: 85 build up aka White Stallion


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swimmerzack
03-16-2010, 01:16 PM
Yours:D

domino
03-16-2010, 01:20 PM
Yours:D

Sounds good. They should be in that box as well.

swimmerzack
03-16-2010, 02:25 PM
I hope Glen PIcks them up, Got any other goodies I can take off your Hands?

I think faber an dI were gonna build new cross members for the duals?/

gittinit
03-16-2010, 03:23 PM
Well waiting on seals from Marlin to complete the front housing rebuild.
Swap the F150's to the rear so its leveled out kinda rides like this \ front is way up.
Got a doubled adapter only due too i dont wanna extened my front drive shaft twice.
Then get Front bumper and sliders done

Im going to see faber the 26

I hate to say it but....Zack your rig won't be ready for takeover. Even if you make up here the 26 there just isnt enough time to get all the work done your wanting. Do you have a definate list of priorietys for the weekend of the 26th, or is it still yet to early for that?

gittinit
03-16-2010, 03:25 PM
I hope Glen PIcks them up, Got any other goodies I can take off your Hands?

I think faber an dI were gonna build new cross members for the duals?/

What kind of crossmember do you have planned for us to build?

domino
03-16-2010, 03:32 PM
I hate to say it but....Zack your rig won't be ready for takeover. Even if you make up here the 26 there just isnt enough time to get all the work done your wanting. Do you have a definate list of priorietys for the weekend of the 26th, or is it still yet to early for that?

I'm concerned about the same thing. Is the front suspension/steering already together and ready to go? All you need is some seals and to bolt the junk together? If it were me, I would get the front axle and steering bolted up, weld up the rear suspension, and get your shocks ordered ASAP. Once that's done you can see how much time is left for armor and duals.. If you have to redo half of a driveshaft after takeover so be it. I built mine and daniel's in less than 30 minutes. It's not a very hard job if you go square.

Jordan7118
03-16-2010, 03:50 PM
Skip the duals, forget the flatbed for now.

Get your suspension done, sliders, and front bumper / winch. Everything after that is just more stuff.

Driveshafts are easy peezy to make. If you have to do that twice, it's no biggie. That's the one thing I'd rather do twice.

If you wanna do Takeover, keep it simple. Just my two cents from the master of making it complicated :rolleyes:

gittinit
03-16-2010, 04:30 PM
How about a list of to do's from where you currently stand with this project. I bet once you sit back and look at the big picture its no big deal, but if you look at it as though your eating an elephant, your still only gonna take one bite at a time.

swimmerzack
03-16-2010, 04:37 PM
Faber, I dont know just something to support and protect my duals- I cant make takeover due to swimming we have a banquet to attend wich i have to speak at since i won Nationals.

I am having trouble finding the length and brand and price for shocks

swimmerzack
03-16-2010, 04:44 PM
well this next weekend, I would like to get the front bumper, sliders, duals put in new x memeber and skids- While your doing the welding that takes skill of a master i can swap out my rear axle, or maybe i'll just do it down here i dont know i just wanna get up kick it and wrench

domino
03-16-2010, 04:44 PM
I am having trouble finding the length and brand and price for shocks

1. Install springs
2. Weld up shock mounts
3. Flex suspension
4. Measure collapsed and extended lengths
5. Find shocks that match your measurements

swimmerzack
03-16-2010, 04:47 PM
I best go order my F150 shock mounts then

gittinit
03-16-2010, 05:45 PM
well this next weekend, I would like to get the front bumper, sliders, duals put in new x memeber and skids- While your doing the welding that takes skill of a master i can swap out my rear axle, or maybe i'll just do it down here i dont know i just wanna get up kick it and wrench

Sounds like a heck of a buisy weekend but we can prolly swing it. Bending tube gets better results when its a 2 man job, so expect to stay buisy, and we will get ya some gloves and safety glasses when we go pick up the consumables. When are you wanting me to place the tubing order? Has the design chang or are we gonna shoot from the hip?



The shock mouns you want are f 250 shock mounts. Do you still have the part number I gave ya, from pirate forum?

79coyotefrg
03-16-2010, 07:40 PM
yall talking about the f250 front shock towers??

Zack, heres what you need (in my opinion) to do first.

1. assemble front axle
2. install hi steer (i can assemble the arms and tierod and align the frontend)
3. weld up spring hangers for rear suspension. and hang f150 springs on ifs axle
4. sliders and front bumper
5. wheel the truck maybe at Ross or superlift or the gravel pits near Gittinit :dunno:



installing the dualcases takes alot of time, you have to modify the driveshafts, interior and crossmember


have you found a good deal on a Allpro ebrake kit yet??

swimmerzack
03-16-2010, 07:42 PM
Yea I still have it, Well Faber how bout we just focus on front bumper the silders and the cross memeber rockers and my extending front shaft just so we dont clutter your shop up with steel for you too get tempted with or trip over.

Hell who knows we might just go crazy-

gittinit
03-16-2010, 08:52 PM
Glen What tcase does Zack have? I'm aware it has 4.7 gears but is it forward or top shift? Is his spare case forward or top shift?

swimmerzack
03-16-2010, 09:56 PM
There both 21 spline gear drive top shift

gittinit
03-17-2010, 02:30 PM
Sweet! that makes it easier to keep the 4.7 case as the rear case.

swimmerzack
03-17-2010, 02:33 PM
Its also better to have 4.7's in the rear too right

gittinit
03-17-2010, 05:24 PM
I think the best reason for putting low gers in the rear case is strength. If at any one time you want just one case in low the rear should be that one, and most likely youll want that one case to be the 4.7 geared case. The torque is multipied through the cases. Multiplying all the torque through 4.7 gears 1st would add more tress to the rear case than multiplying though 2.28 1st.

Now where is that spoon icon. We gotsa feed the noobs! :flipoff4:

swimmerzack
03-17-2010, 05:27 PM
:D hey I started to read but like Jordan says ENglish/Reading is kicking my ass

gittinit
03-17-2010, 06:52 PM
:D hey I started to read but like Jordan says ENglish/Reading is kicking my ass

:D: I would draw ya a picture but this is all I could come up with. :flipoff4:

Jordan7118
03-17-2010, 07:08 PM
:D hey I started to read but like Jordan says ENglish/Reading is kicking my ass

Reading, as Aaron has shown, kicks my ass, so we're floatin' the same boat.

Basically, you want the torque to be multiplied as close to the tires as you can to reduce stress upstream. Putting 4.7 gears in front of a stock case would double the torque the rear case sees when it doesn't really have to be taking any additional abuse. You're already putting 2.28 times the torque into the rear case, so to do it 4.7 times would be really really unneccessary.

Hopefully that made sense and reinforced what Michael said. If not, we'll keep trying :D

79coyotefrg
03-17-2010, 08:30 PM
:rofl: 2.28 crawlbox and 4.7 rear case. I have spoken, all hail me http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/respect.gif

Jordan7118
03-17-2010, 10:04 PM
Glen, are you drunk? What the crap does that mean?!

gittinit
03-18-2010, 06:38 AM
Um Glen....your el presidente, not king....ok? ;) :flipoff4:

Jordan7118
03-18-2010, 01:36 PM
Um Glen....your el presidente, not king....ok? ;) :flipoff4:

I didn't vote for him, so that makes him el dick-tator :flipoff4:

Just messin' with ya, Glen :D

gittinit
03-18-2010, 03:51 PM
I didn't vote for him, so that makes him el dick-tator :flipoff4:

Just messin' with ya, Glen :D

:eek: ;) I think I'm the only one willing to reply to that post. I have nothing usefull to say though. :p

Jordan7118
03-18-2010, 09:20 PM
Why? Did I say something bad :confused:

It's all fun and games until someone loses and eye... :o

79coyotefrg
03-18-2010, 10:15 PM
Why? Did I say something bad :confused:

It's all fun and games until someone loses and eye... :o

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Jordan, have you ever heard the story of the one eyed prostitute :rolleyes:

:rofl:

Jordan7118
03-18-2010, 10:43 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Jordan, have you ever heard the story of the one eyed prostitute :rolleyes:

:rofl:

Oh dear...

