: scan tool recommendations


fjcruzer
02-09-2009, 11:33 PM
I've got a ScanGaugeII in the FJ, but it's hard-mounted and I want another that I can use on both the Yota and the Saab. I'm toying with upgrading the ScanGauge for the FJ and putting the older version in the Saab, but am also considering a portable tool for more diversity. Any recommendations?

fjcruzer
02-24-2009, 06:45 PM
WOW! This thread is really taking off :rolleyes:

mrdoug
02-24-2009, 07:14 PM
I got nothing for you, but saw the thread and was watching for the discussion.

Chalkie
02-24-2009, 07:58 PM
I have seen some good reviews on this one on other forums... actually maybe is was on the main TTORA forum.

http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=ACN&MfrPartNumber=CP9125&CategoryCode=3389

When you first posted this though, I was thinking to myself, how is it that you have your SG hard mounted, that you could not use it another vehicle. Mine is what I would call hard mounted, but if I were to get another cable from SG, I could hook it up to another vehicle without any real issues. The real issue is getting the stinking Velcro to let go to move it. :D

http://chalkcliffs.smugmug.com/photos/459066504_VvCdt-S.jpg

ike
02-24-2009, 07:59 PM
Dont know anything about them really other than that I want one.

RedRunnertc
02-24-2009, 10:45 PM
Sorry - my fingers were too busy :flipoff1: you OBDII guys to type an answer

ike
02-24-2009, 10:48 PM
:rofl:

When Ron dies, which Molly thinks will be soon, you can put a 3.4 in and have a scan tool like all of the cool kids.

RedRunnertc
02-24-2009, 10:49 PM
Stop jinxing me!

Lysmachia
02-24-2009, 10:51 PM
:rofl:

When Ron dies, which Molly thinks will be soon, you can put a 3.4 in and have a scan tool like all of the cool kids.

He is gonna kill all of us when his 3.0 blows!


Hey Eric, what is it that DonG has? He has something on his laptop and can scan any Toyota's after 1995?

ike
02-24-2009, 11:00 PM
Yeah, i know.

I am still tempted to get a Ron vodoo doll made though!

Lysmachia
02-24-2009, 11:53 PM
Yeah, i know.

I am still tempted to get a Ron vodoo doll made though!


Oh that would be histerical!

RedRunnertc
02-25-2009, 01:01 PM
Eric - can't you grab your cat by the tail and scan your car?

ike
02-25-2009, 01:37 PM
:confused:

fjcruzer
02-25-2009, 02:33 PM
I have seen some good reviews on this one on other forums... actually maybe is was on the main TTORA forum.

http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=ACN&MfrPartNumber=CP9125&CategoryCode=3389

When you first posted this though, I was thinking to myself, how is it that you have your SG hard mounted, that you could not use it another vehicle. Mine is what I would call hard mounted, but if I were to get another cable from SG, I could hook it up to another vehicle without any real issues. The real issue is getting the stinking Velcro to let go to move it. :D

http://chalkcliffs.smugmug.com/photos/459066504_VvCdt-S.jpg

"Hard-mounted" might be a misnomer, but it is bonded to the dash with 3M super-sticky stuff

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/fjcruzer123/scan%20gauge%20II/march12007.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/fjcruzer123/scan%20gauge%20II/march18051.jpg

I looked at a second cable, but then decided I didn't want to have to play the game.

I considered just buying the new upgraded one and putting the older one in the Saab, but they want $170 :eek: for it??!!

Hey Eric, what is it that DonG has? He has something on his laptop and can scan any Toyota's after 1995?

I'm still waiting to hear :)

Eric - can't you grab your cat by the tail and scan your car?

Um, you and Doug and his "fleshlight" need to talk... :jack:

:D

extremepaint
02-25-2009, 03:37 PM
i found a scale ron to use as a vodoo doll
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/jeepman1977/HPIM8333.jpg
oinly 825 bucks!

ike
02-25-2009, 03:41 PM
Except that one has a sas. I also need one that has a good way to get to the ignition module.

fjcruzer
02-25-2009, 03:42 PM
i found a scale ron to use as a vodoo doll
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t270/jeepman1977/HPIM8333.jpg
oinly 825 bucks!

I bet it gets killer gas mileage tho and you could tow it to the trail in a Yugo! I wonder if it's OBDII??

thefatkid
02-25-2009, 03:43 PM
Really you need to narrow down what you are looking for. Do you want a "code checker"? Would you want data list/stream? Would you like to see enhanced OBD2 data list?

