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HillBilly_Young01
10-07-2009, 11:16 AM
1985 grand waggy dana 44 wide track.

when i got it home
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/Image036.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/100_3810.jpg

didnt go in to work today so sent some time cleaning it and taking stuff off it
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/100_3815.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/100_3816.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/100_3818.jpg

plans are to do a mild build on it with flat tops, hi-steer, 4.56 gears, locker, warn hubs, and what ever else i can do to it.

its going to eventually go under the double cab once i get it all ready :D

link817
10-07-2009, 05:34 PM
good deal man. i'm planning on cutting next month.

TRoss
10-07-2009, 07:06 PM
but.... it's a pre-runner. :p

Cool beans, can't wait to see'er all done.

ATLRoach
10-08-2009, 08:03 AM
Awesome. Honestly sell the D44 and save some extra cash. Buy a set of 1 1/4 ton axles (KP D60 and FF14B) off a CUCV. It will help you if you ever go bigger than a 38 which more than likely will. You can sell your rear axle too for about 1.2k and recoupe most the extra cost.

Think about this:
Axles: 1200-1800 for the pair of CUCV axles
Tubes swapped: $200
U joints: $390
Steering: $400
Gears: $1000
Locker: $400 (CUCV come with a rear locker)

HillBilly_Young01
10-08-2009, 02:03 PM
Awesome. Honestly sell the D44 and save some extra cash. Buy a set of 1 1/4 ton axles (KP D60 and FF14B) off a CUCV. It will help you if you ever go bigger than a 38 which more than likely will. You can sell your rear axle too for about 1.2k and recoupe most the extra cost.

Think about this:
Axles: 1200-1800 for the pair of CUCV axles
Tubes swapped: $200
U joints: $390
Steering: $400
Gears: $1000
Locker: $400 (CUCV come with a rear locker)

hmmmm kinda tempting actually... where can i find those CUCV axles at?

ATLRoach
10-08-2009, 06:05 PM
Pirate, Southern Jeeps, NC4x4 and Tennessee Offroad. If you watch you can grab them for 1k-1.2k

Set in Decatur,AL for $1250
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=818154&highlight=cucv

HillBilly_Young01
10-10-2009, 02:01 PM
well some progress made today for the most part......

spent my morning stripping the remaining rust off the housing and grinding everything down smooth.... got bored so i repainted it. i need to run to the parts store and get a socket to get the bolt out that keeps the shafts in the spindles (do any stores rent them instead of me having to buy it?)

well progress pics
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/100_0172.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/100_0171.jpg

i know im probably going to catch some heat for it but im going to keep the diff silver and the flat tops as well..... might look kinda cool i think since my truck is silver :cool:.

im going to go junk yard hopping this weekend to find me a set of flat tops. all the yards around here are hard core chevy so im feeling pretty good about it.

04tacodrvr
10-10-2009, 02:42 PM
i think i have the socket you need. let me check my tools. i might have let it go when i sold my waggy.

-Daniel

HillBilly_Young01
10-10-2009, 02:43 PM
i think i have the socket you need. let me check my tools. i might have let it go when i sold my waggy.

-Daniel

let me know man! i can run over to your house tomorrow and get it if need be

yotaman
10-10-2009, 03:29 PM
Good luck man. I'd keep the truck IFS if it was me. :D

HillBilly_Young01
10-10-2009, 03:33 PM
Good luck man. I'd keep the truck IFS if it was me. :D

hahaha, why do you say that?

yotaman
10-10-2009, 03:45 PM
Just saying man. I wish I could snap my fingers and my Tacoma would have IFS again. LOL!

HillBilly_Young01
10-10-2009, 03:59 PM
what year chevy flat tops do i need to look for again?

HillBilly_Young01
10-10-2009, 06:33 PM
got bored so i started to tear the axle down

i drained the diff
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/001.jpg

yummy :barf:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/002.jpg

now here is my question... how the hell do i get that bottom bolt off the knuckle?
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/tear%20down/003.jpg

now its onto wild bills to go to a luke bryan concert :D call me if you want to meet up there

Phil88
10-11-2009, 08:32 AM
Ya gota take the shaft out

HillBilly_Young01
10-11-2009, 09:53 AM
Ya gota take the shaft out

newb question but... how do i get that shaft out?

yotaman
10-11-2009, 09:59 AM
I don't know shit about Dana crap but maybe there is a spindle bolted to the knuckle. Take the spindle off then the shaft comes out.

HillBilly_Young01
10-11-2009, 10:01 AM
I don't know shit about Dana crap but maybe there is a spindle bolted to the knuckle. Take the spindle off then the shaft comes out.

it looked to me like the spindle was put into the knuckle from inside to out (from u-joint side)

yotaman
10-11-2009, 10:04 AM
hmmmmmm...... I don't know.

