Score class 7s rules?

[YoTRacer158]

Can anyone give me a quick version of the rules and regs for the 7s class? What can/cant you have and what do you need to have?

[rojodiablo]

Mandatory: rollcage, seats/ harnesses, fuel cell, rear lights. Options: LT, 3 link, new rear axle, no wider than??80" or so. Engine mods, no SC. Check out Score-international for the specific rules.

[YoTRacer158]

damn I was hoping a charger wasnt on the list of no-no's...I'm planning on buying a rulebook, just wanted a brief version of what to expect

[Half Baked Taco]

yeah, the charger would be a no-no ....I don't even think they let those in the sportsmen unlimited class. If you want to view the BITD rules they have it on their website. I know it's different then SCORE, but it should give you a brief explanation on certain criterias.

For example...

"Front and rear suspensions must be of the same manufacturer, shape, size and configuration as originally produced and installed on the chassis to which it is attached. All suspension components except shock absorbers and rear leaf springs will remain in the original stock locations with original stock mounting methods maintained. All components with the exception of the shock absorbers must be original manufacturer’s design."

"Maximum rear spring length is equal to the longest manufacturer’s stock production rear spring as delivered on a mini or mid-sized pickup. Rear springs must be mounted in the original stock mounting method (under frame, side of frame). Frame may not be modified. Springs may be mounted above or below the axle. Spring rates and capacities are open. Two single point rear differential anti-wrap bars may be used. Rear wheel travel limit is open. "

It starts on page 79 of their rulebook

[YoTRacer158]

so you can't use longer than stock length leaves in the rear?

[Half Baked Taco]

Don't qoute me.... but I think it goes off the longest production spring available for that truck. You must use the stock shackle and spring length. I'm probably wrong and the rule book would be a good investment to get expecially if you're going to be building to specs.

Why not ask Donahoe even though he raced 7 open? He's raced every other class so I'm sure he just has to reach back further to remember his 7s days lol :D

[Tweeter]

whatcha thinking about doing yotracer?

[Half Baked Taco]

yeah, good question. If you're going w/ the cantilevar set up I'm assuming this is going on a Daily Driver that is keeping the bed? Can't you do MDR specs and race 1450 for fun? It's a sportsman class that will allow you to run the Charger......

[rojodiablo]

For stock mini, you must use the stock arms, and stock size rear leafs. For CLASS7, you can go up to LT, longer rear leafs or 3 link setup. MORE and MDR I believe have some classes where the SC is legal, but not yet in SCORE. The specs on the rollcages for Score have changed, depending on weight of vehicle.

[YoTRacer158]

whatcha thinking about doing yotracer?

Just a little "project" I'm trying to put together...so far, things are going a lot better than I thought they would. If I can actually get this thing rolling, everyone will know about it. :D

[YoTRacer158]

yeah, good question. If you're going w/ the cantilevar set up I'm assuming this is going on a Daily Driver that is keeping the bed? Can't you do MDR specs and race 1450 for fun? It's a sportsman class that will allow you to run the Charger......

My truck is my daily driver/weekend warrior, I still owe too much on it to race it for now. I'm gonna pick up a beater Tacoma for this project

[Half Baked Taco]

sweet. Should be lots of fun. If you jump up to Class 7 Open.....you got Donahoe's 7 truck or Shroom's sister truck in the Long Beach Racers 7 open http://www.longbeachracers.com/truck.asp

Are you considering running a S/C....cause there's 1450 at MDR and MORE?

Damn! Almost forgot you can even run Class 7 MDR/ MORE against Barry Barakas and his Northridge sponsored Tacoma :D

[YoTRacer158]

For stock mini, you must use the stock arms, and stock size rear leafs. For CLASS7, you can go up to LT, longer rear leafs or 3 link setup. MORE and MDR I believe have some classes where the SC is legal, but not yet in SCORE. The specs on the rollcages for Score have changed, depending on weight of vehicle.

Got this info from AJ @ true offroad:

First off, anything with bigger than a 3.0 is now considered a 7sx, 7s trucks
are 3.0 and smaller. Otherwise rules are the same. Major problems were the
rear springs (7s,sx rules spec max. of 57" long), I think that the arms have
to remain stock in 7s,sx; while in open the only rules are original design
(a-arms, i-beams, so on) and a max width, like 74" or something. Drews truck is too wide. Some guy is running a TC kit on a truck with mega backspaced wheels and like 33x10.5's to keep it within width. There are a few other things too. I dont have a copy handy, there is probably one somewhere tho.

[YoTRacer158]

I'm actually getting the LT kit for my truck from shroom...the suspension for the race truck is already taken care of if we can get the project started. If we can get it started, everyone will be hearing a LOT more about this.

[Half Baked Taco]

Well hell they say! That's some good news. I know the DD/ weekend warrior will be cool with the TC set up......Good luck with the race truck and will be eager to hear some news in the near future. This grass roots racing thing always gets me stoked and it's bitchen to hear a TTORA member get into the racing aspect :kewl:

[Tweeter]

Um...hate to break it to ya...but uh...Chris Solis is getting my TC kit powdercoated as we speak, I'm picking it up in a few days...

[Half Baked Taco]

Niiiice! It's like a Total Chaos fiesta up in here. Are they a paid sponsor of this site yet? LOL j/k :D

[Tweeter]

Niiiice! It's like a Total Chaos fiesta up in here. Are they a paid sponsor of this site yet? LOL j/k :D

Seriously...

