Project: Chicken Runner *LITE*

[TRoss]

Bored, broke and tired of watching people build cool stuff I figured I could at least put some elbow grease into Chicken Runner. Figured I could eek out a few dollars here and there for expendables. (cut off wheels, grinding disks, rattle can).

I don't expect this project to go anywhere fast. Wanted to work on my fab skills mostly. If it gets finished.. fine, if not that's okay too.

Bought it same time I bought BR. Engine was dead, harness butchered but the body was solid. It's an '86 DX model.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC01209.jpg

Sold some stuff, gave some stuff away....
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC01906.jpg

Getting lighter and lighter
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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC02275.jpg

Finally got it so light that it floats :D
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Here's the farm chassis lift ;)
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Silly Body Plans:
I want to get good at sheet metal/body work.
Cut the top off, leave the windshield frame only. Lexan.
Narrow the body width about 6"
Bob the tail.
Cut the front radiator and fender wells off. DONE
Attach remaining sheet metal to toooob (one day :rolleyes:).
Would like to keep the doors and glass and do a soft top of some sort. Something for winter/rain. Mohave heater maybe...
Open wheel wells/openings, clearance firewall.
Simple sheet metal dash panel.. yadda.. yadda..

Silly Chassis Plans:
Clean up the frame buy hacking off all the IFS weldments and other unwanted parasites.
Move the motor back some???? Maybe...
Flat belly.
Semi-exo.
Full hydro.
Link suspension is a must. Waaaaay off tho $$$$$.

Unknowns:
Prolly go with Toy axles only because I have them. By the time you build'm up you could have D60's tho.
Figured a 38'ish size tires... dunno...
I have a 22r short block, might build it and run propane???

Who knows what'll happen... I just wanna DO SOMETHING to it!!!!

[GOT COPE?]

Cool idea, but I would keep the cab top on it.

[4inT100]

x2 on the no top chop. Nothing worse than those crazy summer days when it decides to rain for 20 minutes just hard enough to soak you and make you miserable.

Dovetail the front.

[Phil88]

i support :saw: i like the plans but no 60s, i say cut everything you dont need make it light on toy axles.

[Derka]

i support :saw: i like the plans but no 60s, i say cut everything you dont need make it light on toy axles.

x2 ....cut the rear off, then tube and 4link...that would be interesting.

[GOT COPE?]

i support :saw: i like the plans but no 60s, i say cut everything you dont need make it light on toy axles.

x2 ....cut the rear off, then tube and 4link...that would be interesting.

Yeah, you could gut it, cut everything off behind the cab and rehang the rear outer skins on the tube work.

[TRoss]

Cool idea, but I would keep the cab top on it.

Why fo?

This thing looks cool... literally.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/Choppedtop.jpg

x2 on the no top chop. Nothing worse than those crazy summer days when it decides to rain for 20 minutes just hard enough to soak you and make you miserable.

Dovetail the front.

True.

Maybe. I like pinched noses on reg width. I think the narrowing sort of replaces dovetail and pinch. Not sure I want both, might end up looking like a canoe!! :eek:

i support :saw: i like the plans but no 60s, i say cut everything you dont need make it light on toy axles.

Sort of what I was thinking too. And, gives me more :welder: experience on the Toy axles ;) Lite and very basic will be the goal for sure.

x2 ....cut the rear off, then tube and 4link...that would be interesting.

Yeah, still kinda thinking thru that one. I like a "back half" rig in the pickup variety. I want to keep the 4R body tub tho. Could still whack the frame and work the tube through the body etc...

Thanks for all the input guys.
It's still just a stupid pipe dream for now.

[TRoss]

Whittled on Chicken Runner a little more today. Removed the windshield, inner fenders/rad-support, some shields underneath etc...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03765.jpg

Ummm, chicken guts!
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03764.jpg

Rusty A pillar. BR has the same thing going on, hope it's not this bad tho :eek:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03768-1.jpg

Cleaned up the firewall a little. Removed the brake and fuel lines for now might need them later. Kept this little support, might come in handy later.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03766.jpg

Cleaned out the inside and removed the remaining wiring. If anyone needs the top switch/rear window brain gizzmo lemme know. All I wanna keep is the tail light harness.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03767.jpg

Playin' around with bobtail, high clearance and narrowing ideas. Gotta make some HD saw horses soon.
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[GOT COPE?]