What is your end usage/goals? How much do you want to spend?


I'd get somthing like this
http://www.autoenginuity.com/order.html

ike
02-25-2009, 03:49 PM
Damn, some of those get pricey.

fjcruzer
02-25-2009, 03:59 PM
Really you need to narrow down what you are looking for. Do you want a "code checker"? Would you want data list/stream? Would you like to see enhanced OBD2 data list?

What is your end usage/goals? How much do you want to spend?


I'd get somthing like this
http://www.autoenginuity.com/order.html

Thank you Brian,

I would like to be able to see the code, the definition and be able to clear it. I'd rather not have to drag around my laptop and I don't have a Palm/PocketPC. Something that would fit in the tool box and not too much money.

I'm not hip to the jargon, so please educate me:

"Code Checker"
Data list/stream
Enhanced OBDII
CAN

I looked at a CenTech at Harbor Freight that was $100, but they wouldn't let me take it out of the box and posted an armed guard next to me while I read the back of the box... :rolleyes:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=99722

extremepaint
02-25-2009, 04:00 PM
Damn, some of those get pricey.

its an old out of production body with good electronics and its all custom to boot. but still 800 is way out of wha ti would pay

ike
02-25-2009, 04:08 PM
was refering to the code readers.


Anyone have experience with the one from HF. I wonder how they hold up.

fjcruzer
02-25-2009, 04:25 PM
was refering to the code readers.


Anyone have experience with the one from HF. I wonder how they hold up.

Yeah, that's why I balked... I'm curious to know as well.

RedRunnertc
02-25-2009, 04:48 PM
Eric - can't you grab your cat by the tail and scan your car?

Give your car a CAT scan? Wow, never thought MY humor would be too subtle...

Um, you and Doug and his "fleshlight" need to talk... :jack:

With all the cats Doug has, he could qualify as a medical center...

fjcruzer
02-25-2009, 04:51 PM
Give your car a CAT scan? Wow, never thought MY humor would be too subtle...

:rofl: ... wait, I can't believe I'm laughing at this... :doh:

You no our cat, can you imagine what would happen if I grabbed her by the tail??? :eek::explode:

thefatkid
02-25-2009, 04:54 PM
I'd just get this, a "code reader" with no special skills.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94169

The other words like CAN (controller area network) are for more advanced functions. If you only looking to check codes and clear you don't need and CAN, enhanced OBD, or data list.

data list, if it is Enhanced OBD toyota specific will give you all the sensor readings and calculated readings used for diagnosis. If you know what all those number mean it could be helpfull.

enhanced OBD is just more code definitions and extended user data.

fjcruzer
02-25-2009, 04:58 PM
I'd just get this, a "code reader" with no special skills.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94169

The other words like CAN (controller area network) are for more advanced functions. If you only looking to check codes and clear you don't need and CAN, enhanced OBD, or data list.

data list, if it is Enhanced OBD toyota specific will give you all the sensor readings and calculated readings used for diagnosis. If you know what all those number mean it could be helpfull.

enhanced OBD is just more code definitions and extended user data.

Alrighty then! Thank you for clarifying for me.

Sucka
02-26-2009, 06:18 PM
Those Scangauge II's look pretty damn cool, just watched a video showing some of the functions. Is it worth the ~$160 or just more of a gimmick type deal? Do they only sell them online or can you buy locally?

fjcruzer
02-26-2009, 06:32 PM
Those Scangauge II's look pretty damn cool, just watched a video showing some of the functions. Is it worth the ~$160 or just more of a gimmick type deal? Do they only sell them online or can you buy locally?

When I bought mine I had the money to burn, so it was cool. I would like some of the added functionality with the upgraded model, but I'm not willing to pony up the $170 again and I'm too lazy to send mine in to be re-flashed.

I primarily use mine to gauge fuel economy (when you see that you're getting 1.5mpg when you stand on it, you don't...) and it helped debunk the CAI myth. If you're a geek and like to see info that is interesting to note while you're driving and might be helpful in diagnosing a problem, you'll like it. My favorite thing is the scantool function and the ability to clear and store codes for little stuff so you don't have to worry that the check engine light isn't just a bad O2 sensor reading versus a major engine failure...

