: The Cutting Has Begun


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hytenor
03-04-2009, 07:36 PM
Tic, Tock, Tic, Tock............ times running out Wyatt! :D

did you see him at KOH?? I didn't...:rolleyes:

awsumdc
03-04-2009, 09:12 PM
Tic, Tock, Tic, Tock............ times running out Wyatt! :D

I know.... I Know!!!!:o

awsumdc
03-04-2009, 09:13 PM
did you see him at KOH?? I didn't...:rolleyes:

No.... I wasn't there. Busy at work and Jason's wife's birthday on Saturday.

hytenor
03-04-2009, 09:25 PM
No.... I wasn't there. Busy at work and Jason's wife's birthday on Saturday.

yea, yea, yea....:p

FAUX X 4
03-09-2009, 01:16 PM
I know.... I Know!!!!:o

So, I guess that means you'll be here, since you just used your last excuse on KOH? :p

hytenor
03-09-2009, 01:50 PM
So, I guess that means you'll be here, since you just used your last excuse on KOH? :p

what? and actually wheel the thing?? :rolleyes:

FAUX X 4
03-09-2009, 02:05 PM
what? and actually wheel the thing?? :rolleyes:

What makes you think we'll be wheeling at AzRocks? :camping::xbeer2::xbeer1::xzzz::xbeer2::xbeer1: :camping: :xzzz:

hytenor
03-09-2009, 09:12 PM
What makes you think we'll be wheeling at AzRocks? :camping::xbeer2::xbeer1::xzzz::xbeer2::xbeer1: :camping: :xzzz:

O...yea...:rolleyes:

FAUX X 4
03-10-2009, 10:48 AM
O...yea...:rolleyes:

I'm sure we'll sneak some wheeling in there somewhere! :p

hytenor
03-10-2009, 12:11 PM
I'm sure we'll sneak some wheeling in there somewhere! :p

ah, so we steal the truck :D

FAUX X 4
03-10-2009, 12:21 PM
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awsumdc
03-10-2009, 03:04 PM
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is it done yet? :D


Huh?!?!? wha? What? Oh I'm here, I was just taking a nap.

FAUX X 4
03-10-2009, 03:06 PM
Huh?!?!? wha? What? Oh I'm here, I was just taking a nap.

No time to nap!!!......... AzRocks is in 3 weeks!!! :eek: :D

awsumdc
03-10-2009, 04:51 PM
No time to nap!!!......... AzRocks is in 3 weeks!!! :eek: :D

I may be able to get my truck there. I found a way to get my speedo back without going to the rear axle. Sol showed me from his Fj. I was crawling under my trcuk and noticed that I had a plug where the speed sensor on your Tacoma would be so I took it out and saw the worm gear in there. We had Dans 02 Taco there and so we took his sensor out and put it in my transfer case. Fit like a glove...... Now I'm trying to track down a sensor from a 2001 to 2004 Taco with the plug and wires attatched and I'll be good to go. Found the schematic for my truck and know where I need to tie into. I should be good to go in a week if nothing eles goes wrong.:o

FAUX X 4
03-10-2009, 04:54 PM
I may be able to get my truck there. I found a way to get my speedo back without going to the rear axle. Sol showed me from his Fj. I was crawling under my trcuk and noticed that I had a plug where the speed sensor on your Tacoma would be so I took it out and saw the worm gear in there. We had Dans 02 Taco there and so we took his sensor out and put it in my transfer case. Fit like a glove...... Now I'm trying to track down a sensor from a 2001 to 2004 Taco with the plug and wires attatched and I'll be good to go. Found the schematic for my truck and know where I need to tie into. I should be good to go in a week if nothing eles goes wrong.:o

Awesome Wyatt.......... that's been a big hassle ever since the swap, I hope it works out for you! (I know it sucks to be the guinea pig sometimes)

So I hope this means not only that you'll be here, but the rig will too? :D

drabnor
03-10-2009, 05:03 PM
good luck wyatt, it took me over a year to find that sensor used, new its about 150 bucks and that would be with no plug or wireing just the sensor...

frazier2209
03-10-2009, 06:02 PM
Wyatt does is have to be out of an 01-04??

I just pulled mine off my 98 and have it laying here. You're welcome to it if you want it.

awsumdc
03-10-2009, 10:40 PM
Wyatt does is have to be out of an 01-04??

I just pulled mine off my 98 and have it laying here. You're welcome to it if you want it.

Hey Cody. Thank you very much. If yours is a three wire sensor, then yes I could use it and would be extremely grateful. If it is the two wire system that I think it is then I can't but am still grateful for your generosty.

I would also need the plug and about 6" of the wiring loom from it.

If you can take a picture of it and post it up that would be great and may save some maling charges since we are not exactly around the corner from each other.:o

P.S. I've been following your build thread and I'm very impressed with what you have done to your rig lately. Very nice job.

awsumdc
03-10-2009, 10:43 PM
Awesome Wyatt.......... that's been a big hassle ever since the swap, I hope it works out for you! (I know it sucks to be the guinea pig sometimes)

So I hope this means not only that you'll be here, but the rig will too? :D

It's looking better all the time for both of us to be there. Lets keep our fngers crossed. :D

awsumdc
03-10-2009, 10:46 PM
good luck wyatt, it took me over a year to find that sensor used, new its about 150 bucks and that would be with no plug or wireing just the sensor...

Yeah, I know. Te dealer wants like $220 for this thing from the FJ cruiser or the 05 manual tranny Taco. But there has to be one somewhere. Cody may be my knight in shinning armor.;)

Hilux_MAX
03-10-2009, 11:08 PM
Cant you just wire in an adjustable speed ratio box into the three wire speed sensor?

That is what I have done to my current hilux and I had it on my previous generation hilux aswell.

it allows adjustment of the signal for two different sets of tyres in all sizes.

heres a link to where I got it from here in oz -

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/tyre_match_box/speedo-correction.html

cost me bout 160bux aussie, I traced the wire from the speed sensor to behind the dashboard cluster and wired it in there. and put the unit behind the dash behind the centre console near me feet, so if I need to adjust it I just reach in and do it. it has a toggle switch to switch quickly from tyre A to tyre B.

abit easier that trying to source the gear drive for the sensor.

just my 2cents worth.

awsumdc
03-10-2009, 11:19 PM
Cant you just wire in an adjustable speed ratio box into the three wire speed sensor?

That is what I have done to my current hilux and I had it on my previous generation hilux aswell.

it allows adjustment of the signal for two different sets of tyres in all sizes.

heres a link to where I got it from here in oz -

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/tyre_match_box/speedo-correction.html

cost me bout 160bux aussie, I traced the wire from the speed sensor to behind the dashboard cluster and wired it in there. and put the unit behind the dash behind the centre console near me feet, so if I need to adjust it I just reach in and do it. it has a toggle switch to switch quickly from tyre A to tyre B.

abit easier that trying to source the gear drive for the sensor.

just my 2cents worth.


Yes and no. Yes, once I get the speed sensor from an early model Taco that has the three wire sytem, I can do that and will so that my speedo works corectly.

No. Right now the new Tacos with the auto trans picks up the speed from the rear wheel abs sensors that have a two wire system, takes that info to the skid control ecu and converts that info into info that can be read by the speedo. It then sends it to the speedo and in turn tells me just how fast I am going.

What I am going to do is bypass the skid control ecu with a VSS from an early model Taco that has the three wires and go straight to the wire coming from the abs unit that runs to the speedo. At that point I will use a Dakota Digital unit to get the speed perfect.

awsumdc
03-10-2009, 11:20 PM
Wyatt does is have to be out of an 01-04??

I just pulled mine off my 98 and have it laying here. You're welcome to it if you want it.

Cody, it looks like yours will work for mine. I checked the wiring schematic and yours does have the three wire system. Cool.:D

frazier2209
03-11-2009, 12:06 AM
Cody, it looks like yours will work for mine. I checked the wiring schematic and yours does have the three wire system. Cool.:D

Is this what you need??

I still have the stock case, so I can pull anything off of it you would need too.
Just let me know.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/frazier2209/0311090104.jpg

hytenor
03-11-2009, 01:40 AM
I may be able to get my truck there. I found a way to get my speedo back without going to the rear axle. Sol showed me from his Fj. I was crawling under my trcuk and noticed that I had a plug where the speed sensor on your Tacoma would be so I took it out and saw the worm gear in there. We had Dans 02 Taco there and so we took his sensor out and put it in my transfer case. Fit like a glove...... Now I'm trying to track down a sensor from a 2001 to 2004 Taco with the plug and wires attatched and I'll be good to go. Found the schematic for my truck and know where I need to tie into. I should be good to go in a week if nothing eles goes wrong.:o

wait a minute...didn't several of us suggest that way back when you started??:rolleyes::confused:

awsumdc
03-11-2009, 07:17 AM
Is this what you need??

I still have the stock case, so I can pull anything off of it you would need too.
Just let me know.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/frazier2209/0311090104.jpg

Yes Cody, That is exactly what I need along with the sensor that that pigtail plugs into. It is held on to your transfer case by one 12mm bolt at the end of your tcase.

That would be great if I could get that from you. Just tell me what you want for it. Thanks again for your time.

awsumdc
03-11-2009, 07:25 AM
wait a minute...didn't several of us suggest that way back when you started??:rolleyes::confused:


Yes, you are right. When Marlin looked into this he was looking at a late '05 transfer case that didn't have the plug in it. It also did not have a worm gear in it at all. We figured mine was the same. We thoguht that someone took the plug off of mine and looked in and saw that there wasn't a worm gear in there. No one did though. don't know why we thoguht that. Thats why they say never assume.:o

Then Dan and I decided just for kicks and giggles to take th plug off and see for ourselves. We found what we were looking for.:o Then we took his sensor off of his tcase and put it in mine and it fit.

Thats where we are today.

Once I get the parts I'll post up pics and the process I learned from Sol and the rest of you guys on what it takes for these '05 Taco's.

FAUX X 4
03-11-2009, 10:46 AM
It's looking better all the time for both of us to be there. Lets keep our fngers crossed. :D

Whoo-hoo! That's good news! Good luck with the speed sensor, I'm sure you'll be happy once that's all taken care of finally! :cool:

frazier2209
03-11-2009, 05:21 PM
Wyatt,
Sent you a PM

awsumdc
03-11-2009, 07:34 PM
Ok. On the early '05 Taco's, i can't speak for any of them later than March of '05, that have the auto transmissions, they have this plug in place of the speed sensor. On mine when I took it out this weekend, I found that there is a worm gear in there so I can pick up speed from there. Here is a picture of what it looks like at the back of the transfercase.
Up close
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01162.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/18966/cat/500)

Showing where it is on the transfercase.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01163.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/18967/cat/500)


This is a VSS from the early gen Taco. I got it from a friend but the wires have been stripped out. Cody has one out of his Taco with the pigtail that will probably work better for me. He's my hero:p
Anyway.......
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01160.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/18965/cat/500)

These have different gears on them with different teeth count. This one has 32 teeth on it as seen by the number 32 on the gear. I don't remember what Marlin said the 11 was for. Some kind of formula to figure what gear would work with which tire's your using.
Here s a picture of the gear that is on this one.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01161.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/18963/cat/500)

Anyway, I'll show exactly how to do this from what I learned from Sol and Mossyrocks. I want to thank them for figuring this out.

As soon as I get the other sensor from Cody I'll put up the swap. an't wait to see my speedo working again.:D

fire931
03-11-2009, 07:46 PM
glad i didnt have to go through all that trouble.. all i need is the dakota digital box to get the speed back to normal again. good luck getting it all together!

hytenor
03-11-2009, 08:35 PM
Ok. On the early '05 Taco's, i can't speak for any of them later than March of '05, that have the auto transmissions, they have this plug in place of the speed sensor. On mine when I took it out this weekend, I found that there is a worm gear in there so I can pick up speed from there. Here is a picture of what it looks like at the back of the transfercase.