Might could use the rear window brain. But you can keep it until I'm sure I need it.

FWIW I dont like the high clearance look. I like bobs keeping the sweep of the lower fender. And once you bob it, you probably wont need the high clearance cut anyway.
In other words (IMO) the high clearance cut is for people who refuse to bob yet still attempt to keep their @ss from dragging.

[the_slug]

Do you still have and want to sell bumpers if they are in good shape? From the pictures up top, the front looks a lot better than mine.

[88cleve4runner]

very interesting thread you've got going on here, i like the way the bob and high clearance is going on in the ba-donk-a-donk

[TRoss]

Might could use the rear window brain. But you can keep it until I'm sure I need it.

10-4.... just lemme know.

FWIW I dont like the high clearance look. I like bobs keeping the sweep of the lower fender. And once you bob it, you probably wont need the high clearance cut anyway.
In other words (IMO) the high clearance cut is for people who refuse to bob yet still attempt to keep their @ss from dragging.

Yeah, looking at most of the bob'd T4R's, they are not HC'd. Depends on how bad I hack up the bob will determine if HC comes into play. :p

Hey, U never said why you'd keep the top.

Do you still have and want to sell bumpers if they are in good shape? From the pictures up top, the front looks a lot better than mine.

Yeah man, come and get it for a small Chicken Runner donation.

very interesting thread you've got going on here, i like the way the bob and high clearance is going on in the ba-donk-a-donk

Thanks, we'll see how it goes. I predict the project comes to a screeching halt when major component procurement is required.

[TRoss]

This bob looks purdy good.... dunno 'bout those teeny weeny rear leafs tho. :eek:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/T4RBobJob.jpg

[gregers05]

This bob looks purdy good.... dunno 'bout those teeny weeny rear leafs tho. :eek:


thats what a 4 link is for:D

[GOT COPE?]

Hey, U never said why you'd keep the top.


Same reason someone else posted. Those time when the weather makes you wish you still had one.

And I dont think cutting it off would provide enough benefit over keeping it on there. But thats just my opinion. ;)

[GOT COPE?]

This bob looks purdy good.... dunno 'bout those teeny weeny rear leafs tho. :eek:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/T4RBobJob.jpg

Thats what I'm talking about, very subtle and clean.

[misterzee]

Speaking of "bobs", I liked MetalMangler's work on Toe-Jamm, he should be a consultant. I might do that to my 85 one day this summer, just to make it a little less useful... :p

[the_slug]

I like the looks of the 1st gens too much to go to chopping on it. I want to keep mine looking mostly stock, but make it into a "decent enough" offroading DD.

[*Darcy*]

I like the looks of the 1st gens too much to go to chopping on it. I want to keep mine looking mostly stock, but make it into a "decent enough" offroading DD.

exactly! I bought a first gen because i wanted it to look like a first gen :)


when they're bobbed too much, it reminds me of an old ford bronco, and honestly, i'd rather mine look like a toyota :p

http://www.4x4offroads.com/image-files/1996-ford-bronco-picture.jpg

[the_slug]

exactly! I bought a first gen because i wanted it to look like a first gen :)


when they're bobbed too much, it reminds me of an old ford bronco, and honestly, i'd rather mine look like a toyota :p

http://www.4x4offroads.com/image-files/1996-ford-bronco-picture.jpg

You're gonna lose friends talking like that! :lmao:

[04 Rocko Taco]

Hey Ted/Colin.
I guess Im second in line for the window brain gizmo.... mine is crap. :(

[benny_wiskas]

Here's some inspiration for ya. :kewl:
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=857766

[misterzee]

Hey Ted/Colin.
I guess Im second in line for the window brain gizmo.... mine is crap. :(

are you sure Chris? I have yet to see one go bad.

