Rock Sliders

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Check out Trail-Gear's prices on Rock Sliders. We think this is the best price you will find anywhere! Sliders are made from .120" 1 3/4" tubing. Legs are not welded on you can adjust the angle and width of the bars when installing them.



58" Long (fits short bed) $135/pair
78" Long (fits Xcab) $145/pair

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/rocksliders-600.gif

[Stock02]

Any bumpers?

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Any bumpers?

Sorry, not yet. We have some ideas in that direction for the future.

[GOT COPE?]

Prices include free ground shipping to the 48 states!

58" Long (fits short bed) $135/pair
78" Long (fits Xcab) $145/pair



:eek: wow. I cant wait to see the bumper prices! Rear bumper? Maybe a hybrid model? ;)

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

:eek: wow. I cant wait to see the bumper prices! Rear bumper? Maybe a hybrid model? ;)

At this point all we have is drawings in our engineering computer. We are looking at tube style front and rear bumpers. We are easily 6 months away from having something ready to sell.

Our rock sliders were ready to go so we started there.

We also hope to offer suspension systems in the future as well.

[Toyota4x4man]

Do you offer sliders for the 05 model

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Do you offer sliders for the 05 model

I have not had an 05 model in the shop yet, so I just don't know if one of the sizes we have in stock will fit.

If anyone wants to come by our shop with an 05 for a day, we will install a free set if we have something in the correct size.

[GOT COPE?]

At this point all we have is drawings in our engineering computer. We are looking at tube style front and rear bumpers. We are easily 6 months away from having something ready to sell.

Thats probably a good thing as Im $6 from being broke :D

Cant wait. Feel free to post any sneak peeks of the comp drawings. Im sure plenty of us would be happy to critique. :)

[0stepside3]

Those look like some great prices! I'm in the same boat as Colin except, broke is an understatement :D

[Animal]

On your web page.. in the installation write-up.. the sliders that are installed with the body showing.. is that an Xtended Cab.. or Regular?? Also, how much of a difference in gap is there between the rear weel and the end/start of the sliders? The front looks fine.. just curious to how much difference there is from front to back.

Thanx..

Great Prices by the way!!! :cool:

Site Pic:
http://www.trail-gear.com/images/nerf-installed-600.jpg

[Dick Foster]

Good price maybe but also incomplete. How are they supposed to be attached to the truck? Don't even say butt weld the ends of the tubes to the frame side wall.

[KStacoma]

that's what i was wondering, you need gusseted plates on the end of those tubes to weld on the frame, pipe itself will rip off maybe taking pieces of the frame w/it. :eek:

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

On your web page.. in the installation write-up.. the sliders that are installed with the body showing.. is that an Xtended Cab.. or Regular?? Also, how much of a difference in gap is there between the rear weel and the end/start of the sliders? The front looks fine.. just curious to how much difference there is from front to back.

Thanx..

Great Prices by the way!!! :cool:

Site Pic:
http://www.trail-gear.com/images/nerf-installed-600.jpg

The gap front to rear is the same. The truck in the photo is an FJ80 Landcruiser.

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Good price maybe but also incomplete. How are they supposed to be attached to the truck? Don't even say butt weld the ends of the tubes to the frame side wall.

Yep you can weld them straight to the frame. I've been doing it for the past 10 years with no problems at all.

Some people like to add a plate between the frame and the tube and that also works well. I have also put a small gusset on the top of the tube with good results.

The extra cab bars came with 8 legs, so the weight is well distributed along the frame.

[Paul]

At this point all we have is drawings in our engineering computer. We are looking at tube style front and rear bumpers. We are easily 6 months away from having something ready to sell.

Our rock sliders were ready to go so we started there.

We also hope to offer suspension systems in the future as well.
If you ever need a 98 to design something, I'm just down the road.

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

If you ever need a 98 to design something, I'm just down the road.

That would be great to have a later style truck to try sutff on. We will contact later this year when we have some new products to test fit.

[Dick Foster]

Better yet are bolt on brackets.

[Dick Foster]

In that case, your product is half assed, IMHO. Why don't you try doing it the right way? It's not at all hard to do and would add little to the cost while at the same time allowing for anyone to install them inside of an hour in their driveway.