No, Glen, I can't say that I have. Please, do share! :D

gittinit
03-19-2010, 07:01 AM
This one i gotta hear.

ThatGuy18
03-23-2010, 06:40 PM
Zack, the lack of pictures of your actual truck in this thread makes me sick. Learn to take pictures, n3wb!!!!!!!!exclamationpointexclamationpoint111111 1oneoneone.

Haha but for real. I need to see this thing in action. You should bring it down to Texas on the 9th of April and go wheeling with us Texas guys. :D

Boomtacoma01
03-23-2010, 06:48 PM
I was just thinking the same thing. Pics please.

79coyotefrg
03-23-2010, 08:46 PM
Oh dear...

No, Glen, I can't say that I have. Please, do share! :D

well, lets see if i can remember correctly :confused: ok i'll wing it.

ok, i better pm that to ya :cool:

swimmerzack
03-23-2010, 08:48 PM
Hey Glen can you post up some pics for these WHINERS

ThatGuy18
03-23-2010, 08:59 PM
Hey Glen can you post up some pics for these WHINERS

I think you mean "winners".

Oh, and this is Blake in case you didn't know.

Boomtacoma01
03-23-2010, 09:30 PM
winners I like that!

79coyotefrg
03-23-2010, 09:49 PM
Hey Glen can you post up some pics for these WHINERS
ok, here they come.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs472.snc3/25866_355935507281_557227281_4108980_7614410_n.jpg

http://http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs472.ash1/25866_355935542281_557227281_4108981_4359456_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs452.snc3/25866_355935572281_557227281_4108982_4699781_n.jpg

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

at least he bought the parts not knowing WHERE they came from

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs472.ash1/25866_355935592281_557227281_4108983_6558318_n.jpg

:rofl: made in Taiwan
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs452.snc3/25866_355935612281_557227281_4108984_1608603_n.jpg

no name on these but i counted 15 rollers, :dunno:

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs452.snc3/25866_355970702281_557227281_4109015_83800_n.jpg

http://http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs472.ash1/25866_355987662281_557227281_4109026_4077960_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs472.snc3/25866_355987687281_557227281_4109027_2331587_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs472.ash1/25866_355987702281_557227281_4109028_6349442_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs472.ash1/25866_355987707281_557227281_4109029_1284746_n.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs472.ash1/25866_356034822281_557227281_4109317_5708963_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs452.snc3/25866_356034832281_557227281_4109318_4451938_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs472.snc3/25866_356076532281_557227281_4109401_3129132_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs452.snc3/25866_356076552281_557227281_4109402_576883_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs472.snc3/25866_356076577281_557227281_4109403_7813882_n.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs472.ash1/25866_356076592281_557227281_4109404_4535572_n.jpg

I didnt get any pictures of the knuckle rebuilding since its a very nasty mess and i didnt want my camera greasy


i'll get a few pics tomorrow, all thats needed is the lockouts installed, and the pass side brake caliper

I hope i can manage to get it ready for Zack to mount the tires when he gets back

Jordan7118
03-24-2010, 05:25 PM
:xbeer1:

Good work, fellas!

gittinit
03-24-2010, 07:35 PM
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs452.snc3/25866_355970702281_557227281_4109015_83800_n.jpg



Glen will you trade some recipes with me? I have a great one for some broken berfield soup, with a side of chipped ring gear.

79coyotefrg
03-24-2010, 08:32 PM
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs452.snc3/25866_355970702281_557227281_4109015_83800_n.jpg



Glen will you trade some recipes with me? I have a great one for some broken berfield soup, with a side of chipped ring gear.

:rofl: i dont think ive ever noticed that "recipe" box before, :p

79coyotefrg
03-24-2010, 08:39 PM
a few more snapshots

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs458.snc3/26196_379847162281_557227281_4196070_5147440_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs478.ash1/26196_379847167281_557227281_4196071_2898607_n.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs478.ash1/26196_379847177281_557227281_4196072_2189371_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs478.ash1/26196_379847182281_557227281_4196073_3474986_n.jpg

79coyotefrg
03-24-2010, 08:41 PM
notice the ARP studs, i wire wheeled those studs, chased the threads with a tap (they were used studs) and installed with a drop of red locktight

79coyotefrg
03-24-2010, 09:31 PM
shackle angle BAD, since it smacked the frame, some banana's would be ideal, but these longer shackles from Aaron will have to do
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs478.ash1/26196_379853762281_557227281_4196196_3958611_n.jpg

I didnt have bolts so i scrounged around and found enough stock shackles to get the long bolt out of them to use
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs478.snc3/26196_379855092281_557227281_4196204_4136037_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs458.snc3/26196_379855272281_557227281_4196205_3577725_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs478.snc3/26196_379856752281_557227281_4196236_7786630_n.jpg

now you all know there needs to be a 1/2 inch spacer on the bottom bolt, well i didnt have spacers so i made some, and i couldnt get that last spacer in by myself so it got hung on the outside
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs458.snc3/26196_379857542281_557227281_4196305_249169_n.jpg

and there it is sittin on its own tires again
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs458.snc3/26196_379857912281_557227281_4196308_3936462_n.jpg

swimmerzack
03-24-2010, 10:24 PM
:eek: she is riding low.....
But SEXY none the LESS :boobies:

Jordan7118
03-25-2010, 10:42 AM
now you all know there needs to be a 1/2 inch spacer on the bottom bolt, well i didnt have spacers so i made some, and i couldnt get that last spacer in by myself so it got hung on the outside

How is that spacer going to help being on the outside of the shackle plate?

gittinit
03-25-2010, 10:45 AM
a few more snapshots

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs458.snc3/26196_379847162281_557227281_4196070_5147440_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs478.ash1/26196_379847167281_557227281_4196071_2898607_n.jpg

Glen you may have to get some close up shots, but I doubt those are arp studs. I think you installed TG parts. :D :p

YotaJosh
03-25-2010, 11:28 AM
How is that spacer going to help being on the outside of the shackle plate?

It's not a spacer, it's the end of a stock shackle. :missingto Send him down to Atwoods to get the proper bolts. A 11/16 or 3/4 will probably work.

Oh, and where's the steering box?? I thought this thing was heading to NEA this weekend?

79coyotefrg
03-25-2010, 03:48 PM
How is that spacer going to help being on the outside of the shackle plate?

its not but its there, so when Zack gets back he can use his muscles to get it in there

79coyotefrg
03-25-2010, 03:51 PM
It's not a spacer, it's the end of a stock shackle. :missingto Send him down to Atwoods to get the proper bolts. A 11/16 or 3/4 will probably work.

Oh, and where's the steering box?? I thought this thing was heading to NEA this weekend?

Zacks not coming back till saturday, he has some family issues

79coyotefrg
03-25-2010, 04:04 PM
Glen you may have to get some close up shots, but I doubt those are arp studs. I think you installed TG parts. :D :p

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/bat.gif the hell you say http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/redtantrum.gif

79coyotefrg
03-26-2010, 12:19 PM
:( i was TOLD they were ARP :mad:

Jordan7118
03-26-2010, 01:17 PM
They're ARPs.

Don't let Michael mess with ya, Glen :D

domino
03-26-2010, 01:25 PM
The studs that TG sells are made by ARP...

Jordan7118
03-26-2010, 01:39 PM
The studs that TG sells are made by ARP...

Oh snap!!!

