a long drive, LOL :p

What countries are you going to?

[PappaF2]

Europe?? dang, talk about a long drive, LOL :p

What countries are you going to?
Ya Actually my next mod are some pontoons. :D We are planning on going to Greece, Italy, and France. We'll see.

[hytenor]

Ya Actually my next mod are some pontoons. :D We are planning on going to Greece, Italy, and France. We'll see.

sounds like fun, have a great trip!

[Dick Foster]

Chris did you see the thread where the guy is going to junk several cars soon and a couple of Ford picks are listed. BTW AJ says he has or can get his hands on a high pinion housing. Then all you would need is the third member bones. You'd want to stuff is will all the good shit anyway. Either an ARB or an Electrac come with a new carrier.

[hytenor]

Chris did you see the thread where the guy is going to junk several cars soon and a couple of Ford picks are listed. BTW AJ says he has or can get his hands on a high pinion housing. Then all you would need is the third member bones. You'd want to stuff is will all the good shit anyway. Either an ARB or an Electrac come with a new carrier.

haven't seen the thread (link?) but AJ emailed me about his casing. If that will work I can just order a ARB stuffed 3rd it and the rest of the 'guts' of the thing and be ready to go as far as front axle goes. I will definitely go with ARB since everything is already plummed for the front.

[Mez]

haven't seen the thread (link?)

link here (http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11381) ;)

[Dick Foster]

That shouldn't be any hinderance to an upstanding post whore such as yourself. Geez don't go NOOB on me now.

[hytenor]

That shouldn't be any hinderance to an upstanding post whore such as yourself. Geez don't go NOOB on me now.

how can I waste my time scrolling through want adds when I have to keep the post count up? :p

[Dick Foster]

You better keep it up too. I'm closing on Mike pretty fast now, then you're my next target.

[hytenor]

You better keep it up too. I'm closing on Mike pretty fast now, then you're my next target.

bring it on, sucka!

[Dick Foster]

Like I said before, you could have an accident or something. I know some people that ......... LOL

[hytenor]

Like I said before, you could have an accident or something. I know some people that ......... LOL

I know Russian mafia contacts... :cool:

[tacodab]

thanks dean, I am thinking about moab, I really wanna go. I have to see because katy and I are planning on going to europe right before that, so I am going to try to be back for moab. :D
Hows the leg feeling now? Will you be able to ride shot gun on some wheelng trips this summer?
I may be up for a weekender trip this summer. we will see. Moab would be awsome :) but europe is WAY kick ass. I love the food over there...YUM :)

[tacodab]

haven't seen the thread (link?) but AJ emailed me about his casing. If that will work I can just order a ARB stuffed 3rd it and the rest of the 'guts' of the thing and be ready to go as far as front axle goes. I will definitely go with ARB since everything is already plummed for the front.
so you going to stuff a SA under that rig? HMMMMMM.... coilovers or what?

[Crash]

You better keep it up too. I'm closing on Mike pretty fast now, then you're my next target.

I'm going to start deleting stuff that doesn't have anything to do with the thread posted. That should drop you down to about 100 posts! LOL :xdevil:

[Crash]

Same to you! fucking post whores! hehe

[Dick Foster]

You're just jealous.
Fuckin power crased mods, I swear.

[Crash]

You're just jealous.
Fuckin power crased mods, I swear.

Gawwd you're an idiot! jeeeezz

[Dick Foster]

You really didn't expect me to say nothing did you?
Who's the idiot? LOL

[Crash]

I know your trying to pad your post count. So yeah, I expected it.

[AngryAndy]

Hey Todd...

Truck looks nice, finger looks nice and raw....

PM me, I would love to stop by and take a look at what ya got done in person...since your right down the street apparently!!!!!

Tell Katy I said hello too!

You going to make it on the Rubicon again this year??? And will you be able to eat lasagne this time???? (another words, you still trying to shed pounds in the same manner?)

[DrVic@BallisticFab]

looks beefy, 3/8 wall links?! post a few more pics

[hytenor]

so you going to stuff a SA under that rig? HMMMMMM.... coilovers or what?

yup, got the ok from the finance dept to start collecting parts ;)
The plan is to basically duplicate Dick's rig. I figure to start with the front axle and go from there. The crawler will hopefully be in by July.

[awsumdc]

yup, got the ok from the finance dept to start collecting parts ;)
The plan is to basically duplicate Dick's rig. I figure to start with the front axle and go from there. The crawler will hopefully be in by July.
Make sure you buy lots of gold paint..... :)

[tacodab]

yup, got the ok from the finance dept to start collecting parts ;)
The plan is to basically duplicate Dick's rig. I figure to start with the front axle and go from there. The crawler will hopefully be in by July.
Way cool, congrats :)
now........."Basically duplicate"
Make sure you understand the principals behind why his stuff works before you go making "small adjustments" that will not allow the suspension to articulate correct or just do the 3 link and be golden.
Are you doing the captured C bushing thing and the Bronco bushings on the frame side of the links??

[Dick Foster]

You're smarter than I though you were. LOL

[tacodab]

You're smarter than I though you were. LOL
I hate this fourm, THE DICK....Who are you talking to? gosh! you better just give your truck to Chris while he is doing the swap and then he can just remove parts from your truck as needed LOL :D :p :lmao: :xcrazy: :banghead: :clap: :xbeer1: :bitchslap

[hytenor]

I hate this fourm, THE DICK....Who are you talking to? gosh! you better just give your truck to Chris while he is doing the swap and then he can just remove parts from your truck as needed LOL :D :p :lmao: :xcrazy: :banghead: :clap: :xbeer1: :bitchslap

nah, I would have to trash all the interior fabric because of the smoke ;)

[hytenor]

Way cool, congrats :)
now........."Basically duplicate"
Make sure you understand the principals behind why his stuff works before you go making "small adjustments" that will not allow the suspension to articulate correct or just do the 3 link and be golden.
Are you doing the captured C bushing thing and the Bronco bushings on the frame side of the links??

yes, that's the plan, using a Ford hp axle with Chevy brakes.