[GOT COPE?]

Hey Ted/Colin.
I guess Im second in line for the window brain gizmo.... mine is crap. :(

You can take it if it's ok with Nicole, hers works for the most part, just wont go up with the key. More likely wiring than the actual brain.

[TRoss]

thats what a 4 link is for:D

Fo sho :D

Same reason someone else posted.

Gotch'a. However, I'm still fairly sure it's going away... I'm thinkin' rag top... a blue one, from Wal-Mart. :shiner:

Speaking of "bobs", I liked MetalMangler's work on Toe-Jamm, he should be a consultant. I might do that to my 85 one day this summer, just to make it a little less useful... :p

X2!! Where is MM anyway?
C'mon Z, bob Whitey! :p (JK, you better not, Whitey is too nice!)

I like the looks of the 1st gens too much to go to chopping on it. I want to keep mine looking mostly stock, but make it into a "decent enough" offroading DD.

I hope to own a nice 1st Gen Runner one day. They ARE the bomb! Chicken Runner is just a victim of boredom.

Hey Ted/Colin.
I guess Im second in line for the window brain gizmo.... mine is crap. :(

Ya'll fight it out (my money is on Nic). :lmao:

Here's some inspiration for ya. :kewl:
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=857766

Already subscribed dude!! Thanks for watching out tho. That's going to be a killer rig.

[*Darcy*]

You can take it if it's ok with Nicole, hers works for the most part, just wont go up with the key. More likely wiring than the actual brain.

i never said i needed it :p

[04 Rocko Taco]

yeah, burnt up little slag that resembles what used top be relays are usually an indicator it has gone bad. :) Fixed all the wiring issues, but dont have a little brain anymore. (if I ever did) so, if NiColin doesn't need it.... what do ya need for it Mr Ross?

[TRoss]

yeah, burnt up little slag that resembles what used top be relays are usually an indicator it has gone bad. :) Fixed all the wiring issues, but dont have a little brain anymore. (if I ever did) so, if NiColin doesn't need it.... what do ya need for it Mr Ross?

$4.75 will buy it. :D but you gotta take the switch and the harness too.

[TRoss]

Got side tracked with BR. Removed the tranny and sent it off to Mr. Marlin on a slow boat to the "left coast". He's gonna fix it up for me.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/85%20Truck/DSC03774.jpg

Made some saw horses... sheesh... I am NOT a carpenter so no laughing!! :eek: And yeah, I gotta do more triangulation to them.
Did some serious sypherin' on the bob work ahead.... made my head hurt so I called it a day.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03777.jpg

Did somebody say chicken??
One of my Paw-in-law's play toys ;)
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03781.jpg

[88cleve4runner]

hey sorry to hijack, but ted, did you send that crossmember off with the tcase? if not i could use it for some measurements and save myself a butt ton of time haha

[TRoss]

No, I've got it. What dims do you need?

[88cleve4runner]

well i had one bent today that follows the angles and stuff, its just the tcase mount holes are off centered and the place that bent this piece can't find the measurements so i have to mark them for them to cut, i'd like to just lay one on top of the other and trace the holes or just get the measurements from you somehow.

[TRoss]

Bring it on down, ur not too far away.

[88cleve4runner]

i'm going down to see James (stomper) this weekend. where are you in relation to him?

[88cleve4runner]

Nevermind some things have came up and it
doesn't look like I'll be able to hang around down there for too long Saturday. I may have to find a way to get them another way. How long will your t case and stuff be gone?

[TRoss]

A couple of weeks I guess...

[04 Rocko Taco]

Hey Ted.... I dont think I'll be headed up your way anytime soon. Let me know who is heading out that way and when and we'll see if we can we can work out some TTORA express.

