costs for sAS

[yodaworxs]

whats the average price range people are spending on a SAS conversion i have a 6" IFS lift right now but i wanna go 6" with an SA.

[Mike]

whats the average price range people are spending on a SAS conversion i have a 6" IFS lift right now but i wanna go 6" with an SA.

There are too many variables. Can you do all the work yourself?

Later,
....Mike

[AngryAndy]

[QUOTE=yodaworxs]whats the average price range people are spending on a SAS conversion i have a 6" IFS lift right now but i wanna go 6" with an SA.

Oppositeboy has a price list, but keep in mind, prices might have changed since he built his rig...that was about 2 years ago. Scroll down the page and you will see links to price lists...

And Mike is exactly correct, those prices assume your doing all the fabrication yourself.....

http://www.norcalttora.com/~brian/Taco/SAS/index.htm

[Brain]

Here is my price list for when I first did my swap. I saved a bit of money and time by buying a package deal from a friend but you can easily do it cheaper if you can make parts yourself (ie. spring hangars, shackle hangars, new front crossmember, shackles). Also note that I included sliders in that package. If you want to know why, I have no idea :D

http://wwww.norcalttora.com/~reynolds/solid%20axle%20swap/SASpricesheet.jpg

[gary briggs]

6 grand wow, i was hoping to do a swap for around 4000, i can fab alot of stuff at work, and have a buddy install my gears, but that would still put me way over 4000

[Squigly]

whats the average price range people are spending on a SAS conversion i have a 6" IFS lift right now but i wanna go 6" with an SA.

It depends how built you want your axle for wheeling. Heres my price list as I have posted too many times already......I need to put the part numbers on there someday.

Anthonys solid axle pricing

.....items purchased

1) flat top knuckles $20.00 Pick n Pull 1/2 price day
2)........item sold ---------- ---------------------------
3)Toyota T-100 oil pan and misc stuff $275.00 Antioch Toyota
4)Toyota IFS steering box $175.00 Marlin Crawler
5)IFS steering box pitman arm $75.00 Parts Mike
6) tre's and dle's $139.00 Parts Mike
7) 63" Chevy springs $80.00 Pickn'Pull
8 ) 63" Chevy spring front hangers $55.00 Marlin Crawler (wrong hangers)
9) front axle spring perches $45.00 Marlin Crawler
10 )dana 44 axle $250.00 PicknPull (Richmond)
11) grease gun,orange hand cleaner etc $100 Monument carparts
12) PartsMike balljoints $87.90 PartsMike
13) super arms kit $250.00 PartsMike
14) labor to mill,drill tap knuckle $60.00 PartsMike
15) spindle studs and nuts $12.95 PartsMike
16) shipping of knuckles $40.00 PartsMike
17) band aids and neosporin after dropping axle on toe Safeway
18) beer after dropping axle on toe $17.00 Safeway
19)POR hardnose paint and chasis black $150.00 P0R15
20) Warn premium hubs $60.00
21) AOR u-bolt flip kit $75.00 AOR
22) balljoint/u-joint press $45.00 Harbor Freight
23) Crane diff cover $210.00
24) Steering stabalizer $100.00 Marlin Crawler
25) ARB air locker $765.34 Central 4wd
26)ARB air compresor $219.09 Central 4w
27) Toyota to dana 44 flange $ 109.00 high angle driveline
28) Fox remote reservoir shocks $400.00 AOR
29) loaded brake calipers,wheel bearings 348.00 NAPA
30)U-BOLTS $52.00
31) bearing packer,grease,new races $75.00 Napa
32)Toyota Tacoma Dorman studs $32.00 Napa
33) Teflon coated brake line set $90.00 extreme crawlers
34)Ox u-joints $240 PartsMike
35)Warn axle shafts $620 PartsMike
36) Marlin front 4" lift springs $369 Marlin Crawler
37) 36X13.50 IROKS $1000 4 WHEELPARTS
38)new rims $245
39)axle regear $635 4wd specialties
40) olis,fluids,rags $175
41) Pro Comp Chevy aal's $75.00 Summit

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...mother f'er whoa! $7074

[BigBro]

Yeow!!! For 7+ g, I can break a lot of IFS crap!!!

[Timbuddha]

Yes, but can you drive to the Hammers, wheel all day long and get it back home? I'd be willing to bet you wouldn't make it up the first obstacle without taking both front CVs. SASing is so that you can wheel extreme trails and still be able to drive home at the end of the day. If you aren't going to wheel anything harder than say Big Bear, you don't need to SAS your rig. :)

Tim

[AngryAndy]

Yes, but can you drive to the Hammers, wheel all day long and get it back home? I'd be willing to bet you wouldn't make it up the first obstacle without taking both front CVs. SASing is so that you can wheel extreme trails and still be able to drive home at the end of the day. If you aren't going to wheel anything harder than say Big Bear, you don't need to SAS your rig. :)

Tim

Hell, I take it a step further...