Dave Lay said they're ARPs, so I would guess they're ARPs and not Magnums.

Interesting fact about the TG stuff, though.

79coyotefrg
03-26-2010, 02:45 PM
gotta watch that Dave, he's a sneaky bugger

Jordan7118
03-26-2010, 04:22 PM
Dave, that sneaky cat :D

I'd trust Dave about 99% of the time. This would be one of those times.

I'm just not sure about his intelligence, though. He said he sold the 60/14 and is back to runnin' Toys. Something about "It just didn't feel right..." I dunno...

gittinit
03-26-2010, 07:19 PM
:rofl: :flipoff4: :rofl:

79coyotefrg
03-26-2010, 07:39 PM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/MADCAT.gif

swimmerzack
03-26-2010, 09:47 PM
SO Ladies, are they ARP studs or not?

Jordan7118
03-27-2010, 01:28 AM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/MADCAT.gif

You're starting to sound like some of the Arkansas Crawlers with all the gun talk...

:lmao:

Only kidding...

SO Ladies, are they ARP studs or not?

I remember the "for sale" ad stating they were ARPs. Dave pretty much gave that stuff away.

gittinit
03-27-2010, 04:41 AM
SO Ladies, are they ARP studs or not?

TG studs are made by ARP so no matter who they were ordered from second hand (front range offroad, or trail gear) they are still ARP studs. Run em and quit sweating the details!

swimmerzack
03-29-2010, 12:44 AM
Updated pics monday afternoon-

it lives

79coyotefrg
03-29-2010, 10:32 AM
:yawn: pics?? did you take pics

swimmerzack
03-29-2010, 10:43 AM
No but I will later this afternoon

gittinit
03-29-2010, 04:21 PM
Its afternoon! Where da pics slacker? :p

Arky Tacoma
03-29-2010, 08:01 PM
It is 9:00 and still no pics. WTF :D

Jordan7118
03-29-2010, 09:47 PM
Howdy, Lance!

79coyotefrg
03-29-2010, 10:24 PM
It is 9:00 and still no pics. WTF :D

that boy JUST left, the histeer is on, and he's just lifted the rear to install the new rear axle

Arky Tacoma
03-29-2010, 10:54 PM
Howdy, Lance!

Word.

swimmerzack
03-29-2010, 11:00 PM
Haha left the camera at Glens haha

well i did very good then i might of fryed it all by putting the battery charger turminals on backwards haha

but Damn it looks sexy :boobies:

domino
03-30-2010, 06:24 AM
that boy JUST left, the histeer is on, and he's just lifted the rear to install the new rear axle

So what did you guys end up using for rear springs?

gittinit
03-30-2010, 07:52 AM
Haha left the camera at Glens haha

well i did very good then i might of fryed it all by putting the battery charger turminals on backwards haha

but Damn it looks sexy :boobies:

You didn't hurt it. Worst case scenario you possibly fried the computer, burnt some wires, and shorted out your instrument cluster. :flipoff4:



























































Jk if its not ok check the main fuses under the hood. You might have blown em but thats about it.

:worthless

swimmerzack
03-30-2010, 08:14 AM
Ooooohhhh is that all :flipoff1:


every thing turns on, it cranks and fires. when i give it gas it dies....:

79coyotefrg
03-30-2010, 10:00 AM
So what did you guys end up using for rear springs?

top two camaro's and whatever else we can find :p

domino
03-30-2010, 10:19 AM
top two camaro's and whatever else we can find :p

I've still got that set of ranger springs at the barn as well if you guys want to use them.

swimmerzack
03-30-2010, 03:27 PM
well i fixed the problem i need Gas hahaha

Jordan7118
03-30-2010, 03:37 PM
well i fixed the problem i need Gas hahaha

Been there :D

Glad it was a simple fix!

79coyotefrg
03-30-2010, 06:55 PM
well Zack, where those pics at??

ThatGuy18
03-30-2010, 07:40 PM
well Zack, where those pics at??

x2. You're bad at this picture thing :flipoff3:

slacker24/7
03-30-2010, 08:02 PM
They are supposed to be ARP..:confused: I know I paid a butt load for em.. !! I either got then from FROR or lowrange offroad.. if they arent, they sure as heck held up well !!!!

Jordan7118
03-30-2010, 08:27 PM
well Zack, where those pics at??

Why do you need pics, Glen? Isn't this in your yard???? :D

79coyotefrg
03-30-2010, 10:34 PM
Why do you need pics, Glen? Isn't this in your yard???? :D

LOL thats a good point :p

swimmerzack
03-30-2010, 10:50 PM
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/White%20Stallion-85%20yota%20build/IMG_0220.jpg

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/White%20Stallion-85%20yota%20build/IMG_0223.jpg
DUals
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/White%20Stallion-85%20yota%20build/IMG_0230.jpg

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/White%20Stallion-85%20yota%20build/IMG_0219.jpg

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/White%20Stallion-85%20yota%20build/IMG_0221.jpg

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/White%20Stallion-85%20yota%20build/IMG_0232.jpg

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/White%20Stallion-85%20yota%20build/IMG_0222.jpg

ThatGuy18
03-30-2010, 10:53 PM
Why are you swapping out the rear axle? Did you swap out the front also?

swimmerzack
03-30-2010, 11:05 PM
things too learn dear boi-

Ifs trucks have wider rear ends then stock SA trucks
wider stance

79coyotefrg
03-30-2010, 11:07 PM
Why are you swapping out the rear axle? Did you swap out the front also?

the axle we will be installing is 3 inches wider and its a larger diameter tube so its stronger, and it comes with disc brakes :D


we had to swap out the front axle because the one that was in it was bent.

Jordan7118
03-30-2010, 11:10 PM
things too learn dear boi-

Ifs trucks have wider rear ends then stock SA trucks
wider stance

Really, Zack? Are you giving someone else shit for asking questions you flat-out WORE-OUT mere weeks ago :D

I really hope your tow points are stronger than they look :eek: That's Glen-fab if I've ever seen it :p


Glen, how ya like that front diff armor :D


Man, that's impressive that your ALUMINUM transfer case looks rusted to hell. I'm sure Glen has enough parts around there to make a new case, though. Hopefully the internals still spin freely...


...and I'm done with the razzlin'. Glad to see some progress :cool:

Boomtacoma01
03-30-2010, 11:12 PM
Marlin goodies are always nice. So you are going to use the OEM front spring hanger for now?

79coyotefrg
03-30-2010, 11:24 PM
Marlin goodies are always nice. So you are going to use the OEM front spring hanger for now?

yea, for now, if he starts doing 5's at Hotsprings then he'll get the upgrade


Chris, are you coming up for the event??

Boomtacoma01
03-30-2010, 11:31 PM
Id really like to try and make it. Im working a lot more and we are super busy now. All extra funds are going to my 85 right now. Well on my getting my parts lined up though.

Im looking for a nice used hi steer set up if anyone up in AR has a lead

gittinit
03-31-2010, 06:42 AM
They are supposed to be ARP..:confused: I know I paid a butt load for em.. !! I either got then from FROR or lowrange offroad.. if they arent, they sure as heck held up well !!!!

In that pic, it was hard to tell they were even threaded. I was more than anything just messing with Glen. I gotta keep that blood rushing to his head every now and then just to make shure he is still alive, and well. :D

It did appear that those studs had the hex built into the tops and as though they were slightly longer than the arp studs I got from frontrange, as they have more thread showing than Mine do. The studs I have don't have the lil hex built in either. That shure would have been nice for installation.

gittinit
03-31-2010, 07:09 AM
yea, for now, if he starts doing 5's at Hotsprings then he'll get the upgrade


Chris, are you coming up for the event??

