: H2h


JeepGuy
11-17-2008, 06:30 AM
Despite the whopping one person that initially showed up yesterday.... :flipoff1: , I had a great day in FJ! Jeremy showed up in his newly transformed taco and no one else showed so we decided to hit lower & upper Woodpecker and join up with another group just behind us. We ran UW without any issues...except my near flop coming down from the firehole :eek: We got to the entrance to H2H and hung out for a few and all of a sudden Carlos shows up just in time in his (now) truggy. So myself, Jeremy, and Carlos decide to break from the group and do H2H. Carlos walked the gatekeeper obstacle like it was nothing and I had a bit of trouble on it. I just wasn't hooking up on my sidewalls and couldn't get through. I tried backing out to realign and.....
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http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Highway_To_Hell_files/Media/PB150060/PB150060.jpg

Cage works! A little pull of the strap and I was back on all fours...that was cool :cool: I decided it just wasn't going to happen today on that obstacle so I took the bypass. At the double waterfall section my lockers weren't working, but it was just a fuse, so I replaced that we were back on our way. We got through without many issues. The weather was perfect, good company, and had a nice non-epic day :D

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Highway_To_Hell_files/Media/PB150056/PB150056.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Highway_To_Hell_files/Media/PB150058/PB150058.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Highway_To_Hell_files/Media/PB150061/PB150061.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Highway_To_Hell_files/Media/PB150064/PB150064.jpg

JeepGuy
11-17-2008, 06:48 AM
Pics from Lower & Upper Woodpecker:

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Lower_and_Upper_Woodpecker_files/Media/PB140258/PB140258.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Lower_and_Upper_Woodpecker_files/Media/PB140259/PB140259.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Lower_and_Upper_Woodpecker_files/Media/PB140263/PB140263.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Lower_and_Upper_Woodpecker_files/Media/PB150049/PB150049.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Lower_and_Upper_Woodpecker_files/Media/PB150052/PB150052.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Lower_and_Upper_Woodpecker_files/Media/PB150053/PB150053.jpg

http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Lower_and_Upper_Woodpecker_files/Media/PB150054/PB150054.jpg

Heatstroke
11-17-2008, 07:59 AM
H2H is fun. Good thing the gatekeeper notch is all filled in, it used to be a pretty big drop. Super fun trail if built enough to run it.

BOVADS
11-17-2008, 08:15 AM
http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Lower_and_Upper_Woodpecker_files/Media/PB150053/PB150053.jpg



any more pics of this rig?

JeepGuy
11-17-2008, 08:51 AM
any more pics of this rig?

No recent ones. It's pretty built. He just put in a D60 in the front and it looses more sheet metal every time I see it :D

howyadoin
11-17-2008, 09:11 AM
Carlos walked the gatekeeper obstacle like it was nothing and I had a bit of trouble on it. I just wasn't hooking up on my sidewalls and couldn't get through.

Ummmmm...you run Maxxis!:D

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 09:47 AM
Ummmmm...you run Maxxis!:D

Funny............ my sidewall-less maxxis had no problem the last 2 times........ musta been his spotters fault! :D

howyadoin
11-17-2008, 10:36 AM
Funny............ my sidewall-less maxxis had no problem the last 2 times........ musta been his spotters fault! :D

Yea, I've heard they work great on drywall!:D

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 10:39 AM
Yea, I've heard they work great on drywall!:D

You have to air 'em down pretty far (like 24psi) for drywall though! :D

howyadoin
11-17-2008, 11:02 AM
You have to air 'em down pretty far (like 24psi) for drywall though! :D

:rofl:

JeepGuy
11-17-2008, 11:12 AM
Ummmmm...you run Maxxis!:D

I know, I know...I don't have stickies...or 18 buggies :flipoff3: They hooked up last time I did it. It just wasn't my day on that obstacle.