If you have NOT broken your IFS yet, you DONT need a solid axle.

People need to learn their rig, as well as their OWN capabilities BEFORE they go for a solid axle.

Not only that, but a solid axle truck is a LOT of work. Maintanance...custom fabrication.....constant changing of minor things....its a neverending battle. Worth it though; if you keep up on it....

But there will ALWAYS be that little something that breaks at JUST the wrong point in time.

[thebeast8888]

Yeow!!! For 7+ g, I can break a lot of IFS crap!!!

or buy an 85...just another thought

[zszac111]

a whole fawking lot. the axle is the cheapest part of the equation, then if your asking you more than likely dont have the skills to do it correctly (dont take offence if you do have the skillz :D ), which means adding $$$ for labor. but just for a reference point, i had around 8500 in parts in my first swap, and i made a whole shit load of the stuff that was on the truck.

[Bear]

Basically it is like going to fancy restrauant that does not have prices on the menu…If you have to ask how much the food cost…you can't afford it!

But on the other foot, think about it this way, if you are thinking of doing a drop down bracket lift, and then later possibly still doing a SAS. you will spend twice the same amount. Meaning a drop bracket lift cost roughly $1500–$2000 if not more after labor. Okay you spend that! then you decide to do a SAS. you wasted that original $1500-$2000 and you still have to collect parts for SAS.

In the end you have to ask yourself "Are you really ready/willing to drop any of that amount just to gain those six inches?"

If you wheel hard and am already breaking on a regular basis just skip the IFS lift and go SAS. you will save in the long run, but will pay more if you don't have the skills to do it yourself.

Ultimately it will still be your call either way. I am doing my SAS right now, I started collecting even before I started breaking things, but I knew I would be wheeling harder and harder. and since I didn't want to feel like I was going to be wasting money,I skipped the drop bracket step. I know I am going to be much happier in the long run! I just need to figure out where I want to cut things to get back down to just 6" of lift! LOL

[Miguel]

Anthonys solid axle


17) band aids and neosporin after dropping axle on toe Safeway
18) beer after dropping axle on toe $17.00 Safeway




LOL! Should all of us factor that into our SAS? Laf. :D

~Miguel

[Bear]

I have even heard reports on when doing a SAS the person had an additional $500 fee not anticipated… the ambulance fee for taking them to the hospital. :rofl:

Hopefully I won't find out how much the fire department charges until after I finish with the welder. :welder:

[yogiaz]

If you can do all the work yourself. You can do a Dana 44 swap for about $3500. That hysteer, arb, gears, toyota yoke, new knuckles, yadda yadda yadda. Now if you have to buy wheels, tires, and lift your rear too then you are looking at alot more.

Yogi

whats the average price range people are spending on a SAS conversion i have a 6" IFS lift right now but i wanna go 6" with an SA.

[96 runner]

i'am new on this board and all i have to say is stop trying to scare the poor guy. i figured out my cost if i do the work my self i will be maybe 2500 canadian. And u guys will read the and won't belieave that i even mite be able to do it cheaper. all i have to say is free front axles r the best.

[Brain]

i'am new on this board and all i have to say is stop trying to scare the poor guy. i figured out my cost if i do the work my self i will be maybe 2500 canadian. And u guys will read the and won't belieave that i even mite be able to do it cheaper. all i have to say is free front axles r the best.

Trust me, I don't really think anyone was trying to scare him. We were just giving him real live feedback on our real live experiences. If you can do the swap for 2500 canadian, good for you. Not everyone can fabricate parts themselves or get free axles so take your "stop trying to scare the guy" away and let him figure it out himself.

[awsumdc]

i'am new on this board and all i have to say is stop trying to scare the poor guy. i figured out my cost if i do the work my self i will be maybe 2500 canadian. And u guys will read the and won't belieave that i even mite be able to do it cheaper. all i have to say is free front axles r the best.
I'd love to see that swap. Now I know that my swap is way on the extreme side, however, all the other guys that responded on here have taken the time to research, buy parts that were inexpensive and build them up themselves and fab alot of the stuff them selves and it cost more than 2500 U.S. They spent the time to do it right. Don't give the guy the false impression that it's cheap and easy to SAS a Tacoma. It's hard work and it's gonna cost!

The last time I saw someone get something for free for their SAS it was a piece of s--t that needed to be replaced. Don't send the guy off on the wrong track. To do it right, it's gonna cost.

[DrVic@BallisticFab]

I'll bet 95% of everyone who got a junker D44 and put it right in has since replaced enough parts that if they had to do it again... would do it differently.

[Bear]

You can pretty much count on this next statement: There is no such thing as a free part when it comes to SAC/SAS'n a truck!

as mentioned before, junk parts will soon need to be replaced or repaired frequently.