He will be lucky if he can manage to make those factory tinfoil spring hangers last through the 4s. Not only will getting a stronger spring hanger help his driveline angles, it will help get back a more stockish caster. The proper caster angle is a must for flat towing. Could you imagine flat towing a vehicle with death wobble? Scarry.

If ya manage to make it up here with that thing Zack, we will fix you up a beefier mount for the towbar bracketry, before I let you back on the road with this thing. It is something we can tie in with the front bumper.

What are ya welding in that pic Glen? Please tell me your not welding the ford shock towers on without the shocks.

Please get more pics, as the work is being done, if you want the best possible advice.

swimmerzack
03-31-2010, 07:22 AM
Ya Faber i like not having death Wobble.
Hahah no you have my shocks- he was just tacking in my box mount so then i could try my hand at it then he had to go back and fix it.

Ya My fault I was not Resposible with the camera

gittinit
03-31-2010, 07:38 AM
Ya Faber i like not having death Wobble.
Hahah no you have my shocks- he was just tacking in my box mount so then i could try my hand at it then he had to go back and fix it.

Ya My fault I was not Resposible with the camera

Here's a link for ya. I doubt youll read the whole thing , but atleast read about toe, and caster those are the most comon causes of death wobble.
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5SuRbNLjRgAG4pXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTBybnZlZnR lBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=127o3mcbq/EXP=1270126382/**http%3a//www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html

slacker24/7
03-31-2010, 08:13 AM
I have the front hanger i took off my 85 truck if ya want it.. its beef!! square tubing across front with hangers at end... not sure of mfg but it looks well made.... freebie for ya if ya want it..

swimmerzack
03-31-2010, 09:08 AM
DEAL Dave you rock. you dont have any shackles by chance do ya??
I will read it faber, thanks man

ThatGuy18
03-31-2010, 10:36 AM
things too learn dear boi-

Ifs trucks have wider rear ends then stock SA trucks
wider stance

Ah. I've just never seen anyone swap out the rear axle. Only front on the SAS. But I guess if you had to swap out your solid up front you might as well swap out the rear one. What did you replace them with? Did you use same as stock or some after market?

PS: I don't like to read just look at pictures so you probably already answered my questions somewhere :D

slacker24/7
03-31-2010, 12:31 PM
Zack pm me your address, or Glens or wherever ya want it to go and I will get it out tommrow where ya should have it Friday..... glad ya could use it..shackles for the rear of the front spring? ya know I think I do, will toss them in as well.... trade it for that Natl champ trophy !! :D

ThatGuy18
03-31-2010, 05:00 PM
What kind of bumpers are you going with for the stallion? Are you having a shop make them custom or buying them from an on line dealer like 4x Innovations?

gittinit
03-31-2010, 08:08 PM
What kind of bumpers are you going with for the stallion? Are you having a shop make them custom or buying them from an on line dealer like 4x Innovations?

Some dumb redneck in NE arkansas is gonna end up some tube for a front and eventually a flatbed out back. :D

ThatGuy18
03-31-2010, 10:42 PM
Some dumb redneck in NE arkansas is gonna end up some tube for a front and eventually a flatbed out back. :D

Ah nice

swimmerzack
03-31-2010, 11:04 PM
Hey Dumbass Redneck got something for you :flipoff4:

gittinit
04-01-2010, 06:59 AM
Hey Dumbass Redneck got something for you :flipoff4:

Sweet! :D

So when ya coming up? I need out of this house something aweful. :cool:

swimmerzack
04-01-2010, 07:13 AM
well this weekend is a bust cause the truck is on 2 jack stands, 1 wood block and 1 tire so maybe the weekend right after takeover-

I pulled my 4.7 T-case and built the doubler last night-
so plans for today is install duals, and begin with the rear springs
since its going to be awhile i may try my handy work on doing that Hurucliner on the inside of the cab.

when i come to you Faber, its just armor time and touching up all the welds

Boomtacoma01
04-01-2010, 07:32 AM
Ah. I've just never seen anyone swap out the rear axle. Only front on the SAS. But I guess if you had to swap out your solid up front you might as well swap out the rear one. What did you replace them with? Did you use same as stock or some after market?

PS: I don't like to read just look at pictures so you probably already answered my questions somewhere :D

He used another OEM front housing and an Toy IFS rear. The IFS is wider adding more stability to the trucks stance and also adds, in this case, rear disc brakes :)

Thanks for the lead on the arms Zack

swimmerzack
04-05-2010, 10:00 AM
Ya glen where them pics at

79coyotefrg
04-05-2010, 03:20 PM
working on that now

79coyotefrg
04-05-2010, 04:21 PM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck013.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck021.jpg


http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck022.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck023.jpg

the nine roller bearing he wanted to use :eek:
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crawlbox
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79coyotefrg
04-05-2010, 04:25 PM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck029.jpg

new wobble free square driveshaft
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http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck031.jpg

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http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck034.jpg

cleanest the shops been in YEARS
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http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck036.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Zackstruck037.jpg

prepping for spray/roll on bedliner
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ArkieTaco
04-05-2010, 08:45 PM
Zack.... You had on safety glasses what happened in last few pics? Go down the road to the hardware store and pick up a pair.

Dropmytaco
04-05-2010, 09:20 PM
You had on safety glasses what happened in last few pics?

Im assuming the metal eating caterpillars ate them!

gittinit
04-06-2010, 06:54 AM
The stick welding shure does bring on the funk. Oh and I'm not shure about your neck of he oods, but up here steel prics are back up. There are trailers full of scrap lined up around the corner at the local yards. Just a fyi to help motivate the "shop cleanup". :p

slacker24/7
04-06-2010, 07:35 AM
If ya havent already finished cleaning your floor boards, , put a bag of ice on the floor board tar and leave it 5-10 min. come back and hit it with a hammer and it will bust right out...:)

Boomtacoma01
04-06-2010, 07:44 AM
Zack.... You had on safety glasses what happened in last few pics? Go down the road to the hardware store and pick up a pair.

X200 on the saftey specs.

swimmerzack
04-06-2010, 09:45 AM
WHat does that floor board tar crap do for you?
You guys have suggestions for bedliner brands for my cab floor?

Ya i had them then they got lost then i had them then lost them.
My coach would of killed me if he saw these pics

slacker24/7
04-06-2010, 09:56 AM
you need to get all that tar up before doing a liner, I have had good luck with herkuliner (sp) and the duplicolor bed liner works pretty well but might take 2 coats...

79coyotefrg
04-06-2010, 10:17 AM
The stick welding shure does bring on the funk. Oh and I'm not shure about your neck of he oods, but up here steel prics are back up. There are trailers full of scrap lined up around the corner at the local yards. Just a fyi to help motivate the "shop cleanup". :p

he's gonna need your over head mig welding skills to do alot of the tough stuff but i'm getting it "on" safely enough to get it driveable


ok, i'm cleaning shop today :) at least all the crap ive been tripping over

swimmerzack
04-06-2010, 10:37 AM
Dave tell me how you did yours like prep work and all that?

I have just taken a flapper wheel to the car areas that i could hit

Jordan7118
04-06-2010, 01:04 PM
I used DRY ICE when I needed to get that tar crap up. It makes it very brittle. Just chip away.

79coyotefrg
04-06-2010, 01:18 PM
couldnt he just roll the bedliner on around it?? :dunno:

slacker24/7
04-06-2010, 02:28 PM
What Jordan said, ice it and whack it with a hammer, regular ice works, just dry ice if ya can find it is a better option... just clean it up as good as possible, rough up the surface some for adhesion and it needs to have all that tar goo up, the liner wont stay on it very well,and doesnt look very good.... tryin to get that tar up with a grinder is a real mess.... tape off what ya dont want the liner on and use a narrow paint roller, brush the edges.... I have done a couple cruisers and broncos over the years but have just painted Krackers floors as I was to cheap to rhino line it right now.... maybe later....