[Baja Belk]

From the rulebook:

"Class 7S - Stock production - Mini pickups. Definition - Vehicles built from a 2 wheel or 4 wheel drive mini or mid-sized pickup having a maximum stock wheelbase of 127". Engine maximum size must not exceed 3000cc. Vehicle must have been series produced in quantities of at least 5000 units within a 12 month period and be readily available to the gerneal public in the U.S.A. Vehicle must be marketed as mini or mid-sized pickups. Note: Class 7S and Class 7SX may be combined after a one year review of entries.

Suspension components:

Spindles may be of any manufacturer and may be reinforced. Front and rear suspension must be of the same manufacture, shape, size and configuration as originally produced and installed on the chassis to which it is mounted. All suspension components except shock absorbers and rear leaf springs will remain in the original stock locations and original stock mounting methods maintatained. All components will be original manufacturers design with the exception of the shock absorbers.
A-arms, I-beams, and front axles must remain stock as delivered on the chassis to which it is mounted. Parts may be strengthened by adding material but must remain stock shape, size and configuration as delivered from the manufacturer. Stock pivot point locations must be retained. Mounting points may be strengthened. Ball joints may be of any manufacturer. Front springs must remain in stock locations and retain original stock concept (leaf, coil, torsion). Rates and capacities of springs are open.
Rear springs may be lengthened to equal that of the longest stock production rear leaf spring as delivered by the manufacturer on a mini or mid-sized pickup. As of now the legal maximum length is 57.5". If a manufacturer produces a longer spring than the one that is delivered on your vehicle you may increase your spring length to the same as that spring as long as they are mounted in the original stock manner (under frame, side of frame) and frame is not modified. Spring may be mounted above or below axle. Rates and capacities of springs open. Two single point anti-wrap up bars may be used on the rear differential. Stock front and rear track width must be retained +/- 2". Stock sway bars may be removed. All suspension components must be retained except for those allowed to be removed above. Front wheel travel limited to 12 inches."

K I type fast but not fast enough to write the rest. PM me if you have any specific questions or if you're in SD swing by and I'll give you the rule book (2003-2007).

[Baja Belk]

Niiiice! It's like a Total Chaos fiesta up in here. Are they a paid sponsor of this site yet? LOL j/k :D

Nope, Nicole doesn't even look at any forums, something I respect of that company. There's a couple companies who in my opinion lose a lot of respect by shitting on other companies through the internet. But let's not get into that...

[Baja Belk]

Mandatory: rollcage, seats/ harnesses, fuel cell, rear lights. Options: LT, 3 link, new rear axle, no wider than??80" or so. Engine mods, no SC. Check out Score-international for the specific rules.

Paul I think you're thinking of Class 7 OPEN, like Barry K's truck or Hector Salazar's former-ESPN Radio truck. Pretty much a smaller version of the Class 8. 500 hp motors, gobs of travel, $15,000 rear ends, and so on and so forth. 7S is alot more restricted.

[rojodiablo]

Paul I think you're thinking of Class 7 OPEN, like Barry K's truck or Hector Salazar's former-ESPN Radio truck. Pretty much a smaller version of the Class 8. 500 hp motors, gobs of travel, $15,000 rear ends, and so on and so forth. 7S is alot more restricted.
Yeah, wrong class 7. OOps. Anyway, what they said. Fake, reinforced stockity stock is the deal. But, more likely to finish in many cases than the built trucks.....

[DesertTRD]

Can anyone give me a quick version of the rules and regs for the 7s class? What can/cant you have and what do you need to have?
i would invest in a score official rule book, one thing to remember is the new inspection rules...

[YoTRacer158]

yeah I'll pick one up when I get back to the states

[shroom27]

sweet. Should be lots of fun. If you jump up to Class 7 Open.....you got Donahoe's 7 truck or Shroom's sister truck in the Long Beach Racers 7 open http://www.longbeachracers.com/truck.asp

Are you considering running a S/C....cause there's 1450 at MDR and MORE?

Damn! Almost forgot you can even run Class 7 MDR/ MORE against Barry Barakas and his Northridge sponsored Tacoma :D


fyi - The Long Beach Racers truck owned by Ted/Nick Moncure is a 7s and not 7 open.

[YoTRacer158]

fyi - The Long Beach Racers truck owned by Ted/Nick Moncure is a 7s and not 7 open.

hey dude thanks for saying you'd sell me your TC kit when you got back from baja and then sell it to someone else after I go out and buy the coilovers, glas, and all the missing shit from your kit...that was really cool

[shroom27]

sorry man...I lost track since so many people originally flaked out on it and then after Baja I never got a call from you. I might be able to get you a deal direct from Camburg since they are one of my sponsors...the limit straps, brake lines & shocks etc. would work with their kit as well.

And if you wanted to race, you'd have to do in MDR/MORE Sportsman class since the aftermarket a-arms/62" deavers are not 7s legal and you can't run 7 open either because of forced induction.

[Half Baked Taco]

fyi - The Long Beach Racers truck owned by Ted/Nick Moncure is a 7s and not 7 open.

oops. With that much sponsorship I assumed they were a 7 Open running against the likes of BK. Thanks for the clarification.

[YoTRacer158]

And if you wanted to race, you'd have to do in MDR/MORE Sportsman class since the aftermarket a-arms/62" deavers are not 7s legal and you can't run 7 open either because of forced induction.

I'm not racing my truck and the race truck wont be blown...looks like we'll be in 7 open if we can get it going