[tacodab]

yes, that's the plan, using a Ford hp axle with Chevy brakes.
what about the links and coils and fabbing and stuff and things...sizes, angles, diameters, thickness, ends, connection points, materials, protection....damn that is the same kind of things you ask before producing a pron..LOL....come on man you better get on it :):)

[hytenor]

what about the links and coils and fabbing and stuff and things...sizes, angles, diameters, thickness, ends, connection points, materials, protection....damn that is the same kind of things you ask before producing a pron..LOL....come on man you better get on it :):)

I haven't gotten that far yet ;) I'll start gathering parts and figure out how they all go together later.

[PappaF2]

looks beefy, 3/8 wall links?! post a few more pics
I can post some more pics what exactly do you want pics of? I still plan on taking a bunch more as more gets compleated.


Here is a pic of how I plated the frame on both sides of the truck. These plates are to reinforce the area where the coil buckets and panhard rod will mount.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acn.sized.jpg

Here are a couple pics of the compleated coil buckets, these were pretty fun to build.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/aco.sized.jpg

http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acp.sized.jpg

And here is a pic of the coil "retainers" or the things that will keep the coils trapped on the upper and lower buckets. Basically they are 3/16" plate that was placed on a jig and heated till it was bright orange. Then we pounded the fawkers into submission so they would follow the conture of the springs. They will use a 9/16" bolt to hold them to the mounts on the frame and axle.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acq.sized.jpg

http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acr.sized.jpg

[Dick Foster]

Simpleton, use the hybrid or threaded display mode. What is wrong you with you guys anyway?

Looks like Delphi is down again today or is it just me?

[Dick Foster]

Understand what? It's a very simple concept. All I did was adapt what Ford had already worked out and improved on that a bit since I was not constrained by the economics of mass production.

[PappaF2]

Understand what? It's a very simple concept. All I did was adapt what Ford had already worked out and improved on that a bit since I was not constrained by the economics of mass production.
I think what he means by that is, I may be wrong, but knowing that a radius arm setup is one that binds by virtue of it's design. To allow it to flex you must have some give somewhere. For some that means wristing one arm which providies great flex but less than desierable road manners or for others namely the ford design is you must add a flexible point that can deflect and allow the flex. That would be the ford C bushing. That way the axle is still binding but not enough to stop the bushings from allowing flex. As long as you have some sort of bushings on the radius arm, or wrist one arm you are ok.
HE could also be talking about the way a radius arm causes vast amounts of anti dive due to their design, them having the instant center located right where they mount to the frame. I guess it depends what you want from your suspension setup and if you wish to change it, understanding it can help with that.
Not saying a radius arm suspension won't/doesn't work, I in fact may end up going to radius arms if my current setup doesn't work.

[Dick Foster]

There is not a lot of give in the C bushings but they do provide some isolation. Hell mine are even urethane and urethane has very little if any measurable give. That's why urethane sucks ass for leaf spring bushings. The important bits are to make the links long and the bushing in the rear link attach (rubber) also plays a major role.

[tacodab]

There is not a lot of give in the C bushings but they do provide some isolation. Hell mine are even urethane and urethane has very little if any measurable give. That's why urethane sucks ass for leaf spring bushings. The important bits are to make the links long and the bushing in the rear link attach (rubber) also plays a major role.
the dick, you will never fully understand the reason your truck works....gosh!

[tacodab]

I think what he means by that is, I may be wrong, but knowing that a radius arm setup is one that binds by virtue of it's design. To allow it to flex you must have some give somewhere. For some that means wristing one arm which providies great flex but less than desierable road manners or for others namely the ford design is you must add a flexible point that can deflect and allow the flex. That would be the ford C bushing. That way the axle is still binding but not enough to stop the bushings from allowing flex. As long as you have some sort of bushings on the radius arm, or wrist one arm you are ok.
HE could also be talking about the way a radius arm causes vast amounts of anti dive due to their design, them having the instant center located right where they mount to the frame. I guess it depends what you want from your suspension setup and if you wish to change it, understanding it can help with that.
Not saying a radius arm suspension won't/doesn't work, I in fact may end up going to radius arms if my current setup doesn't work.
Todd
The first part of your statement is what I am referring to.
Although the dick does not want to ever agree with me that the C bushing is the major reason for his suspension working he will not listen. The longer arms and the bushings at the frame connection also play a part. But they all work together to make the system work.
No I am not good at putting all this in writing, but I DO understand how each of these setups work.......now :)
After seeing jeep radius arm setups (bushings on all the connection points) and 3 link and radius arm setups with only one upper link connected. They all work, but have to be applied correctly.....I learned this the hard way with mine. I got lucky in some aspects and thought I had a full understanding of the radius arm setup when in reality I only had about a 75% grasp. I can’t wait to actually try the 3 link out on the trail.....it does work GREAT on the road.
You have any detailed pics of your 3 link or the design concept behind it?

[Dick Foster]

It's was made clear that you sure as hell don't. LOL
I know exactly why it works because I went though all of that Early Bronco stuff before my SAS was even started. It's all right there and is simple geometry. The key bits are the length of the arms, no secret since there are two major aftermarket EB radius arm suppliers and they are both a foot longer than stock. This helps keep them from binding and the angles of the links to the axle are lower and there is much less movement in the rear attach for a given amount of twist. It's just like a big damn sway bar in many respects. The other is the rear bushing allowing for more freedom of motion and twist that heims do not allow. You can say it's the C bushing all you want but if you look at one, you will see that they are not that thick and besides they are made of urethane. Go read some EB boards and you will see that the C bushing has nothing to do with the amount of flex. Damn, you're stubborn and bone headed.