[misterzee]

hey sorry to hijack, but ted, did you send that crossmember off with the tcase? if not i could use it for some measurements and save myself a butt ton of time haha

I have two manual tranny crossmembers if that helps. (perhaps you need three or four? LOL)

[misterzee]

You can take it if it's ok with Nicole, hers works for the most part, just wont go up with the key. More likely wiring than the actual brain.
True, more than likely the tailgate harness... but I have two boxes Colin. never actually seen one be the culprit, its always the tailgate harness...

[88cleve4runner]

I have two manual tranny crossmembers if that helps. (perhaps you need three or four? LOL)

haha no i'll have 2 stock ones after this weekend, but with the stock ones, you can't really get the dimensions on where to place the holes to mount the t case. i have a xmember bent up already, i just odn't know about the holes. i'll probably just handle it the hard way but i'd rather get my hands on a bud and just mock them up, because the one i had made is basically a bud. but thanks anyway.

Ted i'll do my best to meet up with you sometime, but if it doesn't work out i'll mock it up to my t case the hard way. thanks in advance

[TRoss]

Hey Ted.... I dont think I'll be headed up your way anytime soon. Let me know who is heading out that way and when and we'll see if we can we can work out some TTORA express.

10-4, it'll be here.

Ted i'll do my best to meet up with you sometime, but if it doesn't work out i'll mock it up to my t case the hard way. thanks in advance

No prob.. lemme know.

Did as much reading, research and common sense anylasis as I could stand and moved forward with some chicken bobbin' today. And guess what? I SUCK at it!!

If I had to do it over again:
- Have a helper to hold stuff in place while tacking.
- Cut the rear section in half or perhaps three pieces.

It's alllllllll about the fitment, I should'a thought to cut it up earlier and taken my time (had an appointment at 4pm so I rushed it a little). But, a valuable lesson learned :cool:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03783.jpg

Took 13" total out of the tail.
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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03788.jpg

Made the smooth section about 3/4" larger to cover better... smartest thing I did all day :rolleyes:
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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03792.jpg

I totally missed the bottom slant. Guess I'll high clearance it. :o I seem to remember Jh3 cutting a funky "joggle" out of his to make the slant match.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03794.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03797.jpg

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Car hauler :D
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC03801.jpg

Prolly should quit while I'm still ahead and scrap it all out!! :)

[*Darcy*]

i think it looks great!! once we olive drab that thing, no one will notice the lines not being perfect. :)

[Derka]

The bob looks good from here. It looks like you kept your lines pretty straight...How easy was it to keep a straight line with the sawzall? I was thinking about taking a cut off wheel to mine.

[GOT COPE?]

The bob looks good from here. It looks like you kept your lines pretty straight...How easy was it to keep a straight line with the sawzall? I was thinking about taking a cut off wheel to mine.

I used a cut off wheel, I would suggest trying a sawzall. The c/o wheel removes more material and makes errors more obvious (IMO) which makes it harder to line up and a bigger gap to weld.
Im saying if you're unsteady (innately or accidently) that c/o wheel is going to show it.
I think the sawzall would be more slightly more accurate and precise. I also think it would help to have someone hold the sides of the fenders steady as you get towards the end of the cut.

[misterzee]

The bob looks good from here. It looks like you kept your lines pretty straight...How easy was it to keep a straight line with the sawzall? I was thinking about taking a cut off wheel to mine.

:eek: I'm gonna leave mine where it is ! :eek:

[TRoss]

i think it looks great!! once we olive drab that thing, no one will notice the lines not being perfect. :)

Oh no, CR will be bright red!! :D

The bob looks good from here. It looks like you kept your lines pretty straight...How easy was it to keep a straight line with the sawzall? I was thinking about taking a cut off wheel to mine.

Actually, I used a CO wheel. Only used the SA on the very bottom pinch weld where it was hard to get to w/CO. It wasn't that hard to keep straight on the outsides, a little more difficult on the bed ridges.

I used a cut off wheel, I would suggest trying a sawzall. The c/o wheel removes more material and makes errors more obvious (IMO) which makes it harder to line up and a bigger gap to weld.
Im saying if you're unsteady (innately or accidently) that c/o wheel is going to show it.
I think the sawzall would be more slightly more accurate and precise. I also think it would help to have someone hold the sides of the fenders steady as you get towards the end of the cut.