This is a VSS from the early gen Taco. I got it from a friend but the wires have been stripped out. Cody has one out of his Taco with the pigtail that will probably work better for me. He's my hero:p
Anyway.......
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01160.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/18965/cat/500)

These have different gears on them with different teeth count. This one has 32 teeth on it as seen by the number 32 on the gear. I don't remember what Marlin said the 11 was for. Some kind of formula to figure what gear would work with which tire's your using.
Here s a picture of the gear that is on this one.


Anyway, I'll show exactly how to do this from what I learned from Sol and Mossyrocks. I want to thank them for figuring this out.

As soon as I get the other sensor from Cody I'll put up the swap. an't wait to see my speedo working again.:D

looks like all you need is the harness end, not another vvs. those are available from Toyota. all you need to do is to ID the end via the fsm wiring parts volume.

drive gear won't matter since you are using a Dakota.

awsumdc
03-11-2009, 09:30 PM
looks like all you need is the harness end, not another vvs. those are available from Toyota. all you need to do is to ID the end via the fsm wiring parts volume.

drive gear won't matter since you are using a Dakota.

Toyota dosen't sell the iring harness part of it. Sol already tried. He said they will sell the cap but not with the wires in it.

Unless of course you know a dealer that will sell one to me. I'm all ears now. I've learned my lesson about not listening;). Then again, Cody has one thats in good shape and we know it works.

yeah, the drive gear won't matter to me at all.

Jomentum
03-11-2009, 09:51 PM
Yeah, you can buy the connector,
the terminals are availiable in the wire harness repair kit. it is a 5 inch length wire, with the correct terminal and weatherproof end attached..

I might have some connector ends with some wire harness.
I will look in the kit and find the part #'s

sbechtold
03-11-2009, 09:56 PM
Toyota dosen't sell the iring harness part of it. Sol already tried. He said they will sell the cap but not with the wires in it.


It's not that the dealer won't sell you the wiring harness, it's that that VSS harness is tied into another harness and you'd have to buy a section of the harness, then strip out the pieces you need. It would be a big waste of money. In my build thread I posted the part numbers for the Toyota plug. I reused the wire ends from my ADD connector that I cut off. Since you use your ADD box you can't do that. Regardless, you can probably find connectors at Radio Shack that will work once you have the plug, but Cody's looks like it's in good shapre, so you should be fine.

Good luck with the wiring Wyatt. Let me know if you need anymore help.

hytenor
03-11-2009, 10:19 PM
Toyota dosen't sell the iring harness part of it. Sol already tried. He said they will sell the cap but not with the wires in it.

Unless of course you know a dealer that will sell one to me. I'm all ears now. I've learned my lesson about not listening;). Then again, Cody has one thats in good shape and we know it works.

yeah, the drive gear won't matter to me at all.


V10 connector
pt# 90980-11143

add your own wires and terminal connectors (can't find pt # for those)

awsumdc
03-11-2009, 11:41 PM
V10 connector
pt# 90980-11143

add your own wires and terminal connectors (can't find pt # for those)

Ok. So I didn't want to wait so I went to my garage and found the wire connectors from my fog lights that came stock on my truck, took them apart and put the wires into my connector that goes into the VSS. I have the schematic for the 2000 Taco that this came from so I know which wires goes where since they are numbered 1,2,3. on the connector and in the schematic. I just followed how Sol did his and did mine the same way only mine was free:D

Started taking the wires out of my fog light connectors that I was no longer using.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01165.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19000/cat/500)


Then I pulled the connector apart from the VSS so I could get the wires out.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01168.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19001/cat/500)

Here are the bad wires that I took out.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01172.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19005/cat/500)

Then I started putting the wires I took out of the fog light connectors and put them into my VSS connector.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01166.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/18999/cat/500)

Got all the wires in now and just about finished.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01167.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19003/cat/500)

Put the white plastic retainer back in and it's complete.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01170.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19004/cat/500)

Plugged it in to the VSS an it should be good to go.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC011711.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19006/cat/500)

I'll pull the connector from the VSS and get them both really clean and extend the wires to go where I need them before I put them in my truck. Remember, this is a show truck only and never sees dirt so it's got to be clean.:rolleyes: Can't have it all mucked up and stuff and ruin my reputation.:D :cool: Yeah right......

awsumdc
03-11-2009, 11:52 PM
It's not that the dealer won't sell you the wiring harness, it's that that VSS harness is tied into another harness and you'd have to buy a section of the harness, then strip out the pieces you need. It would be a big waste of money. In my build thread I posted the part numbers for the Toyota plug. I reused the wire ends from my ADD connector that I cut off. Since you use your ADD box you can't do that. Regardless, you can probably find connectors at Radio Shack that will work once you have the plug, but Cody's looks like it's in good shapre, so you should be fine.

Good luck with the wiring Wyatt. Let me know if you need anymore help.

Sol, I really want to thank you for all the help you have provided. Your threads both on Mossyrocks and your own were the ones I used to get this far and I've got the rest figured out. Thanks again, and I'll see you on the rubicon. Speedo and all:D

awsumdc
03-11-2009, 11:57 PM
Yeah, you can buy the connector,
the terminals are availiable in the wire harness repair kit. it is a 5 inch length wire, with the correct terminal and weatherproof end attached..

I might have some connector ends with some wire harness.
I will look in the kit and find the part #'s

Thank you so much for your consideration. It's really cool to see TTORA members wanting to lend a hand to a fellow member now instead of yelling at them to hit the search button.

Thank you so much.

hytenor
03-12-2009, 01:24 AM
see, that wasn't so hard :D

NorcalPR
03-12-2009, 01:26 AM
Wyatt,

I've been able to repair (and add wire to) connectors similar to what you have posted.

Just lay the wire on top of the connector and run some solder. It also helps if you get a pair of twezers and open the last leg of the connector.

Kind of hard to describe, but when youlook at the connectors, it'll be clear as mud :)

FAUX X 4
03-12-2009, 11:03 AM
thank you so much for your consideration. It's really cool to see ttora members wanting to lend a hand to a fellow member now instead of yelling at them to hit the search button.

Thank you so much.

search newb!!! :d

awsumdc
03-12-2009, 11:10 AM
search newb!!! :d

Then again.... theres always the knuckle head thats been standing in the AZ sun too long and didn't get the MEMO!!!! ;)

FAUX X 4
03-12-2009, 11:13 AM
Then again.... theres always the knuckle head thats been standing in the AZ sun too long and didn't get the MEMO!!!! ;)

Sorry, I was busy working on my TPS reports............. what memo??? :D

awsumdc
03-15-2009, 05:11 PM
OK. So I got to work this week end and started working on my speed sensor issues.

First I needed to figure out what wires I needed to connect into. Sol really helped me out on this one. Here are the diagrams from an '05 Taco abs system. The first one shows the skid control unit (abs) and the red yellow wire coming out of it. This the wire that comes out of the abs unit and into the back of the instrument cluster to the speedo. You'll see that it has A T next to it. This is for the auto trans Taco's.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01180.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19258/cat/500)

This pictures shows the red yellow wire going into the cluster for the speedo. it also shows another red yellow going into it from V1 which is the speed sensor found on manual tranny Taco's. You'll notice this just goes straight into the speedo.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC011791.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19257/cat/500)

So what we did was pull the red yellow wire from the abs unit, but first I had to find it in here:(
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01184.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19262/cat/500)

Then I pulled it out and put everything back together again.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC011861.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19260/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC011882.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19263/cat/500)

Next was to pull the cap from the back of the transfer case.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01162.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/18966/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC011971.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19266/cat/500)

Here is the worm gear that is in the transfer case. i don't know if the later modle second gen Taco's have the because they don't even have the plug.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC011961.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19268/cat/500)

A closer look.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC011951.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19265/cat/500)

Now here is where I ran into some issues. I got one sensor from a friend of mine here in SoCal and one in the mail from Cody in Tenn. Good thing I had both of them because neither worked without the other.

I knew the gear that Cody's had would probably get my speedo really close but when I tried to put it in my case it wouldn't go in. The one I got from a friend would go in but the gear was way off. i don't know why Cody's wouldn't go in. it looks exactly the same.

Anyway, I took the gear from Cody's and put it in the other housing, put it in the transfer case and pluged it up, wired up everything and nothing.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01198.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19267/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC011991.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19271/cat/500)


Then i realized that i didn't have the ground wire hooked up.:o
Silly Wyatt....
Put the truck on jack stands and what do you know. The shit works!!!!
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC012111.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19270/cat/500)

drove it around for awhile and took this picture while cruising from the beach up Magnolia to my house. At 50mph the gauge reads 49mph. Not bad at all with 39.50 tires.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC012121.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19269/cat/500)

Now I know I still have an ABS light and brake light on but I'm fine with that.

I no longer have a check engine light and my tranny mnow shifts like it's should and i know how fast I'm going.

Heatstroke
03-15-2009, 05:56 PM
Fixed it for you ! ! !

I no longer have a check engine light and my tranny now shifts like it's should and I know how fast I'm going. . . .
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Now I can go to AzRocks, YEAY ! ! !



Nice work Wyatt, now get out here for AzRocks :D.

awsumdc
03-15-2009, 06:52 PM
Fixed it for you ! ! !





Nice work Wyatt, now get out here for AzRocks :D.


thanks, but I'm not done yet.

I got so excited about fixing the speedo that I went for it and dove into getting my spiral cable fixed.

I didn't want to pay $256.00 for a new one from the dealer so I went to the junk yard and found one from a 5 lug Taco. The air bag had deployed but that was OK 'cause I just spliced my good ends onto the housing end.

here are the two spiral cablesthe. My broken one on the right with the yellow sheaths on it and the one from the junk yrad with the blown plug ends.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01202.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19283/cat/500)

Here are the blown ends that I will cut off and splice on the good ones from my truck.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC012041.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19282/cat/500)

Here are the good ones.http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01205.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19285/cat/500)

With everything spliced together and buttoned up it was time to put it all together again.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC012031.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19281/cat/500)

First was to put the spiral cable unit back on the colunm.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01206.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19284/cat/500)

Then the colunm cover goes back on.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC012072.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19286/cat/500)


Next is the steering wheel.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01208.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19288/cat/500)

Then last but not least is the steering wheel pad and air bag.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01209.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19289/cat/500)

Then I connected to battery back and look Ma! No funky air bag warning light on and the horn works too. i had forgotten the horn is a real one too. not one of the funky Carrola beeb beeb sounds.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01210.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19287/cat/500)

My work is done for the weekend.

Now to work on AZ Rocks.....:)

P.S. My cruise control works now too.

hytenor
03-15-2009, 09:17 PM
Weeeeee! :D

NorcalPR
03-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Good stuff! I like your work style, you don't just live with it, you fix it for good.

awsumdc
03-16-2009, 09:25 AM
Good stuff! I like your work style, you don't just live with it, you fix it for good.

Thank you!

The other cool thing is my cruise control works now too.

FAUX X 4
03-16-2009, 10:59 AM
Thank you!

The other cool thing is my cruise control works now too.

I need to do that one............ I miss my cruise control and my after market horns! :D

Good Job Wyatt!.............. See you in 10-11 days! :cool:

awsumdc
03-16-2009, 11:04 AM
I need to do that one............ I miss my cruise control and my after market horns! :D

Good Job Wyatt!.............. See you in 10-11 days! :cool:

thanks Eric, and working on getting there.

hytenor
03-16-2009, 12:57 PM
thanks Eric, and working on getting there.

so...what...? Do Dick and I have to make a detour and drag your ass down there? :p

awsumdc
03-16-2009, 01:02 PM
so...what...? Do Dick and I have to make a detour and drag your ass down there? :p

That may help....:D

Jacket
03-16-2009, 02:19 PM
Some really great research/findings in there. I'd say you are paving the road of the future for 2nd gen Tacoma owners, although its odd to me that the TC plug went away some time in mid-2005. Hopefully they just sealed the case and didn't change the gears inside?

