Started my sliders [Archive]

OR_05Taco

12-18-2005, 04:49 PM

Well I got the brackets cut and the legs that weld to the brackets cut this morning. Laid out the brackets to punch the slotted holes and *no power* :( . Apparently the main power box to the shop and iron worker is getting re-wired and won't be done til' tomorrow...oh well. Anyway, I made the brackets out of some 6x6x5/16 angle iron and cut it down to 6x2 1/2 with each bracket being 3 inches wide. The "legs" that go from the bracket to the first runner on the sliders are 1.75x1.75x.120 square, which is what the first runner will be also. Each leg is 6 inches long, which will place the first runner right under the seam of the body/rocker panel. The outer runner is going to be either 1.75x.120 round or 1 1/4 ASTM A53B sch40 (still reading and learning and debating that whole thing). I am undecided as of yet whether the legs that go from the first runner to the outside runner will be sqaure or round. Any opinions? I know I want the outer runner round, but other than that I think I may make the rest square. Let me know what you guys think will look better and any feedback on the rest is appreciated too!

Pics of the brackets and legs are at:
http://photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/

:saw: :welder:

Brandon

12-18-2005, 08:48 PM

I wish I had your shop and stock pile of materials.

NorcalPR

12-18-2005, 08:59 PM

Nice! I'm hoping to start my sliders sometime next year.

-Phill

ripkinC

12-19-2005, 02:00 AM

Nice! I'm hoping to start my sliders sometime next year.

-Phill
Ha Ha, I am too (seriously) I just need: the metal, proper cutting, bending, gringing eqpt. oh and mustn't we forget... WELDER
oh well holding off a lil longer, but friend may be giting a real nice Mig soon :) Weld for bear!

TBob

12-19-2005, 08:14 AM

I don't know about 05's but on earlier Tacoma's the legs are not all the same length (frame tappers). Did you measure first of Just assume they would all be the same length?

Well I got the brackets cut and the legs that weld to the brackets cut this morning. Laid out the brackets to punch the slotted holes and *no power* :( . Apparently the main power box to the shop and iron worker is getting re-wired and won't be done til' tomorrow...oh well. Anyway, I made the brackets out of some 6x6x5/16 angle iron and cut it down to 6x2 1/2 with each bracket being 3 inches wide. The "legs" that go from the bracket to the first runner on the sliders are 1.75x1.75x.120 square, which is what the first runner will be also. Each leg is 6 inches long, which will place the first runner right under the seam of the body/rocker panel. The outer runner is going to be either 1.75x.120 round or 1 1/4 ASTM A53B sch40 (still reading and learning and debating that whole thing). I am undecided as of yet whether the legs that go from the first runner to the outside runner will be sqaure or round. Any opinions? I know I want the outer runner round, but other than that I think I may make the rest square. Let me know what you guys think will look better and any feedback on the rest is appreciated too!

Pics of the brackets and legs are at:
http://photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/

:saw: :welder:

OR_05Taco

12-19-2005, 04:39 PM

I don't know about 05's but on earlier Tacoma's the legs are not all the same length (frame tappers). Did you measure first of Just assume they would all be the same length?

Nope, didn't assume... never assume!! :D On the 05's they're all the same length. Check out this guys pics of his install of the Demello sliders for the '05 and you can see: http://homepage.mac.com/jbryan/PhotoAlbum13.html

TBob

12-20-2005, 08:05 AM

good deal - just wanted to give a heads up if one was needed, I've see others on earlier models cut em all the same length.

Nope, didn't assume... never assume!! :D On the 05's they're all the same length. Check out this guys pics of his install of the Demello sliders for the '05 and you can see: http://homepage.mac.com/jbryan/PhotoAlbum13.html

OR_05Taco

12-20-2005, 05:38 PM

good deal - just wanted to give a heads up if one was needed, I've see others on earlier models cut em all the same length.

Thanks for the heads up, I do appreciate it. I made sure to measure before I cut, and from the front to the back I think there was a difference of about 1/16" from the frame to the seam on the rocker panel.