I started to use the SA but it's so dang violent that I couldn't use it (hence, having a helper like you said). I did use a jig saw on one of the wheel well openings a long time ago (experimenting) and that worked out.

Again, I think another set of hands and putting it back together in smaller pieces would have been better. You ought to hang that tail piece for fitting 20 times by yur self. It ain't fun!!! :p

:eek: I'm gonna leave mine where it is ! :eek:

Smart man! ;)

Well, off to fuel aircraft in the snoooooooooowwwwwww!

[ATLRoach]

Looks good Ted! You going to bob tail it next?

[gregers05]

looks good to me ted. I wouldnt even high clearance it. i think even with the slant not matching up it looks good

[TRoss]

Looks good Ted! You going to bob tail it next?

Thanks Kyle! Assume you mean dovetail? IDK, yet. Narrowing was the original idea. Sheesh.. after that ordeal, I don't wanna cut and grind another piece of sheet metal again... for a while! ;)

looks good to me ted. I wouldnt even high clearance it. i think even with the slant not matching up it looks good

Yeah, I need to look it over again and see if there is a way I can modify the sheet metal to make it blend a little better. I really wish I'd paid a little closer attention to that part and cut it to fit the first time 'round. The earlier post I made of that red 4R is killer, I'd love to know how they did it.

Bottom line is the experience is worth it, some time and expendables that I already had on hand. Eventually I want to bob BR which will be much easier than the 4R. Unfortuanally, the Chicken Runner will prolly find it's way to the scrap yard eventually. The reality is: no way I can afford to build it up. :o

[ATLRoach]

Yes I meant dovetail it. Build it as time allows.

Put the cheapest and most reliable parts you can it. Look at Mercedes 300td swap. You can get one of those motors for cheap!

[TRoss]

Yes I meant dovetail it. Build it as time allows.

Put the cheapest and most reliable parts you can it. Look at Mercedes 300td swap. You can get one of those motors for cheap!

Now that'd be different. Could run JetA in it :D

[TRoss]

Haven't worked on the Chicken Runner.... too busy with other stuff, like putting BR back together.

Got the shake down run done about midnight last night. Work reeeeeallly nice.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/85%20Truck/DSC03802.jpg

Marlin even signed it.... in his own blood! :eek: That's gotta be worth a couple of horse power, right?
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/85%20Truck/DSC03803.jpg

[misterzee]

Haven't worked on the Chicken Runner.... too busy with other stuff, like putting BR back together.

Got the shake down run done about midnight last night. Work reeeeeallly nice.

Marlin even signed it.... in his own blood! :eek: That's gotta be worth a couple of horse power, right?


Very Very Nice! So, what's the configuration on your new tranny??

[TRoss]

Same one as before G54HD.

Tho it was a bummer to pull and send the MC unit back, it was a pleasure to deal with the guy. He was nothing but helpful and didn't charge me a penny. Only cost I had was shipping it out there.

Drove it to work this morning, works like a champ. No 2nd gear "snag" anymore and the broken clip was replaced so no more "floaters" in there. ;)

You should'a seen what I was drivin' while BR was down.... it was sad. An 89 Volvo wagon... pure granny car. :D

[the_slug]

You should'a seen what I was drivin' while BR was down.... it was sad. An 89 Volvo wagon... pure granny car. :D

But how was it off-road :lmao:

[TRoss]

But how was it off-road :lmao:

Not as good as the Subi ;)

[the_slug]

Not as good as the Subi ;)

lol

I am still interested in the bumpers if you have them. I just don't know when the time or money will be available.

IF:
1) no one else wants them
2) they are not in the way
can you set them aside? If not, I understand. My Runner looks pretty good (but I have a biased opinion of it, lol) except for the bumpers. Mine are bent up pretty bad.

[TRoss]

lol

I am still interested in the bumpers if you have them. I just don't know when the time or money will be available.