Boomtacoma01
04-25-2010, 10:03 PM
any more updates?

79coyotefrg
04-25-2010, 10:40 PM
any more updates?

actually yes, i worked on it for a couple hours yesterday. I got the pass side spring hanger welded on.
I took the top leaf of the stock rears and bolted it into its stock location then i bolted the camaro spring under it with a center pin, then installed the hanger and welded it up best i could till i couldnt hold my right arm up well enough to run a bead. might get the drivers side tomorrow. :welder:

79coyotefrg
04-27-2010, 10:02 AM
got a few things done to the Zackmobile, got one spring made and the spring hangers welded on.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Parts022.jpg

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http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Parts024.jpg
a neat little idea i had to prevent getting the hangers in the wrong place :D

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Parts025.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Parts026.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Parts027.jpg

a little protection
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http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/Zacks%20truck/Parts036.jpg

by this time i had been up and down one too many times and had to give up for the day http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/crutches.gif

Arky Tacoma
05-03-2010, 11:49 AM
Any updates?

79coyotefrg
05-03-2010, 07:56 PM
spring packs are done, spool installed into 3rd, gonna hang the rear housing tomorrow and weld on the spring perches

swimmerzack
05-03-2010, 08:26 PM
All while im burried inside the deep, wet, warm hole..............get your mind outta the gutter guys, its the library.

:thumbs:

gittinit
05-04-2010, 08:05 AM
All while im burried inside the deep, wet, warm hole..............get your mind outta the gutter guys, its the library.

:thumbs:

Arent you done with finals yet?

swimmerzack
05-04-2010, 09:16 AM
no:aahg: not yet i have one tonight and 2 wednesday

Jordan7118
05-04-2010, 02:15 PM
no:aahg: not yet i have one tonight and 2 wednesday

Good luck, mayne! Took my last final of my undergraduate career today. Open book and open note. Why can't they all be that way?!!! Haha!!!

What's your major?

swimmerzack
05-04-2010, 02:28 PM
you lucky ducker!!!!!

Business, at the end of this semester i have 70 hours

swimmerzack
05-14-2010, 12:56 PM
Any updates?

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/IMG_0265.jpg
My buddie clint, attempting too think

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/IMG_0263.jpg

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/IMG_0264.jpg

Greasable shackles :D
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/IMG_0270.jpg
New front Hanger

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/IMG_0269.jpg

finally my drive shaftshttp://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/IMG_0271.jpg

Boomtacoma01
05-14-2010, 01:40 PM
Looking good Zack. I should have some sparks a flying on mine within a month or so.

swimmerzack
05-14-2010, 01:43 PM
Thanks Chris, ya i see your parts list getting smaller, and your garage getting more and more cluttered. :kewl:

Boomtacoma01
05-14-2010, 01:51 PM
The only things I have left to pay for are: an HP third, my 63's and tires/wheels. then we can get this thing a going.

79coyotefrg
05-14-2010, 08:00 PM
Zack, you need to cut that front hanger loose and move it forward about 3/4 to 1 inch

swimmerzack
05-15-2010, 12:46 AM
why so?

is it not supposed to be flush up front???

Jordan7118
05-15-2010, 02:40 PM
Your shackle angle is a little far back. That's what he's talking about, Zack. It's not far from already hitting your body mount.

swimmerzack
05-15-2010, 08:46 PM
Fuck that bitch is welded up tight!!!

well ok how is it supposed to look

gittinit
05-15-2010, 09:20 PM
Fuck that bitch is welded up tight!!!

well ok how is it supposed to look

The end of the frame rails, the c shaped parts of the frame that stick out on either side should be flush with the part of the spring hanger that connects from end to end. Its hard to explain.

79coyotefrg
05-15-2010, 11:24 PM
if that shackle angle was with all the weight of the truck on the springs then its not far off, if its supported its GOTTA MOVE


can anyone confirm or not if 1985 trucks had the diagnostic port (about the size of a homemade ice cube) next to the under hood fuse block?

:dunno:

swimmerzack
05-16-2010, 12:34 AM
Got a pic or something mike?

Glen: that angle is with the truck on all four wheels supporting it's own wait, so is it ok ?

swimmerzack
05-16-2010, 01:13 PM
Well she runs now,

next is bleed the brakes, swap rear shackles, T case Gear oil (which I don't know what kind to get) :eek: liner the cab, install seat, then start FLEXINg

79coyotefrg
05-16-2010, 02:30 PM
80/90 for the tcase double check that front diff i'm sure i filled it but better be sure

gittinit
05-16-2010, 08:12 PM
I'm shure i could find one later. If you cut it loose and move it forward, you can always post up a pic and get opinions with it just tacked i place, and under its own weight, before you get it fully welded back up.

swimmerzack
05-16-2010, 10:16 PM
I flexed it out a bit this afternoon, and nothing is hitting yet, I dont have sticks to re weld the slutt back up so, anyways Im ordering Banna Shackles so i should that take care of the problem??

gittinit
05-17-2010, 06:37 AM
I flexed it out a bit this afternoon, and nothing is hitting yet, I dont have sticks to re weld the slutt back up so, anyways Im ordering Banna Shackles so i should that take care of the problem??

I dunno, it all depends on how bad it really is. That extra inch further forward might mean alot at some point. It is something that won't be any harder, or easier to change later on, than it would right now. You might could save you money on the boomerang shackles if you did move it. Heck rods are cheper than a new set of shackles.

Where are those poser flex pics at?

swimmerzack
05-17-2010, 08:20 AM
Ok I'll see what i can do to convince clint too let me do.

Well see CLint is exatly inclined on the knowledge of a camera so we didnt get any.

After I bleed the brakes I'll get some

79coyotefrg
05-17-2010, 09:55 PM
i sure hope you are using 6011 rods

Jordan7118
05-18-2010, 09:59 AM
Why 6011? From my experience, they're the most difficult to use.... and now I have a MIG :o

gittinit
05-18-2010, 04:42 PM
Ok I'll see what i can do to convince clint too let me do.

Well see CLint is exatly inclined on the knowledge of a camera so we didnt get any.

After I bleed the brakes I'll get some

Why would you have to convince someone to let you work on your truck? I'm confused. Is Clint your daddy or mabye your life partner? Huh? :rolleyes:

79coyotefrg
05-18-2010, 07:49 PM
Why 6011? From my experience, they're the most difficult to use.... and now I have a MIG :o

because its an all purpose any position rod that gets excellent penetration (something you wouldnt know about) thru dirt, rust or paint that even an idiot can use, oh wait, :rolleyes: maybe NOT

:rofl:

Jordan7118
05-18-2010, 10:25 PM
Hmmm...

I'm not an expert in stick welding, though I can run a strong bead. 6011 was the most difficult rod to learn to use, so our instructor had us learn on that rod. If you can weld with a 6011, you can weld any other rod.

I guess I'm wondering why you're using an 'all-purpose' rod that's quite difficult to use. You don't have to shoot through rust, dirt, debris - you've got a grinder and other cleaning tools.

I'm not trying to launch into a rod debate. I'm just curious as to why you're not a proponent of a different rod. I had good luck with the 70-series rods.

Thanks for your info., Glen! Please, do enlighten me :D

EDIT: I found some reading. Looks like a good site for other welding tips, too!

http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/stick-welding.html




BTW, did you ever get the t-case to shift into 4WD, Zack?

Daniel_prerunner
05-19-2010, 07:23 AM
This is just my personal opinion..But 6011 seems to be one of the easiest rods to use. Granted a 70 is stronger it's harder to weld with(again in my opinion). 6011 is a good all around rod that's about all I use. And FYI for anyone that want to bring up aarons driveshaft issue at the park..I had to use a 6013 on it and it wasn't cleaned properly for using the 6013. I had ran out of 6011's. :)

Arky Tacoma
05-19-2010, 07:39 AM
I'm not trying to launch into a rod debate.