Anyway - congrats. Very cool stuff.

hytenor
03-16-2009, 02:20 PM
That may help....:D

I'll speak to The Dick :p

TacoCrazy
03-16-2009, 11:36 PM
Some really great research/findings in there. I'd say you are paving the road of the future for 2nd gen Tacoma owners, although its odd to me that the TC plug went away some time in mid-2005. Hopefully they just sealed the case and didn't change the gears inside?

Anyway - congrats. Very cool stuff.

That would be 4th gen, but hey, who's counting?? :p

hytenor
03-17-2009, 01:42 AM
Some really great research/findings in there. I'd say you are paving the road of the future for 2nd gen Tacoma owners, although its odd to me that the TC plug went away some time in mid-2005. Hopefully they just sealed the case and didn't change the gears inside?

Anyway - congrats. Very cool stuff.

one way to find out is to go to your dealer's pts dept. and have them bring up a newer Taco tcase exploded view and see if that output shaft gear is still there.

Jacket
03-17-2009, 01:39 PM
That would be 4th gen, but hey, who's counting?? :p

How you figure? 1st gen = 95.5 - 2004; 2nd gen = 2005+

Jacket
03-17-2009, 01:40 PM
one way to find out is to go to your dealer's pts dept. and have them bring up a newer Taco tcase exploded view and see if that output shaft gear is still there.

Fortunately the Parts Mgr at Boulder Toyota is a personal friend - I bet he'd be able to look it up for me.

hytenor
03-17-2009, 01:41 PM
How you figure? 1st gen = 95.5 - 2004; 2nd gen = 2005+

around here, at least, Taco generations have been: 95.5-97 gen1; 98-00 gen2; 01-04 gen 3 putting the current at gen4 ;)

hytenor
03-17-2009, 01:46 PM
Fortunately the Parts Mgr at Boulder Toyota is a personal friend - I bet he'd be able to look it up for me.

since it is a separate part on the shaft it will either be there on the new ones or not...I would think not.

Jacket
03-17-2009, 01:49 PM
around here, at least, Taco generations have been: 95.5-97 gen1; 98-00 gen2; 01-04 gen 3 putting the current at gen4 ;) That's a subjective sorting at best....

Since my 2006 doesn't have the Tcase plug like Wyatt's, maybe mine could be a gen 5 ;)

hytenor
03-17-2009, 02:08 PM
That's a subjective sorting at best....

Since my 2006 doesn't have the Tcase plug like Wyatt's, maybe mine could be a gen 5 ;)

been that way since Delphi days when ttora was Toyota Tacoma off-road Assoc. ;)
It was felt there were enough differences between those 3 to call them generations

brinner
03-17-2009, 03:21 PM
hey Wyatt, whats the ID and OD of your panhard?....if you dont mind.

(and yes i do realize i just left the door wide open for like....a thousand dirty comments)

TacoCrazy
03-17-2009, 10:21 PM
around here, at least, Taco generations have been: 95.5-97 gen1; 98-00 gen2; 01-04 gen 3 putting the current at gen4 ;)

Yea, what he said ^^ :D

awsumdc
03-17-2009, 10:45 PM
hey Wyatt, whats the ID and OD of your panhard?....if you dont mind.

(and yes i do realize i just left the door wide open for like....a thousand dirty comments)

I'm not sure. I'll try to get that for you this weekend.

Remnd me though or else I'll forget.:o

FAUX X 4
03-20-2009, 03:15 PM
Are you done yet? :D

hytenor
03-21-2009, 01:34 AM
Are you done yet? :D
he better be...I ain't gonna drag him down there :p

awsumdc
03-21-2009, 09:30 AM
Truck is ready and I'm pretty much packed but it looks like I'm out this year.

My anniversary is Tuesday and we were supposed to away this weekend, however, a young Marine was killed in San Bernardino. He is the son of a very good friend and buisness associate of mine and his funeral is today, so that moved our annivesary weekend to next weekend. I'd rather get grief from you guys than get it from my wife.:o

Eric, I'm sending you the Carne. PM me your address.

Next year. But I'll be out there this summer sometime.

hytenor
03-21-2009, 02:21 PM
Truck is ready and I'm pretty much packed but it looks like I'm out this year.

My anniversary is Tuesday and we were supposed to away this weekend, however, a young Marine was killed in San Bernardino. He is the son of a very good friend and buisness associate of mine and his funeral is today, so that moved our annivesary weekend to next weekend. I'd rather get grief from you guys than get it from my wife.:o

Eric, I'm sending you the Carne. PM me your address.

Next year. But I'll be out there this summer sometime.

bring here along. you can drop her off at one of the Sedona spas :D

awsumdc
03-21-2009, 05:56 PM
bring here along. you can drop her off at one of the Sedona spas :D

That would go over really well. :rolleyes: I'd be moving to your house after that stunt.:p

I always wondered what it would be like to live up north???

hytenor
03-21-2009, 06:07 PM
That would go over really well. :rolleyes: I'd be moving to your house after that stunt.:p

I always wondered what it would be like to live up north???

Ok, so stay at the spa with her during the evenings but wheel with us during the days :D
driving time won't be much from TM to Sedona

FAUX X 4
03-23-2009, 10:58 AM
Truck is ready and I'm pretty much packed but it looks like I'm out this year.

My anniversary is Tuesday and we were supposed to away this weekend, however, a young Marine was killed in San Bernardino. He is the son of a very good friend and buisness associate of mine and his funeral is today, so that moved our annivesary weekend to next weekend. I'd rather get grief from you guys than get it from my wife.:o

Eric, I'm sending you the Carne. PM me your address.

Next year. But I'll be out there this summer sometime.

Bummer Wyatt! :(

Life happens.......... and sometimes it causes some rescheduling. My condolences to you and the family of your business associate. I know I wouldn't want to incur the wrath of my wife if I told her I was going wheeling on our anniversary, so you get a pass. :D

Keep the Carne and grill it up for the little lady! :thumbs:

Hopefully we'll see you at the Hammers soon or something. :D

brinner
03-26-2009, 10:15 AM
panhard dimensions? (yeah ive been busy too..i understand)

awsumdc
03-26-2009, 11:30 AM
panhard dimensions? (yeah ive been busy too..i understand)

I'll be working on it this weekend. I'll pm you my phone number so you can call me on Saturday and then I'll get it right to you. Sorry:o

brinner
03-26-2009, 03:21 PM
no worries

brinner
03-28-2009, 12:06 PM
left you a message on your cell.

slander
04-02-2009, 04:28 PM
Hey man awesome build!! Im looking at building a tube bed setup similar to yours, how are your bed sides attached? I remember seeing somewhere on the web how they were, but figured i would go directly to the scource!!!

awsumdc
04-03-2009, 09:28 AM
Hey man awesome build!! Im looking at building a tube bed setup similar to yours, how are your bed sides attached? I remember seeing somewhere on the web how they were, but figured i would go directly to the scource!!!

I built a frame for them that use four in tube tube clamps from camburg to remove from the truck. Then I sused some camburg screws to attach them to the fender frames.

At the bottom of the picture you can see in the 1" tube a small allen bolt holding the two parts of the clamp together.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC008902.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/14471/cat/500)

This is the back side of the fender where the scew goes though to the tab.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC008891.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/14469/cat/500)

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC00888.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/14468/cat/500)

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Off_road_shots_007.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/14463/cat/500)

Then it's just four bolts and unplug the lights and off they come. Simple!
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/tow_vehicle_007.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/13748/cat/500)

Then I can run the hard trails without worrying about tearing up the most vunerable part of our trucks..... the rear bed area.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/HammersRunExpopics119.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/13665/cat/500)

If the bed sides were on here they would be laying on the trail after this squeeze.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_3145.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/13749/cat/500)

TacoCrazy
04-03-2009, 02:04 PM
Then it's just four bolts and unplug the lights and off they come. Simple!
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/tow_vehicle_007.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/13748/cat/500)


I'm sorry....I don't see a truck in this picture..:D

slander
04-03-2009, 08:15 PM
Thanks alot man!! I love that tube bed and those removable sides! Definately will do something like this once i get around to building it! Again awesome truck!!

awsumdc
04-23-2009, 09:25 AM
When we built this truck, we were under a time frame to get it ready for the Off Road Expo, so we didn't paint it correctly. It developed sme rust an needed to be repainted.

We took everything apart in the rear area and started stripping the old paint.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN7257.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22250/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN7256.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22251/cat/500)

Then this is what it looks like now all painted. We used a flat satin type paint. I think it looks better than the semi gloss I had before.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN7260.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22253/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN7261.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22255/cat/500)

Next, we're going to take the rear springs off and redo those and clean and paint the rear axle. After that we move to the front to redo the front shock towers and clean and paint the front axle, frame, links and supports, and to create a hybrid front bumper for it and add a winch.

hytenor
04-24-2009, 01:35 AM
LOL, and you thought you were "done" :p

Munssey
04-24-2009, 07:51 AM
Now, I can be around big and not grit my teeth in anticipation of this day.

awsumdc
04-24-2009, 08:56 AM
LOL, and you thought you were "done" :p

I never fooled myself into thinking I was really done.;) It was just something I said to my wife to keep her off my back. Jeff.... are you paying attention?:D

awsumdc
04-24-2009, 08:57 AM
Now, I can be around big and not grit my teeth in anticipation of this day.

Yes.... this really needed to be done.:(

Munssey
04-24-2009, 09:28 AM
Jeff.... are you paying attention?:D

Loud and clear, sir!

awsumdc
04-25-2009, 09:02 AM
Last night I got my son to help me with the rear axle stuff. It's good to have a little helper around the house.

He likes power tools. Now I just need to fatten him up a bit so he can help me get those tires OFF the truck
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC012691.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22735/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01270.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22733/cat/500)

Not afraid to jump right in... now my wife left when he went under the truck and the only thing she said was "he better come in when you come in". She never worried about me under the truck. Whats with that?

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01272.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22734/cat/500)

Now the springs are ready to come off so I can clean them and repaint them and the rear axle too.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC012741.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22736/cat/500)

After this stuff is done, it's off to the front half of the truck. Thats gonna be more involved because I'm cutting off the shock towers and making new ones, redoing the front bumper, changing the link ends, and repainting everything. Whewwwww

HillBilly_Young01
04-25-2009, 10:36 AM
After this stuff is done, it's off to the front half of the truck. Thats gonna be more involved because I'm cutting off the shock towers and making new ones, redoing the front bumper, changing the link ends, and repainting everything. Whewwwww

ill be the one to ask this,

why are you going to do all that work?

awsumdc
04-25-2009, 04:54 PM
ill be the one to ask this,

why are you going to do all that work?

Thats cool. The truck works fine. It works really good. However, it is too high in the front so I have to lower it down a couple of inches. I'll do that by changing the front shock mounts and raising them higher into the engine bay. While I'm doing that I'm going to change my hiem joint to Ballsistic Fab joints so I can grease them. Hate that poping sound the hiems make. Also need to lengthen my lower links by 1/2".