[tacodab]

G Damn it......you got me all serious.....you suck the dick....LOL that sounds funny :):rofl: :xusflag: :D

[Dick Foster]

That's good. You need your heart pumped up for something since you're not getting any now or for the foreseeable future. LOL

[tacodab]

That's good. You need your heart pumped up for something since you're not getting any now or for the foreseeable future. LOL
that is a long long time for me LOL

I did get to yell at a couple people at work today, that was fun :)

[Dick Foster]

I could pic you up and haul you down to one of those sex shops so you can get some aids. I don't think you'd what to send your mom or dad out for that, huh.

[tacodab]

It's was made clear that you sure as hell don't. LOL
I know exactly why it works because I went though all of that Early Bronco stuff before my SAS was even started. It's all right there and is simple geometry. The key bits are the length of the arms, no secret since there are two major aftermarket EB radius arm suppliers and they are both a foot longer than stock. This helps keep them from binding and the angles of the links to the axle are lower and there is much less movement in the rear attach for a given amount of twist. It's just like a big damn sway bar in many respects. The other is the rear bushing allowing for more freedom of motion and twist that heims do not allow. You can say it's the C bushing all you want but if you look at one, you will see that they are not that thick and besides they are made of urethane. Go read some EB boards and you will see that the C bushing has nothing to do with the amount of flex. Damn, you're stubborn and bone headed.
you speak some of the truth but as you should know a message board is not a 100% truth and a bible for all said on any subject. a lot of it is based on what people think is the truth or fact. Speaking of stubborn! THE DICK!!!

Aids is not on my list of things to get in the near future. I need to go to a church function or something and get me a nice gal that is ready to get out of her house and bang non stop for like a week, then figure out it aint what she really wants and then I kick her out of the house and burn her clothing. end of story :):)

[Dick Foster]

Damn it, Dean you have more twist where the links attach to the axle with those heims than I do. Gosh!! :banghead:

Now you're making me grumpy. Don't!!:soapbox:

:confused: How do you get AIDS from a pocket pussy?

[tacodab]

It's was made clear that you sure as hell don't. LOL
I know exactly why it works because I went though all of that Early Bronco stuff before my SAS was even started. It's all right there and is simple geometry. The key bits are the length of the arms, no secret since there are two major aftermarket EB radius arm suppliers and they are both a foot longer than stock. This helps keep them from binding and the angles of the links to the axle are lower and there is much less movement in the rear attach for a given amount of twist. It's just like a big damn sway bar in many respects. The other is the rear bushing allowing for more freedom of motion and twist that heims do not allow. You can say it's the C bushing all you want but if you look at one, you will see that they are not that thick and besides they are made of urethane. Go read some EB boards and you will see that the C bushing has nothing to do with the amount of flex. Damn, you're stubborn and bone headed.
I guess in the end. It all works. Hell what should we care….. Your truck works. my truck works. You can wheel and I can wheel. WTF does it matter how it works.....just wheel :)

damn I am an idiot. the only thing I need to focus on now is getting my foot better.
btw I am building a new/old bumper....yes with a f'ed up foot. I wheel my ass around the garage on a cart. kind of like Eddie Murphy in Trading Places when he was on the 4 wheel cart pushing himself around. Yes that is me :)
http://www.impawards.com/1983/trading_places.html

http://www.norcalttora.com/~dean/bumper/

and yes I stoll some ideas from ya the dick :) thanks man

[tacodab]

Damn it, Dean you have more twist where the links attach to the axle with those heims than I do. Gosh!! :banghead:

Now you're making me grumpy. Don't!!:soapbox:

:confused: How do you get AIDS from a pocket pussy?
OH!!!! pocket pussy....no no no you cant get the Aids from that :)

[tacodab]

Damn it, Dean you have more twist where the links attach to the axle with those heims than I do. Gosh!! :banghead:

Now you're making me grumpy. Don't!!:soapbox:

:confused: How do you get AIDS from a pocket pussy?
and you should know I like to stir the pot hahahahaha!!!!

[tacodab]

I could pic you up and haul you down to one of those sex shops so you can get some aids. I don't think you'd what to send your mom or dad out for that, huh.
I get it now aids not "the AIDS"
should I send you a link so you can get some while you are "by yourself" for the next week or so...LOL
should I remind you of my most favorite quote ever.....
"beads+anus+china+Dick Foster+my curiousity+my fiance+ www.intimategifts.com (http://www.intimategifts.com/) +www.kyjelly.com +creditcard+shower=beads:)" Anthony C.

[Dick Foster]

Yeah I think it finally died down. Yunny chickened out and never did it, that weeney.

Do me a favor and go proof read the T case twin stick prep write up that I just put in the FAQ section and let me know if you find anything. It's a big file because of all the pics, so give it a while to load.

[tacodab]

Yeah I think it finally died down. Yunny chickened out and never did it, that weeney.

Do me a favor and go proof read the T case twin stick prep write up that I just put in the FAQ section and let me know if you find anything. It's a big file because of all the pics, so give it a while to load.
10-4 the dick :) will do
I will let you know what the deal-e-o is and if anything looks not so OCC sick :)

[tacodab]

Yeah I think it finally died down. Yunny chickened out and never did it, that weeney.

Do me a favor and go proof read the T case twin stick prep write up that I just put in the FAQ section and let me know if you find anything. It's a big file because of all the pics, so give it a while to load.
the T case twin stick mod looks good. fn the dick and all the extra commentary...LOL :)
I am glad all i had to do is the unplug the blue thing 2 low mod cuz I got the push button 4wd.
http://www.wattora.com/mods/twolow/

[hytenor]

I guess in the end. It all works. Hell what should we care….. Your truck works. my truck works. You can wheel and I can wheel. WTF does it matter how it works.....just wheel :)

damn I am an idiot. the only thing I need to focus on now is getting my foot better.
btw I am building a new/old bumper....yes with a f'ed up foot. I wheel my ass around the garage on a cart. kind of like Eddie Murphy in Trading Places when he was on the 4 wheel cart pushing himself around. Yes that is me :)
http://www.impawards.com/1983/trading_places.html

http://www.norcalttora.com/~dean/bumper/

and yes I stoll some ideas from ya the dick :) thanks man
damn, nice fabbin' ;)

[PappaF2]

yea dean that bumper looks sweet! Any reason you ditched the ARB?