That's why you use Toyota stuff on a Toyota. Those japs use logic when building things. LOL!!! :flipoff4:

I guess you'll just have to wait for an experienced Dana guy. :D

HillBilly_Young01
10-11-2009, 10:09 AM
hmmmmmm...... I don't know.

That's why you use Toyota stuff on a Toyota. Those japs use logic when building things. LOL!!! :flipoff4:

I guess you'll just have to wait for an experienced Dana guy. :D

yeah im thinking i might wait for some one who knows more than me (not really that hard :rolleyes:). beats the alternative of just hitting it with a bfh till something happens

STOMPER
10-11-2009, 11:19 AM
Spindle bolts to the knuckle then the shafts come out. But ya gotta take the Hubs and rotors off first.


http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Dana44.htm

HillBilly_Young01
10-11-2009, 12:22 PM
i just hit the spindle with my dead blow hammer and a block of wood till they came off and got the shafts out that way :D . thanks to bentley for the heads up on that

misterzee
10-11-2009, 02:29 PM
Just saying man. I wish I could snap my fingers and my Tacoma would have IFS again. LOL!

'creates a new never-ending can O worms... be ready to tinker...

yotaman
10-11-2009, 02:46 PM
'creates a new never-ending can O worms... be ready to tinker...Cha-ching!!! That's one good reason.

crolison
10-11-2009, 03:04 PM
Cha-ching!!! That's one good reason.

Haha, I already tinker with my ifs all the time

yotaman
10-11-2009, 04:24 PM
Haha, I already tinker with my ifs all the timeWe have to give him a hard time. :D

crolison
10-11-2009, 07:36 PM
We have to give him a hard time. :D

His gf sitting on him is hard enough!!!!!

HillBilly_Young01
10-11-2009, 07:58 PM
His gf sitting on him is hard enough!!!!!

naw still single... heck right now id welcome a fat chick to come sit on me. your mom available?

gregers05
10-11-2009, 10:56 PM
naw still single... heck right now id welcome a fat chick to come sit on me. your mom available?


nah i got her this week

misterzee
10-12-2009, 05:39 AM
Haha, I already tinker with my ifs all the time

I was always told that would make me go blind.....:p

HillBilly_Young01
10-12-2009, 06:17 AM
nah i got her this week

we can share cant we?

Nobody16
11-05-2009, 08:42 PM
Any updates?

HillBilly_Young01
11-06-2009, 07:27 AM
no :(... life got in the way and i had to loan my parents some money

bad_karma_actual
11-22-2009, 03:27 AM
did you ever find out what year chevy flat tops would work on the waggy axle??

HillBilly_Young01
11-22-2009, 01:39 PM
did you ever find out what year chevy flat tops would work on the waggy axle??

any year chevy 44 or 10-bolt for the driver's side and they are already machined for the steering arm.

however, they quit making the flat top passenger's side chevy/jeep 44 knuckles around '76 or so.......

Derka
11-22-2009, 09:40 PM
http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/flatop_knucles.html <---Everything you ever wanted to know about flat top knuckles.

silver98Z71
11-25-2009, 08:24 PM
http://wfoconcepts.com/Steering/Dana44/nc_flattop.html My :2cents:

HillBilly_Young01
11-26-2009, 09:38 AM
http://wfoconcepts.com/Steering/Dana44/nc_flattop.html My :2cents:

good find buddy!

silver98Z71
11-26-2009, 02:54 PM
If I were to go back again and search for flattops (if I planned on hy-steer like you are sir) I would most deffinatly get the WFO pieces.

HillBilly_Young01
01-14-2010, 03:48 PM
YAY UPDATES!!!!!:D


Ruff Stuff Diff Cover
Chevy Flat Tops
High Steer Keys


http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/half%20way/100_3883.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/half%20way/100_3886.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/half%20way/100_3887.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/half%20way/100_3884.jpg

Nobody16
01-14-2010, 05:37 PM
Wow! Looks great compared to what it was in the beginning. Now get back to working on it!;)

gregers05
01-14-2010, 07:06 PM
Wow! Looks great compared to what it was in the beginning. Now get back to working on it!;)

x2 you can start working on my d60 after your done with that one

benny_wiskas
01-14-2010, 08:59 PM
glad you finally found some satisfactory grey paint...

Phil88
01-15-2010, 06:58 AM
Looking good,, i want that diff cover:cool: .... be on the lookout for some spacers for those flattops, If your going leafs your probly gonna needem.