Since I'm doing all of that I may as well paint it to stop the rust.

awsumdc
04-26-2009, 10:58 AM
Some pictures before I started putting everything back together again.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN7262.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22800/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN7264.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22799/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN7263.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/22798/cat/500)

brinner
04-26-2009, 05:02 PM
.......................While I'm doing that I'm going to change my hiem joint to Ballsistic Fab joints so I can grease them. Hate that poping sound the hiems make................



well im glad to see that i at least did THAT part right for mine :kewl:

awsumdc
04-26-2009, 08:03 PM
well im glad to see that i at least did THAT part right for mine :kewl:

Good job mate.:D The hiems are really good and strong. You just can't grease them. I use hiems for my seering and won't use anything else. They are just so much stronger than anything else.

hoist00
04-26-2009, 09:52 PM
Why not use a glossy paint instead of flat black, I would think it would make it easier to clean?

fire931
04-27-2009, 07:10 AM
i believe he said hes using satin black. which happens to be my choice of paint as well. looks really nice! almost a perfect match to most powdercoats.

brinner
04-27-2009, 07:49 AM
...................easier to clean?



did that really just appear in this forum? :)

awsumdc
04-27-2009, 09:14 AM
Why not use a glossy paint instead of flat black, I would think it would make it easier to clean?

I'm using a satin black which is a primer paint. It holds up better than a gloss paint, is less expensive, and as said before, is easier to match most powdercoats that are not gloss. I think it looks better too.

awsumdc
04-27-2009, 09:16 AM
did that really just appear in this forum? :)

:d:d

awsumdc
05-03-2009, 08:33 AM
Here is the video of me going up the gatekeeper on Doran Falls in Calico.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiGNkBG6eAg

metalarts
05-03-2009, 09:00 AM
[QUOTE=awsumdc;1624984]Here is the video of me going up the gatekeeper on Doran Falls in Calico.QUOTE]


nicely done, sweet rig btw :D

awsumdc
05-03-2009, 09:10 AM
[QUOTE=awsumdc;1624984]Here is the video of me going up the gatekeeper on Doran Falls in Calico.QUOTE]


nicely done, sweet rig btw :D

Thank you very much. I've been watching your build. Very nice.

hytenor
05-03-2009, 01:07 PM
Here is the video of me going up the gatekeeper on Doran Falls in Calico.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiGNkBG6eAg

much better than your first attempt :p
next time try the left line at the top :D Nugget did a 1-wheel stand there, LOL

awsumdc
05-07-2009, 09:43 AM
Here are a couple of others from that day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijOKLM1OAxA&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uScHxxhkS6U&feature=channel_page

hytenor
05-07-2009, 12:12 PM
dayam! @ 81" rubber-to-rubber I didn't even bother trying that skinny ledge, LOL...Nugget and I just drove up the wall :p

awsumdc
05-07-2009, 09:30 PM
dayam! @ 81" rubber-to-rubber I didn't even bother trying that skinny ledge, LOL...Nugget and I just drove up the wall :p

Going up that hill is easy. Going down is another story all together. Let me see if I can find the videos of the people who went down that wall.:eek:

P.S. I'm 84" outside rubber to outside rubber.

Here ya go! These were the guys we were running with that day. Some really cool guys but as you can tell they had no regard for the well being of their trucks. So I took the skinny route. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4eMNPv8cM&feature=channel_page

frazier2209
05-07-2009, 09:53 PM
Looks like a fun bunch to wheel with.

Wyatt you coulda done that easily. :D

awsumdc
05-07-2009, 10:09 PM
Looks like a fun bunch to wheel with.

Wyatt you coulda done that easily. :D

I probably could have but I didn't have my extra driveshaft with me.:D

How's your build up going? I saw you changed some things from the last time I looked. By the way, the speed sensor is doing fine in it's new home.;)

frazier2209
05-07-2009, 10:48 PM
yep. I haven't really ridden in the last 2 weeks. Got the new tires out once.

In the meantime I've been fixing a lot of piddly leaks and stuff. Probably gonna ditch the leaf springs here in a few weeks...:D


Glad to hear the sensor is working out for you.

While I'm thinking about it can you get me some pics that show HOW your bedsides mount. I'm guessing with some sort of tabs. I view from the inside and outside would be great.

awsumdc
05-08-2009, 09:24 AM
yep. I haven't really ridden in the last 2 weeks. Got the new tires out once.

In the meantime I've been fixing a lot of piddly leaks and stuff. Probably gonna ditch the leaf springs here in a few weeks...:D


Glad to hear the sensor is working out for you.

While I'm thinking about it can you get me some pics that show HOW your bedsides mount. I'm guessing with some sort of tabs. I view from the inside and outside would be great.

Here ya go.


Inside.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC008891.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/14469/cat/500)

Outside
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC00888.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/14468/cat/500)

These are Camburg glass mount tabs. I'll get a picture of how they look when the are not mounted to a frame. I love them because they are bith strong and easy to work with. I built a frame to mount them on then the glass is mounted to the tabs. That way I can either just undo 4 bolts and take the frame and glass off as one unit or I can leave the frame on the truck and remove just the glass.

Mythica
05-08-2009, 09:29 AM
P.S. I'm 84" outside rubber to outside rubber.


Isnt your wheel base close to 126"?

You must mean inside of tire to inside of tire O----O ??

Mr Tacomi
05-08-2009, 10:35 AM
84" Wide

FAUX X 4
05-08-2009, 10:55 AM
Going up that hill is easy. Going down is another story all together. Let me see if I can find the videos of the people who went down that wall.:eek:

P.S. I'm 84" outside rubber to outside rubber.

Here ya go! These were the guys we were running with that day. Some really cool guys but as you can tell they had no regard for the well being of their trucks. So I took the skinny route. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4eMNPv8cM&feature=channel_page

I see you were hangin with the Brawlers.......... a few trips out with them boys and you'll be headed down the slippery slope to Raisin country! ;)

Mythica
05-08-2009, 10:58 AM
84" Wide

LOL i am a dumb ass sometimes......

FAUX X 4
05-08-2009, 10:59 AM
LOL i am a dumb ass sometimes......

I think his wheelbase is closer to 150" :eek:............... :lmao:

awsumdc
05-08-2009, 11:00 AM
Isnt your wheel base close to 126"?

You must mean inside of tire to inside of tire O----O ??

Nope. From side to side I'm at 84" wide. My wheel base is 129" from center of wheel to center of wheel front to back.

awsumdc
05-08-2009, 11:02 AM
I see you were hangin with the Brawlers.......... a few trips out with them boys and you'll be headed down the slippery slope to Raisin country! ;)

Yeah, those guys are nuts. But fun. I'm gonna keep my trcu as straight as possible:rolleyes:. I don't like rasins.:p

awsumdc
05-08-2009, 11:04 AM
I think his wheelbase is closer to 150" :eek:............... :lmao:

Nooooo...... it was 196". I cut itm in half then added a few inches, shaved the rear a bit, stuck a big bumper on the front and frenched my rear lights and wound up at 129"....;)

Lets see how many people ask about that:p

FAUX X 4
05-08-2009, 11:08 AM
Yeah, those guys are nuts. But fun. I'm gonna keep my trcu as straight as possible:rolleyes:. I don't like rasins.:p

Nooooo...... it was 196". I cut itm in half then added a few inches, shaved the rear a bit, stuck a big bumper on the front and frenched my rear lights and wound up at 129"....;)

Lets see how many people ask about that:p

:lmao:........ Raisins are good for the digestive tract! ;)

So, what was the real stock wheelbase on that bus? I have managed to wind up at my trucks original stock wheelbase again (123")......... only had to move the rear axle forward 3 inches and bash the firewall in a couple to get there! :lmao:

Mythica
05-08-2009, 11:13 AM
well i dont feel as long at 126" any more....

awsumdc
05-08-2009, 11:15 AM
:lmao:........ Raisins are good for the digestive tract! ;)

So, what was the real stock wheelbase on that bus? I have managed to wind up at my trucks original stock wheelbase again (123")......... only had to move the rear axle forward 3 inches and bash the firewall in a couple to get there! :lmao:

The stock wheel base was 127.8" when new so it didn't grow that much. I am going to lengthen it by an inch in the next few weeks though. Get some rubbing at full stuff hard turn.

FAUX X 4
05-08-2009, 11:25 AM
The stock wheel base was 127.8" when new so it didn't grow that much. I am going to lengthen it by an inch in the next few weeks though. Get some rubbing at full stuff hard turn.
here's a few smilies that I feel better describe what I'd do...

:saw::xsmash::xbeer2::kewl:

Ultimately, I'd like to get my wheelbase down to around 116-118....... that should be good with my belly height and some 42-47 inch tires! :D

Mr Tacomi
05-08-2009, 11:37 AM
The stock wheel base was 127.8" when new so it didn't grow that much. I am going to lengthen it by an inch in the next few weeks though. Get some rubbing at full stuff hard turn.

I thought I heard something on that Gatekeeper video :D

...and just to say.. YES, I am jealous, that truck is awesome, but better than that is that you are using it, and pushing it! (well seeing how small of a space you can put your rather large truck LOL!)

brinner
05-09-2009, 12:21 AM
The stock wheel base was 127.8" when new so it didn't grow that much. I am going to lengthen it by an inch in the next few weeks though. Get some rubbing at full stuff hard turn.



.....and now i totally feel better for going 1-2" forward on mine. (cause i have stock fenders)

awsumdc
05-09-2009, 08:48 AM
I thought I heard something on that Gatekeeper video :D

...and just to say.. YES, I am jealous, that truck is awesome, but better than that is that you are using it, and pushing it! (well seeing how small of a space you can put your rather large truck LOL!)

Yes! When I was backing up with the wheels turned right full lock and stuffed, I was rubbing.

....and thank you. I really did build it to play with and I'm not afraid to take to places. I just wont take it somewhere where I know damage will happen. To me thats just plain stupid.:rolleyes: I've always told people that truck isn't really that big. I've sat next to early toy pickups and some early Taco's that are bigger than mine.:D

awsumdc
05-09-2009, 08:51 AM
.....and now i totally feel better for going 1-2" forward on mine. (cause i have stock fenders)

Yeah, is your going to put anything on it bigger than 33's and you want to have some up travel, your gonna need to move that ale forward. You still may even need to trim your body mounts under the front part of the door.

awsumdc
05-09-2009, 09:14 AM
here's a few smilies that I feel better describe what I'd do...

:saw::xsmash::xbeer2::kewl:

Ultimately, I'd like to get my wheelbase down to around 116-118....... that should be good with my belly height and some 42-47 inch tires! :D

In my opinion, and seeing your truck perform, I'd say your wheel base is perfect as it is if you were to through some 42's on it. I don't understand the logic of going down to jeep size wheel base's so you can go around a corner without backing up but losing your stability in the process. You guys have some huge waterfalls out there and those longer wheel base's help you get up those. As far as going around tight corners are concerned, with 42's you should be able to just drive over them like I do.

Was told my truck was too long and too big for Black Bear Pass in Colorado. The should have told the driver.:D
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/blackbear3.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17647/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/blackbear4.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17646/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/big_sexy_2.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17649/cat/500)

At 129" i've gone every where a jeep has gone and further and I'm alot more stable tahn they are. I mean, even the jeeps and FJ40's are stretching there wheel base's while you guys are shortening yours. I just think you guys are going in the wrong direction.:( Just my :2cents: I think your early Tacos are the perfect platform for the perfect offroad vehicle when sased.
Dan's trcuk in my opinion, is the most balanced sas out there. Can be driven as a daily driver, has great articulation and can go anywhere a jeep can go.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_2743.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/13661/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_2779.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/13660/cat/500)

If you want to keep the bed just bob it and throw some 40's or 42's on it and enjoy. Me, I'll be happy at 130".:D Call me a fool, but I feel really good with my long wheel base.:p

Munssey
05-09-2009, 10:47 AM
Was told my truck was too long and too big for Black Bear Pass in Colorado. The should have told the driver.:D
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/blackbear3.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17647/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/blackbear4.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17646/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/big_sexy_2.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17649/cat/500)



Big's wheel base came in handy a few times down Black Bear. Where others had to start their turn on the switchbacks exactly where the trail led them, Big could just drop the Pass-Front off the side early and still not have the rear feel like it was coming over the cab. When the turns got tighter and I figured it out, it turned into a game to turn with less points than the FJ's in front of us.