[tacodab]

damn, nice fabbin' ;)
its black bri's old bumper but I am adding and filling and cutting and moving stuff to my pleasure :) plasma cutters rock :):) thanks again for the tip on what one to get.

[tacodab]

yea dean that bumper looks sweet! Any reason you ditched the ARB?
the ARB was getting in the way. In AZ it pushed into a rock and pushed into my fender and bent the hell out of it. in one of the pics you can see the sheet metal pushed in on the passenger side. http://www.norcalttora.com/~dean/bumper/slides/IMG_7263.html
the ARB is designed with the air bags in mind and that I liked..... but the brackets that hold the bumper to the truck have way to much movement, causing the damage to the fender. now that I am taking the bigger lines and pushing my bumper into things I want something that can take more abuse.
the biggest reason is I wanted something to weld, cut, fab and stuff on the truck :):)

[Dick Foster]

You're welcome I guess but I wasn't aware that you stole anything. What I do know I am more than willing to share so what ever it was it wasn't stolen.

Nice work on the bumper. Did you start out with a Bentup and go from there or did you start from scratch? Next time, just put some stickers over those extra holes. It's a lot easier. I have some extra stickers if you have run out. I got maybe 4 of those big Marlin round stickers that should cover almost anything. LOL

[Dick Foster]

Thanks, I always try to add a note of levity or two so it's not so dry, ya know.

It doesn't take too much time to do really but it took me a couple of extra hours for this one because I had to go back and take stuff apart that I had already assembled because I forgotten to take a pic. You know how you just sorta get carried away thinking about other stuff when you're putting stuff together. It's like that with ADD. 8-)

BTW what does fn mean?

[Dick Foster]

Never mind, I figured it out. LOL

[tacodab]

You're welcome I guess but I wasn't aware that you stole anything. What I do know I am more than willing to share so what ever it was it wasn't stolen.

Nice work on the bumper. Did you start out with a Bentup and go from there or did you start from scratch? Next time, just put some stickers over those extra holes. It's a lot easier. I have some extra stickers if you have run out. I got maybe 4 of those big Marlin round stickers that should cover almost anything. LOL
I started with black bri's old bent up bumper then started mod'ing it. I really liked the look of it and was going to make one from scratch. then bri sold me his. so it worked out great :)
I liked your cleaves mounts so I added those (yes I cut holes and they are attached directly to the frame mount...BEEFY :) ), filled in the holes...yea a sticker is easy but the metal is badass, then cut in for my led blinkers. last night I installed the mounts for my fog lights. tonight I integrate the radiator skid with the bumper and mount the power steering fluid cooler. then I (yea right, "I" meaning enlist the help of a couple able bodied people :) ) will need to take off the bumper, weld in some more supports for the winch, grind, paint and DONE! then it will sit again waiting for me to get out and wheeeeeeeeeel :)

[Dick Foster]

I can take it out and test it for ya if you want. Anything for a friend. LOL

[tacodab]

Thanks, I always try to add a note of levity or two so it's not so dry, ya know.

It doesn't take too much time to do really but it took me a couple of extra hours for this one because I had to go back and take stuff apart that I had already assembled because I forgotten to take a pic. You know how you just sorta get carried away thinking about other stuff when you're putting stuff together. It's like that with ADD. 8-)

BTW what does fn mean?
sweet...I like the "the dick"isms.
especially cuz I can picture you chuckling while you write them or actually saying them while doing the project...in short I like it :)

"fn" is short for fuck'n or fucking or
it should or could be be "f""n" or f'n or f-n

[Dick Foster]

I might actually do that with the pill though. LOL
You got any viagra so that I can take it down to the store and get the right shade of blue. How about asking your dad for one if you don't have any.

[tacodab]

thats just not right....my dad...I hope...crap I dont want to think about that...out of all the people to think about that kind of stuff...LOL

my brother works a pfizer and he went to work one day and they had a big ass pile of those stress squeeze things. well they were Viagra shaped and about the size of your fist....it is the funniest thing ever to see a Viagra pill that big... LOL
http://www.stress-shapes.com/big/Life/EXS1072.jpg
http://www.stress-shapes.com/stress-shapes-site/index_2.htm

http://www.1stop-pharmacy.com/images/products/viagra_pill.jpg
http://www.viagra-online-guide.net/images/solo_viagra_pill.gif

[Dick Foster]

:rofl: I figured I'd get a rise out of you on that one. Sometimes, you make it too easy, Dean. I bet your dad would get a chuckle.

[tacodab]

:rofl: I figured I'd get a rise out of you on that one. Sometimes, you make it too easy, Dean. I bet your dad would get a chuckle.
LOL
you got me on that one :)

parents doing it is not a good visual..LOL

[PappaF2]

Todd

You have any detailed pics of your 3 link or the design concept behind it?

Well the concept behind it was to do a 3 link plus panhard rod to avoid a suspension that binds by design. I wanted to mount the upper link on the passenger side to counteract the torque placed on the front suspesion by the rotation of the driveshaft. I also wanted to make the upper link as long as I could but it had to fit in the existing space. I also wanted to make the mounting point sleeved through the frame on one side. I am shooting to have not too much anti dive as I want the suspension to suck down some when climbing.
Will it work??? :confused: Beats the fawk outa me! :xcrazy:

I looked at doing it similar to how you did your 3 link, mounting the upper on the crossmember but I wasn't sure it would fit due to the placement of the single cat, as oppsed the the double cat on the newer trucks.