Anybody else hear Beavis and Butthead laughing in your head?

swimmerzack
05-19-2010, 11:12 AM
BTW, did you ever get the t-case to shift into 4WD, Zack?[/QUOTE]

Ya i had to trim some of the shifting rod that went into the adapter it was rubbing n the adapter and making shifting hell'a hard. So now Im waiting for my skid, crossmemeber, e-brake combo so i can get the angle right.

my square drive shaft keeps hitting my stock crossmemeber so i dont drive it much right now.

also I found out i need to move my rear shackle hanger back about 4 inches or so.

found me some TG shock hoops really cheap :sorry Glen:

If you were ever doing a girl then you yelled another girls name then she started bucking and screaming, thats about how the Stallion rides with out them shocks.:flipoff4:

Boomtacoma01
05-19-2010, 12:08 PM
Rodeo Sex on Wheels Nice :)

79coyotefrg
05-19-2010, 12:26 PM
Anybody else hear Beavis and Butthead laughing in your head?

:rofl: actually when he said that

Hmmm...

I'm not trying to launch into a rod debate. I'm just curious as to why you're not a proponent of a different rod.


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79coyotefrg
05-19-2010, 12:35 PM
Ya i had to trim some of the shifting rod that went into the adapter it was rubbing n the adapter and making shifting hell'a hard. So now Im waiting for my skid, crossmemeber, e-brake combo so i can get the angle right.

my square drive shaft keeps hitting my stock crossmemeber so i dont drive it much right now.
dude, get some u bolts(you'll have 4 when you get your flip kit) get them over the top of the frame and let them dangle down, strap up your tcase and move the cross member back to the rear tcase and use the bolts to hold it up there. Ive ran mine like this for the last 6 years. Mikes gonna have it on its way in the next couple weeks i think


also I found out i need to move my rear shackle hanger back about 4 inches or so.

found me some TG shock hoops really cheap :sorry Glen:

Zack --> http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/headthump.gif <-- me


If you were ever doing a girl then you yelled another girls name then she started bucking and screaming, thats about how the Stallion rides with out them shocks.:flipoff4:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/bumpinbutts.gif

Jordan7118
05-19-2010, 02:29 PM
Welp, I guess I'll just stick to my MIG :o

Daniel_prerunner
05-19-2010, 07:09 PM
Wasn't bein an ass! I was just sayin...I wish I had a MIG to practice with, then maybe I would prefer it over stick. Never have got to use one much though.

79coyotefrg
05-19-2010, 08:06 PM
I never really saw a need to learn mig since every single on sight welding rigs ive ever seen in 20 years of construction were stick welders. Only migs i ever saw were at the big shops or at the "home office shop"

if you see a service truck ANYWHERE look and see what they run :kewl:

Jordan7118
05-19-2010, 11:07 PM
Wasn't bein an ass! I was just sayin...I wish I had a MIG to practice with, then maybe I would prefer it over stick. Never have got to use one much though.

Nah, I knew you weren't bein' a jerk. I just know to play to my strengths :D

I just have had a different experience. Not sure why, but it is what it is.

I was a TA for the welding class this past semester at the UofA when I had time. I worked with one guy in particular that just couldn't seem to grasp the concept. He was using 6011. I tried him on a 6013 and saw a great improvement in his welding ability. I did a 6011 to 6013 to 701? and found the 70 series to be the prettiest and most intuitive for me.

That was just my experience, so I was curious as to why 6011 was recommended. Now I know :D

I never really saw a need to learn mig since every single on sight welding rigs ive ever seen in 20 years of construction were stick welders. Only migs i ever saw were at the big shops or at the "home office shop"

if you see a service truck ANYWHERE look and see what they run :kewl:

Yep, almost all will be a generator-run stick welder. I always thought this was due to simplicity. No gas needed (plus, shielding gas in a possibly windy situation = poor weld), you can always see how much filler you have (rod is visible versus concealed MIG spool), and I've heard a stick weld is generally the strongest weld available (especially for the complexity).

MIG tends to be a more expensive technology, which is why I think many people haven't picked it up or have any desire to swap over. Why abandon what works?


So, there ya have it. Nothing like a little MIG vs. ARC debate :o



Zack, glad you got the t-case dilemma figured out! When do you think this thing will be on the trails? And don't say, "Before yours!!!" :p

gittinit
05-20-2010, 04:11 AM
I never really saw a need to learn mig since every single on sight welding rigs ive ever seen in 20 years of construction were stick welders. Only migs i ever saw were at the big shops or at the "home office shop"

if you see a service truck ANYWHERE look and see what they run :kewl:

Stick welders are required by law in some forms of metal construction becouse the flux is in the rod, much as a fluxcore wire welder. With a mig the gas can be blown away from the weld causing a loss of penetration, prosity, and brittle welds. A MIG is by far superior in all controled situatons to a stick welder and comes in second to a tig welder, as far as machines go, considering the operators are equal in their abilitys to us them. MIG and TIG welder are shop based welders becouse by design they need a controlled environment. Stick welders are used on service trucks becouse of their ability to produce quality welds in harsh conditions, not becouse they are "better".

It all boils down to the operators. There is no way I would trust my life to my welds using a stick welder, or a TIG, but I would trust yours, mine, and my kids lives to my welds with a mig welder. Hell to be absoutly truthfull every welder operator has their quirks, just as Glen likes one specific type of rod, I like to burn my welds in fast and hot. Others using TIG may starve their welds of filler, or go to light on heat, and wind up without enough penetration, on an otherwise good lookig weld.

Yall can easily identify a bad weld, but I doubt to many of us shade tree fabricators can really idenify a GOOD weld. :welder: My personal prefrences lie with a MIG but thats what I honed my skills on and I don't, for the life of me, understand how yall can build anything more than a BBQ grill to hold up to hard use, with a stick welder, no matter what number rod your riding. It is aparent yall can and do though, I have seen your rigs go.

domino
05-20-2010, 06:50 AM
It all boils down to the operators. There is no way I would trust my life to my welds using a stick welder, or a TIG, but I would trust yours, mine, and my kids lives to my welds with a mig welder.

Yall I don't, for the life of me, understand how yall can build anything more than a BBQ grill to hold up to hard use, with a stick welder, no matter what number rod your riding. It is aparent yall can and do though, I have seen your rigs go.


I hate to tell you, but you trust your life to stick welds every day. The bridges you drive on and dams holding our rivers back were built using stick welders, as well as many other civil works projects. A good weld is a good weld, regardless of process..

Edit: I see you were talking about trusting YOUR welds with a stick welder. You are right in that it all boils down to the operator.

Jordan7118
05-20-2010, 09:27 AM
Man, I really derailed this, huh?!

Good information, though.

It is all in the operator. Unlike Faber, I like to go a little slower but still get solid penetration. I just like to take my time. And here come the love-making jokes... :rolleyes:

ThatGuy18
05-20-2010, 10:08 AM
http://ui29.gamespot.com/2332/stayontopic_2.jpg

79coyotefrg
05-20-2010, 11:25 AM
i would trust Michaels mig welds over most anyone I know. but remember besides my sliders (Michael welded up) everything on my truck prior to the wreck was welded with a 6011.

Jordan, a 6011 wasnt designed to look pretty, it was designed for strong welds that dont cause the surrounding metal to become brittle from excessive heat. A 6011 can burn a very nice and deep bead on 90 amps that a 7018 would require 160 amps to get the same penitration.
it doesnt surprise me at all that your instructor or whoever he was couldnt make a 6011 bead look good and the 6013 and 7018 looked nice. they were designed to have slag that would break off very easily so that another bead could be ran over the top of them.
the 6013 particularly was made to be a filler rod, it wont penetrate shit but will fill a hole in a hurry.