Right after that pic was when we scored a very flexy 3-point turn when the FJs in front did it in 7 =)

Gotta make a game out of it sometimes, right?

Wes
05-09-2009, 01:51 PM
.

Passengers have to pass the time somehow, right?

awsumdc
05-09-2009, 07:52 PM
.

Munssey was actually driving the truck the whole time in Colorado. I let him take it up there for the FJ Summit.

metalarts
05-11-2009, 03:29 AM
thats some beautiful country in those shots. looks like your driving in front of a painting. :cool:

interesting disscussion on wheelbase. seems like different solutions favor their local topography and conditions. even just in our area; the further north you go the tighter things get (timber density) and wheelbases seems to shrink.

awsumdc
05-11-2009, 09:16 AM
thats some beautiful country in those shots. looks like your driving in front of a painting. :cool:

interesting disscussion on wheelbase. seems like different solutions favor their local topography and conditions. even just in our area; the further north you go the tighter things get (timber density) and wheelbases seems to shrink.

I've never been there before, but the people that took my truck there said it was like being on top of the world. One day I'll get there.

I have noticed that with trees, a shorter wheel base is advantages. However, I squeezed my big truck through some really tight sections of trees going down the Rubicon trail from the Tahoe side. I did have to back up once or twice, but I still got through. I think it really comes down to personal preference instead of an actual benefit because there is a compromise no matter which direction you go in when dealing with wheel base.

The shorter it is the more unstable it becomes. The longer your wheel base is the harder it is to negotiate tight turns.

Myself, I like long wheel base's. I hate feeling tippy. I'll make three and four point turns all day long as long as I don't have to get tippy.:p

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 11:10 AM
In my opinion... Yada, yada, yada... long wheelbase, short wheelbase... yada, yada, yada :)

I'm not worried about loosing a little stability at 85" wide and 75" tall. :D

Honestly, after watching Strokes' truck perform as well as it does at 119" and wheeling with all the low wide buggies/truggies we have here (all around 114-118) I think my plan of moving the rear forward another 5" would make my truck a better balance. Being able to turn a little tighter is a bonus, but not my motivation.......... motivation is to keep the low center of gravity, stability and be able to lessen the belly to rock contact. Of course, this is all a distant day-dream right now, as I'm more concerned about getting an axle built for the front that can make it more than 30 feet before it plays dead! :rolleyes:

BOVADS
05-11-2009, 12:35 PM
I'm more concerned about getting an axle built for the front that can make it more than 30 feet before it plays dead! :rolleyes:

60's, all the cool kids are doing it:D

Kaistie
05-11-2009, 12:38 PM
I will also shorten up a bit, but only to about 124. I like the length.

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 12:40 PM
60's, all the cool kids are doing it:D

Well, I won't be making that plural on mine.......... no reason to downgrade! :flipoff4:

Ever hear from your buddy if he can locate me a 79 housing? :D

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 12:41 PM
I will also shorten up a bit, but only to about 124. I like the length.

WTH are you at right now??? I thought you were closer to my wheelbase?

BOVADS
05-11-2009, 12:56 PM
Well, I won't be making that plural on mine.......... no reason to downgrade! :flipoff4:

Ever hear from your buddy if he can locate me a 79 housing? :D

he is looking, nothing yet, tons of passenger side drops, but not hi-pin

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 01:03 PM
he is looking, nothing yet, tons of passenger side drops, but not hi-pin

Lemme know if he finds any driver drop....... doesn't necessarily have to be hi-pinion, so long as it has some room for a lower link mount on the driver side :D

01 Tundra
05-11-2009, 03:30 PM
132".....I win.....I think :flipoff4:

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 03:38 PM
132".....I win.....I think :flipoff4:


Longest and lowest, but certainly not slowest! :thumbs:

Wes
05-11-2009, 03:48 PM
132".....I win.....I think :flipoff4:

I'm at 132" now - was 133. I wish I was around 125" for whatever reason. Only 63" wide up front.

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 03:52 PM
WOW!!!! :eek:.............. How far forward is the front and how far back is the rear? I can't even imagine my wheelbase that long....... I'd scrape pulling out of my driveway! :lmao:

01 Tundra
05-11-2009, 03:52 PM
I'm at 132" now - was 133. I wish I was around 125" for whatever reason. Only 63" wide up front.

How in the hell does your rig have that kind of wheelbase? I would have never guessed that one. I believe mines around 86"-87" wide (out to out on the front tires) now.

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 03:56 PM
How in the hell does your rig have that kind of wheelbase?

That's what I'm sayin' :eek:

Wes
05-11-2009, 03:58 PM
How in the hell does your rig have that kind of wheelbase? I would have never guessed that one. I believe mines around 86"-87" wide (out to out on the front tires) now.

You are talking about center to center, right? I didn't know what I was doing when I built it and everything I read said push it forward so thats what I did.


I had to pull it back because the 35's kept hitting the front of the fender well and popping my corners out. Don't know what outside tire to outside tire is- I want the Sky kit to throw it out another 1.5" per side.

hytenor
05-11-2009, 04:02 PM
You are talking about center to center, right? I didn't know what I was doing when I built it and everything I read said push it forward so thats what I did.


I had to pull it back because the 35's kept hitting the front of the fender well and popping my corners out. Don't know what outside tire to outside tire is- I want the Sky kit to throw it out another 1.5" per side.

how the hell is your wb 10" longer than mine?? we have the same truck :confused: If I pushed things that far forward the wheels would be past the bumper, LOL
I think your measuring skills are lackin' :rolleyes:

01 Tundra
05-11-2009, 04:03 PM
Damn....I bet your approach angle is sweet with the tires pushed that far forward. I didn't even notice it being pushed that far forward when we were on the Rubicon.

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 04:04 PM
You are talking about center to center, right? I didn't know what I was doing when I built it and everything I read said push it forward so thats what I did.


I had to pull it back because the 35's kept hitting the front of the fender well and popping my corners out. Don't know what outside tire to outside tire is- I want the Sky kit to throw it out another 1.5" per side.

DAMN!!!!.......... I have pulled the wire harness out of the headlight with my tire rubbing it (with 40's) and my axle is only about 2-3" forward of stock........ I'd have to imagine yours is 6-7" forward if your rubbing 35's like that........... but that still doesn't explain how you could be at 133-132 unless your rear axle is moved back a couple/few inches???

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 04:05 PM
how the hell is your wb 10" longer than mine?? we have the same truck :confused: If I pushed things that far forward the wheels would be past the bumper, LOL
I think your measuring skills are lackin' :rolleyes:

:withstup: :D

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 04:06 PM
Now, Wyatt's truck on the other hand, I can totally see being like 136-155 feet. :D

01 Tundra
05-11-2009, 04:08 PM
Mine was 129" stock, so I guess I pushed my front axle forward 3".

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 04:13 PM
"Stock" wheelbase of 123"........... just with a everything pushed forward a tad. :D
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/AzRocks_09/20090329_100.jpg

Wes
05-11-2009, 04:38 PM
Maybe I am full of shit?

hytenor
05-11-2009, 04:40 PM
Maybe I am full of shit?

was there ever a question? :p

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 04:40 PM
Maybe I am full of shit?

The possibilities are endless! :D

hytenor
05-11-2009, 04:41 PM
The possibilities are endless! :D

I just refer people to my sig :D

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 04:43 PM
Maybe he's got a metric tape measure or nobody to hold the other end while he measures (and the truck is rolling)??? :p

Wes
05-11-2009, 04:44 PM
So, you know I used to drink alot... right?
and yes- I do have a metric tape measure.

~73.5 to the top of the cab, 76.5" wide and umm... ~125.5" c-c on the axles. I am sure it was at least 128" at some point :o

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 04:52 PM
So, you know I used to drink alot... right? :o

:lmao: That does have an effect of one's ability to read the little tic's on a tape measure accurately! :xbeer2:

Wes
05-11-2009, 04:58 PM
:lmao: That does have an effect of one's ability to read the little tic's on a tape measure accurately! :xbeer2:

On the bright side, its not like I had any credibility to begin with.

FAUX X 4
05-11-2009, 05:07 PM
On the bright side, its not like I had any credibility to begin with.
:lmao: Credibility is overrated! :D

hytenor
05-11-2009, 06:19 PM
I was gonna comment that Wes usually has a beer in one hand so that makes usinga tape measure kinda difficult :p

credibility? what's that?

Wes
05-12-2009, 07:59 AM
I was gonna comment that Wes usually has a beer in one hand so that makes usinga tape measure kinda difficult :p

credibility? what's that?

Yeah, I was kind of stoked that this time when I measured it was the same on both sides... I think.

awsumdc
05-12-2009, 09:01 AM
Now, Wyatt's truck on the other hand, I can totally see being like 136-155 feet. :D

Hey, I just passed a semi and he thought mine was long...... OOh, maybe I should explain that:o My wheel base I mean......:rolleyes:

awsumdc
05-12-2009, 09:03 AM
So, you know I used to drink alot... right?
and yes- I do have a metric tape measure.

~73.5 to the top of the cab, 76.5" wide and umm... ~125.5" c-c on the axles. I am sure it was at least 128" at some point :o

Snicker snicker........:o

FAUX X 4
05-12-2009, 10:57 AM
Yeah, I was kind of stoked that this time when I measured it was the same on both sides... I think.
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

FAUX X 4
05-12-2009, 10:59 AM
Hey, I just passed a semi and he thought mine was long...... OOh, maybe I should explain that:o My wheel base I mean......:rolleyes:

Of course yours was longer!....... I mean if his was only semi............ nevermind! :D

hytenor
05-12-2009, 11:18 AM
Yeah, I was kind of stoked that this time when I measured it was the same on both sides... I think.

but isn't it more interesting going down the road sideways?

Wes
05-12-2009, 11:24 AM
but isn't it more interesting going down the road sideways?

Well, I don't notice it driving and I'm so slow that I'm last in line if I go somewhere with a group so nobody is back there to tell me.

Tires have been wearing better since the last "adjustment" though... amazing how much better things end up on a lift.

awsumdc
07-11-2009, 09:08 AM
Ok, The trucks been in the shop for awhile now and i've finally been able to get to it. We did the rear end of the truck and now it's time for the front.

First, we need to lower the front of the truck down by two inches. On this truck the only way to do that is to redo the shock towers because the coils are turned all the way up.

First we did some measurements. We needed to move the mount point 2" higher in the engine bay an 1" out board to help clear the the frame at full droop.

Sitting in the shop waiting for somebody to pay it some attention.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01519.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/29265/cat/500)

Here are the old towers. They worked really well but it was incredibly hard to remove the shocks and they trapped water in the bottom..... so a new design was in order. I wanted something that was as strong if not stronger, didn't trap water, and was easy for me to remove the shocks without the need for three other people to help me.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC015201.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/29266/cat/500)

Here is the start of the new towers. Now, alot of people are going to ask why we didn't just bend the tube instead of making a three piece hoop. The answer is space. We had to go high and tight into the engine bay, plus the orientation of the tube tabs required it to be a three piece design.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC015461.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30918/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01545.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30920/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC015441.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30919/cat/500)

I used tube tabs from Ballistic Fab that totally circle the tube. This way you weld all the way around the tab and tube and it creates a stronger mount.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01557.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30925/cat/500)

We needed to make sure nothing was going to move around so we added some supports.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC015551.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30929/cat/500)

Then we started the cross bars that cover the engine. We made these the same way we make all of them. With Camburg tube clamps so that we can still get to the engine.
This is the rear one. We don't have the front one done yet. When it is finished, the two will be tied together and we'll put something cool on the top. Yes... we started the truck and revved the engine to make sure that no vital parts touched the cross bar while the engine torques. Everything was fine.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC015591.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30927/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01562.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30930/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01560.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30928/cat/500)

..So next update will be the completed cross bar then it's time to remove the front axle and paint everything up front.