Here are some pics of what I came up with for the link placement:
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acs.sized.jpg

I found just enough room between the frame and downpipe for my upper link.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/act.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acu.sized.jpg
I was very unsure about how to build my upper link mount, some flat plate would have worked had I offset the holes but I decided to build something a little different. It makes me think of something midevil, like a castle tower or a weapon of some sort. I hope it holds. Let me know what you guys think.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acw.sized.jpg
This is basically what the coil will look like when mounted and sitting at ride height.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acv.sized.jpg
Well its getting closer but it is still taking much longer than I expected. Oh well. :)

P.S. the link mounts on the frame are not yet done, everything will be mounted in double sheer when done. ;)

[tacodab]

Well the concept behind it was to do a 3 link plus panhard rod to avoid a suspension that binds by design. I wanted to mount the upper link on the passenger side to counteract the torque placed on the front suspesion by the rotation of the driveshaft. I also wanted to make the upper link as long as I could but it had to fit in the existing space. I also wanted to make the mounting point sleeved through the frame on one side. I am shooting to have not too much anti dive as I want the suspension to suck down some when climbing.
Will it work??? :confused: Beats the fawk outa me! :xcrazy:

I looked at doing it similar to how you did your 3 link, mounting the upper on the crossmember but I wasn't sure it would fit due to the placement of the single cat, as oppsed the the double cat on the newer trucks.

Here are some pics of what I came up with for the link placement:
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acs.sized.jpg

I found just enough room between the frame and downpipe for my upper link.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/act.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acu.sized.jpg
I was very unsure about how to build my upper link mount, some flat plate would have worked had I offset the holes but I decided to build something a little different. It makes me think of something midevil, like a castle tower or a weapon of some sort. I hope it holds. Let me know what you guys think.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acw.sized.jpg
This is basically what the coil will look like when mounted and sitting at ride height.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acv.sized.jpg
Well its getting closer but it is still taking much longer than I expected. Oh well. :)

P.S. the link mounts on the frame are not yet done, everything will be mounted in double sheer when done. ;)
your 3rd link placement looks similar to Jason's. I should work....but like you said "beats the fawk out of me"..LOL

"I am shooting to have not too much anti dive as I want the suspension to suck down some when climbing"....mine does exactly that...what little driving I did with it before the foot thing proved that is should behave just like that. you just don't want too much so you actually lift tires :)

It always takes longer than planned :). Looks great so far.

[Brain]

Well the concept behind it was to do a 3 link plus panhard rod to avoid a suspension that binds by design. I wanted to mount the upper link on the passenger side to counteract the torque placed on the front suspesion by the rotation of the driveshaft. I also wanted to make the upper link as long as I could but it had to fit in the existing space. I also wanted to make the mounting point sleeved through the frame on one side. I am shooting to have not too much anti dive as I want the suspension to suck down some when climbing.
Will it work??? :confused: Beats the fawk outa me! :xcrazy:

I looked at doing it similar to how you did your 3 link, mounting the upper on the crossmember but I wasn't sure it would fit due to the placement of the single cat, as oppsed the the double cat on the newer trucks.

Here are some pics of what I came up with for the link placement:
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acs.sized.jpg

I found just enough room between the frame and downpipe for my upper link.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/act.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acu.sized.jpg
I was very unsure about how to build my upper link mount, some flat plate would have worked had I offset the holes but I decided to build something a little different. It makes me think of something midevil, like a castle tower or a weapon of some sort. I hope it holds. Let me know what you guys think.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acw.sized.jpg
This is basically what the coil will look like when mounted and sitting at ride height.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acv.sized.jpg
Well its getting closer but it is still taking much longer than I expected. Oh well. :)

P.S. the link mounts on the frame are not yet done, everything will be mounted in double sheer when done. ;)

Hey Todd, in that last pic, is your panhard as close to your axle as it looks? Also, are you going to double shear the upper link mount at the frame?

[PappaF2]

your 3rd link placement looks similar to Jason's. I should work....but like you said "beats the fawk out of me"..LOL

"I am shooting to have not too much anti dive as I want the suspension to suck down some when climbing"....mine does exactly that...what little driving I did with it before the foot thing proved that is should behave just like that. you just don't want too much so you actually lift tires :)

It always takes longer than planned :). Looks great so far.

Cool beans, I can't wait to see your on the trail. :D
Thanks Dean. :)

[PappaF2]

Hey Todd, in that last pic, is your panhard as close to your axle as it looks? Also, are you going to double shear the upper link mount at the frame?
Well its not as close as it looks but it is close. At max compression on the driver side it is limited by the panhard touching the diff cover. I may end up notchin the diff cover some to allow for some space between the two but I am not sure if it will be necessary.
Ya the upper link mount at the frame will be in double sheer as well as the lower link mounts at the frame. I decided to do those last after I made sure everything functioned properly in single sheer. The inner mount for the upper link will be on my tranny crossmember.

[PappaF2]

here are some pics of how my upper link mount on the frame ended up.
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/acy.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/ada.sized.jpg

[Crash]

Looking good Todd!!

[PappaF2]

Looking good Todd!!
thanks dan, I am inchin to get out and wheel the sucka! :D

[Crash]

thanks dan, I am inchin to get out and wheel the sucka! :D

I bet, I have been wanting to get some stuff done on mine also. Stupid maintanace stuff. I also need to get a front bumper built so I can put on that warn 9.5xp that I have sitting in the garage. :D I just can't figure out what style of bumper I want or it would be done already. :confused:

[PappaF2]

I also need to get a front bumper built so I can put on that warn 9.5xp that I have sitting in the garage. :D I just can't figure out what style of bumper I want or it would be done already. :confused:
thats the hardest part sometimes is just figuring out how you want it, it's frustrating as you can't move forward until thats decided.

[tacodab]

I bet, I have been wanting to get some stuff done on mine also. Stupid maintanace stuff. I also need to get a front bumper built so I can put on that warn 9.5xp that I have sitting in the garage. :D I just can't figure out what style of bumper I want or it would be done already. :confused:
just order one :)

http://www.bentup.com
or
http://www.demello-offroad.com/
or
http://www.nutsack.com/

any of then can help you with your bumper situation.
come on dan :)

[tacodab]

Todd
did you test drive it yet?