IF:
1) no one else wants them
2) they are not in the way
can you set them aside? If not, I understand. My Runner looks pretty good (but I have a biased opinion of it, lol) except for the bumpers. Mine are bent up pretty bad.

Only have the front, rear got trashed.
Your first in line, come get it. No worries on the $$
Not in the way, next time your on this side of the world swing by.

[misterzee]

Same one as before G54HD.

"HD = High Def"?? I just have a plain old W56 :(

[TRoss]

"HD = High Def"?? I just have a plain old W56 :(

Ha! U phunny.

Bah, ain't nothin special. It's just a G52 with a better bearing. I think the W56's are better.... IDK tho. It's what came in BR so I ran with it. A turbo tranny would be nice. ;)

[TRoss]

BR's re-massaged tranny works perfect and as a bonus I STRUCK OIL... No, wait... that's the mains seal leaking!!! :o

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gregers05]

BR's re-massaged tranny works perfect and as a bonus I STRUCK OIL... No, wait... that's the mains seal leaking!!! :o

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sweet! never can make a job too easy, it wouldnt be any fun!

reminds me of when i changed my clutch the first time. wouldnt shift when i put it back together, so i took it apart thinking i put something on wrong, and it ended up being a bad master cyl.:doh:

[TRoss]

sweet! never can make a job too easy, it wouldnt be any fun!

reminds me of when i changed my clutch the first time. wouldnt shift when i put it back together, so i took it apart thinking i put something on wrong, and it ended up being a bad master cyl.:doh:

Ya know, I had a milisecond thought to change that seal out while the tranny was... on vacation :rolleyes: But, being tight w/$ dictated my old moto: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[TRoss]

Well crap! Got the tranny out tonight to find it was the trans seal leaking. I never bothered to smell the goop coming out of it, just assumed it was engine oil - sure looked like it... (don't ask me how I missed that)

....anyway. The reason it took so long to get the tranny back in the first place was the shipper damaged it in transit back to me and was sent back to Marlin before it made it this far. I got it last Mon and installed and drove it till yesterday when I saw the leak.

I was never told what kind of damage the trans took in the shipping mishap. Only that it looked like the tote that it was in exploded. :rolleyes: whatevah. Marlin's ops manager said they went "all the way through it" again....

So a couple of questions:
1) Send back to Marlin (again) and have them fix it?
2) Try to replace the seal myself and hope it works?
3) Should I take the clutch and pplate out and brake clean them?
4) Replace the clutch?

Note: The clutch is not slipping and I don't think any gear oil got on the contact surfaces tho the pplate has a light film on the outside of it.

R&Ring 4x transmissions SUCK! I was just getting the crick out of my neck from last week!!!!!!! :mad:

[crawlrunner]

OMG!!!
1. yes, 2. no, 3. yes, 4. probably

Then Marlin should fly in an installer for the next install

[TRoss]

OMG!!!
1. yes, 2. no, 3. yes, 4. probably

Then Marlin should fly in an installer for the next install

I like the way you think Ed. Unfortunately, I have to get BR on the road and.... don't think Marlin would go for all that.

Anyway, called them this morning. The Ops manager was very apologetic and offered to send a new seal. Can't wait that long so the local stealership had a seal. Brake cleaned all the clutch peicy parts. Taking a break while they dry out. Sheesh, it's hot out already!!!

Good news is there was no gear dope on the clutch disc at all. The old seal had three nicks in it. I probably made one or two of them taking it apart.

When Ben get's home this evening we get to install it..... AGAIN!!

[TRoss]

Done! :xcrazy:
We'll see if it leaks.

And to think all this labor could'a gone into the Chicken Runner project... so hopefully, next post we'll be back on topic!! ;)

...arrg... my body hurts.

[TRoss]

Okay, the BR tranny is old news and working great so it's time to drag Ol" Chicken Runner out today (wow, is the weather nice or what!)

Did more cleaning and pressure washing. Had a massive red wasp nest in the head liner. Ended up wiping out the whole family... it's amazing, I killed the nest at the barn, brought the 4r down to the house and the few bees that were still "on patrol" found me. Nature is amazing!