HEY ZACK WE NEED UPDATES


:worthless

79coyotefrg
05-20-2010, 11:29 AM
http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/schilder/213.gif

Jordan7118
05-20-2010, 12:02 PM
Glen, you have way too much time on your hands... :D

gittinit
05-20-2010, 12:38 PM
I hate to tell you, but you trust your life to stick welds every day. The bridges you drive on and dams holding our rivers back were built using stick welders, as well as many other civil works projects. A good weld is a good weld, regardless of process..

Edit: I see you were talking about trusting YOUR welds with a stick welder. You are right in that it all boils down to the operator.

Yes I was refering to my stick welds. My stick welding skills bring a 10 on the Fail Scale!

79coyotefrg
05-20-2010, 09:54 PM
Glen, you have way too much time on your hands... :D
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/weirdthread.gif

slacker24/7
05-23-2010, 05:23 PM
Zack, Michael thought ya might have a rear cover off a t case.. from your doubler do.. I am in need of one, I noticed a slight crack in mine.. (long story) Jordan thinks he has one, but if no, t I am trying to figure a plan B.
thanks Dave

swimmerzack
05-23-2010, 05:25 PM
Dave you need the tail housing?
or just the crawl box?

79coyotefrg
05-23-2010, 06:38 PM
we still have all those pieces but one was cracked

swimmerzack
05-23-2010, 06:52 PM
I think it was just flaking off

slacker24/7
05-24-2010, 08:29 AM
actually the back housing of the case, not actually the tail housing ( small cover where the output shaft comes out) but the next larger cover

swimmerzack
05-24-2010, 08:52 AM
Ya sure just get with glen, anything i have is up there and your welcome to it

79coyotefrg
05-24-2010, 12:38 PM
actually the back housing of the case, not actually the tail housing ( small cover where the output shaft comes out) but the next larger cover

i think we have 2 of those dave

slacker24/7
05-24-2010, 03:43 PM
cool.. lemme see if Jordan has one, I will see him this weekend, if not I will holler at ya.. thanks Glen..

79coyotefrg
05-24-2010, 05:36 PM
I think it was just flaking off

LOL i thought it was just you :p

ThatGuy18
06-15-2010, 03:44 PM
So what the hell is going on with this thing?

gittinit
06-15-2010, 06:56 PM
Shurely the state swim champ inst giving up just before crossing the finnish line. :rolleyes:

ThatGuy18
06-16-2010, 11:24 AM
Shurely the state swim champ inst giving up just before crossing the finnish line. :rolleyes:

I haven't even heard from or seen him since he got back to Texas. He posted on TW a few days ago but nothing else.

Boomtacoma01
07-09-2010, 01:04 PM
Glen or Zack any updates?

79coyotefrg
07-10-2010, 11:06 AM
Glen or Zack any updates?

not really, his rear shackles are a problem we have to get fixed and waiting on his crossmember.

and its summer time and young Zacks chasin girls in bikini's at whatever watering hole he's nearest. :p

gittinit
07-10-2010, 01:29 PM
not really, his rear shackles are a problem we have to get fixed and waiting on his crossmember.

and its summer time and young Zacks chasin boys in speedos at whatever watering hole he's nearest. :p

/\ there I fixed it for ya. :D

79coyotefrg
07-10-2010, 02:03 PM
/\ there I fixed it for ya. :D

:rofl: better watch out, he'll be coming to see you soon enough :p

swimmerzack
07-10-2010, 03:25 PM
Faber stop fantasizing about me.
But if you incisist I'll show you some love too http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/IMG_0360.jpg

not just any love but EXTEME love

gittinit
07-10-2010, 10:32 PM
Faber stop fantasizing about me.
But if you incisist I'll show you some love too http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/swimmerzack/IMG_0360.jpg

not just any love but EXTEME love

thanks for that pic.... EEEW... You and your boyfriend make a nice couple, I wish yall all the best!

:D :p :p

Oh and, what word did yall fags spell out on yor chests for your gay pride parade?

79coyotefrg
07-10-2010, 11:46 PM
thanks for that pic.... EEEW... You and your boyfriend make a nice couple, I wish yall all the best!

:D :p :p

Oh and, what word did yall fags spell out on yor chests for your gay pride parade?

:rofl: apparently Zack wears the pants since dude doesnt appear to have any on http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/bolt.gif

swimmerzack
07-11-2010, 12:08 AM
Thats right im no bodies BITCH!!! :flipoff4:

88coltrunner
07-14-2010, 08:17 AM
hey zach nice name for the truck still gotta think of a name for mine

79coyotefrg
07-16-2010, 11:06 AM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/79coyotefrg/smilies/bumpinbutts.gif

Jordan7118
08-31-2010, 10:42 AM
What's the status of d' truck?

Arky Tacoma
08-31-2010, 12:08 PM
I think he is busy being :supergay: Have you seen his facebook page?

Jordan7118
08-31-2010, 01:39 PM
I think he is busy being :supergay: Have you seen his facebook page?

No. What's Zach's last name?

Heck, I'll just creep your friends list. If that doesn't work, I'll head over to Glen's.

How to make da internets work for you :cool:

Arky Tacoma
08-31-2010, 02:44 PM
Zackary Interrante. Way too many pics of him and other dudes with their shirts off. Scary stuff!

Jordan7118
08-31-2010, 07:22 PM
Yea, I creeped your friends and found him :o

That's a badass last name, though. Too bad he's gay :eek:


Just kiddin', Zack. Come defend your honor!

swimmerzack
08-31-2010, 07:27 PM
Jordan you know you wish I would turn too the dark side for you!!! :flipoff1:

Lance, by the way your truck running yet cause mine has been :flipoff1:

some granny dinged my doors so i made some badass sliders :xrocker: for the taco and let me say up here at school no one comes near my truck:cool:

Arky Tacoma
08-31-2010, 07:47 PM
Jordan you know you wish I would turn too the dark side for you!!! :flipoff1:

Lance, by the way your truck running yet cause mine has been :flipoff1:

some granny dinged my doors so i made some badass sliders :xrocker: for the taco and let me say up here at school no one comes near my truck:cool:

:D Figured that would bring you out of hiding. You've been wheelin'? Holy crap! How'd it go? Mine has been driving the malls for a while, but no trails as of yet. Still some :welder: to do. But, I plan to make it to the Crawl in October if not before for a test run.

Jordan7118
08-31-2010, 10:15 PM
Jordan you know you wish I would turn too the dark side for you!!! :flipoff1:


Eff, you figured me out :lmao:

So what's the word, Zack? What ya been doin? Got any pics or progress reports? I might just get Snoop trail-ready this coming weekend... :eek:

swimmerzack
08-31-2010, 11:54 PM
Holly frick, snoop is wheelable??????

Na my camera got sister jacked :(

she drives, she crawls

Arky Tacoma
09-01-2010, 07:13 AM
she drives, she crawls

Did you take it wheelin on some trails?

Jordan7118
09-01-2010, 10:04 AM
Holly frick, snoop is wheelable??????


Ha ha! No, not yet. I know, it's gonna be weird :o


So you plannin' on making the Souther Cruiser Crawl? The weather should be just about perfect... provided a flash flood doesn't rip through camp... :eek:

ThatGuy18
09-14-2010, 09:51 AM
This build is lame. :flipoff1:

Just messin' with ya Zack. We need to meet up in Gilmer sometime once I get my locker and sliders installed.

79coyotefrg
09-15-2010, 03:18 PM
Zack, I have some ford shackles you can use to get it moveable till your shackle hanger can be moved.

YotaJosh
09-23-2010, 08:34 PM
Dibs on the 4.7 tcase gears. :flipoff4:

How's the Taco wheeling rig coming? Is it 4WD yet?