HillBilly_Young01
01-15-2010, 07:23 AM
Looking good,, i want that diff cover:cool: .... be on the lookout for some spacers for those flattops, If your going leafs your probly gonna needem.

spacers?

Phil88
01-15-2010, 08:01 AM
spacers?

that go inbetween the knuckle and flat arm, You may or maynot need them,just depends on what kind of springs u run,how tall your perchs are and how much droop you want. What happens is if that tierod isnt high enough it will hit the springs when drooping.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s80/tadsal/ttsfabworks/Steering/CrossOver1.jpg

HillBilly_Young01
01-15-2010, 08:11 AM
that go inbetween the knuckle and flat arm, You may or maynot need them,just depends on what kind of springs u run,how tall your perchs are and how much droop you want. What happens is if that tierod isnt high enough it will hit the springs when drooping.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s80/tadsal/ttsfabworks/Steering/CrossOver1.jpg

i gotcha.... makes sense. thanks for the heads up :)

Alan11116
01-15-2010, 08:27 AM
or get some arms with an inch tall spacer built/molded into them.

HillBilly_Young01
02-16-2010, 04:57 PM
the man in brown came with a package for me :eek:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/parts/006.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/parts/004.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/HillBilly_Young01/sas/parts/005.jpg

big thanks goes to east coast gear supply and aussie locker for hooking me up!!!

TRoss
02-16-2010, 05:29 PM
Bling-go!! Nice dude.....

Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet? Are you done yet?

04 Rocko Taco
02-16-2010, 10:02 PM
This who brought your parts?

http://www.custombuiltgolfclubs4u.com/files/2868074/uploaded/guy-ups.JPG

HillBilly_Young01
02-18-2010, 01:44 PM
This who brought your parts?

http://www.custombuiltgolfclubs4u.com/files/2868074/uploaded/guy-ups.JPG

sure was just he was a little unsatisfied with the tip i gave him :dunno:

GOT COPE?
02-18-2010, 02:31 PM
sure was just he was a little unsatisfied with the tip i gave him :dunno:

I bet. :lmao:

gregers05
02-18-2010, 02:42 PM
sure was just he was a little unsatisfied with the tip i gave him :dunno:

I bet. :lmao:

awesome

benny_wiskas
02-18-2010, 07:32 PM
sure was just he was a little unsatisfied with the tip i gave him :dunno:

I'd be a little unsatisfied after taking one in the eye too. ;)

HillBilly_Young01
02-18-2010, 09:39 PM
I'd be a little unsatisfied after taking one in the eye too. ;)

you want a tip in the form of a cookie?

04 Rocko Taco
02-22-2010, 03:54 PM
just curious what was inappropriate about the picture I ACTUALLY posted.....

AND for God's sake why dont the mods here send you a little PM, or tag your post or something, jeez, its just sort of a common courtesy to let you know you've been modded.

88cleve4runner
02-22-2010, 04:08 PM
winter's almost over, it was like 60 yesterday. better get on the ball son haha.

misterzee
02-22-2010, 05:05 PM
I guess if you want "race-y" content you can go over to YotaTech... or Pyrate. :D

silver98Z71
02-22-2010, 07:49 PM
Hurry up you monkey. I'm gonna have my 10bolt hung before you even get brackets headed your way!

GOT COPE?
02-22-2010, 10:51 PM
just curious what was inappropriate about the picture I ACTUALLY posted.....

AND for God's sake why dont the mods here send you a little PM, or tag your post or something, jeez, its just sort of a common courtesy to let you know you've been modded.

nothing about it was inappropriate. you've been modded. here's a Kleenex.

GOT COPE?
02-22-2010, 10:52 PM
Hurry up you monkey. I'm gonna have my 10bolt hung before you even get brackets headed your way!

Then ya'll can race to see who's POS falls apart first. :lmao:

HillBilly_Young01
02-23-2010, 01:38 PM
Hurry up you monkey. I'm gonna have my 10bolt hung before you even get brackets headed your way!

not all of us can have uber cool corn planting jobs in kansas (or whatever it is that your doing)

Then ya'll can race to see who's POS falls apart first. :lmao:

i think yours will win.... but that is if you dont cut off anymore old ladies first ;)

HillBilly_Young01
02-23-2010, 01:45 PM
winter's almost over, it was like 60 yesterday. better get on the ball son haha.

and they are calling for snow tomorrow ;)

*Darcy*
02-23-2010, 02:12 PM
i think yours will win.... but that is if you dont cut off anymore old ladies first ;)

she wasn't old, she was cute ... he was just trying to get her number :rofl:

unfortunately though, he found out she was married and all that wreckage was for nothing :rofl: