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sploosh
02-04-2006, 05:23 PM
I adjusted my coilovers to adjust for sagging and to try to level the front out. I had a measurement of 23" on both driver and passenger side before I started. This was from the center of the hub to the bottom of the fender flare. The rear measures 24". Now it's 23 3/4" in the front. I think it was about 2" of lift to start with. Did I go too high? Can anybody else give thier measurements from either a stock truck or a truck with coilovers that has a solid lift measurement? I didn't want to go over 3". High angle boots are soon to follow.

link817
02-04-2006, 08:50 PM
just curious if you have a diff drop? I"m figuring you do, but i have my coilovers a hair over three inch of lift w/ diff drop and i don't worry about it. My front end from the middle of the hub to the bottom of the fender flare w/ worn 32 inch tires(i don't know if the tire size has anything to do w/ it) is 24 1/8 inches.

sploosh
02-04-2006, 11:59 PM
I have a diff drop but I'm not sure it did anything. Once I get some ORS high angle boots I'm taking it off so the skid plate isn't hanging down as much.

As far as lift measurements go, tire size shouldn't effect measuring from hub center to fender flare. If you measured from the ground or the top of the tire to bottom of fender flare it would though.

GOT COPE?
02-05-2006, 12:26 AM
This may not be dead on exact, its an idea. If you measure from hub to top of wheel well then lift the truck off the ground and measure again. Take the difference and subtract from 4. Thats your lift.

sploosh
02-05-2006, 12:43 AM
So I measure like I did when I got 24", jack it up, measure again and say it was 29", the difference being 5", you'd subtract 4 from that for 1" of lift. That's just an example but is that what you're talking about?

GOT COPE?
02-05-2006, 12:51 AM
I meant to say you got the idea there, but the math was wrong. Just so ya know :) Hope this clears it up.

You see Tacoma IFS only has 8" of total travel 4" up and 4" down. When you lift the Taco say 2.5" you just used up 2.5" of downtravel. You now only have 1.5" before it bottoms out. ie tire comes off the ground.

So say you measure 24" on the ground, then lift the truck and measure 26.5". Take that 2.5" difference and subtract from 4" (your total possible downtravel) and that difference (1.5") would be how much you've lifted.

Basically it took 2.5" to get to full droop which means the remaining 1.5" was used in lift. Make sense? Hell all the guys on the NB say its as simple as measuring the threads on the SAW's but since Ive never had any I wouldnt know.

sploosh
02-05-2006, 01:24 AM
AAAAhhhh, ok. I get it now. I adjusted the SAWs twice today. The first time I went from 2" of threads exposed which I thought equalled roughly 2.5" of lift to 2 3/4" of threads exposed which I estimate lifted it 3.5". :eek: I had to take the tires back off and back them down to 2.5" of exposed threads and I guess it's about 3" of lift but I wanted to double check first. The stock measurements before SAWs was about 20.75", but that was with an ARB which had already sagged it at least 1/4" to 1/2". I think I'm in the realm of 3" of lift now. My goal today was to level the front with the rear, which I'm about even now, maybe 1/4" lower in the front.

GOT COPE?
02-05-2006, 01:42 AM
Dont factor in the loss of the ARB. You have physically lost that lift. So if you figure 3" of lift + the .25 lost to the ARB your cranking too much. Just figure the actual lift from the math.

If you were at 2.5" pre ARB and its sags you're no longer at 2.5" even though the crank thingy hasnt turned. Just wanna make sure not trying to make ya feel dumb :p

When you gonna make a trip to wheel with us? Tellico clean-up? SE TO? National TO? Uwharrie? Hell Im trying to get one put together for this weekend. If ya'll find a place down there let us know! We'll come down south to wheel :D

sploosh
02-05-2006, 02:03 AM
If you were at 2.5" pre ARB and its sags you're no longer at 2.5" even though the crank thingy hasnt turned. Just wanna make sure not trying to make ya feel dumb :p

I lost the 1/2" before I installed the SAWs when the ARB was on the stock suspension, so I had to doctor my math a little.

0stepside3
02-05-2006, 02:07 AM
I've got my badass $90 Walmart all-terrains on the truck right now, I don't want everyone to laugh at me. They sure do ride nice though. :)


http://www.generaltire.com/generator/www/us/en/generaltire/automobile/themes/van/all_terrain/grabber_at2/img/grabber_at2_3q;property=original.jpg

That's at wal mart now. If I can ever get a price for them, I'm thinking of trying them on my ride.

sploosh
02-05-2006, 02:15 AM
I should have got 285's. :mad:

GOT COPE?
02-05-2006, 03:02 PM
On the 7th of Febuary I have to go to a 33 day school at the noncommissioned officer's academy called the Warrior Leader's Course. :rolleyes: Basically it's boot camp all over again for sergeants. :( After that I'm game for whatever. We could try and get all the Columbus guys and Atlanta guys together sometime. If nothing else just to meet and greet or whatnot. I've got my badass $90 Walmart all-terrains on the truck right now, I don't want everyone to laugh at me. They sure do ride nice though. :)

Well you'll be back in time for any of those events except maybe the Tellico clean-up. Have fun at camp :D lol

sploosh
03-18-2006, 11:07 AM
just curious if you have a diff drop? I"m figuring you do, but i have my coilovers a hair over three inch of lift w/ diff drop and i don't worry about it. My front end from the middle of the hub to the bottom of the fender flare w/ worn 32 inch tires(i don't know if the tire size has anything to do w/ it) is 24 1/8 inches.


Hey man I was just wondering how many miles you've drove on that setting and if you've had any cv related problems. I'm at 23 3/4" right now and I was thinking of going 24" or so.

link817
03-21-2006, 09:24 PM
Hey man I was just wondering how many miles you've drove on that setting and if you've had any cv related problems. I'm at 23 3/4" right now and I was thinking of going 24" or so.


I have had this setting since december. I did have a problem w/ the cv that i got from advanced, the boot took a shit. The cv from the factory worked a lot better b/c of the desigh of the boot.

sploosh
03-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Right now at 23.75" on the front the inners are doing well, only very light rubbing. I think I'll just stay there until I get the TC and then I can back them down an inch so it'll be at about 6.5" or 7" of lift. That ought to work wonderfully as far as cv boot wear. I just keep the dirt out of them now and they're working out great.

ReDtacoTJM
04-19-2006, 08:14 PM
ok how yall were tlaking earlier baout the2.5-1,5 sag or somehting like that if i put a 3"will i have to change the front shocks or what

sploosh
04-19-2006, 08:43 PM
You lost me on that one man. :confused:

link817
04-19-2006, 08:46 PM
on the sag issue, they are talking about when you put a bumper and winch combination in the front of the truck. Put that combination its like 200lbs on the front end of your truck. That kind of weight on the shocks and you will loose preciouse lift b/c of the weight. If you go and put the ome springs on, you probably will have to get different kind of struts man.

sploosh
04-19-2006, 10:10 PM
But with adjustable coilovers you can just crank them a little more to take any sag out. The springs are also heavier and help with the extra weight.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b314/ShaunSmith/Truck%20pics/TruckPics017.jpg

Those are the SAW 2.0's. The adjustment collar moves on the threads so you can preload the coil springs and get lift. You can give yourself anywhere from 0" to 3" of lift that way.

ReDtacoTJM
04-20-2006, 05:17 AM
ahhho o i see i am incohernet sometimes