Sucka
02-26-2009, 06:41 PM
I am pretty geeky in that sense.....lol

So there are 2 versions of the Scanguage II, or is it just the firmware?

Who has the newest ones and the best prices? Something i might consider down the road when i have some spare cash.

Thanks for the info.

fjcruzer
02-26-2009, 06:43 PM
I am pretty geeky in that sense.....lol

So there are 2 versions of the Scanguage II, or is it just the firmware?

Who has the newest ones and the best prices? Something i might consider down the road when i have some spare cash.

Thanks for the info.

Just the one version. I could get the firmware upgraded for like $30 and shipping, but I'm lazy!

I believe there is only the one online source, but have seen the occasional group buy through the blue room.

Chalkie
02-26-2009, 07:32 PM
Those Scangauge II's look pretty damn cool, just watched a video showing some of the functions. Is it worth the ~$160 or just more of a gimmick type deal? Do they only sell them online or can you buy locally?

Who has the newest ones and the best prices? Something i might consider down the road when i have some spare cash.


No, no gimmick. It will tell you all kinds of things about your truck on a real time basis. Is it worth it? I think so. If nothing else, keeping up a display of my Average Fuel Economy in real time, make me keep an eye on how I am driving. In addition to all the other stuff it does, it will read codes, if you throw one, and also lets you clear them.

As to prices and where, I have never seen them in a store. The two main places to get them are here for 169.95

http://www.scangauge.com/

Or here for 189.95 with mounting kit for above the mirror (which is what I have).

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=mgt&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=882137477&Count2=799277901&CategoryID=109&Target=products.asp

The owner of the first link above is a vendor on TN (called 3n1 (go figure :) )) and he occassionally does group buys on them.

The one disappointment I have with mine is that after 2 years they have not figured out an xguage code so you can get your tranny temp.

Sucka
02-26-2009, 07:40 PM
http://www.amazon.com/ScanGauge-Compact-Multifunction-Computer-Customizable/dp/B000AAMY86/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1235622925&sr=8-1

Is that the latest model? $160 with free shipping, and it's Amazon, great service. There's a bunch on Ebay, but i'm always leary of Ebay.

fjcruzer
02-26-2009, 07:43 PM
http://www.amazon.com/ScanGauge-Compact-Multifunction-Computer-Customizable/dp/B000AAMY86/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1235622925&sr=8-1

Is that the latest model? $160 with free shipping, and it's Amazon, great service. There's a bunch on Ebay, but i'm always leary of Ebay.

Looks like it. Good find! I hate eBay.

RedRunnertc
02-26-2009, 09:14 PM
it helped debunk the CAI myth.

How's that?

Chalkie
02-26-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm going to take a guess. One of the readouts you can program is for Horsepower and then, of course, Fuel Economy. CAI does not really make a difference to either.

fjcruzer
02-26-2009, 11:46 PM
How's that?

I'm going to take a guess. One of the readouts you can program is for Horsepower and then, of course, Fuel Economy. CAI does not really make a difference to either.

Unfortunately mine does not have the firmware to calculate HP, but more to the point the aftermarket CAIs claim to dramatically reduce intake air temps, which is supposed to be the rationale behind better combustion, acceleration (HP) and fuel economy. The after market CAI I had dropped intake air temps by maybe 1-2 degrees and made zero difference in fuel economy. It made the motor resonance louder and offered some psychological "seat of the pants" acceleration. Intake temps were 12-15 degrees over ambient with the OEM, they dropped to 10-15 over ambient with the CAI. When I put the snorkel on with the OEM intake, intake temps dropped to 1-2 degrees over ambient, so perhaps a true "cold-air intake." :2cents:

I'm sure there are lots of other ways I could use the scangauge, but I;m only an amateur geek :D

motochain
02-28-2009, 04:56 PM
I bought mine (scangauge II) a few months ago from the group buy on the main board, when I called the guy (Joey) he actually had to think for a second to remember there was a groupbuy. I think it started in '07.. hahaha

1-888-433-5664 ask for Joey and your calling about the scanguage II groupbuy and your a part of parksoffroad. . I got it for $149.95 shipped.



There's always this one:

http://www.amazon.com/DashDAQ-OBD-CarPC-Performance-Gauges-Logger/dp/B001MQ029U/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1235861566&sr=8-3

or.....

http://www.amazon.com/PLX-Kiwi-Scanner-Saving-Device/dp/B001F05WIE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_10?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1235861566&sr=8-10