old truck

[gittinit]

So, Stacy, what do you think so far?
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/krackeroldtruck014.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/krackeroldtruck008.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/krackeroldtruck007.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/krackeroldtruck005.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/krackeroldtruck004.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/krackeroldtruck003.jpg

[gittinit]

Do you like? its just tacked together, right now is the time to change stuff if you want.


What do yall other ttora members think?

[YotaJosh]

Nice! Stacey's gonna be wheelin' hard now.

[colsoncj]

i likey!!

sorry to hijack, but what kind of bender are you using, and what kind of tube is that?

[gittinit]

i likey!!

sorry to hijack, but what kind of bender are you using, and what kind of tube is that?

JDmodel2 from vansant enterprise, and 1 3/4 weld seam 1/8 wall tube.

[gittinit]

Well there arent any comments about it so far so I'll point it out to yall. The upper tube that goes over the winch....Is it a little short? It is as tall as the top of the grill, and it can't be seen from the cab. There is also going to be some fender protection. The fender protection will likely be taller than the canter hoop. Stacy said he really didn't like stingers, but it just seems a lil low still. I also trimmed the grill even though he didn't want it trimed. I think he's gonna like it though, espically after he hits some trails, and realizes how good of an approach angle he wound up with. :confused:

[andrewmch]

It looks kinda like a mouth thats open and down /\ Need to weld some teeth in there or some fangs make it look mean! lol. I like it tho. What would you charge for some sliders? I could make some of my own but they would be crude and no bends... 45's and 90's lol

[domino]

Well there arent any comments about it so far so I'll point it out to yall. The upper tube that goes over the winch....Is it a little short? It is as tall as the top of the grill, and it can't be seen from the cab. There is also going to be some fender protection. The fender protection will likely be taller than the canter hoop. Stacy said he really didn't like stingers, but it just seems a lil low still. I also trimmed the grill even though he didn't want it trimed. I think he's gonna like it though, espically after he hits some trails, and realizes how good of an approach angle he wound up with. :confused:

Personally, I think I'd like the stinger to be just visible over the hood, but it looks good as is. Will it look funny having the fender protection taller than that hoop? Overall, it looks like dang good work. I just may have to come visit you for some cage work someday in the future...

[gittinit]

It looks kinda like a mouth thats open and down /\ Need to weld some teeth in there or some fangs make it look mean! lol. I like it tho. What would you charge for some sliders? I could make some of my own but they would be crude and no bends... 45's and 90's lol

$75 plus tube sound ok to you? If you come get them I'll install em otherwise we can work out arrangements somehow, but I'd rather not ship. Shipping oversized packages is just to much trouble 4 me.

[gittinit]

Personally, I think I'd like the stinger to be just visible over the hood, but it looks good as is. Will it look funny having the fender protection taller than that hoop? Overall, it looks like dang good work. I just may have to come visit you for some cage work someday in the future...

Look at my bumper in the background. The fender protection is taller than the winch guard hoop.

[andrewmch]

Whats tube run for a set? And im sure we could ship it somehow on the ARTTORA express!!! Ill have to see how my funds hold out. I still havent gotten her outa the barn yet!

[gittinit]

Whats tube run for a set? And im sure we could ship it somehow on the ARTTORA express!!! Ill have to see how my funds hold out. I still havent gotten her outa the barn yet!

Its 30 to 35$ for a stick 21 ft long. How much you need depends on the desighn you desire,and the wheelbase, but roughly 28ft-42ft of tube.

[Jordan7118]

That's it, I'm coming to see you, Michael! That looks darn good! I'm tired of not having sliders and protection. I"M ON MY WAY!!!! ( I wish... )

Seriously, looks awesome! Nice and simple yet defined. Winch is nice and tucked in there. I'd love to hit some rocks with all that tube.

NICE!!! Faber Enterprises has begun!!! :cool:

[gittinit]

That's it, I'm coming to see you, Michael! That looks darn good! I'm tired of not having sliders and protection. I"M ON MY WAY!!!! ( I wish... )

Seriously, looks awesome! Nice and simple yet defined. Winch is nice and tucked in there. I'd love to hit some rocks with all that tube.