[AngryAndy]

Oh no....here we go again.

[Dick Foster]

I can't belive he wants to simply weld tube ends to the outside frame wall only. That is just fucked up even for weld-ons. I've seen what that shit does and it ain't purdy.

[AngryAndy]

Dick...PLEASE don't bash the new vendor and/or his products.

EVERYONE here knows you dont like weld on sliders.....STFU and don't buy them if you don't like them.

I PERSONALLY have already spent OVER $1000 with Trail-Gear, and I think they are selling awesome products. And YES, I will also be buying WELD ON SLIDERS from them. So suck balls, and leave their products alone...why don't you go create a weld-on vs bold on slider post??? Wait; I think there already is one....Maybe I should drag it up for you to bash there.

[Dick Foster]

I don't give a shit if he is a vendor or not. If he is making a bad product people need to know. That is what we are really here for, dumbass. This is not just weld ons but something almost guarenteed to fuck a frame if used for actual rock crawling. Don't make me come up there and take corrective measures on your sorry ass, maggot.

[AngryAndy]

You wont come up here....you lazy old fuckstick...To quote YOU.... its "too far".....lol.....

If you do come up here, could you please help me change my o2 sensor on the 4runner???? I could really use your help in that area. Thanks.

[Dick Foster]

Damn Andrew, that's not hard to do you lazy fuck. Get out there and soak the nuts or whatever in PB then take the damn thing off the next day.

I would help you anyway but I think I'll probably get chosen for a jury Thursday. After all who wouldn't want me passing judgement on their ass. LOL
It's probably gonna be a lengthly trial too, a double banger for the #2.

[TacoDell]

Hmmm... I'll have to agree with the Dick on this one... Even though I have weld ons... (Just 'cause Dick hates 'em) at least they have a backing plates and gussets that spreads the weld load on the frame... Tubes welded direct... are not cool... Sucks when yer frame has big cheesy holes in it... after you have a really hard hit... I seen it and it was a PITA... I think the Vendor might like to know what's at least reasonable... Constructive criticism should be no biggie...

[Mike]

I can't belive he wants to simply weld tube ends to the outside frame wall only. That is just fucked up even for weld-ons. I've seen what that shit does and it ain't purdy.

Well, I think welding something round to the frame would be better than welding something square to the frame.

I think the best bet would be a diamond shaped backing plate with a triangle gussett on the top of the slider leg.

It would be really easy and cheap for the end user to add something like that since the legs have to be dealt with anyway.

And as far as the prices go, the average person can't even buy the materials as cheap as TG is selling the final product!

Later,
....Mike

[04RedLobster]

but the price is pretty good...might have to make some changes if i buy those..but..i think i'm gonna go with a local shop in NC....

bump for yah!
keep us informed with new products you guys are coming out with!

[Murderman]

Dick, my sliders are welded to the frame....oh wait, they are actually welded through the frame. The 1.5 x .188 DOM has been bent, but no weld or framerail failures. :D

[Dick Foster]

Through the frame is not the end of the tube butt welded to one sidewall. I've seen what happens when that is done. Where is Woody (Bernie), as I remember he had it happen to him.

[Dick Foster]

As in anything, you get what you pay for and no more.

[Dick Foster]

Mike, would you butt weld the ends of the tubes directly to the sidewall of your frame? This is not the weld-on vs bolt-on debate it's the way he's talking about attaching them. We all know that bolt-on is better for a number of reasons. LOL But doing weld-ons the way he's talking about would render them suitable for mall running and that is about the extent of it. If you're going to do weld-on at least do it in a way that shows your have an IQ superior to a fern. You can get tools made in China for cheap too but what do your really get in the end? Price is not everything, especially if you intend to beat the living crap out of your rig. As I recall this is an off roading board and not Custom Tacos. Here we actually use our shit and use it damn hard.

[NorcalPR]

I am ready to buy them in a heartbeat, if they attach to the frame in a bolt on. Maybe I'll just go fab some of my own.

Or how bout this, how much would it cost just to make the slider end pieces with no legs at all?