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 11:14 AM
My spotter sucked and I forgot the line Eric put me on last time, so I fell in


Fixed it for you! :D

ToyBoxAuto
11-17-2008, 01:17 PM
Funny............ my sidewall-less maxxis had no problem the last 2 times........ musta been his spotters fault! :D

haha funny coming from a guy who does not wheel, guess thats why your such a good spotter:flipoff1:

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 01:35 PM
haha funny coming from a guy that doesn't need a spotter when he wheels.

Fixed it for you! :flipoff4:

ToyBoxAuto
11-17-2008, 02:08 PM
Fixed it for you! :flipoff4:

lol, i will believe that when i see you wheelin:D

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 02:17 PM
lol, i will believe that when i see you wheelin:D

Donate some parts and you'll see like a fatgirl at a buy one get on free buffet! :flipoff4:

ToyBoxAuto
11-17-2008, 02:30 PM
Donate some parts and you'll see like a fatgirl at a buy one get on free buffet! :flipoff4:

haha as long as you dont stop wheelin as soon as you get some body damage:D or just get smart now and ditch the body:saw:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/toyboxautopics/4Runner/100_3051.jpg

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 03:02 PM
haha as long as you dont stop wheelin as soon as you get some body damage:D or just get smart now and ditch the body:saw:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/toyboxautopics/4Runner/100_3051.jpg

Not gonna happen.......... I'm done with wheeling once or twice and being down for 6-8 months........ I need to get more enjoyment out of it this time around........... at least until the economy comes around again and I can afford to replace broken junk every week again! :D

ToyBoxAuto
11-17-2008, 03:21 PM
Hey I wheel every weekend:)

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 03:25 PM
Hey I wheel every weekend:)

Good for you, money bags! :flipoff4:

Spinnas
11-17-2008, 05:04 PM
http://www.deathvalleyrockcrawlers.com/new_site/DVRC/Photo_Album/Pages/Highway_To_Hell_files/Media/PB150056/PB150056.jpg



That's the line right there. Just put your driver tire in that spot and stay STRAIGHT. When the driver front tire climbs, go about 4 more feet and they slightly turn passenger and ride the passenger front tire along the top of notch the whole way. 60% of the time it works....everytime:D

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 05:09 PM
...60% of the time it works....everytime:D
:lmao: I like those odds! :D

howyadoin
11-17-2008, 05:47 PM
Or turn hard driver...just watch for the speed bump on the way out.

howyadoin
11-17-2008, 05:50 PM
Not gonna happen.......... I'm done with wheeling once or twice and being down for 6-8 months........ I need to get more enjoyment out of it this time around........... at least until the economy comes around again and I can afford to replace broken junk every week again! :D

Sooo...we'll see you on Raw Deal/Elvis?:eek:

Heatstroke
11-17-2008, 06:45 PM
haha as long as you dont stop wheelin as soon as you get some body damage:D or just get smart now and ditch the body:saw:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/toyboxautopics/4Runner/100_3051.jpg

Hmmm, automatic climate control. That'll be great when it's in the 110's or in the 40's. I'm wanting to adopt the Howyadoin plan but the downsized version of only 2 vehicles. The Tahcomma for the comfort enjoyed fun runs, and another for the anti sheet metal get some fun runs. Mixing the two rarely seems to work.

AZrockbum
11-17-2008, 06:52 PM
Sweet, you finally popped your flopping cherry :D

Spinnas
11-17-2008, 06:56 PM
Hmmm, automatic climate control. That'll be great when it's in the 110's or in the 40's. I'm wanting to adopt the Howyadoin plan but the downsized version of only 2 vehicles. The Tahcomma for the comfort enjoyed fun runs, and another for the anti sheet metal get some fun runs. Mixing the two rarely seems to work.

Now you got it figured out Mike!