NICE!!! Faber Enterprises has begun!!! :cool:

Actually its Faber4x4Fabrication, but its just a dream till my wife gets out of college and starts suporting me. :D

[Jordan7118]

Actually its Faber4x4Fabrication, but its just a dream till my wife gets out of college and starts suporting me. :D

Keep the dream alive!!!

If I brought my turd runner to your house and left it there while I'm in Belize (5 weeks or so) would that give you time to play with it? I'll be gone mid-May to mid-June. I'll even leave the keys to you can wheel it :D LMK if that's a possibility, as I'm not sure I'll be able to get over there before that.

[Jordan7118]

And how is the winch mounted? I like how high and tucked in it is.

[OldTruck]

Wow, one post at 8:20 & tube work is rocking. I like having comments on the project to read through before making up my mind what I like!!!

Seriously, I believe Faber 4x4 Fabrication is kickin' it in that A$$.

I like the up-swept corner look on the fender / grill blend & I like the "grimace" look of the "mouth". Top hoop could be taller, but I'm not tall & don't want anything that hinders vision or access to engine bay. I really like the look of the sliders . . . tucked for rocker protection w/ some wheel still outside for sliding toward. I like the direction this is going. It's gonna' be cool to watch the next section progress. That corner is gonna' be where the artist comes out of ole' mikey

The tube is HREW 1.75" OD w/ 0.125" wall.

Things I should have done before "commissioning" the project:
1. Wash the truck
2. Fix the headlight mountings
3. Made Michael sign a secrecy agreement b4 releasing pre-production photos. . . HA

I'm stoked at getting this done!
OldTruck

[colsoncj]

thanks guys... im startin some fab work for my cruiser and just was curious...

and definately looking good.... is there going to be anymore added protection for the winch?

[OldTruck]

cory,
I got no idea what Michael is gonna' do next. Vertical bars for fairlead mount? Or not vertical . . . Skid plate in bottom hoop?
Obviously, winch is just sitting on jack stand now. Mounting appears yet to be finalized.
So many options.

[wanabecruisen]

Very nice Michael. Ya wanna do a bumper for my fj80? Seriously, some nice work there and I was about to spend some $$ on one of these:

I'd like to get your opinion on some changes to this design though - let me know if you are interested!

[gittinit]

Keep the dream alive!!!

If I brought my turd runner to your house and left it there while I'm in Belize (5 weeks or so) would that give you time to play with it? I'll be gone mid-May to mid-June. I'll even leave the keys to you can wheel it :D LMK if that's a possibility, as I'm not sure I'll be able to get over there before that.

That sounds like a great idea. I definately like some freedom, of design, and plenty of time to just sit and stare at it till something comes to mind.

The winch is just sitting there to show how I trimed the grill to fit. I'm not shure yet how the winch mount is gonna work out, but I'm thinking tieing it and another frame attachment point together. I still have the roller fairlead, to mount as well, and I'm going to tuck it as close to the winch as possible, while trying to keep it low profile.

[gittinit]

Wow, one post at 8:20 & tube work is rocking. I like having comments on the project to read through before making up my mind what I like!!!

Seriously, I believe Faber 4x4 Fabrication is kickin' it in that A$$.

I like the up-swept corner look on the fender / grill blend & I like the "grimace" look of the "mouth". Top hoop could be taller, but I'm not tall & don't want anything that hinders vision or access to engine bay. I really like the look of the sliders . . . tucked for rocker protection w/ some wheel still outside for sliding toward. I like the direction this is going. It's gonna' be cool to watch the next section progress. That corner is gonna' be where the artist comes out of ole' mikey

The tube is HREW 1.75" OD w/ 0.125" wall.

Things I should have done before "commissioning" the project:
1. Wash the truck
2. Fix the headlight mountings
3. Made Michael sign a secrecy agreement b4 releasing pre-production photos. . . HA
I'm stoked at getting this done!
OldTruck

OOPS! Well I guess I did have to get someones point of view, after all I told you, "you won't be disapointed". With our buisy lifes this seemed the easiest way to get your opinions. I think i will make a bend or 2 in the corners and see if I can better picture the flow as it would tie into the exhisting top hoop. I'm second guessing it couse in my opinion its a lil short. Now that I know you feel the same way it will be easier to justify bending up a new top hoop.