-Philly

[Murderman]

Dick,

I do indeed realize that butt-welding is not at all the same as coping through; I was just trying to torque you up....like assistance was really needed. :D In fact, the intermediate legs of mine are also at angles to the horizontal to provide the triangulation that you alluded to regarding gussets.

I suspect that your insight might be better received if conveyed in a slightly more constructive matter, such as "when one butt welds a structural member perpendicular to a piece of [essentially] sheet metal, consideration should be given to the mechanical phenomenon of shearing the thinner material when bending moments are applied. Doubler plates and/or gussets significantly reduce the stress concentrations, and minimize the likelihood of this occurrance." :)

As far as the welded vs. bolted debate, maybe you can convince NASCAR, NHRA, SCORE, etc. builders to start bolting their rollcages together? ;) Not saying that bolted sliders are necessarily a bad thing, particular with dissimilar metals like yours, but welded is not the devil either.

See you next month, John

[Dick Foster]

I leave all of that pussyfied PC stuff to others, it just ain't my style. LOL
Yeah, hopefully I'll make it. Now I'd doing jury duty and still haven't gotten my front axle squared away.

[Yota Masters]

I have been running Sliders that attach in the same manner as Trail-Gears for a couple years now. I have NEVER seen a problem / failure with this design. I have SLAMMED my truck many, many times onto my sliders. I am not saying that overengineering the connection in question is a bad thing, but dont try to tell people that this style of connection is for mall cruising only and will fail when it looks at a rock the wrong way. :)

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

We want to listen to what is being said and offer products that conform to the desires of our customers. We have spent the last day really considering this issue from all sides.

We have come up with a bracket that we think will address this issue. We will offer a separate plate and gusset kit for the legs. I estimate the cost of the plates and gussets to be around $30 or so. The L shaped 3/16" plates will weld or bolt to the frame. The rock sliders will weld to the plates and a heavy 3/16 gusset will go between the L bracket and the tubing.

We are also looking at doing a fully welded version for the Tacoma's with the plates and gussets already welded on. Holes in the plates (1/2”) will allow the bars to be welded or bolted on.

[ATLRoach]

Damn guys I expect nothing less from Trail Gear.. I have had nothing but out standing products that i have bought from you guys which is alot of stuff. :clap:

[Animal]

We want to listen to what is being said and offer our products that conform to the desires of our customers. We have spent the last day really considering this issue from all sides.

We have come up with a bracket that we think will address this issue. We will offer a separate plate and gusset kit for the legs. I estimate the cost of the plates and gussets to be around $30 or so. The L shaped 3/16" plates will weld or bolt to the frame. The rock sliders will weld to the plates and a heavy 3/16 gusset will go between the L bracket and the tubing.

We are also looking at doing a fully welded version for the Tacoma's with the plates and gussets already welded on. Holes in the plates (1/2”) will allow the bars to be welded or bolted on.


Those look pretty bitchn'!! :cool:

I need to save up my pennies and buy some now.. ha ha

[Dick Foster]

Two whole years huh? Wait till you do then. It ain't at all pretty.

[Yota Masters]

Two whole years huh? Wait till you do then. It ain't at all pretty.


You should come down for the Benders jambo in april. I would be happy to slam my sliders on some rocks a few times just for you. If my frame brakes i'll buy you a beer. :xpfft:

[Dick Foster]

Dayum, almost impossible to turn that kinda shit down. However it's not fair unless you let me drive it my way. LOL Why don't you make it out to AZ Rocks next month? Lots of fun action out there.

[Murderman]

We want to listen to what is being said and offer products that conform to the desires of our customers. We have spent the last day really considering this issue from all sides.

We have come up with a bracket that we think will address this issue. We will offer a separate plate and gusset kit for the legs. I estimate the cost of the plates and gussets to be around $30 or so. The L shaped 3/16" plates will weld or bolt to the frame. The rock sliders will weld to the plates and a heavy 3/16 gusset will go between the L bracket and the tubing.

We are also looking at doing a fully welded version for the Tacoma's with the plates and gussets already welded on. Holes in the plates (1/2”) will allow the bars to be welded or bolted on.

That sounds pretty responsive...let's all see what time tells of this product.