FAUX X 4
11-17-2008, 08:13 PM
Sooo...we'll see you on Raw Deal/Elvis?:eek:

Maybe................ if I decide to run the hard stuff!!! :D

007max
11-17-2008, 08:17 PM
lol, i will believe that when i see you wheelin:D

I've seen him out on the trail.. once.. I swear ;)

Kaistie
11-17-2008, 08:57 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Schneider591
11-17-2008, 09:13 PM
I had a great time. h2h was fun and i only managed to get a tiny scrape on my pretty sheet metal. I did manage to do some damage in my front end somewhere along the trail. jeep guy and I tried to find the issue in the fj parking lot and after a few hours still couldnt find the problem. other than that it was a great day.
I really got to thank jeep guy (sean I think was his name) for sticking around and helping me look for the issue.

JeepGuy
11-17-2008, 09:25 PM
That's the line right there. Just put your driver tire in that spot and stay STRAIGHT. When the driver front tire climbs, go about 4 more feet and they slightly turn passenger and ride the passenger front tire along the top of notch the whole way. 60% of the time it works....everytime:D

That's pretty much what I did, but I think I went 4.5 more feet and that's when I "fell down and couldn't get up" :o This was that other 40%. Next time that bitch is mine! :whip:

Spinnas
11-17-2008, 09:53 PM
So easy, even Toyotas can do it!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Ridinspinnas/Cinco%20de%20Spinnas%202/DSCF0486.jpg

Even this line works

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Ridinspinnas/13.jpg

MerMan
11-17-2008, 10:01 PM
So easy, even Toyotas can do it!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Ridinspinnas/Cinco%20de%20Spinnas%202/DSCF0486.jpg

Even this line works

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Ridinspinnas/13.jpg
So easy, even Toyotas can do it!
Too bad you cant say that about some JEEPS on Twisted,huh:neener:


http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/41425/2154533780100891660S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2154533780100891660ykBQvM)
http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/43424/2673229890100891660S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2673229890100891660jkIYSa)

Spinnas
11-17-2008, 10:12 PM
Too bad you cant say that about some JEEPS on Twisted,huh:neener:



"That's the coolest thing I've ever seen a Toyota do!"

MerMan
11-17-2008, 10:20 PM
"That's the coolest thing I've ever seen a Toyota do!"

:p ..that was awesome!

Kaistie
11-17-2008, 10:29 PM
I really want to try to fit my bus through there, but i don't have a tow rig and a trailer yet...because that would be the end result!

JeepGuy
11-17-2008, 10:35 PM
Even this line works

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Ridinspinnas/13.jpg

OK Mr. Full Width axles :rolleyes: :flipoff1:

When were those pics taken? That's a lot more filled in then it was this weekend.

MerMan
11-17-2008, 10:48 PM
I really want to try to fit my bus through there, but i don't have a tow rig and a trailer yet...because that would be the end result!

I dont know if I wanna be there to witness that :explode:

Kaistie
11-18-2008, 12:48 AM
Dude, you would have to be there, you have been at almost all my breakage. We can't break tradition. I will call in a heavy lift chopper and we will get after it!!

Spinnas
11-18-2008, 05:51 AM
OK Mr. Full Width axles :rolleyes: :flipoff1:

When were those pics taken? That's a lot more filled in then it was this weekend.

True on both accounts, however, I didn't fall in AND my passenger side tires were a full foot to the passenger side more than they needed to be. I got bored waiting for the Tacama low guys and just started driving, no need for spotting.

RadRyan(Fabwerx)
11-18-2008, 06:34 AM
Carlos, you figure out the shift rail problem? We were trying to catch you guys and didnt make it. UW kicked are ass. Cowboykuck broke 2 front shafts and i broke a rear. tire just feel off. Damn toy semi float. We ended up camping in the middle of the trail about 200yd from entrance to h2h. still fun!