OR_05Taco

12-20-2005, 06:01 PM

Well I got the 9/16 x 1 1/2 and the 9/16 x 3/4 slotted holes punched in the brackets. I then cut some 3x2x3/16 angle and cut the 3" side at an angle. These I welded to the bracket and leg as a gusset... probably a little overkill but oh well. So, all the brackets and legs are welded together. Gonna bolt them up to the frame and get the first runner done hopefully on friday or saturday. Maybe even have them all done minus paint by then but I doubt it. There will be 1 3/8" of clearance between the rocker panel seam and the first runner, which will be directly under the seam. I'm happy with how they're coming along so far. :cool:

Check out the pics, lemme know what you guys think.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/

:welder: :saw: :welder:

STOMPER

12-21-2005, 07:55 PM

I don't know about 05's but on earlier Tacoma's the legs are not all the same length (frame tappers). Did you measure first of Just assume they would all be the same length?

What years are you talking about? All of the ones I have done where the same. I built sliders for Tacomas from 99-04 .

taco502

12-23-2005, 11:21 AM

is your family's shop in Salem?

OR_05Taco

12-23-2005, 03:35 PM

Yup, it sure is. I'm workin' there part-time while I'm finishing school.

OR_05Taco

01-01-2006, 07:44 PM

Well, I finally got around to workin on these damn sliders a little more. I bent up the 1.75 x .120 round, went with sixty degree bends six feet apart. That spacing should match up just right when they are spaced away from the seven foot runner of 1.75 x .120 square. Anyway, I'm having some problems with the tubing deforming when I bend it. The bender I'm using is an EZEBEND model 5000 (I think thats the model from lookin at the pics on the webpage). It can be seen here: http://www.ezebend.com/ . I'm using the right size dies and everything...don't really know why the tubing is deforming. It's not horrible and I don't mind a little deforming for the sliders but I'm thinking about building my own front bumper too and I dont want deformed tubing on display on my bumper. On the 1.75 round, if you look at the bend from the top I would say it probably deformed the tubing to 1.5. Does anyone have any tips to keep this from happening?? Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks guys. :xbeer1:

TacomaNova

01-01-2006, 09:13 PM

i have never messed with bending tubing... but i though someone told me to put sand in the tube before you bend it... i could be wrong though

OR_05Taco

01-01-2006, 09:37 PM

i have never messed with bending tubing... but i though someone told me to put sand in the tube before you bend it... i could be wrong though

I have heard that too, but always thought it was a way to get cheap benders to bend well. The bender I'm using is supposed to be a pretty nice one, so I wouldn't think that it would be necessary to fill the tube with sand...? I really don't know though, I'm pretty new to the tube bending thing. :confused: :confused: :confused:
Tips anyone?

OR_05Taco

01-02-2006, 08:08 PM

NorcalPR

01-02-2006, 10:04 PM

OR_05Taco

01-02-2006, 10:24 PM

Wow. Very nice!!!!!!!! When I do mine I think I'm going to do it cheaply and come straight out. (not up like yours). Comming up through does look A LOT nicer!

I'm assuming they are going to be bolt on? Not being a smart ass, but how are they going to bolt on? I'm stuck on that step for my sliders.

-Phill

Thanks.
Straight out is cool too, I just prefer the look of the angled up style.
Yep, they will be bolt on. I don't really know what is stronger and I don't care to have that whole debate, I just don't want to weld to my 05 frame. Don't really know how to explain HOW they will bolt on....with bolts? :D My frame brackets are 6x2 1/2x5/16 angle that contacts the whole frame. Each bracket will have two bolts, one on the side and one on the bottom (four brackets per slider). My frame is a C channel though. Since yours is a '99 then I would go with the U bracket style. On the 05s there are existing frame holes that work perfect for bolting on sliders (don't know about older tacos??).

NorcalPR

01-02-2006, 10:44 PM

OR_05Taco

01-02-2006, 11:01 PM

Ah, I see. I was wondering, How the hell would he bolt those on! Mine is just a big rectangle.

So what do you think is a good way to bolt mine on? Lets say 0 is the frame. The top is the top closest to the cab, bottom is closest to the ground...