As has been alluded to, and I can validate from repeated personal experience, welding sliders onto a rig is more work than meets the average eye, particularly if the legs, doublers, and gussets all have to be fitted, tacked, and welded out as well.

[GOT COPE?]

We want to listen to what is being said and offer products that conform to the desires of our customers. We have spent the last day really considering this issue from all sides.

:clap:

[andrewmft]

We have come up with a bracket that we think will address this issue. We will offer a separate plate and gusset kit for the legs. I estimate the cost of the plates and gussets to be around $30 or so. The L shaped 3/16" plates will weld or bolt to the frame. The rock sliders will weld to the plates and a heavy 3/16 gusset will go between the L bracket and the tubing.

We are also looking at doing a fully welded version for the Tacoma's with the plates and gussets already welded on. Holes in the plates (1/2”) will allow the bars to be welded or bolted on.

When will these be added to your site?


What about size for Dcabs?

[Paul]

What about size for Dcabs?
Double Cabs use the same length as Xtra-cabs.

[andrewmft]

Double Cabs use the same length as Xtra-cabs.
Learn something new everyday....Thanks Paul, now I can take the rest of the day off :D

Perhaps tomorrow I can learn the answer to my first question 8)

[white_eskimo]

I live relatively close to fresno and have an 05 tacoma access cab. I am looking for a pair of quality bolt on sliders that will be safe and wont cause any damage to the frame of my truck when used correctly. My hopes is that the sliders offer complete door protection against trees. I'm not really into rock crawling, but i would love to be able to pivot around a tree. How long would it take you to fab up a pair? can i watch/learn from you while you do it? Thanks in advance... PM me if you want so we can talk about this specific issue some more!

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

I live relatively close to fresno and have an 05 tacoma access cab. I am looking for a pair of quality bolt on sliders that will be safe and wont cause any damage to the frame of my truck when used correctly. My hopes is that the sliders offer complete door protection against trees. I'm not really into rock crawling, but i would love to be able to pivot around a tree. How long would it take you to fab up a pair? can i watch/learn from you while you do it? Thanks in advance... PM me if you want so we can talk about this specific issue some more!

Sorry we don't do custom work at our shop. We engineer products here and then do large runs of parts. Once we finish making the brackets and gussets (above) we will work on building full welded versions of our bars for the Tacoma. Then we will be able to look at the 2005 & 2006 models to see what changes will be needed.

[white_eskimo]

I have not had an 05 model in the shop yet, so I just don't know if one of the sizes we have in stock will fit.

If anyone wants to come by our shop with an 05 for a day, we will install a free set if we have something in the correct size.

got it looking forward to seeing your 05-06 products!

[jtaco1]

I just got a set of these to replace my Stubbs sliders and all I can say is that they are awesome. I will be installing them over the next few weeks when I get a chance, hopefully. The bends and welds looks great. Excellant product and craftsmanship Trail-Gear.

[freejake3]

We want to listen to what is being said and offer products that conform to the desires of our customers. We have spent the last day really considering this issue from all sides.

We have come up with a bracket that we think will address this issue. We will offer a separate plate and gusset kit for the legs. I estimate the cost of the plates and gussets to be around $30 or so. The L shaped 3/16" plates will weld or bolt to the frame. The rock sliders will weld to the plates and a heavy 3/16 gusset will go between the L bracket and the tubing.

We are also looking at doing a fully welded version for the Tacoma's with the plates and gussets already welded on. Holes in the plates (1/2”) will allow the bars to be welded or bolted on.


I'm guessing you will need some self tapping bolts or are these throught the frame to the inside rail. Yeah, I know, it's a newbie question.
AG

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

I'm guessing you will need some self tapping bolts or are these throught the frame to the inside rail. Yeah, I know, it's a newbie question.
AG

The gussets and plates are being made now. We will have these in a few weeks. The plates have holes driled in them so if you want to use self tapping screws you can. We will not be providing the screws.

The plate and gusset kits will be:
$39 for 58" & 67" bars
$49 for the 78"

[Darwalk]

Can I ask where all of your stuff is being manufactured? Out of the posts I have read of yours, you guys just engineer the parts and then have someone else make the stuff? Just curious :)

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Can I ask where all of your stuff is being manufactured? Out of the posts I have read of yours, you guys just engineer the parts and then have someone else make the stuff? Just curious :)

That's correct. We have over 100 different vendors and small shops that make parts for us to our specifications. No one shop can make all the different parts that make up our kits. The equipment used to make a polyurethane bushing is different from a forge that presses steel into steering arms.