[Crash]

just order one :)

http://www.bentup.com
or
http://www.demello-offroad.com/
or
http://www.nutsack.com/

any of then can help you with your bumper situation.
come on dan :)

That's great Dean, But how are they going to make something I want that will fit my SAS'ed truck without my truck being there.

[tacodab]

That's great Dean, But how are they going to make something I want that will fit my SAS'ed truck without my truck being there.
Dan
Ok, you are correct.
Many apologies.
Fabrication on the truck is key.

[Crash]

Dan
Ok, you are correct.
Many apologies.
Fabrication on the truck is key.

If I lived close enough to have them do it then that would be a different story. I just need to get something in my head and run with it. Then I need to have someone do it.

[hytenor]

just order one :)

http://www.bentup.com
or
http://www.demello-offroad.com/
or
http://www.nutsack.com/

any of then can help you with your bumper situation.
come on dan :)
know anyone who has a slightly used ARB? :p

[tacodab]

If I lived close enough to have them do it then that would be a different story. I just need to get something in my head and run with it. Then I need to have someone do it.
10-4 to that, it is not an easy task. that is why I did what I did with mine.
dan you should hone your welding skills.
chicks dig guys with skills....
just look at every picture of every truck and imagine yourself cutting and welding and getting all sweaty and stinky and dirty and then you are done :)

no one in your area can help you with one?

I will have to show up a week early next az rocks and get your butt moving on a bumper design and help you fab it :):)

[tacodab]

know anyone who has a slightly used ARB? :p
GOSH!
my old bumper is going on my parents truck :) I am slowly building up their truck and they don't even know it yet :) LOL

[Dick Foster]

They have a Tacoma and you don't have your dad wheeling yet? What's a matter you eh?

[tacodab]

If I lived close enough to have them do it then that would be a different story. I just need to get something in my head and run with it. Then I need to have someone do it.
damn we are killing Todd's thread

you should start a...."what kind of bumper thread"
LOL that would be a first :)

[tacodab]

They have a Tacoma and you don't have your dad wheeling yet? What's a matter you eh?
well actually they do a little.
they got one of the guide books for the area around them and down 395
they have explored some of the easier trails. after the bumper I want to get them to lift the truck about 1.5 inches (coilovers and shackles) and get some 31's. it is a slow process with them. my dad is the frugal one. my mom thinks she likes it but does not want to get all tipsy so I don't ever see any BIG plans for them in that area. my dad does like to wheel with me though.

[Dick Foster]

Just keep chipping away. He'll get hooked eventually.

[PappaF2]

Todd
did you test drive it yet?
not yet, still got work to do. Hopefully today it will drive outa the garage, we'll see. Gotta do a bunch of finish welding, make tabs so the lowers are in double sheer, mount the shocks, and then just some some small stuff like bleeding the brakes and whatnot. So close, yet so far away! :lmao:

[Crash]

10-4 to that, it is not an easy task. that is why I did what I did with mine.
dan you should hone your welding skills.
chicks dig guys with skills....
just look at every picture of every truck and imagine yourself cutting and welding and getting all sweaty and stinky and dirty and then you are done :)

no one in your area can help you with one?

I will have to show up a week early next az rocks and get your butt moving on a bumper design and help you fab it :):)

Dude I want to get a lot of stuff. I just don't have the $! :(

[Dick Foster]

"chicks dig guys with skills...."

:rolleyes: Is that so? Then what seems to be your problem, no skills or what? :rofl:


You're starting to slip and leave yourself wide open, Dean.:D

[tacodab]

the dick
I have no skills so no chicks for me :( and I am always wide open :)

[Crash]

Dude, You tell me to open my own thread and then you keep posting in this one. Gawd you're an idiot! Give me some advice! :flipoff3:

[hytenor]

Give me some advice!

Ok, ...don't listen to anyone from Cali... ;)

[hytenor]

the dick
I have no skills so no chicks for me :( and I am always wide open :)

Hmm, that line would get some interesting looks where I work.

[Crash]

Ok, ...don't listen to anyone from Cali... ;)

Best advice on this board to date!!!

[Crash]

Hmm, that line would get some interesting looks where I work.

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lmao:

[PappaF2]

well, I got most everything done today, the only fabrication left is to mount the shocks, I spent a couple hours staring blankly at my truck today trying to come up with some way to mount them. I think I may have figured out what I am going to do, we'll see tomorrow.
Any way I finished welding almost everything and the lowers are now mounted in double sheer at the frame. Here are some pics of todays progress.

This is the finished up panahard rod bracket:
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adc.sized.jpg

Here are the lowers in the completed frame brackets:
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/ade.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adf.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adg.sized.jpg

[tacodab]

Dude, You tell me to open my own thread and then you keep posting in this one. Gawd you're an idiot! Give me some advice! :flipoff3:
I told you I cant take my own advice and the dick is being the dick and so on sooooo its on :)

[PappaF2]

IT FINALLY DRIVES!!!
After all sorts of silly complications my rig has left the garage and taken to the street!
Here are some pics of the shock mounts and *BLING*! :D
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adh.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adi.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adj.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adl.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adn.sized.jpg

I still need to do something about the camber, not quite sure how to do it on the d44, but I have heard you need some elipsis (sp?) ball joint inserts to do it. I also need to make a burly tie rod and wash the truck and paint whatever else needs painting.
I set the caster at somewhere around 2* or 3*, and I set the toe garage style, that will be fixed soon.
All and all it drives pretty good, I have only driven it about 15 miles on the freeway but it rode great, I will post a more detailed analysis soon. :D I can't believe it finally drives though. :)

[tacodab]

TODD
that looks OCC SICK....congrats.
how you like speed bumps now :)

[Brain]

Oooooh nice and pretty new paint and things. Why is your camber like that? New ball joints?