Removed the head liner, pin striping, fuel door, fuel neck and misc parts. Took measurements to build a simple roll around "body dolly". Tired of loading it on the tractor back and forth to and from the barn. Gonna tuck it away in the basement and push it in and out when I wanna work on it... easy shmesy.

If anyone needs a 1st gen T4R fuel door and related filler parts lemme know. *FREE*
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04059.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04060.jpg

[nierema]

hey i need that door !!!!! am in Gainesville going to send you a pm do you have the key for it?

[cztheman64]

hey i need that door !!!!! am in Gainesville going to send you a pm do you have the key for it?

just make sure you paint it!

[ATLRoach]

Got a frame for old Chick Runner?

[TRoss]

Got a frame for old Chick Runner?

KR! What'cha been up to man?

Yeah, still got the original frame laying in the barn. You ought to build an FToy with the one you've got... give Marc a little competition. If I had any sense that's what I should be wasting my resources on. LOL

[TRoss]

Left over chicken parts... ;)
Cut out a section from the bob job left overs...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04063.jpg

Traced it out over the fuel door hole. Made some Sharpe references to center it up.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04066.jpg

Cut INSIDE the lines
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04065.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04067.jpg

TaDaaa...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04068.jpg

Was able to wedge some 1x4 pcs behind the square hole. I was going to weld in strips behind the edges but this worked out easier. The key is trim and fit and trim and file and fit and file and trim and fit and file and trim... you get the picture. :p
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04069.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04070.jpg

Tacked into place. I used a pc of brass stock behind the spot welds to help prevent blowing thru. Worked out good. It was also helpful to use a tiny flat blade screwdriver to help align the edges together nice and smooth.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04071.jpg

All in all not to bad. I don't know how the pro paint and body guys do it and make money at it. Sheesh! It's not perfect by any means but fun to do.

Gonna tackle the botched up bob-job mis-match on the bottom of the quarter panels next... I think I have a plan :eek:

[misterzee]

so.... how ya gonna get gas in it now? :confused:

[*Darcy*]

so.... how ya gonna get gas in it now? :confused:


i'm thinking he probably won't need to be putting gas in it for a LONG while :D :rofl:


http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04060.jpg

[misterzee]

.... um ... so ....
are you gonna use that rear-view-mirror? ... :o

[TRoss]

Puppy power. We're training Annie to be a sled dog :p
It's environmentally safe wheeling... just watch your step on the trail. :eek:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/TRoss5/86%204Runner/DSC04059.jpg

[1moreyota]

.... um ... so ....
are you gonna use that rear-view-mirror? ... :o

I got one if you need it...

[TRoss]

.... um ... so ....
are you gonna use that rear-view-mirror? ... :o

Prolly not... u want it? I think Chicken Runners future is one of the scrap yard.

Hey, you never did get these brake "gibblets" either... durn good excuse to come out and visit! Chris is not too far away from here either if this mirror is not in good enough condition for ya (the plastic is crispy).

[misterzee]

Well, since I haven't seen you since that serendipitous encounter up at Amicalola.... and I still have BR's battery bracket, and I know soon I need to butter you up for more wood...

[TRoss]

Just holla!

[misterzee]

:d

[TRoss]

i'm thinking he probably won't need to be putting gas in it for a LONG while :D :rofl:

...it's the sad truth :o :D

[nierema]

chop the top

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=950807

[TRoss]

That'd be sweet! But I'm afraid Chicken Runner is destine for the scrap heap.

[Yotaoffroad27]

I'm afraid Chicken Runner is destine for the scrap heap.

dang man, I like the direction this one was going!

[TRoss]

dang man, I like the direction this one was going!

Finish it for me!! :p

[Yotaoffroad27]

Finish it for me!! :p

psh.. I have a 4runner and 2 Tacomas that soak up most of my $$, and the GF gets whats left. I do like the Bob you had done on yours. Why are you scrapping it? new project?