[gittinit]

Very nice Michael. Ya wanna do a bumper for my fj80? Seriously, some nice work there and I was about to spend some $$ on one of these:

I'd like to get your opinion on some changes to this design though - let me know if you are interested!

Yes I'm interested. A fj80 huh, that would be my 1st one of them. Let me know when you want to do it and we'll work something out. Heck ya might could just drive up on a saturday, and hang for a day or something, and go home with a bumper. I can save ya alot of coin over what one of them cost, and get you the changes you want.

[Jordan7118]

That sounds like a great idea. I definately like some freedom, of design, and plenty of time to just sit and stare at it till something comes to mind.


Not to be too picky, but I'd like a few ideas incorporate if you don't mind. I'll buy ALL materials and we'll work out what you'd need beyond that. Plus, I'd like you to come up with a sweet something (stencil, shirt, I dunno...) for Faber4x4Fab so I can represent hardcore.

I'll start finding stuff I like to bring you when Snoopy comes. I'll be in touch. I'm pretty effin' excited! Woot!

[gittinit]

Not to be too picky, but I'd like a few ideas incorporate if you don't mind. I'll buy ALL materials and we'll work out what you'd need beyond that. Plus, I'd like you to come up with a sweet something (stencil, shirt, I dunno...) for Faber4x4Fab so I can represent hardcore.

I'll start finding stuff I like to bring you when Snoopy comes. I'll be in touch. I'm pretty effin' excited! Woot!

Above all you have to be happy with what u get so some guidlines are nessicarry. Heck thats what this post is all about. I started it to get input from Stacy about his truck and what he wants.

[Jordan7118]

Above all you have to be happy with what u get so some guidlines are nessicarry. Heck thats what this post is all about. I started it to get input from Stacy about his truck and what he wants.

K. Well, I want you to have a good time with my tube work, too :D

Did you not want kickouts on your sliders, Stacy? Also, they look a little narrow. Do yours jut out more, Michael? I have a feeling I'd like to be able to pivot like a top on my sliders. That's where you come into play, Michael, cuz you actually wheel. I'm almost back to web-wheeling these days :D

I miss your musk. Faber4x4Fabrication 4 LIFE!!!! Woot!

Now, I've gotta go to class... Eff my life.. :lmao:

[gittinit]

K. Well, I want you to have a good time with my tube work, too :D

Did you not want kickouts on your sliders, Stacy? Also, they look a little narrow. Do yours jut out more, Michael? I have a feeling I'd like to be able to pivot like a top on my sliders. That's where you come into play, Michael, cuz you actually wheel. I'm almost back to web-wheeling these days :D

I miss your musk. Faber4x4Fabrication 4 LIFE!!!! Woot!

Now, I've gotta go to class... Eff my life.. :lmao:

Stacy was up in the air on the kickouts, but was worried about hanging on them. The sliders stick out about 2 inches past the body, so they are about right. My sliders are even with the body, other than the kickouts, and I have gone through 3 sets of doors counting my current ones. Judging by what I saw at hotsprings you actually wheel too, Jordan.

MUSK? WTF? :xrainbow:

[gittinit]

I cut down the old upper tube and notched it to fit from one corner bar to the other and also to use as a winch mount. The winch bolt holes sit just over each tube so I cut holes through and sleeved the tube, got longer bolts and bolted the winch in tight. Stacy it is a good theft prevenative, but it will be nessicary to remove the grill in order to remove the winch. I went ahead and painted the winch mount before bolting it down so that you wont have to mess with the winch, other than taping it off. I am assuming you wanted black on your bumper. Some color might look nice.

Here u can barely make out the old upper tube. Also notice my version of a low profile roller fairlead mount . I tied it to the winch plate and at an angle accross the tube to keep it strong.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck003-1.jpg

Here are the mounting bolts and the brace that I tied to the top and front of the crosmember. This little extra support will help alot if he were ever in an accident, or just hit a tree nice and square.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck002.jpg

Then it was time for the new upper hoop. You can just make it out from the drivers seat, and it dosent block the view of the road.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck008.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck006.jpg

The window is a bit dusty from the metal dust and welding, sorry for the bad pic.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck004.jpg

[colsoncj]

I'm really beginning to wish you were closer... i'm going to need some exo work before long and I'd like to have someone like you around....