The credo pretty much adopted here is this…Do it right the first time, do it once. that means buy quality parts to begin with and you will have far less headaches in the future. and with that comes a price tag and it is normally a pretty one!

[Fullsizeyota]

you guys are spendin WAY too much money :eek:

we did a SAS on a 86 4runner....

4 used all pro springs, flexy and squashy- perfect 250
u-bolts 50
brakes, rotors 250
crossmember was WAY over built 15-if that
new spring bushings 30
marlin high steer, arms tie-rod 400
new shocks 50
front driveshaft 300
knuckle rebuild kit 80
spring plates from RL 30

total 1455.....

we did all the work our selves, shopped around for the springs, that was a killer deal...

the springs and the spring bushings were also used on the back, making the back extremely cheap to lift.....

20 for spring perches, 50 for u-bolts, 30 for spring plates-also did the u-bolt flip at the same time..

100 bucks to lift the rear..

granted, this wasnt a taco, so we didnt change the oil pan or any of that other junk.. but i think this is totally reasonable

[Paul]

It's more expensive on Tacomas.

[beat taco]

you guys are spendin WAY too much money :eek:

we did a SAS on a 86 4runner....

4 used all pro springs, flexy and squashy- perfect 250
u-bolts 50
brakes, rotors 250
crossmember was WAY over built 15-if that
new spring bushings 30
marlin high steer, arms tie-rod 400
new shocks 50
front driveshaft 300
knuckle rebuild kit 80
spring plates from RL 30

total 1455.....

we did all the work our selves, shopped around for the springs, that was a killer deal...

the springs and the spring bushings were also used on the back, making the back extremely cheap to lift.....

20 for spring perches, 50 for u-bolts, 30 for spring plates-also did the u-bolt flip at the same time..

100 bucks to lift the rear..

granted, this wasnt a taco, so we didnt change the oil pan or any of that other junk.. but i think this is totally reasonable


was your axle free? we need steering boxes too, but anyways this thread blows!! it costs what you spend to get what you want. putting two grand into an axle is not unreasonable, i understand not everyone has gone this route. i have $270 in c's, lol.

[Fullsizeyota]

the axle was 200 bucks... i should have mentioned that....

are taco box's different from the 86-?? IFS box??? the truck we did it on was an 86, so it had the right box...

he did the ARB, thats a lot, but very nice...

i guess i was just kinda surprised to see that much spent.... i guess your going to end up with all that junk anyway, ARB, gears etc, just kinda surprised me

[Paul]

are taco box's different from the 86-?? IFS box???

Tacomas use rack and pinion steering.

[taco2486]

I totally agree if u dont do hard wheeling stay with the IFS but ur not gonna wun any flex compitions with it but if ur going to places to wheel hard like tellico and hot springs and places like that i would reccommend SAS trust me my IFS suck trying slick rock i almost fliped a couple of times so i backed down and got off but i already have the 6" IFS lift and a 3" body so all i have to do is find springs in the front to match the rear in lift. and i had it quoted by a couple of 4x4 shops in the area were i live and they all were saying right around 5Gs for all of it labor and everything and the said 3Gs in labor if i brought them all the parts so u do the math just think about how much u wheel and stuff like that

[padesertboy]

bababooey......

my 2 friends can do a swap in a weekend, maybe a day-if all the parts are there.
They do it for $500 & beer. Just make sure you got all yer parts. Doing mine soon...

[awsumdc]

bababooey......

my 2 friends can do a swap in a weekend, maybe a day-if all the parts are there.
They do it for $500 & beer. Just make sure you got all yer parts. Doing mine soon...
Would love to see THAT swap when it's done :eek:
:rofl: I've only seen AJ do that with any success, and I'm sure it was for way more than $500 and beer.

[02tacotim]

bababooey......

my 2 friends can do a swap in a weekend, maybe a day-if all the parts are there.
They do it for $500 & beer. Just make sure you got all yer parts. Doing mine soon...

Where are "your friends" located? I'll buy another Taco just to have a second Tacoma with a solid axle if they can do it that quick. Must be magic..........

Tim

[DirtyDC05]

If I wanted a taco with sas would it be cheaper to buy a 2wd taco to start with? Instead of paying the xtra cost for ifs 4x4 that i dont want?

[GORDO]

If I wanted a taco with sas would it be cheaper to buy a 2wd taco to start with? Instead of paying the xtra cost for ifs 4x4 that i dont want?


You will need to swap transmissions and get a transfercase...$$$...

[DirtyDC05]

so wouldnt that still be less expensive than buying a 4x4 then trashing all the unusable components for the sas?

[Paul]

You also need a new rear axle. A lot people have built older 2wd Toyota pickups rather than the 4x4's on Pirate.