: Stinger?


TacoDell
06-24-2005, 10:24 AM
For those who have 'em... (anyone else can keep quiet!!) I operated Scrapers (57's) for years and know what a stinger is used for in that regards... But on these fixed custom tube bumpers with the extra high stinger... what is the purpose? They look odd to me... Maybe if I could lower it down and hook up to my buddy on the trail I could save gas? :rolleyes: LOL We could push/pull through anything... Maybe a train of 5 or 6 goin' thru the Sluice Box? :eek: LOL.... Really though... please enlighten me.... I put this in the noobie forum so you wouldn't :xcrybaby: so loudly over this retarded question... SKMB... Cheers...

Yes I read the search threads... to prevent a frontal roll over? WTF... That never worked that way on my 57....

Tweeter
06-24-2005, 10:58 AM
Yes, it's to prevent a front roll over, or help "vault" up onto rocks or other obstacles. I wouldn't flame you if this wasn't in the newbie section, because not a lot of people ask this over and over again ;)

TacoDell
06-24-2005, 11:06 AM
Yes, it's to prevent a front roll over, or help "vault" up onto rocks or other obstacles. I wouldn't flame you if this wasn't in the newbie section, because not a lot of people ask this over and over again ;)

So that weak looking loop could support the weight of the whole truck? OK.... I'm a retard.... flame away!!! LOL... Some body got some pics of this in action? I'm getting ready to have a bumper made and want to be sure I don't need to add this bling!! LOL Cheers... :xbeer2:

tbplus10
06-24-2005, 12:59 PM
So that weak looking loop could support the weight of the whole truck? OK.... I'm a retard.... flame away!!! LOL... Some body got some pics of this in action? I'm getting ready to have a bumper made and want to be sure I don't need to add this bling!! LOL Cheers... :xbeer2:

A correctly built bumper with a stinger isnt as weak as you seem to think, the side bars support the center, which is usually boxed, and there are at least 4 attachment points to the frame, the whole bumper is usually made from 2" .120 wall tube, the same material that a good pair of sliders is made from, and those appear to support a trucks weight very well.
If it's just "bling" to you then dont add it, no rule say's every bumper has to have a stinger on it.

Tim

Tweeter
06-24-2005, 01:10 PM
I agree if you're not crushing rocks in the Rubicon every other weekend don't bother. But if you are rockcrawling at steep angles you might consider some "weak metal" that could save your front end or even roof of your car. I have a custom bumper with 10 bolts holding it in all grade 8 because if I face plant I'd rather be safe than sorry. Plus it's detachable :D

mr.trd
07-29-2005, 11:26 PM
They also come in very handy when crossing large cracks. They stick out and catch the other side of the crack so you don't fall as far in or to make the crack passable at all.

TacoDell
07-30-2005, 12:13 AM
They also come in very handy when crossing large cracks. They stick out and catch the other side of the crack so you don't fall as far in or to make the crack passable at all.

Well I better get one then... as my girl has a big crack I keep falling in... :eek: I tied a rope to a tree and around my ankle but the suction from that crack was too much and it just sucked me in... Maybe it's just my poor crack crossing skills.... fawk....

Captkirkyota
07-31-2005, 09:52 AM
For those who have 'em... (anyone else can keep quiet!!) I operated Scrapers (57's) for years and know what a stinger is used for in that regards... But on these fixed custom tube bumpers with the extra high stinger... what is the purpose? They look odd to me... Maybe if I could lower it down and hook up to my buddy on the trail I could save gas? :rolleyes: LOL We could push/pull through anything... Maybe a train of 5 or 6 goin' thru the Sluice Box? :eek: LOL.... Really though... please enlighten me.... I put this in the noobie forum so you wouldn't :xcrybaby: so loudly over this retarded question... SKMB... Cheers...

Yes I read the search threads... to prevent a frontal roll over? WTF... That never worked that way on my 57....
They are great if you are climbing a very steep ledge and someone can attach a strap to it to help pull down your front end, also in a roll it can keep you from damaging your radiator, so that you have more of a chance of driving your truck home rather than not because your radiator got jacked. added lazy man bonus, after winching up a ledge and using a tow strap around a boulder or tree to anchor to and you know you are gonna need to winch a little farther down the trail again, you can leave winch line attached to strap and then loop strap around stinger, for ease of access later on down the trail, thus the lazy man use:D

booger weldz
07-31-2005, 10:04 AM
saves the radiator in a rollover

booger weldz
07-31-2005, 10:05 AM
it sticks above the hood 8-12'' or so...

mr.trd
07-31-2005, 10:28 AM
Well I better get one then... as my girl has a big crack I keep falling in... :eek: I tied a rope to a tree and around my ankle but the suction from that crack was too much and it just sucked me in... Maybe it's just my poor crack crossing skills.... fawk....