But before we do that, I thought I'd give you a teaser.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC01548.JPG (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/30932/cat/500)

Here is the front plate bumper parts from our Fj Cruiser that we are making the Tacoma front bumper from. Please dont ask yet about a time frame... we're not sure yet. We're using my truck to get general demensoins from and then we'll tighten it up with a stock Taco. Stay tuned.

Mythica
07-13-2009, 11:06 AM
nicely done!!

Hilux_MAX
07-13-2009, 06:13 PM
Looking good Wyatt......may I ask why are you lowering here 2" ?

is the centre of gravity too high?

will you need to go smaller tyres too?

awsumdc
07-13-2009, 08:43 PM
nicely done!!

Thank you very much.

awsumdc
07-13-2009, 08:47 PM
Looking good Wyatt......may I ask why are you lowering here 2" ?

is the centre of gravity too high?

will you need to go smaller tyres too?

Thank you. The truck always sat nose high by 2" and I need to get it down so the lights don't shine in the eyes of the drivers in front of me and it also helps with the center of gravity. It was always very stable because it is as wide as it is tall, 84". Now it will be shorter than it is tall.

Tires will stay the same. I moved the front axle forward by 1/4". That helped with my caster as well as clearing the rear part of the front fenders.

GatorTaco
07-13-2009, 08:51 PM
Now it will be shorter than it is tall

Makes sense. ;)

Great work on everything as always- I'm looking forward to it!

awsumdc
07-14-2009, 10:09 AM
Makes sense. ;)

Great work on everything as always- I'm looking forward to it!

:doh: I ment to say "shorter than it is wide"

FAUX X 4
07-14-2009, 10:42 AM
Lookin good Wyatt! :kewl:

awsumdc
07-14-2009, 12:02 PM
Lookin good Wyatt! :kewl:

Thanks Eric. Hey, I need to talk to you tonight. I'll pm you my number.

4xClover
07-14-2009, 12:15 PM
Damn Wyatt! That looks SWEET!

Timbuddha
07-16-2009, 07:48 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only one working on my junk. Looks good!

Tim

awsumdc
07-16-2009, 10:07 PM
Damn Wyatt! That looks SWEET!

Thank you very much.:)

awsumdc
07-16-2009, 10:09 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only one working on my junk. Looks good!

Tim


Thanks Timmmay!

Yeah, this needed to be done for a long time now. It jus sat nose high for too long.

What are you working on?

Jomentum
07-16-2009, 10:12 PM
What are you working on?

Working on getting some of you Cali boys out to Nat. Take Over :xrocker:


Seem's like everyone is taking a break and wrenching on their own junk for a change :clap:

awsumdc
07-16-2009, 10:22 PM
Working on getting some of you Cali boys out to Nat. Take Over :xrocker:


Seem's like everyone is taking a break and wrenching on their own junk for a change :clap:

I would have loved to get there this year but man the economy is beating my business to death and my wife has me on a plane to Florida in a week. Yeah, I know.... Florida in July and August. Who said THAT was a good idea.

Timbuddha
07-17-2009, 12:04 AM
Thanks Timmmay!

Yeah, this needed to be done for a long time now. It jus sat nose high for too long.

What are you working on?

Gears. :)

awsumdc
07-17-2009, 09:09 AM
Gears. :)

Cool:cool:

hytenor
07-17-2009, 11:13 AM
Gears. :)

what broke?

:p

Timbuddha
07-17-2009, 02:39 PM
Nothing broke. I've had 4.88s with 37s for too long. I should have gone with 5.29s in the first place, but oh well.

Tim

hytenor
07-17-2009, 03:16 PM
Nothing broke. I've had 4.88s with 37s for too long. I should have gone with 5.29s in the first place, but oh well.

Tim

ah, ;)

brinner
07-17-2009, 04:16 PM
so what happened to that whole "the pinion on the 5.29 is abit too small" arguement that i heard awhile back?


oh and just to not make this an off-topic post................uuuuhhhh the bumper looks good wyatt.

hytenor
07-17-2009, 05:05 PM
so what happened to that whole "the pinion on the 5.29 is abit too small" arguement that i heard awhile back?


oh and just to not make this an off-topic post................uuuuhhhh the bumper looks good wyatt.

got debunked along with the '5.71s are weak' too.

Timbuddha
07-17-2009, 05:20 PM
so what happened to that whole "the pinion on the 5.29 is abit too small" arguement that i heard awhile back?


oh and just to not make this an off-topic post................uuuuhhhh the bumper looks good wyatt.

If I do break them, then it's time for 609s or something stronger, but I'm a light foot on the trail preferring to "bump it" nicely. I've broken 1 axle shaft in my years of wheeling and I just got really tired of the lack of power with 37s, so now to 5.29s and if that isn't enough then a supercharger. :)

hytenor
07-17-2009, 05:38 PM
hmm, Taco shafts, 37s, SC, crawler...SNAP! :p

FAUX X 4
07-17-2009, 05:41 PM
hmm, Taco shafts, 37s, SC, crawler, the mall... GOLDEN! :p

I fixed your equation to reflect better accuracy! :D

hytenor
07-17-2009, 05:43 PM
I fixed your equation to reflect better accuracy! :D

I dunno...I've seen posts about broken axles with that combo...with street use :p

Mr Tacomi
07-17-2009, 07:36 PM
If I do break them, then it's time for 609s or something stronger, but I'm a light foot on the trail preferring to "bump it" nicely. I've broken 1 axle shaft in my years of wheeling and I just got really tired of the lack of power with 37s, so now to 5.29s and if that isn't enough then a supercharger. :)

Tim- Just got back from Rubicon... 1st run on my 5.29's... Lot's of hills on the way there, and the tranny managed to stay in overdrive and torque converter locked unless I had my foot in it climbing a steeper grade. Coming home I was able to go 75-80 with the torque converter staying locked, I could press the pedal and make it unlock if I wanted, but in general driving on the highway, the tranny would stay in OD w/TC locked. I'd call it a successful gear choice. Power is maybe a touch better than 35's w/4.88's. It's no Corvette, but when I dropped it down to 3rd or 2nd and got the rev's into the power band, it always accelerated pretty decent... and my rig must be just short of 6k lbs (a lot of camping gear & spares & & tools & heavy ass rear axle & stuff & stuff).

Wyatt- good job on the lowering.. I hate that my rig tends to be a bit lower in the rear.

Hayes
07-17-2009, 09:35 PM
just went through all 15 pages, this is one AWESOME build. Wish I had that kind of money.

Timbuddha
07-18-2009, 01:11 AM
Tim- Just got back from Rubicon... 1st run on my 5.29's... Lot's of hills on the way there, and the tranny managed to stay in overdrive and torque converter locked unless I had my foot in it climbing a steeper grade. Coming home I was able to go 75-80 with the torque converter staying locked, I could press the pedal and make it unlock if I wanted, but in general driving on the highway, the tranny would stay in OD w/TC locked. I'd call it a successful gear choice. Power is maybe a touch better than 35's w/4.88's. It's no Corvette, but when I dropped it down to 3rd or 2nd and got the rev's into the power band, it always accelerated pretty decent... and my rig must be just short of 6k lbs (a lot of camping gear & spares & & tools & heavy ass rear axle & stuff & stuff).

Wyatt- good job on the lowering.. I hate that my rig tends to be a bit lower in the rear.

Glad to hear it. Now, if I could just finish these darn axles seals!

awsumdc
07-18-2009, 09:28 AM
Wyatt- good job on the lowering.. I hate that my rig tends to be a bit lower in the rear.

Thanks. It really had to get done.

awsumdc
07-18-2009, 09:33 AM
just went through all 15 pages, this is one AWESOME build. Wish I had that kind of money.

Thank you very much.

Here is a more detailed build thread of it.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/builds/23170-building-beast.html

awsumdc
07-18-2009, 11:04 PM
Got to the shop and finished working on the shock towers and the cross bar.

These are the Camburg clamps that we used for alot of stuff on his truck that requires frames and such to be removed but also requires a strong fondation. Haven't found anything that is as clean and srong as these. They are a little pricey but they wrok really well.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_111.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32548/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_112.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32547/cat/500)

Then we tacked on the front section and made sure everyhting fit.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_114.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32549/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_118.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32562/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_115.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32550/cat/500)

We took it off after tacking on the center bars.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_120.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32552/cat/500)

Then we added the center bars and welded everything up.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_122.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32551/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_124.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32555/cat/500)

All finished. We were going to add something fancy in the midle but some times les is more, ( read tiger stripes )
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_132.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32556/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_130.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32554/cat/500)

When grade 8 just aint enough. F-911 bolts baby. I don't use anything else. On a coilover setup, these 1/2" bolts are what is holding the wieght of your truck and they better be strong. I don't recommend using anything less than grade 8 and I won't use anything but F-911 for this.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_116.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32557/cat/500)

Test fit the shocks and still need to do alittle triming on the inner fender and then paint.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_126.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32558/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_127.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32559/cat/500)

Now it's just waiting for paint. I'll be gone for three weeks so it's gonna sit for awhile. Maybe Jason will get the bumper going by then. :rolleyes:

Mr Tacomi
07-18-2009, 11:11 PM
Wyatt- With those Camburg clamps (man those things look awesome), you have the rear cross-bar nearly vertical, and the front bar is, let's say, 45. With them welded together, is there any issue getting the cross-bar assembly back into place? Are you gonna have to adjust your limit straps to correspond with the raised C/O's or did the C/O's have a little 'extra' length left in them?

100% tech, can ya believe it?

awsumdc
07-19-2009, 09:02 AM
Wyatt- With those Camburg clamps (man those things look awesome), you have the rear cross-bar nearly vertical, and the front bar is, let's say, 45. With them welded together, is there any issue getting the cross-bar assembly back into place? Are you gonna have to adjust your limit straps to correspond with the raised C/O's or did the C/O's have a little 'extra' length left in them?

100% tech, can ya believe it?

We were concerned about that as well.
Before we welded everything together, we made sure that the orientaion of the clamps were such that when you push the assymbly back it comes off and then you just do the opposite thing to get it back on again. It slides right into place.
There is enough room that you have a little play when you start to move it back towards the fire wall. Then it just comes right off.

Yes, I will have to either adjust my limit straps or get some a couple inches longer. Haven't tested that yet to see but we knew we were going to have to do something.

awsumdc
08-17-2009, 09:21 PM
OK!

Here is the first picture of it painted and ready to put it back together.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture31.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36333/cat/500)

Bare with me. My daughter took these pictures with her camera which is a really nice one, and then she put them onto her computer using some program I know nothing about and for some reason we can't get them to up load onto my computer so she is taking a computer photo of her screen for each picture and the cropping it in photoshop and then emailing me the pictures. Long prcess, but now it's working. I'll have more up later.

Here are the rest.
Waiting for it's coilovers.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture7.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36335/cat/500)

Engine cage all done.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture21.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36336/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture13.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36340/cat/500)

It was a tight sqeeze for the air intake but we made it work.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture12.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36339/cat/500)

Got the coilovers back in.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture10.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36338/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture19.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36344/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture17.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36341/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture9.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36337/cat/500)

Now "BIG SEXY" is back on the ground and her nose is out of the air.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture201.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36342/cat/500)
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture211.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36343/cat/500)

Put the MTR's back on.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_9080act4.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36346/cat/500)
Now this is how the other pictures should have been.