Here are a few of the vendors we use...

Bilstein Shocks
Crown Industries
Front Range Off Road
Datin Custom Fab
Power Tank
Energy Suspension

[ToyofMarin]

The gussets and plates are being made now. We will have these in a few weeks. The plates have holes driled in them so if you want to use self tapping screws you can. We will not be providing the screws.

The plate and gusset kits will be:
$39 for 58" & 67" bars
$49 for the 78"

Can you contact me when these are ready. BTW how much for the fully welded bars 78".
Thanks

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Sure, I will post up and send you a note when they are ready to ship.

I don't have a price for the fully welded version yet - still working on that.

[Captkirkyota]

Trail gear..... awesome responsive, without getting defensive, way of conducting yourself, you should do very well with that way about you. I will take the oppotunity to elaborate, with out the grumpy old man with to much time on the web lately and really needs to wheel soon tone to what I say, snicker, sorry the Dick, but you need to come relax in AZ next month! ;)
Anyway, Oh, and Yotamaster, you'll prolly like to know this too, the older Toyota trucks, the type you TG and Yotamaster have and have been putting products on, the older ones do not have the lousy paper thin 1/16th" thick frame the Taco has, thus, butt welded sliders that have not been an issue for you in the past, that is why you have prolly not seen any problems, and some frames seem better than other for some odd reason. Shane's has almost no plating, yet mine has ripped, and the bottom rear of my frame got dented in and was starting to allow bulging on the inside frame rails, leading to an eventual bad situation, so I just had a bunch of plating added to my frame on the bottom and inside. Granted I have a heavier D-cab, toting my not so thin crisco sweating butt around in it, but still, I don't abuse my truck, so it is ultra cool that you decided to add the plates to what seem to be an very nice product at exceptional price. Keep up the good work!
Down the Dick down boy! Take 3 days in March to recoup, that is an order. :D

[Aleco911]

Im interested also for a regular cab 99, I am assuming they will work on this right?...w/ the bolt on gusset adapter.


Also, looks like they are unpainted. I have been using Rust-Oleum Professional Industrial Strength for cleaning up parts during my lift. Would any of you guys recommend other stuff? Because this stuff so far is amazing and keeps its quality, no chipping...


thanks

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Im interested also for a regular cab 99, I am assuming they will work on this right?...w/ the bolt on gusset adapter.


Also, looks like they are unpainted. I have been using Rust-Oleum Professional Industrial Strength for cleaning up parts during my lift. Would any of you guys recommend other stuff? Because this stuff so far is amazing and keeps its quality, no chipping...

Finally, where can I buy self tapping screws...Yea im not familiar to them..

thanks

Yes, we have sizes to fit single, double or xcab from 1995-2004

Rust-Oleum is the only paint I use on my truck. It's the best spray paint I have ever used.

For screws just do an internet search. Lots of hardware stores have them.

[East_Coast_Taco]

Do you have the fully welded gusset bolt on's ready yet? If so, Pm me a price shipped to 26201. 04 XCab

[HeloDude]

Trail gear do the bolt on sliders use the existing holes or are you going to have to do some drilling? If you have to drill holes are you planning on making bolt on that do not require any drilling?

[Dick Foster]

NO!!! I march to the beat of my own drum.

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Trail gear do the bolt on sliders use the existing holes or are you going to have to do some drilling? If you have to drill holes are you planning on making bolt on that do not require any drilling?

You would need to drill all the holes if you wish to bolt them on. We have no plans to try and do what you looking for.

[Bubz]

FREE SHIPPING! hell yea thats is such a good deal

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Do you have the fully welded gusset bolt on's ready yet? If so, Pm me a price shipped to 26201. 04 XCab

Not yet, it's going to take a few weeks yet. We are waiting for the laser cut parts to come in.

[Aleco911]

when they come in, price one to me at 60510 for a regular cab bolt on... thanks

Also looks like you have some competition with miorc and zac. Hes pricing the same think out shipped for 210.. Lets see some competitive pricing?