[79coyotefrg]

looks damn good :thumbs:

hey when do i get my Faber4x4Fabrication sticker :dunno:

[gittinit]

I'm really beginning to wish you were closer... i'm going to need some exo work before long and I'd like to have someone like you around....

If you want to make the trip over my way I have an extra bedroom.

[gittinit]

looks damn good :thumbs:

hey when do i get my Faber4x4Fabrication sticker :dunno:

I need to get more made up soon. I stuck the last one on my shop door. I'll check into getting more this week, if I can rember.

[colsoncj]

That may be a plan. I've got to put the body lift on, fab the sliders, and weld up the rear bumper first... soon as all thats done, we may have to start talkin...

can you bend .120 wall DOM?

[gittinit]

That may be a plan. I've got to put the body lift on, fab the sliders, and weld up the rear bumper first... soon as all thats done, we may have to start talkin...

can you bend .120 wall DOM?

Yea but I don't recomend buying it unless your building a roll cage. Dom Just isnt worth the extra $ imo.

[gittinit]

I got started on the fender protection today. Its just tacked in place. I still have work to do on the passenger side. It dosent fit like I want. I got the drivers side sitting tight to the body.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck013.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck016.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck015.jpg
I also need to add these braces. But I havent decided which way to put the bend yet, up, or down. I kinda like them bend down.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck012.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/helping%20out/oldtruck011.jpg
Stacy, I need to know if your gonna bring up the d-rings. I want to start on the skid plate, but I don't want it to interfear with the winch points. If all goes well and I get out to the shop atleast one day this week I can have it ready friday afternoon. Give me a call one afternoon this week if u see this.

[Jordan7118]

Dude, you're gonna have to stop posting here. You're really about to start racking up the business and put my prices way up there. I need to send you a contract and lock in a price now! :D

I REALLY REALLY love this bumper! The way you tied in the winch is awesome! It's just really clean lines. I would probably want a copy of this bumper. I'm thinking I want different fender lines, though. I'll converse with you about that.

So, are you serious about me bringing my junk to stay with you for about 6 weeks? I am. Just PM me and we'll work it out.


Stacy was up in the air on the kickouts, but was worried about hanging on them. The sliders stick out about 2 inches past the body, so they are about right. My sliders are even with the body, other than the kickouts, and I have gone through 3 sets of doors counting my current ones. Judging by what I saw at hotsprings you actually wheel too, Jordan.

MUSK? WTF? :xrainbow:

Yea, I do actually wheel, but let's keep that our little secret, shall we? ;)

I guess I got carried away with the musk comment. It's from a movie. Sounds a little gay, but meant to be funny. I forgot you're a homophobe on the net and a gay in real life :lmao:

Man, bumper looks smokin'!!!

[OldTruck]

The progress looks great. I like the winch location / tie-in. I like bend down on the brace. Fender protection is gonna' be cool line. I'll get D-rings up there in next couple of days.
This is gonna' be a very cool upgrade!!
sab

[midd]

lookin good. when yall get ready to take ur ifs rigs out and play give me a holler.

[gittinit]

Hey Mike :) Its been a while I almost thought you were out of the game. Did you ever get your Heep going?
lookin good. when yall get ready to take ur ifs rigs out and play give me a holler.

[gittinit]

The progress looks great. I like the winch location / tie-in. I like bend down on the brace. Fender protection is gonna' be cool line. I'll get D-rings up there in next couple of days.
This is gonna' be a very cool upgrade!!
sab

I'm glad your getting excited about it. See ya this week.

[midd]

yeah, just gotta put the locker in. got about 8 more payments and i can cut on my tacoma.

[gittinit]

Its all welded up in the front. I had to get it out of the shop and do some clean up. I was going crazy triping over stuff, I had drug out.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/oldtruck017.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/oldtruck019.jpg
Ofcourse my dog had to get in the pic. She is a glamor queen, camera hog.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/oldtruck020.jpg
It seems as though she was trying to get recognition for all her hard work on this thing.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/oldtruck021.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/oldtruck025.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/oldtruck024.jpg

I still need paint, and I need to figure out where to weld up the tow points to the rear bumper. I also have to get a couple big hose clamps to mount the winch controll box, but its pretty well done.