And one last one for us all.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_9083act4.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/36345/cat/500)
Enjoy!

brinner
08-17-2009, 10:30 PM
When grade 8 just aint enough. F-911 bolts baby. I don't use anything else. On a coilover setup, these 1/2" bolts are what is holding the wieght of your truck and they better be strong. I don't recommend using anything less than grade 8 and I won't use anything but F-911 for this.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wyatt_116.jpg (http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/32557/cat/500)







nnnniiiccceeeee...............http://www.s427.ch/blog/images/Divers/TrumanShow03.jpg














no but really...that things looks good :kewl:

Mythica
08-18-2009, 01:41 AM
well done! :xozzy:

I must say i LOVE and hate your truck all at the same time. :eek:


LOL fawking awesome! :dualing:

awsumdc
08-18-2009, 09:26 AM
well done! :xozzy:

I must say i LOVE and hate your truck all at the same time. :eek:


LOL fawking awesome! :dualing:

Thank you very much. You have a pm.

awsumdc
08-18-2009, 09:31 AM
nnnniiiccceeeee...............http://www.s427.ch/blog/images/Divers/TrumanShow03.jpg














no but really...that things looks good :kewl:

Thank you so much. Keep up the good work on yours.

awsumdc
12-31-2009, 08:17 PM
Happy New Year's people.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/crazynewyear101.gif

hytenor
12-31-2009, 11:14 PM
Happy New Year's people.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/crazynewyear101.gif

nice portrait...your wife take that? :D

awsumdc
01-01-2010, 11:17 AM
nice portrait...your wife take that? :D

Why yes Chris, she did. I told her that she needed to make sure she got my best side. I think she did quite the good job. Best picture I have ever taken.:p

hytenor
01-01-2010, 02:45 PM
Why yes Chris, she did. I told her that she needed to make sure she got my best side. I think she did quite the good job. Best picture I have ever taken.:p

I sure hope your kids got your wife's looks :p

awsumdc
01-09-2010, 10:43 PM
I sure hope your kids got your wife's looks :p

Yes, yes they did. And she's quite pretty too.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/holiday%20pictures/IMG_3740-2.jpg
:p

hytenor
01-10-2010, 01:55 AM
Yes, yes they did. And she's quite pretty too.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/holiday%20pictures/IMG_3740-2.jpg
:p

nice catch!

not as nice as mine :D ...but nice :p

awsumdc
01-10-2010, 05:59 PM
Thanks Chris. ;) My high school sweetheart

awsumdc
06-27-2010, 10:02 PM
Haven't updated this thread in a while.

The Beast Gets a New T-Case

When Toyota built the new Tacoma's, they thought it would be nice to have an entirely electronically controlled transfer case. Not a bad idea for the guy who wants t take his date on a picnic but not so good for someone like me. Now the transfer case is pretty strong. The strongest yet to be put into a Taco, but the actuator can be troublesome. Water and dirt gets in it and then your stuck not being able to shift it at all at times. Cleaning it got old for me.

This is the little culprit.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03281800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03280800x600.jpg

Some people have tried to make this t-case into a manual setup but because of the way it is shifted, with the actuator on a single rod, it meant having to remove the actuator and exposing the t-case internals to dirt and water because a good seal could not be made. When you take the actuator off there is an o ring that stops water from going in and oil from leaving the t-case. I didn't like that option.

Now in Australia and the rest of the world, Toyota was still using a manually shifted t-case for the Hilux which is the international version of the Tacoma if you will. It is shifted b a lever that comes up into the cabin just like all other real 4X4's. Only problem with that case is it is a forward shift. There are rods that come from the front of the case and go into he rear of the transmission and the case is shifted from a lever that is placed on top of the rear o the transmission.

Hilux t-case with rods that go into the rear of the transmission is on the right and on the left is a right hand drop chain drive case from a Prado in Australia.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/Australia%20trip/DSC02934640x480.jpg

The Hilux t-case wont work for our Taco's because of this arrangement.

Then in 2007 Toyota came out with the FJ Cruiser and in it was what I needed. The strongest chain driven case that Toyota has ever made and it was a top shift with a lever instead of the forward shift of the Hilux.

2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser fully manual chain drive t-case.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03276800x600.jpg

So this is the case that is going into The Beast.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03267800x600.jpg[/IMG
[IMG]http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03269800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03268800x600.jpg

I had to take the sensors from my Taco case and put them onto the FJ case. You will eed to plug the rear hole becasue you only need to use the front one on the drivers side and the other port on the passenger side.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03270800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03277800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03275800x600.jpg

Because of the drive shafts I am using I had to have my flanges triple drilled. That way I can use what ever Toyota drive shaft that I want.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03274800x600-1.jpg

I then installed my vehicle speed sensor I made for my Tacoma t-case as well.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03278800x600.jpg

OK. Here is the new Marlin Crawler. It has the 360 clockable rear plate,the new larger HD bearing and the 4.70:1 XD gears.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03294800x600.jpg

The rear plate can be installed in any configuration at 5* increments. I have it at 0 right now because I would have to redo my skid plate to clock my T-case, but I will do it at some point.

In these next pictures you can see the points at which you can clock your case.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03288800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03289800x600.jpg

Here is the case with the rear clocking plate off of it.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03290800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03291800x600.jpg

Here is the rear clocking plate by itself.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03292800x600.jpg

I also recieved the short throw shifter as well for the FJ Case.. In this picture you can see the difference between the short throw shifter and the stock shifter. The short throw shifter moves the pivot point of the shift lever up and as a result shortens the throw of the shift handle.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03283800x600.jpg

Here the short throw base is attached to the transfer case.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03293800x600.jpg

then I have the Heavy Duty transfer case mount from 4x Innovations. Beefy little sucker. Will stop the drivetrain from moving all over the place while I'm climbing some of those water falls in Arizona.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03285800x600.jpg

awsumdc
06-27-2010, 10:32 PM
I did the final setting of the clocking ring on the crawler. Since I'm not clocking the T-case at this time I set it at 0. When you install the clocking plate you will need to run a small thin bead of ultra gray around grooved area to seal it.

This is the grooved area you will need to seal with ultra gray. You just need a small amount and then bolt it down.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03292800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03297800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03299800x600.jpg

Next was the short shift. There are two roll pins that needs to be sealed so that oil doesn't escape from them.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03300800x600-1.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03302800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03303800x600-1.jpg

I had to work on this myself while doing the normal honey do's but still got it in. Without a tranny jack and a truck that is sitting 2 1/2' off the ground pressing the crawler and the t-case up there by my self wasn't going to happen so I put the crawler in first and then the t-case. Worked well because I had to take the t-case in and out a couple of times to check where the lever was going to come up.

First, the crawler goes in. In the '05+ Taco's putting a crawler box in it requires that you use a shifter that goes 90* over to the right just as it exits the shifter base before it comes up into the truck because the auto shifter is in the way. I'm using a Marlin Crawler single twin stick base to accomplish this.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03306800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03307800x600.jpg

The crawler wasn't that hard the go in by itself. Usually I bolt it to the T-case and put them in at the same time but because I was by myself I ad to do it this way. I think I'm going to do all of them this way from now on. Went in without a hitch. But then again, this aint my first rodeo
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03316800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03317800x600.jpg

Next was the T case. I had to lift the T-case up and bolt it to the crawler so I could get an accurate position for the shifter. After I marked the spot I removed the t-case and drilled a small hole at the center of my mark from the bottom and went inside to see where it came through. Once I did that I needed to make a 3" hole and put the t-case back in and do a dry fit.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03320800x600.jpg

So it was time to get the FJ Cruiser Transfer Case into it's new and final home. Into the Belly of "The Beast"!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03323800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03324800x600.jpg

OK. So after being in bed for a week, I finally got out of the house for a couple of hours and got the shift lever done for the transfer case. I didn't like the stock Toyota shifter handle because they are kinda big and I wanted to kep from making the cup holder hole too big so I got some 1/2" round steel and made my own handle.

I figured out how much I would need and then I tapped it or died it, I never know which is which. All I know is I put threads on it so I could get the knob on and it works and thats all that matters to me.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03336800x600.jpg

Here it is for it's final test fit.
For those of you that don't know, the transfer case shifter is the one in the rear and the crawler box is the shifter in the front.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03348800x600.jpg

Liike it was meant to be.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03384800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03385800x600.jpg

awsumdc
06-27-2010, 10:58 PM
OK, while i'm messing around with the transfer case and crawler I thought it time t do a change that I have been wanting to do for awhile.

I had my air locker switches on the left side of the steering wheel on the dash and it looked good there but I noticed that when I'm wheeling I would have to switch hands to turn on and off the lockers. I didn't like that.

I wanted to keep my left hand on the steering wheel at all times and control the ancellary equipment with my right hand.

To do this I had to find a place to put these. Looking at helicopters I found that they had some secondary switches in the upper panel above the pilot. So I said to myself, self, if it's good enough for a pilot then it's good enough for me.

I moved the switches from here.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03376800x600.jpg

To here.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03378800x600.jpg

They will be in the little sun glass holder that I never use. Perfect.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03379800x600.jpg

Got the ARB switches in and working awesome. Now I can control all the important stuff while wheeling with out taking my left hand off of the steering wheel or having to look down and around the steering wheel to find the locker switches.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03381800x600.jpg

OK, some of you waned to see what I was going to put in the three spots where I had my ARB switches. I was looking at Fire931's thread on his build up and saw some switches he had that were very similar to the ARB switches so I asked him where he got them and he was kind enough to tell me. They are just like the ARB switches and will illuminate with the dash lights and will illuminate another light when he switch is is on. They were only around $ 12.00 each and were at my door step in two days from ordering them.

Here is the place they went into.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03376800x600.jpg

Here they are in their new home. I have two rock light sets and one for the rear amber lights. I got the rear amber light in red so that if they are on I can be easily warned because they are bright and I don't want to blind someone on the freeway. The others I got in blue just to match the ARB switches.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03397800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03398800x600.jpg

Here they are when the dash light is on.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03399800x600.jpg

I will be changing over all of my after market switches to these switches.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/brock1.jpg

OK. Since I switched to the FJ case, my 4hi and 4lo lights on my dash just stayed on because there was no more actuator back there. I needed to know when I was in 4wd because I have a short throw shift now and sometimes you just think your in two wheel drive when your really in 4wd.

With the help of Kevin ( Fire931 ) ( I say help, heck, he did most of the figuring. I just answered his questions) I did however figure out which wires I needed from the sensors...Yeah! we got it all figured out.

I no longer need a 4wd cpu since I now have an manual t case and a SAS. But I wanted my indicator lights to work on the dash so this is what we did.

We found the 4wd CPU tucked up behind the glove box and up a bit and disconnected to two plugs from the CPU.
First you have to take out the glove box. Pretty simple.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03408800x600.jpg

Then there is a black panel that is held on with 1 10mm bolt and two push in clips. Remove that panel.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03407800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03409800x600.jpg

Once you have that panel removed lay on the floor on your back and look up and you will see a black box with two plugs going to it. This is your CPU. Took me forever to find this and I ended up calling Kevin for hide and seek instructions.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03410800x600.jpg

Pull the two plugs out of it but leave the fuse in at the fuse box. You need it for the lights.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03411800x600.jpg

Next I needed to find the two wires that came from the 4hi sensor and the 4lo sensor at the transfer case. Pretty simple as well. The red w/ blue stripe wire is the 4hi sensor and the yellow with black stripe is the 4lo wire.

4hi wire at the transfer case.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03402800x600.jpg

4 lo wire at the transfer case.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03403800x600.jpg

Then I needed to find which wires went to the lights on the dash. Again, pretty simple. The red wire goes to the 4hi light and the brown with white stripe goes to the 4lo light.

At the CPU you I just spliced the red w/ blue stripe wire from the 4hi sensor to the red wire going to the 4hi light, and then spliced the yellow w/ black stripe wire from the 4lo sensor to the brown w/ white stripe wire going to the 4lo light. Left the plugs unplugged from the CPU and zip tied them up and out of the way.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03412800x600.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03413800x600.jpg

Then I plugged the sensors back up in the appropriate places, the 4lo senors is the forward sensor on the drivers side of the t case and the 4hi sensor is the sesnor on the passenger side of the t case.