[tacodab]

Oooooh nice and pretty new paint and things. Why is your camber like that? New ball joints?
bri!
what are you doing this weekend?

[DrVic@BallisticFab]

looks real nice, lets see some useage pics!

[PappaF2]

TODD
that looks OCC SICK....congrats.
how you like speed bumps now :)
thanks dean, I haven't driven it too much yet but so far them speed bumps is smooth! :D

[PappaF2]

Oooooh nice and pretty new paint and things. Why is your camber like that? New ball joints?
Ya I should have painted my shiat long ago, it looks so much nicer! :o Anyway I dunno why my camber is like that? The ball joints are the same ones I put in when I first did my SAS, I know my camber was like this though with my leaves though as well, at least over the last while, as it has been wearing my tires funny. I had hopped that the change in caster would help but it hasent seemed too. :( Any Ideas how to fix it??? :confused:

[PappaF2]

looks real nice, lets see some useage pics!
thanks, there should be some usage pics after this weekend. :D

[tacodab]

haven't seen the thread (link?) but AJ emailed me about his casing. If that will work I can just order a ARB stuffed 3rd it and the rest of the 'guts' of the thing and be ready to go as far as front axle goes. I will definitely go with ARB since everything is already plummed for the front.
you will get good $'s for your IFS stuff. what gears do you have in it? 4.88's ? if so I might have a buyer?

[Brain]

bri!
what are you doing this weekend?

Work :mad: :D Soon my days at Slaveway will be over and I can enjoy weekends just like everyone else. They offered me money to quit because they don't want to pay me as much as I make (new contract says checkers now top out at 16 instead of 19). I can work up until Dec. of this year and keep making what I make but after that, I'm taking my large lump sum and running :D

[Dick Foster]

That looks great Todd. I'm happy for you. Man those shocks are sure blingy looking.

[tacodab]

Work :mad: :D Soon my days at Slaveway will be over and I can enjoy weekends just like everyone else. They offered me money to quit because they don't want to pay me as much as I make (new contract says checkers now top out at 16 instead of 19). I can work up until Dec. of this year and keep making what I make but after that, I'm taking my large lump sum and running :D
sweet, and that sucks 2. damn them for being them!!!!

[PappaF2]

That looks great Todd. I'm happy for you. Man those shocks are sure blingy looking.
thanks Dick. :) Ya those 7100's are way bling :eek: but I got a good deal on them so I was happy. :) I took it out and flexed it last night (just a little bit) but it seemed to work pretty well, it balanced with the rear nicely.

[Dick Foster]

Sounds good Todd. If you want, I have some gold paint you could use to tone down those shocks a tad. LOL

[tacodab]

Sounds good Todd. If you want, I have some gold paint you could use to tone down those shocks a tad. LOL
stop with the gold paint.
I am going to bring black paint and paint all the anti-color..LOL

[PappaF2]

Sounds good Todd. If you want, I have some gold paint you could use to tone down those shocks a tad. LOL
AWSOME!!!! :D :D :D

[Dick Foster]

:bitchslap Dipshit!!! :xsmash: In subtractive color theory black is all colors and white is the absense of color. In additive color theory, i.e. adding light, it's the other way around. :banghead:

[tacodab]

:bitchslap Dipshit!!! :xsmash: In subtractive color theory black is all colors and white is the absense of color. In additive color theory, i.e. adding light, it's the other way around. :banghead:
No you are the dumbass. Black is and white and crap.
Paint....black is all colors
Light.....black is the absence of color

White reflects all the colors and black absorbs the colors. GOSH!!!!!!!!
Its not theory..... Its fact!!!!!! Idiot stupid dumb mother.......LOL
I am making myself laugh..... :)
Nothing like flying off the handle

[hytenor]

you will get good $'s for your IFS stuff. what gears do you have in it? 4.88's ? if so I might have a buyer?

4.88s, ARB, manual hubs ;)

[tacodab]

4.88s, ARB, manual hubs ;)
sweeet
a friend of mine was asking about an arb up front for his junk. he has 4.88's all around now. when it gets closer to your cut date I am sure he will be interested in purchasing it from you.
what do you think? e-mail me!!!! deanbaum2 "at" sbcglobal "dot" net

[hytenor]

sweeet
a friend of mine was asking about an arb up front for his junk. he has 4.88's all around now. when it gets closer to your cut date I am sure he will be interested in purchasing it from you.
what do you think? e-mail me!!!! deanbaum2 "at" sbcglobal "dot" net

If/when will be in the off season next year...hopefully ;)

[tacodab]

If/when will be in the off season next year...hopefully ;)
You are da man :)
He just started a new job as a mr. policeman :) so he will not get much wheeling time in until he is done with his probation period. That will be perfect timing.
Thanks Chris

[Deserttaco]

AWSOME!!!! :D :D :D


Hey Todd, Any updates??? how's it wheel... How does it drive on the road? gimmie details...

Steve

[PappaF2]

Hey Todd, Any updates??? how's it wheel... How does it drive on the road? gimmie details...

Steve
Updates:
Well after driving it around for a while I must say it drives great, much nicer than the leaf springs. I can go mush faster through turns now without feeling like I am going to flip. I can also drive faster on hte freeway without being scared. :D I can now turn my wheels at a dead stop on the street without the whole truck shifting and lifting like it did with the leaf springs. :) My tires are rubbing the lower links at about full lock so thats kind of a bummer, but thats ok. Off road it seems to be nice and stable and flexes well, I will be giving it a better test once we go to the rubicon next week. It also seems to be smoother on the trail. Over all I am very happy with it so far. :) :D

[Deserttaco]

Updates:
Well after driving it around for a while I must say it drives great, much nicer than the leaf springs. I can go mush faster through turns now without feeling like I am going to flip. I can also drive faster on hte freeway without being scared. :D I can now turn my wheels at a dead stop on the street without the whole truck shifting and lifting like it did with the leaf springs. :) My tires are rubbing the lower links at about full lock so thats kind of a bummer, but thats ok. Off road it seems to be nice and stable and flexes well, I will be giving it a better test once we go to the rubicon next week. It also seems to be smoother on the trail. Over all I am very happy with it so far. :) :D


Are you going to be in the Bay Area any time soon??? I'd really like to check it out and crawl underneath it... Amber's biggest complaint is the ride and handling and braking... If i can get the truck to ride nice, handle nice, maybe i can sell the 4Runner and use the taco as a family hauler...