CowboyKuck
11-18-2008, 07:21 AM
great weekend for the most other than the fact that i am now out of spare shafts :D had that not happened i would have liked to gone on H2H with ya'll. Looks like you guys had a good weekend as well. Nice flop Sean :clap:

JeepGuy
11-18-2008, 07:43 AM
I had a great time. h2h was fun and i only managed to get a tiny scrape on my pretty sheet metal. I did manage to do some damage in my front end somewhere along the trail. jeep guy and I tried to find the issue in the fj parking lot and after a few hours still couldnt find the problem. other than that it was a great day.
I really got to thank jeep guy (sean I think was his name) for sticking around and helping me look for the issue.

So did you get back OK afterwords? Did you tear it down yet to see what was causing the vibration?

Carlos, you figure out the shift rail problem? We were trying to catch you guys and didnt make it. UW kicked are ass. Cowboykuck broke 2 front shafts and i broke a rear. tire just feel off. Damn toy semi float. We ended up camping in the middle of the trail about 200yd from entrance to h2h. still fun!

Sounds like a rough day :eek: I was looking for you guys on the way in but didn't see you. Glad to hear it was "still fun" though ;)

ToyBoxAuto
11-18-2008, 08:09 AM
Carlos, you figure out the shift rail problem? We were trying to catch you guys and didnt make it. UW kicked are ass. Cowboykuck broke 2 front shafts and i broke a rear. tire just feel off. Damn toy semi float. We ended up camping in the middle of the trail about 200yd from entrance to h2h. still fun!

Not really, I just got it to go into 4lo and just left it there till the end of h2h. Sucks you guys broke in UW, but at least you had fun:D Were did he break his front shafts at and were did you break yours?

Schneider591
11-18-2008, 10:43 AM
ya the vib was horrible at 20mph-40mph it was better around 50 so I cruised back at 50 so it took less time than I thought. I havent gotten a chance to tear it apart but I will report back when I find the issue.
thanks for your help

007max
11-18-2008, 05:12 PM
Carlos, you figure out the shift rail problem? We were trying to catch you guys and didnt make it. UW kicked are ass. Cowboykuck broke 2 front shafts and i broke a rear. tire just feel off. Damn toy semi float. We ended up camping in the middle of the trail about 200yd from entrance to h2h. still fun!

WTF? I ran that back when my truck was stock height and the only managed to beat the fuck out of my stock skids. Are we talking about the same trail? lol

RadRyan(Fabwerx)
11-18-2008, 07:15 PM
I wasn't even on an obstacle. just creeping:driving: along and BAM! My rear end was on the ground. Time to do full floaters.:welder: Broke about 200yds from h2h entrance.

ninja
11-18-2008, 08:22 PM
i broke a sidegear in the rear this weekend. All these busted rears, :mad:

MerMan
11-18-2008, 08:32 PM
Miller should be responding to this in 3,2,..

FAUX X 4
11-18-2008, 08:52 PM
Miller should be responding to this in 3,2,..

14 BOLT!!!!

Spinnas
11-18-2008, 09:23 PM
Fucking Toyota shit:D

Mark in Az
11-18-2008, 10:20 PM
14 BOLT!!!!

Didn't Carlos break one of those? :)

Spinnas
11-18-2008, 10:32 PM
You can get CTMs for 14 bolts.

howyadoin
11-18-2008, 10:48 PM
14 BOLT!!!!

20 minutes! Fawk you're getting slow.:D

ToyBoxAuto
11-19-2008, 08:44 AM
Didn't Carlos break one of those? :)

Yeah I broke one at the top of BM:D

FAUX X 4
11-19-2008, 08:53 AM
Didn't Carlos break one of those? :)

Yes............ but in all fairness, his runner was pinned HARD and weighed in around the weight of a dump truck at the time. :D

FAUX X 4
11-19-2008, 08:54 AM
20 minutes! Fawk you're getting slow.:D

I had to pee! :D

Mark in Az
11-19-2008, 09:08 AM
Yes............ but in all fairness, his runner was pinned HARD and weighed in around the weight of a dump truck at the time. :D