CO or

0
U

I know it's horrible! But you kinda get the idea. I'm assuming just drill through the frame on both sides and throw a bolt on it?

With your boxed frame I would go with the same style bracket as Dick's: http://www.tacomaterritory.com/~dickfoster/Pics/Dicks_Sliders.PDF

Which, the way you were trying to describe it would be:
0 <----frame
U <----bracket
I believe the way to bolt those style brackets would be to drill all the way through your bracket and frame and put bolts clear through.

NorcalPR

01-02-2006, 11:12 PM

I was looking for something like that. I like that design a lot. Thanks!

I'll probably start mine in the spring or so...

-Phill

TBob

01-03-2006, 10:41 AM

My 03 was not and I have heard the same from others.

What years are you talking about? All of the ones I have done where the same. I built sliders for Tacomas from 99-04 .

bray

01-04-2006, 03:10 AM

I have heard that too, but always thought it was a way to get cheap benders to bend well. The bender I'm using is supposed to be a pretty nice one, so I wouldn't think that it would be necessary to fill the tube with sand...? I really don't know though, I'm pretty new to the tube bending thing. :confused: :confused: :confused:
Tips anyone?

I've heard some say fill tubes with sand when they have a cheap tube bender but mostly a pipe bender trying to bend tube. It still doesn't always work though.
Your sliders look good by-the-way! Bray

thebeast8888

01-04-2006, 03:41 AM

:eek: Well I got the brackets cut and the legs that weld to the brackets cut this morning. Laid out the brackets to punch the slotted holes and *no power* :( . Apparently the main power box to the shop and iron worker is getting re-wired and won't be done til' tomorrow...oh well. Anyway, I made the brackets out of some 6x6x5/16 angle iron and cut it down to 6x2 1/2 with each bracket being 3 inches wide. The "legs" that go from the bracket to the first runner on the sliders are 1.75x1.75x.120 square, which is what the first runner will be also. Each leg is 6 inches long, which will place the first runner right under the seam of the body/rocker panel. The outer runner is going to be either 1.75x.120 round or 1 1/4 ASTM A53B sch40 (still reading and learning and debating that whole thing). I am undecided as of yet whether the legs that go from the first runner to the outside runner will be sqaure or round. Any opinions? I know I want the outer runner round, but other than that I think I may make the rest square. Let me know what you guys think will look better and any feedback on the rest is appreciated too!

Pics of the brackets and legs are at:
http://photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/

:saw: :welder:

o dear i wouldnt want to piss him off u see all his guns!!! :eek: lol

OR_05Taco

01-04-2006, 05:41 PM

:eek:

o dear i wouldnt want to piss him off u see all his guns!!! :eek: lol

LOL :D :xrocker:

bray

01-06-2006, 12:59 AM

Got the sliders pretty much done today...all that's left is to clean them up and paint! :cool:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/031ab8b1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/15d53471.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/4fc4111d.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/DSC00374.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/DSC00381.jpg

:welder:

They look a lot like my Demello Hybrid Weld-On's! I love your shop and all the cool machinery. Looks like you could go in business for yourself one day soon. Start with very little profit and customer appreciation will let you know when to increase the value of your work.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/brayboy/IM000815.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/brayboy/IM000814.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/brayboy/IM000819.jpg

Thanks Jason!

OR_05Taco

01-06-2006, 01:13 AM

They look a lot like my Demello Hybrid Weld-On's! I love your shop and all the cool machinery. Looks like you could go in business for yourself one day soon. Start with very little profit and customer appreciation will let you know when to increase the value of your work.