Then it was time to test it.
Put the truck in neutral and no lights at all from the 4wd system.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03419800x600.jpg

Then put the FJ Case into 4wd hi and lookie!!! One light!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03417800x600.jpg

Then put the FJ case into 4lo and again the 4lo light comes on. No alrams, no blinking lights and no more electronic shifting t case. I'm a happy man.! No hack job or extra switches to have to remember to turn on when I go into 4wheel drive. Everything is controlled by the wiring system like it came from the factory that way.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC03418800x600.jpg

Now this setup is for the 2nd gen Tacomas with a solid axle swap and an FJ Cruiser transfer case. We do have a solution for those that have a lefty and IFS and for those that want the FJ case with IFS as well for the second gen Taco's

We are currently working on the 4th gen 4runners for the lefty and FJ case with and without SAS and next after that will be the FJ Cruiser.

There now.... all caught up.

hytenor
06-28-2010, 03:01 PM
wow! awesome work!

cb77DEMELLO
06-28-2010, 07:24 PM
Good job lando...

awsumdc
06-28-2010, 09:53 PM
Good job lando...


Thank you! Learned from the best.;)

awsumdc
06-28-2010, 09:54 PM
wow! awesome work!
Thanks Chris. How are you feeling?

awsumdc
08-25-2010, 10:37 PM
Another First

Twin sticks for an FJ Cruiser T-Case in an '05 + Tacoma


http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/IMG_0728640x480.jpg

I wanted to have the ability to have compound low in two wheel drive and no one had done it to an FJ Case yet so I went up to Marlin Crawler and got to work.

For the full install of it go here. Twin Sticks in "The Beast" (http://www.rocksolidtoys.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6141&postcount=178)

I love it! Now I have even more control than I did before.:D

I'm not done with the install yet so don't flame me on the console or lack of a proper shift boot. Ya'll know my work. It'll look like it came from the factory when it's done. I already have a new console for it and have an interior shop all lined up to go to town. It's gonna be sweet.

Scuba
08-26-2010, 12:50 AM
Nice stuff Wyatt!

awsumdc
08-26-2010, 07:56 AM
Nice stuff Wyatt!

Thanks man!

Wgasa84
08-26-2010, 09:48 AM
Looks good Wyatt. I wish I had the time and $$ to work on my pig. It needs a diet!

awsumdc
08-26-2010, 10:01 AM
Looks good Wyatt. I wish I had the time and $$ to work on my pig. It needs a diet!

Hey Chris, thank you very much. How's it going?

I'm getting ready to head up to Marlins round up in a couple of weeks.

Get your truck going man so we can go wheel together again.

awsumdc
10-19-2010, 08:00 AM
Phil dropped b the house on his way home from his epic trip. decide to get a few pics of the trucks together.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC04531640x480.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC04530640x480.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC04534640x480.jpg

I'm on 40's and he's on Big 37's.

Wgasa84
10-20-2010, 10:48 AM
holy cow his rig is tall.. not sure on his type of wheelin' but if it was mine, it would be lowered a good amount.

hytenor
10-20-2010, 02:06 PM
holy cow his rig is tall.. not sure on his type of wheelin' but if it was mine, it would be lowered a good amount.

have you seen Matt's build thread? '05+ Dcab on 37s...20-21" frame height....amazing.

Wgasa84
10-21-2010, 10:53 AM
Haven't seen it. I'm rarely on TTORA anymore. That rig looks like 4Runner... it looks tall compared to Wyatts pig.

I think I missed something. :dunno:

Do you still want that axle center section?

hytenor
10-21-2010, 03:24 PM
Haven't seen it. I'm rarely on TTORA anymore. That rig looks like 4Runner... it looks tall compared to Wyatts pig.

I think I missed something. :dunno:

Do you still want that axle center section?

http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160394
yea, that's a new runner
don't think I'll need the housing now.

SilverSeven
10-21-2010, 05:09 PM
whats the frame height on that runner? Wyatt's is at 25" I think. mine is at 24.5" on 37s. If Wyatt's is really at 25" on 40s, then his is real close to Stroffgen's, take away 2.5" and you're at 22.5"

fire931
10-21-2010, 06:09 PM
gotta remember that when it comes to tires you only calculate half of the difference.. so if the tire is 2" taller in size its only making the truck sit 1" higher...

awsumdc
10-21-2010, 10:13 PM
holy cow his rig is tall.. not sure on his type of wheelin' but if it was mine, it would be lowered a good amount.

He is working on that very thing right now. He did wheel it in Moab as it stands but wasn't happy with how tall it is. He has a better plan for it now.

awsumdc
10-21-2010, 10:18 PM
Well, after having to use the Beast as a daily driver since June now I just went out and measured again and I'm at 25" at the front part of the frame under the front door. I will drop it down another 1" to 11/2" in a couple of weeks but thats as low as I want to go. These things are too long to be any lower than that with the type of wheeling I do. 20" is way too low for me. Id be dragging everything on most of the trails I wheel on if I were that low. As mine sits now it is 3" wider than it is tall. I like that feeling.

awsumdc
10-26-2010, 08:09 PM
OK, so I've always wanted to know how my truck is doing while wheeling, cruising around town and while on the highway so I picked up one of these Scangauge II from DeMello-Offroad but I didn't know whee to put it. I wanted it within easy view but I couldnt figure out a place. Then I talked with Kevin from Armourtech and he told me about this mount that goes above the rearview mirror. Perfect! I ran the wire loom up the a pillar, plugged it into the OBD spot under the dash and then plugged it into the scan gauge and BAM!!! perfect.


http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC04536640x480.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC04538640x480.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC04537640x480.jpg

Mr Tacomi
10-26-2010, 10:41 PM
[QUOTE=awsumdc;2056991]
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC04537640x480.jpg

DUDE... watch out for the guy with the camera in your mirror! :eek:


:D


Keep an eye on the SG.... I don't DD my Tacoma, but have the SG hooked up all the time. I went out to the garage the other night and there was this glow coming from the truck... it was the SG; it had turned itself on and stayed on :confused: probably explains the dead battery a few months back...

Now go find the posts with the special codes so you can get your Tranny temp!

awsumdc
10-27-2010, 08:05 AM
Dude! thats what I want is the tranny temp. Where is that post????:confused:


[QUOTE=awsumdc;2056991]
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/building%20the%20BEAST/DSC04537640x480.jpg

DUDE... watch out for the guy with the camera in your mirror! :eek:


:D


Keep an eye on the SG.... I don't DD my Tacoma, but have the SG hooked up all the time. I went out to the garage the other night and there was this glow coming from the truck... it was the SG; it had turned itself on and stayed on :confused: probably explains the dead battery a few months back...

Now go find the posts with the special codes so you can get your Tranny temp!

fire931
10-27-2010, 10:53 AM
did someone finally figure out how to get the tranny temp on there?? i know for a long time people were trying to get scan gauge to add one but never heard if it got done or not.....

Mr Tacomi
10-27-2010, 11:08 AM
[Search Nazi = ON]

Wyatt- Ya know..... blah...... blah..... blah "scangauge tranny temp" blah :eek: blah blah blah :rolleyes: blah blah blahblah :cool:

BLAH!

[/Search Nazi]
:D


or you could check this thread:

http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2008405#post2008405

I haven't sent my SG in for X-Gauge updates, but from reading a few different posts about the readings it seems that the jury would still be out as to whether this is completely accurate information... but definitely worth the test!

Hilux_MAX
02-21-2011, 10:06 PM
Well, after having to use the Beast as a daily driver since June now I just went out and measured again and I'm at 25" at the front part of the frame under the front door. I will drop it down another 1" to 11/2" in a couple of weeks but thats as low as I want to go. These things are too long to be any lower than that with the type of wheeling I do. 20" is way too low for me. Id be dragging everything on most of the trails I wheel on if I were that low. As mine sits now it is 3" wider than it is tall. I like that feeling.

Did you end up lowering the beast? and to counter act the belly dragging, couldnt you just fit taller tyres if you wanted to go lower?

awsumdc
02-23-2011, 05:38 PM
Did you end up lowering the beast? and to counter act the belly dragging, couldnt you just fit taller tyres if you wanted to go lower?

I lowered the rear a bit and now I'm going to do the front. Don't really need to put larger tires on it as it really doesn't drag on anything now except maybe the axle's but then those are on monster rocks. I really don't see the need to go any bigger than 40" tires as I still drive this thing on the streets.

ScottyC
03-19-2011, 08:21 AM
Dude! thats what I want is the tranny temp. Where is that post????:confused:


[QUOTE=Mr Tacomi;2057106]

Wyatt, I had a Tranny temp gauge prior to the SCII. What I found is that my tranny temp gauge ran a lot lower in temp than the SCII pulling the signal from inside the pan itself. Like 30* cooler.

I trust the SCII a lot more than the gauge, so the gauge is being pulled out this week for a A/F gauge instead.

awsumdc
03-19-2011, 10:31 AM
[QUOTE=awsumdc;2057232]Dude! thats what I want is the tranny temp. Where is that post????:confused:




Wyatt, I had a Tranny temp gauge prior to the SCII. What I found is that my tranny temp gauge ran a lot lower in temp than the SCII pulling the signal from inside the pan itself. Like 30* cooler.

I trust the SCII a lot more than the gauge, so the gauge is being pulled out this week for a A/F gauge instead.

Thanks Scotty,

Whats an A/F Gauge?

ScottyC
03-19-2011, 12:14 PM
[QUOTE=ScottyC;2134824]

Thanks Scotty,

Whats an A/F Gauge?

Air/Fuel ratio. I need one for my Supercharger.

awsumdc
03-19-2011, 07:51 PM
Well, i've been wanting to lower the front of this truck a bit more for awhile and this seemed like a good time to do it right before AZRocks. When you have a custom system like this it's hard to lower it when the spring are nearly at the top of the coilover. So I choose to add another rate to my current setup and make it a triple rate system. But really the triple rate is a misnomer because on this application the top spring is there only to hold some tension on the other two springs when you fully extend them out. They are completely compressed when the weight of the vehicle are on them.

So what did I do. I swapped the top 12" 300lb for a 10" 300lb spring and a tender coil. It dropped it down by about 1.5".

Here is where we started. As you can see on a slanted driveway the truck is level from front to rear so it is nose high.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/Triple%20rate%20springs/DSC00478640x480.jpg


This is the top portion of the new system that is going in. The lower silver spring is a 10" 300lb spring then you have the seperator and then the black spring is the tender spring which is at the very top.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/Triple%20rate%20springs/DSC00473640x480.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/Triple%20rate%20springs/DSC00474640x480.jpg

Here you can see the difference between the 12" spring and the 10" spring.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/Triple%20rate%20springs/DSC00476640x480.jpg


Here you see the springs back on the coilover with the coilover fully extended.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/Triple%20rate%20springs/DSC00477640x480.jpg

This is a picture if the springs with the weight of the truck on them. As you can see the top spring is fully compressed. It does not provide any spring rate at all.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/Triple%20rate%20springs/DSC00479640x480.jpg

And here the truck is with it's new springs on. Now is is nose down on this slanted drive way which makes it level on the street.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/awsumdc/Triple%20rate%20springs/DSC00475640x480.jpg

hytenor
03-19-2011, 08:26 PM
nice. so, what's the new frame height?

One of these days I'll probably swap out the WEs for some true dual-rate COs with beefier shafts :p

awsumdc
03-20-2011, 12:39 PM
nice. so, what's the new frame height?

One of these days I'll probably swap out the WEs for some true dual-rate COs with beefier shafts :p

Its now sitting at 25.25". Not bad for such a big truck sitting on 40's.