[79coyotefrg]

hey those look neeto dude, i like that look if i had those put on then i could fab a step to hang off those in the event i needed to work on the engine

[gittinit]

hey those look neeto dude, i like that look if i had those put on then i could fab a step to hang off those in the event i needed to work on the engine

Thats true, but I'd rather have a step to hang on a tire. Make it adjustable for multiple trucks.

[OldTruck]

Michael,
Looks great. I really like the way this turned out. Good job.
I'll get some paint up there ASAP or just pick up some flat black & I'll pay you back. I think black will be the best choice. A flashy yellow or even chrome would stand out, but then I'd be concerned over scrubbing it off . . . na. Either way, black is the way to go.
sab

[gittinit]

Michael,
Looks great. I really like the way this turned out. Good job.
I'll get some paint up there ASAP or just pick up some flat black & I'll pay you back. I think black will be the best choice. A flashy yellow or even chrome would stand out, but then I'd be concerned over scrubbing it off . . . na. Either way, black is the way to go.
sab

I was thinking that too. Black is so easy, and hides most flas. I could get some, and some hose clamps and have it ready for you. When you coming to get it? Mike is considering going out to relive some stress tomarrow. Do ya want to come?

Oh yea I like your winch its suprisingly fast.

[YotaJosh]

Lookin' good. :cool:

You should paint it gold. :lmao:

[79coyotefrg]

Thats true, but I'd rather have a step to hang on a tire. Make it adjustable for multiple trucks.

thats a good point

[gittinit]

Lookin' good. :cool:

You should paint it gold. :lmao:

Gold like my teef yo! Gotta represent yo, its the grilz that get the hos! :cool:

[OldTruck]

Dude,
First, I ain't got no grill no mow . . . 'member you trimpt it.
Second, I'm thinking I will come get the truck tomorrow (Wed.) late afternoon.

And finally, what low-buck options are available if I want to swap out the factory air filter ? Please don't shoot me one some kinda' Summitt Racing swaps for $450.

thax in advance

[79coyotefrg]

is it a weber ?? not sure whats available for the stock carb

[gittinit]

Dude,
First, I ain't got no grill no mow . . . 'member you trimpt it.
Second, I'm thinking I will come get the truck tomorrow (Wed.) late afternoon.

And finally, what low-buck options are available if I want to swap out the factory air filter ? Please don't shoot me one some kinda' Summitt Racing swaps for $450.

thax in advance

its a stock carb.

A factory replacement filter is like 10 or 15 bucks, I'd just stick with that. If you want i'm shure you can get a k&n to fit in your factory breather. You can also buy an aftermarket breather that fits holly, and eldenbrock carbs and some how modify the porton that fits to the carb.

[YotaJosh]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/gittinit/oldtruck019.jpg


To me, the side bar kinda resembles a FJ60 fender line.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8226/rackshots004pun8.jpg

[OldTruck]

Thatz a cool comparison.
I'd not thought about that, guess the front fender lines are similar. Michael tells me he was using the PU truck fender lines to flow with the tube. Maybe Toyota designers were designing both vehicles at once?

side note: didn't get pick up the truck, had to work...still anxious about finishing the front clip details.

[gittinit]

Thatz a cool comparison.
I'd not thought about that, guess the front fender lines are similar. Michael tells me he was using the PU truck fender lines to flow with the tube. Maybe Toyota designers were designing both vehicles at once?

side note: didn't get pick up the truck, had to work...still anxious about finishing the front clip details.

Still needs blinkers! what else do ya have in mind?





Oh yea the air filter. Duh!

[OldTruck]

yea blinkers & markers, but I want to clean up all the stock bumper bracing. air filter questions center around putting on hand throttle cable, since I'm gonna' have all the stock filter off / out of the way. . .

[gittinit]

yea blinkers & markers, but I want to clean up all the stock bumper bracing. air filter questions center around putting on hand throttle cable, since I'm gonna' have all the stock filter off / out of the way. . .

There arent any stock bumper braces left. Those 2 little tabs on the front crosmember were the 1st things to go. I would have cut off the little corner things and all that but I wanted to kick around a few different options for ya. No big deal....do ya need to borrow a sawzall? If you want to pay me back for the paint and clamps and stuff, just put it in the Kracker's glove box, otherwise I'll catch ya later. Bo is wanting to wheel sunday. You should bring it up and play, before work gets too out of hand.