Yes, having the shop is nice (actually my family's) and they/we are already in business (sadly not building off-road products). We build alot of parts for the cell-tower industry and other structural applications. Sure is convenient having the shop and most of the steel/aluminum/stainless I could ever want on hand though. :cool:

trdtrlsntrq

01-12-2006, 03:44 PM

o dear i wouldnt want to piss him off u see all his guns!!! lol
__________________

Thank God and the U.S.A. for semi-automatic (hey, I'll take what I can get, arrrrrrright...????) :thumbs: weapon's. :flamethro

THANKFUL More so than gun's............, FOR our servicepeople that carry these around, sleep with them, eat with them, in arms reach 100% of their LIVING time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Living a "REALITY" that I can't imagine. Only "THEY" know.
Of course, stateside, a person is publically labeled as crazy, paranoid, etc. until one of their sister's, aunt's, mother's, daughter's................you know, get's raped or killed. Then, it's a mad dash to the gun store. Now, who's crazy???? :confused:

Uhhm uhhmm, what happened, oh yeah Wheels, I gotta' go wheeling soon, I've just gotta get my computer dialed in. :xcrazy: :xbeer3:

P.S.
I've been mentioning this on other threads, it's worth the extra effort to check out POR-15. This is the shit!!! If I could, I'd slather it all on the belly of the truck, not to mention the Armour. It applies kinda' thick, syrup like. You can put as much of it that you want. I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't get 3/16" on some of my goods. I then had em' LINE-X'd, and since then, have been putting all kinds of rattle can Rustoleum, etc. on my Armour, "Too much is NEVER enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :xozzy:
OH YEAH, A BIG WORD OF WARNING, (CAUTION!!!)

This stuff is EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE!!!
Take all the regular precaution's, and you might not apply POR-15 to areas that you are planning to weld, or "flame cut"!, etc. This stuff goes up like wildfire, (EVEN in IT's HARDENED, FINISHED), STATE. It catches fire, and kinda start's burning in a LAVA like consistency. I assume no liabity in presenting these hazards. I am simply, trying to lead a person to take personal responsibility for their action's, and to take proper care to avoid a potentially hazardous situation(s)!

God somebody slap me!:bitchslap
Welcome to BABBLEFEST 06'!

Bye

OR_05Taco

01-16-2006, 05:26 PM

Well I finally found the time to get the sliders painted and put on today. I am very happy with the way they came out. They look great on the truck, IMHO. Pics:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/bbe21a0d.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/fd842bd8.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/439c4206.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/OR_05Taco/Sliders/79693032.jpg

Jaybird

01-20-2006, 08:03 PM

Nice work dude!

OR_05Taco

01-20-2006, 09:08 PM

Nice work dude!

Thanks! :D

05 taco access cab

02-01-2006, 05:11 PM

those look very good :kewl: :kewl: like the shop as well. truck looks really good with the sliders. makes you feel good when you do it your self. damn nice.

SR-71Taco

02-10-2006, 04:04 PM

Those look great! I've been watching your truck transform little by little. I have a few questions for you if you wouldn't mind. How long are the square tubes that come off the frame, and at what angle did you decide on once you welded on the slider? Hope that made sense! I have ZERO experience welding, but a close friend of mine is experienced and is going to fab some sliders up for me... can't wait!

:)

cb77DEMELLO

02-10-2006, 05:00 PM

very nice! I like them!

Jfab

02-10-2006, 05:31 PM

Very nice indeed. I like the way used a piece of angle for the gussets.

Jayce

bray

02-11-2006, 12:39 AM

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/brayboy/IM000854.jpg very nice! I like them!

You should! like I said, they are a lot like yours.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/brayboy/IM000859.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/brayboy/IM000858.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/brayboy/IM000855.jpg

OR_05Taco

02-11-2006, 12:51 AM

You should! like I said, they are a lot like yours.

They are indeed a lot like Demello's hybrid sliders. The only difference I can see is that I kept my square tube level to the truck, where as Demello tilts it with the outer tube.

schoolie

02-11-2006, 02:31 AM

very nice looking! i really like the hybrid look - as a matter of fact i'm getting some Demello hybrids welded on next friday at Jason's shop.

cb77DEMELLO

02-11-2006, 09:48 AM

They are indeed a lot like Demello's hybrid sliders. The only difference I can see is that I kept my square tube level to the truck, where as Demello tilts it with the outer tube.
The way I make them is a little harder because of the angle cut on the mounting legs but I really wanted a pointed surface to contact the rocks! It's the closes to triangle sliders I could get. Less contact means less hanging up.

Keep up the good work, lets see more stuff!