[TRoss]

Too much time and money to finish. Learned lots of valuable lessons through the tear down process and booty fabin' and such. :D I'd love to build a dedicated trail rig... but that'll have to wait!!

My son has an FJ40 here at the house and then there's my old truck "BR" that always needs attention... :rolleyes:

[cztheman64]

aww man... if you had most of the parts for it, id take it off your hands. im looking for a truck that i can have as a "trail only rig"

[ATLRoach]

What happened to the ol' chicken runner?

[TRoss]

What happened to the ol' chicken runner?

Nothing yet.. I finally got an equip trailer so a trip to the scrap yard is finally high on the list. You need it? Say yes cause you neeeeeeed to wheel!! :D

[ATLRoach]

Maybe.. Still have the fenders, front clip and such?

[TRoss]

Not straight ones... a few hoods, a few rough fenders. All the inner fender and rad support is gone.

[TRoss]

Well the Chicken Runner has a new home. Josh (Lula Tacoma) is the proud new owner of this fabulous T4R. Hopefully he'll figure out how to get it on the trail cause I never could. Good luck and hope to see it finished soon.
:D :p ;) :eek:

[Lula Tacoma]

As you all know I have the "chicken" now. I would like to know what you would do about the frame.

one: SAS the 86 frame and bolt the body on.

two: use the 81 frame I just picked up, got a deal on it and it has the axles,leaf springs,push-pull steering parts and drive shafts still , move the body mounts around for the T4R body, and beef up the front spring hanger.

[ATLRoach]

As you all know I have the "chicken" now. I would like to know what you would do about the frame.

one: SAS the 86 frame and bolt the body on.

two: use the 81 frame I just picked up, got a deal on it and it has the axles,leaf springs,push-pull steering parts and drive shafts still , move the body mounts around for the T4R body, and beef up the front spring hanger.

I would choose 2 or section the the two frames together. The SFA frame has a higher frame arch that allows for a lower rig. That allows for more uptravel and keeping a relativity flat springs.

[86rocktoy]

bob the runner and use option #2

[Lula Tacoma]

The runner has already been bobbed, I will prop end up using the 81 frame, alot less cutting and i'll be able to keep it low. I think a RUF/chevy 63 swap may be a good starting point. Now I just got to save money and spend it on all the parts I'll need. Will a 5speed trans/tcase from a 3.0 truck fit behind a 22r with a bell housing swap? I may try to go with the 3.0 if I can find a harness to make it run, a buddy of mine grandfather has the motor, it has around 15k on a rebuild and a set of hot cams, I can get it on the cheap along with alot of other parts he stripped from a 90 pickup he totaled out.

[Lula Tacoma]

The chicken runner is starting to sound alot like Johnny Cash's caddy.

[the_slug]

The chicken runner is starting to sound alot like Johnny Cash's caddy.

Nice reference, lol. Not many will get that one.

[ATLRoach]

. Will a 5speed trans/tcase from a 3.0 truck fit behind a 22r with a bell housing swap? I may try to go with the 3.0 if I can find a harness to make it run, a buddy of mine grandfather has the motor, it has around 15k on a rebuild and a set of hot cams, I can get it on the cheap along with alot of other parts he stripped from a 90 pickup he totaled out.

The R150 will not bolt up to a 22re w/o a R151 bellhousing which are like hen's teeth to find. Also 3VZ harness and ECU should be easy to find since a lot of people pull them for motor swaps. 3vz is far from a good motor but if you can get it cheap on a rebuild it might be a viable option. 1UZ is another since it only weights about 50-75lbs more than a 22re with 100 more hp. Also while you are getting parts from the 90 if you choose grab the IFS V6 rear axle.

[Lula Tacoma]

CHEAP and the fact it is low miles is the only reasons I am thinking about the 3.0. I may hold out to find a 22r I can run off of pane. I am wanting to keep this thing low buget and simple. The axle was messed up in the crash, along with the whole side of the truck, his grandfather lives in the MTNs and hit the wall of rock beside the road up there.