Just strap a 2x4 across your ass and that should prevent you from falling into any womans crack. If not, then that crack is deffinately wore out!!!!

Captkirkyota
07-31-2005, 10:41 AM
saves the radiator in a rollover
Hey booger, is that steel tube or pipe for your exo?
AND have you ever needed to remove your bumper?
Most around here say to go bolt on, but I say phooey, how often do you REALLY NEED to remove your front bumper????? IF it ever becomes absolutely necessary, one could cut a few welds and then re-weld it. I am of the belief the a welded on front bumper is stronger than bolted for all the reasons one would need a strong bumper. your thoughts?

mr.trd
07-31-2005, 10:58 AM
I know that this question isn't for me, but here are my thoughts. Welded is much stronger than bolted. The only reason for a bolted on bumper is if you have any plans of pulling out the motor or you are still IFS. If you are still IFS and plan to do a SAS then bolted on is good so that you can remove the bumper do your brackets, hangers, and frame plating, then modify the bumper mounting to fit on with all of that stuff, then weld it on!!!! Although Steve at CBI has only done two from bumpers on SAS'ed tacomas, they are both welded on!!!

Captkirkyota
07-31-2005, 11:01 AM
I know that this question isn't for me, but here are my thoughts. Welded is much stronger than bolted. The only reason for a bolted on bumper is if you have any plans of pulling out the motor or you are still IFS. If you are still IFS and plan to do a SAS then bolted on is good so that you can remove the bumper do your brackets, hangers, and frame plating, then modify the bumper mounting to fit on with all of that stuff, then weld it on!!!! Although Steve at CBI has only done two from bumpers on SAS'ed tacomas, they are both welded on!!!
Agreed. :)

mr.trd
07-31-2005, 01:22 PM
So are you going to be able to make it to Moab over Labor Day or has the Dusy trail broke the bank??? Just wondering to get a feel for how many people will be there..Would love to have you there man!!!!

Captkirkyota
07-31-2005, 01:31 PM
So are you going to be able to make it to Moab over Labor Day or has the Dusy trail broke the bank??? Just wondering to get a feel for how many people will be there..Would love to have you there man!!!!
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booger weldz
08-01-2005, 06:52 PM
Hey booger, is that steel tube or pipe for your exo?
AND have you ever needed to remove your bumper?
Most around here say to go bolt on, but I say phooey, how often do you REALLY NEED to remove your front bumper????? IF it ever becomes absolutely necessary, one could cut a few welds and then re-weld it. I am of the belief the a welded on front bumper is stronger than bolted for all the reasons one would need a strong bumper. your thoughts?

weld on for sure, not ehough places to get enough bolts in enough places to ever make it worthy. my junk is made outta schedule 40 pipe(not the junk from ace hardware). i gave up on HREW and DOM tubing a few destroyed vehicles ago. ive never had to remove the bumper, but it is a pain in the arse to check the oil, adjust valves, etc without standing on a milkcrate or crawling up into the 'stinger' area.

Captkirkyota
08-01-2005, 07:04 PM
weld on for sure, not ehough places to get enough bolts in enough places to ever make it worthy. my junk is made outta schedule 40 pipe(not the junk from ace hardware). i gave up on HREW and DOM tubing a few destroyed vehicles ago. ive never had to remove the bumper, but it is a pain in the arse to check the oil, adjust valves, etc without standing on a milkcrate or crawling up into the 'stinger' area.
Cool, that's what I thought. Mine is REALLY tight up against the body in order to remove the winch I'll have to remove the grille which is those snap thingy's. My stinger is definitely not as far out and high as yours, I basically put it just high enough to see a little over the hood and to protect my radiator. Thanks again.

Tweeter
08-02-2005, 10:39 AM
I know that this question isn't for me, but here are my thoughts. Welded is much stronger than bolted. The only reason for a bolted on bumper is if you have any plans of pulling out the motor or you are still IFS. If you are still IFS and plan to do a SAS then bolted on is good so that you can remove the bumper do your brackets, hangers, and frame plating, then modify the bumper mounting to fit on with all of that stuff, then weld it on!!!! Although Steve at CBI has only done two from bumpers on SAS'ed tacomas, they are both welded on!!!