Steve

[PappaF2]

Ya I am living in the Bay Area again now. So I will be around if you want to check it out. :)

[Brain]

Are you in Danville now? PM me your address, I wanna come check it out :D

[YUNADERIS]

great job Todd...absolutley awesome

let us know how it wheels

[Pettus71]

Sounds great, keep us posted on how it goes.

[dstrbdone]

IT FINALLY DRIVES!!!
After all sorts of silly complications my rig has left the garage and taken to the street!
Here are some pics of the shock mounts and *BLING*! :D
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adh.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adi.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adj.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adl.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adn.sized.jpg

I still need to do something about the camber, not quite sure how to do it on the d44, but I have heard you need some elipsis (sp?) ball joint inserts to do it. I also need to make a burly tie rod and wash the truck and paint whatever else needs painting.
I set the caster at somewhere around 2* or 3*, and I set the toe garage style, that will be fixed soon.
All and all it drives pretty good, I have only driven it about 15 miles on the freeway but it rode great, I will post a more detailed analysis soon. :D I can't believe it finally drives though. :)

I know it may be a little late now but PartsMike.com has a great writeup on properly setting balljoints. He also has the spindle shims to fix the caster. Great job on the 3-link.

Trent

[PappaF2]

thanks, I'll check that out. I just put some new ball joints in and the camber is still messed up. I'll try some spindle shims I think. :D

[PappaF2]

I have an update of sorts. I bent my pitman arm pretty good last time I went wheeling, enough so that the steering wheel was 180* off of normal. I guess being wedged in a crack with a blow bead in front while using the draglink as a bumpstop wasnt such a great idea. :o :( Any way I am in a bit of a pickle because I was using a diahatsu rocky pitman arm which I doubt I will ever find one again, so the only way to get the panhard perfectly back into line with the draglink is to fabricate one. As of now I am using my stock ifs pitman arm to get around, and while it doesn;t match the angle of the panhard it seems to work well enough for now.

http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adx.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adt.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adu.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adv.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adr.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/ads.sized.jpg

[tacodab]

ouch!
damn Todd! you are definitely not a web wheeler :):)
hope you get it fixed.

[Brain]

Nice carnage dude! Were you tryin' to get through Tank Trap? Looks pretty gnarly :)

You still coming to the Rubicon work weekend thing??

[hytenor]

I have an update of sorts. I bent my pitman arm pretty good last time I went wheeling, enough so that the steering wheel was 180* off of normal. I guess being wedged in a crack with a blow bead in front while using the draglink as a bumpstop wasnt such a great idea. :o :( Any way I am in a bit of a pickle because I was using a diahatsu rocky pitman arm which I doubt I will ever find one again, so the only way to get the panhard perfectly back into line with the draglink is to fabricate one. As of now I am using my stock ifs pitman arm to get around, and while it doesn;t match the angle of the panhard it seems to work well enough for now.



holy crap batman! what were you thinking trying to run that crack? LOL
uh, nevermind, you're Todd :p

couldn't a good machine shop get that thing back into shape?

what about midnight auto supply? :p

[PappaF2]

holy crap batman! what were you thinking trying to run that crack? LOL
uh, nevermind, you're Todd :p

couldn't a good machine shop get that thing back into shape?

what about midnight auto supply? :p
thats the crack by 5 fingers! :eek: It's way gnarlier than it used to be. I was doing just fine until I blew a bead then forward progress was halted. :o
I dunno about the machine shop, maybe or I will cut the spline section from this one and use it to make a new one. Or I could get a sky 3/4" drop arm and it would be close, just not dead on it also costs a bit $$$.
hmmm midknight auto... ;)

[Dick Foster]

OUCH!!! Dude you done busted it already? Hardcore!!!

From the pics, it looks like you were tryin to follow a buggy.

If that is dirt n mud I'm seein packed into that rim, I gotta tell ya that is the most mud/dirt packed rim I done eva saw with these here eye balls. LOL

[Deserttaco]

Time for beadlocks...

[PappaF2]

OUCH!!! Dude you done busted it already? Hardcore!!!

From the pics, it looks like you were tryin to follow a buggy.

If that is dirt n mud I'm seein packed into that rim, I gotta tell ya that is the most mud/dirt packed rim I done eva saw with these here eye balls. LOL

ya that was my buddy ian in his buggy I was following. It all looked so simple when he drove it. :D
Yup thats all mud and dirt packed tight into the rim. Actually there were also several fist sized rocks that had gotten packed in there too. :eek:
When the tire guy took the tire off the rim to clean the dirt out we found a busted high pressure line hose clam in my tire! :lmao:

[PO2SIMS]

Can we some more pics of the setup (front end flex)?

[Paul]

Can we some more pics of the setup (front end flex)?
Here's a short video.
http://tacomaterritory.com/~ccorley/Misc%20vids/Rubicon%20'05/Todd 2-1.wmv

[PappaF2]

flex shots, some poser some not :D
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/ado.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adp.sized.jpg
http://www.norcalttora.com/albums/album53/adq.sized.jpg
http://www.4wdtrailphotos.com/moab2005web/Pete's%20Poison%20Spyder%20Golden%20Spike%20Gold%2 0Bar%20Rim%20Pics/DSCF1750.JPG
snagged from peterparks


I have a few more I can post but I gotta upload them.