Maybe someday soon the response won't be 14 Bolt, it'll be Rockwell:D

FAUX X 4
11-19-2008, 09:11 AM
Maybe someday soon the response won't be 14 Bolt, it'll be Rockwell:D

Not likely in this economy! :D

ToyBoxAuto
11-19-2008, 09:28 AM
Maybe someday soon the response won't be 14 Bolt, it'll be Rockwell:D

If it turns into rockwells we will all start mud bogging and running 54" michelins:)

MerMan
11-19-2008, 09:34 AM
Yes............ but in all fairness, his runner was pinned HARD and weighed in around the weight of a dump truck at the time. :D
excuses,excuses...How long did it take me to break a stock shaft with how many wheeling trips?14 bolt may be stronger and way heavier BUT,you Toyota owners need to remember,we are not running Atlas or any of the bling transfercases to welcome all that stress.Keep it light and simple and Toyota junk will work for ya.

FAUX X 4
11-19-2008, 09:38 AM
...Keep it light and simple and Toyota junk will work for ya.

see......... that's where I went wrong! :D

BOVADS
11-19-2008, 11:07 AM
wonder if the new tundra rear axels will become the new 14BOLT ?

Symon623
11-19-2008, 11:45 AM
wonder if the new tundra rear axels will become the new 14BOLT ?

in 10 years maybe, GM will be gone and by that time ther might be enough tundy rears out that they might be cheap, plus we'll know if there are any issues with them?

howyadoin
11-19-2008, 12:54 PM
wonder if the new tundra rear axels will become the new 14BOLT ?

What are the specs and we can probably figure it out! That crazy bolt pattern won't help them btw.

FAUX X 4
11-19-2008, 01:01 PM
What are the specs and we can probably figure it out! That crazy bolt pattern won't help them btw.

It will be a while before the aftermarket catches up and that will only happen if they are in service for a number of years with good results. Really the only thing it has going for it that is and upgrade beyond previous Toy axles is the larger ring and pinion........... does it still use crush collars or is it supported like a 14 bolt or a 9 inch?.......... i'd say, if it's not, that a bigger ring and pinion won't add much to the durability unless somebody gets Zuk to start making solid collars and setting them up. :2cents:

RadRyan(Fabwerx)
11-19-2008, 02:19 PM
i broke a sidegear in the rear this weekend. All these busted rears, :mad:
do you have any extra side gears? or anyone else for that matter?Needn one to send to moser.

TBob
11-20-2008, 09:41 AM
I thought zuk sets em up with a solid collar...or at least that's what I remember him telling me, could be wrong.

It will be a while before the aftermarket catches up and that will only happen if they are in service for a number of years with good results. Really the only thing it has going for it that is and upgrade beyond previous Toy axles is the larger ring and pinion........... does it still use crush collars or is it supported like a 14 bolt or a 9 inch?.......... i'd say, if it's not, that a bigger ring and pinion won't add much to the durability unless somebody gets Zuk to start making solid collars and setting them up. :2cents:

TBob
11-20-2008, 09:43 AM
Only toyota guy to complete the marithon!! - nice job Uriel

excuses,excuses...How long did it take me to break a stock shaft with how many wheeling trips?14 bolt may be stronger and way heavier BUT,you Toyota owners need to remember,we are not running Atlas or any of the bling transfercases to welcome all that stress.Keep it light and simple and Toyota junk will work for ya.

FAUX X 4
11-20-2008, 09:48 AM
I thought zuk sets em up with a solid collar...or at least that's what I remember him telling me, could be wrong.

Thats what I said......... read it again........ slower.:D

MerMan
11-20-2008, 02:32 PM
Only toyota guy to complete the marithon!! - nice job Uriel

Thanks T-Bob!

Spinnas
11-20-2008, 05:09 PM
Thanks T-Bob!

Translation: Only Toyota guy that GETS SOME!