Jordan7118
09-23-2010, 08:47 PM
Wait, what???

I hope that was a joke, Josh :o

domino
09-29-2010, 11:26 AM
So is this thing gonna make it to the SCC? It's sad that your thread has more posts than any other in General Discussion yet you haven't taken the thing off road yet..

Jordan7118
09-29-2010, 11:49 AM
Zack told me the Stallion is in Texas, so probably not gonna make the SCC :(

Arky Tacoma
09-29-2010, 12:07 PM
Hey Zack, check out my thread and see my truck has hit the trail!!! Where is some pics of yours doing the same? :D

swimmerzack
09-29-2010, 12:14 PM
Hey Zack, check out my thread and see my truck has hit the trail!!! Where is some pics of yours doing the same? :D

Well lance, truth is my truck did hit some trails, and i would of had some photos too show you truck porn addicts....but the one involved with taking photos :boobies: got a little busy..... :jack: and shifting in 4 lo lo got me so excited about how slow i was going. I too got excited :bhump:

Arky Tacoma
09-29-2010, 12:30 PM
Pics or it didn't happen ;)

domino
09-29-2010, 12:45 PM
Well lance, truth is my truck did hit some trails, and i would of had some photos too show you truck porn addicts....but the one involved with taking photos :boobies: got a little busy..... :jack: and shifting in 4 lo lo got me so excited about how slow i was going. I too got excited :bhump:

So are you gonna haul your junk up here and go wheeling with us or what? And I still wanna see that bed of yours.

79coyotefrg
09-29-2010, 12:50 PM
So is this thing gonna make it to the SCC? It's sad that your thread has more posts than any other in General Discussion yet you haven't taken the thing off road yet..

he told me he had a wreck going home with it. apparently that walmart tow bar gave up and let the stallion almost pass the taco backwards

no serious damage to the truck but made the towbar look like a pretzel

swimmerzack
09-29-2010, 01:51 PM
No the taco got slammed the stallion is okay as far as i know. its been awhile since ive seen it. Love to haul it up just dont ahve time with swimming going on im training 25 hours a week or so then school. I just cant drive home yet :(

Aaron bed is yours, you called first. love to swap with ya i just gotta get time to drive down get my truck bring the bitch back up and us swap.

Jordan7118
09-29-2010, 02:39 PM
I called it on the tow bar :cool:

Dang't, Aaron. I need that bed, you punk! Haha!

domino
09-29-2010, 02:42 PM
I called it on the tow bar :cool:

Dang't, Aaron. I need that bed, you punk! Haha!

I need it more! Tell you what, I'll take what I need and give you the rest, just like the sch 40 deal. :D

Jordan7118
09-29-2010, 02:43 PM
I need it more! Tell you what, I'll take what I need and give you the rest, just like the sch 40 deal. :D
I have a feeling that's not gonna work out very good for me on the bed deal... :o

YotaJosh
09-29-2010, 03:05 PM
Pick-N-Pull on Baseline in LR has a 2nd gen 4wd truck with a somewhat decent bed if I recall correctly.

Jordan7118
09-29-2010, 03:11 PM
Hmmm...

If I remember right, they want an arm and a leg for it. I didn't check into just cutting up up, though. Maybe they'll give a price break for just rear quarter panels and tailgate...

If only I had time... Dang't boi...

swimmerzack
07-10-2011, 08:54 AM
well its back in the delph.....

domino
07-10-2011, 10:49 AM
well its back in the delph.....

Gonna take it to twig mtn with us?

swimmerzack
07-11-2011, 03:14 AM
Once I get the shocks mounted... I'll take it anywhere!!

Jordan7118
07-11-2011, 08:25 AM
Once I get the shocks mounted... I'll take it anywhere!!

I'll believe that when I see it :D

The longest thread on here with the least amount of wheeling :p

swimmerzack
07-11-2011, 08:46 AM
hey when its just me and Glenfier it takes 4x as long as you guys

gittinit
07-11-2011, 03:31 PM
I'll believe that when I see it :D

The longest thread on here with the least amount of wheeling :p

I think he is Jelous Zack, before you cme along Jordan was the non wheelingest internets surfinest.....Someone had to steal the "webwheeler" title from him. :D

Jordan7118
07-11-2011, 03:34 PM
Yeah, give my title back, butt joust :D

swimmerzack
07-11-2011, 05:54 PM
FABer i miss you, you ole jolly fellow you!!

Ya jordan had to grow up and get tied up. :D

79coyotefrg
07-11-2011, 07:16 PM
I think he is Jelous Zack, before you cme along Jordan was the non wheelingest internets surfinest.....Someone had to steal the "webwheeler" title from him. :D

:rofl:

79coyotefrg
07-11-2011, 07:21 PM
yea, not much is gonna happen till this heat breaks. its after 8pm and just now dropped under 100* http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/verschiedene/d015.gif

Jordan7118
07-12-2011, 08:21 AM
:rofl:

What you gigglin' about, Glen? Looks like you're in a tie for most non-wheeling :p




Ya'll suck it up and get this thing on the trails!

swimmerzack
07-12-2011, 08:51 AM
all it needs is 4 shock mounts, and a t-case crossmemeber, and rear hangers and its done...

Jordan7118
07-12-2011, 10:23 AM
Then hippity hop to it!

:missingto

Arky Tacoma
07-12-2011, 12:29 PM
all it needs is 4 shock mounts, and a t-case crossmemeber, and rear hangers and its done...
See you in October ;)

Jordan7118
07-12-2011, 01:17 PM
See you in October ;)

Nope. I'll call it right meow...


"I have a swim meet that weekend. Dang..."


Ya'll heard it here first :p

gittinit
07-12-2011, 09:16 PM
Nope. I'll call it right meow...


"I have a swim meet that weekend. Dang..."


Ya'll heard it here first :p

:lmao:

Boomtacoma01
08-19-2011, 07:58 AM
Any more progress on this?

swimmerzack
08-20-2011, 10:10 AM
It needs all 4 shocks mounted up, a xmemeber for the duals, and a fixing the arch of the rear springs then its done.

problem is getting the help to do it

gittinit
08-23-2011, 11:45 PM
shock crosmember shipped for $60

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1002168

domino
08-24-2011, 05:41 AM
It needs all 4 shocks mounted up, a xmemeber for the duals, and a fixing the arch of the rear springs then its done.

problem is getting the help to do it

If you can get the parts together and get the truck to Haskell, I'll help you put it together. Hope you bought that crossmember while it was still on sale!

swimmerzack
08-24-2011, 08:47 AM
i ended up with the ford shock towers for 22.75
no.... books got in the way before i could get the xmemeber....

how far are you from from arkadoo?

Faber, is that mount for the rear??

Yes it's rear shock bar.

domino
08-24-2011, 08:56 AM
i ended up with the ford shock towers for 22.75
no.... books got in the way before i could get the xmemeber....

how far are you from from arkadoo?

Faber, is that mount for the rear??

Well that sucks about the crossmember, but even when it's not on sale it's the best deal out there. Buy from a vendor and save a little bit. I'm about an hour away from Arkadelphia

swimmerzack
08-24-2011, 09:09 AM
i Pmed that guy and the rear shock hanger....

I may just Glenfer it till i get my refund check back in.
I just looked at all the vendors its the cheapest by far....

We used ford shackels to fix the fact that there hitting the frame. I just saw that the relocation hangers on marlin are like 29$ over the usual 39. might get them

79coyotefrg
08-24-2011, 11:30 AM
did you ever find that other ford shackle??

swimmerzack
08-24-2011, 12:04 PM
No.....

Jordan7118
08-24-2011, 12:21 PM
I might have a Ford shackle laying around. You need one, Zack?