I know I said 10 bolts, my bad I must've been sniffing too much glue that day...there are only 4 bolts in the front since it comes through the OEM bumper, in case I ever need to take it off and get to the radiator.

Dick Foster
08-02-2005, 11:05 AM
:banghead: Tsk, tsk, tsk. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/traurig/sad-smiley-066.gif
I just don't know what I'm going to do with with you, Kirk. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/traurig/sad-smiley-068.gif

Captkirkyota
08-02-2005, 03:28 PM
:banghead: Tsk, tsk, tsk. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/traurig/sad-smiley-066.gif
I just don't know what I'm going to do with with you, Kirk. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/traurig/sad-smiley-068.gif
Huh? :confused: Why The Dick........ whatever do you mean???

Dick Foster
08-02-2005, 03:54 PM
Don't stand there and play dumb with me mister!! You know exactly what I mean.

That sounds kinda like how your dad talked to you, huh? Probably immediately preceding a whoppin for some dumb stunt that you'd pulled and figured that you'd get away with. LOL

Captkirkyota
08-02-2005, 04:18 PM
Don't stand there and play dumb with me mister!! You know exactly what I mean.

That sounds kinda like how your dad talked to you, huh? Probably immediately preceding a whoppin for some dumb stunt that you'd pulled and figured that you'd get away with. LOL
HUH???????? Now I'm really confused, and I really don't know what you meant. Please explain.

Dick Foster
08-02-2005, 04:21 PM
You know I'm agin welding stuff that you are going to beat up to the frame, things like sliders and bumpers. It was a JK.
You startin to slip on me, Kirk? You usually pick up on stuff like that.

Captkirkyota
08-02-2005, 04:39 PM
You know I'm agin welding stuff that you are going to beat up to the frame, things like sliders and bumpers. It was a JK.
You startin to slip on me, Kirk? You usually pick up on stuff like that.
Oh, yeah I should've huh? I'm running on empty the past week and feelin puny today, so i guess I'm not as sharp as one should be to keep up with The Dick!
Oh and , bolt on sliders and bumpers suck! Weld on's rule! :p :rofl: :xmoon: :bitchslap
( I now run for cover as I've prolly unleashed the wrath of The Dick. )

Dick Foster
08-02-2005, 05:09 PM
It quite alright with me if you want to build a ghetto rig. As long as I had the change to warn ya :2cents: . You go right on ahead with your mule headed ways. It'll just give me all that more ammo to work with down the road when you go and bash em up on th rocks. That is when you ain't got it all buried up to the frame rails. :rolleyes: http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-018.gif

:eek: Ya thought that was all over didn't ya.http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/lachen/laughing-smiley-016.gif Three times in one day for the trail lead, indeed. :rofl:

Captkirkyota
08-02-2005, 05:25 PM
It quite alright with me if you want to build a ghetto rig. As long as I had the change to warn ya :2cents: . You go right on ahead with your mule headed ways. It'll just give me all that more ammo to work with down the road when you go and bash em up on th rocks. That is when you ain't got it all buried up to the frame rails. :rolleyes: http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-018.gif

:eek: Ya thought that was all over didn't ya.http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/lachen/laughing-smiley-016.gif Three times in one day for the trail lead, indeed. :rofl:
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Dick Foster
08-02-2005, 05:34 PM
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booger weldz
08-02-2005, 06:35 PM
c/mon dick. if hes gonna build a rig at least let him build it right(bolt on hard parts??). it obviously wasnt intended to be all show no go with those axles :D

Mike
08-02-2005, 06:42 PM
c/mon dick. if hes gonna build a rig at least let him build it right(bolt on hard parts??). it obviously wasnt intended to be all show no go with those axles :D

Tell Dick that welding rock sliders to the frame is the best way. Then duck, LOL!

Later,
....Mike

Dick Foster
08-02-2005, 06:46 PM
You are in one of your shit distrubing moods, aren't you? You may as well have told him to bring up the subject of taxes too.

Mike
08-02-2005, 06:48 PM
You are in one of your shit distrubing moods, aren't you? You may as well have told him to bring up the subject of taxes too.

My rock sliders are welded, and I pay less taxes than you, so there. :D

Later,
....Mike

Captkirkyota
08-02-2005, 06:54 PM
>>distrubing<<
Hey, did Grumpy highjack The Dick's computer?????

Dick Foster
08-02-2005, 06:54 PM
:cool: You, I have learned to either tolerate or ignore. :p

Dick Foster
08-02-2005, 06:55 PM
No it was, Jason.