[themariachi]

That's correct. We have over 100 different vendors and small shops that make parts for us to our specifications. No one shop can make all the different parts that make up our kits. The equipment used to make a polyurethane bushing is different from a forge that presses steel into steering arms.

Here are a few of the vendors we use...

Bilstein Shocks
Crown Industries
Front Range Off Road
Datin Custom Fab
Power Tank
Energy Suspension
Does Crown make your brake lines that you sell?

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Does Crown make your brake lines that you sell?

Yes they do.

[themariachi]

Yes they do.
:kewl: That's a great deal for Crown.

[themariachi]

Hey, what happened to the lines on your site?

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Hey, what happened to the lines on your site?

Somehow during one of the updates the lines got deleted from the page. I just put them back up on the page again. Thanks for pointing that out.

[themariachi]

Somehow during one of the updates the lines got deleted from the page. I just put them back up on the page again. Thanks for pointing that out.
:kewl:

[Scootn2nature]

who else is pricing em out shipped etc. zack? do you have a link or contact info

[Scootn2nature]

When are those fully welded gusseted sliders gonna be ready ?

[synovus]

who else is pricing em out shipped etc. zack? do you have a link or contact info

Zac doesn't have a site yet, but here's his contact info: http://www.ttora.com/forum/showpost.php?p=282765&postcount=1

[DriftinCO]

The sliders arrived! They look awesome...can't wait to get them WELDED to truck.

*runs back outside to look at the sliders again*

*giggles and hops up and down*

*runs back inside for another beer*

[Dick Foster]

Too bad they aren't bolt on, you could have them installed all by yourself already. LOL

[Stock02]

Too bad they aren't bolt on, you could have them installed all by yourself already. LOL

Too bad he can't weld. ;)

[Dick Foster]

Even more reason to get bolt-ons. LOL

[Dreadnought]

Two whole years huh? Wait till you do then. It ain't at all pretty.

Many Pre Tacoma Toyota truggy/buggies here in Arizona don't even run sliders, they use their frames as sliders... for years. The mini trucks are just made of beefier metal as I am sure most of you know. I have been running weld on sliders for a long time with no issues whatsoever. :confused:

I am running Marlin Sliders, very similar, if not the same as TG mini truck slider.

[AggieTaco]

Are the fully welded bolt on bars avaliable yet?

And with the gussets, can they be shipped already welded to the mounting bars so that only the main rock bar needs to be welded to the mounting bars?

The less welding I have to do in my driveway, the better...

[AggieTaco]

bump

[AggieTaco]

bump

[Paul]

bump
Shoot them an email or call them at 559 252 4950.

[AggieTaco]

Shoot them an email or call them at 559 252 4950.

Thanks, I was just being lazy and thought they frequented the board. From the look of things on their site, I'd say no, but I'll give them a holler tomorrow.

[AngryAndy]

Are the fully welded bolt on bars avaliable yet?

And with the gussets, can they be shipped already welded to the mounting bars so that only the main rock bar needs to be welded to the mounting bars?

The less welding I have to do in my driveway, the better...

AFAIK...they don't sell a turnkey "bolt on" application.

They sell sliders with long 'legs' that would need to be cut down, depending on how far you want the sliders to stick out.

They also sell the 'gussets' you are referring to, but again, that would need to be welded once your 'leg' length is determined.

So the answer (from what I know) is NO...you need to weld them in your driveway.......

[Dick Foster]

Hummm so how does welding sliders into your driveway suppose to do any good? Hell I learn new stuff all the time here. I didn't know you could weld concret. Is there some special welding rod required for that?

[tbplus10]

It keeps the low riders from parking in your driveway!! :D

[Dick Foster]

Ah Ha now I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Where can I get some of that welding rod and how much does it cost? Wouldn't it be easier to just bolt them to the driveway using some concrete anchors or something?

[tbplus10]

Very rare stuff, I think only NASA engineers have access to it.
Just bolting wont work, they'll steall anything thats simply bolted on. This needs to be a permanent fixture.

[Dick Foster]

I see. How about welding the bolts then?

[tbplus10]

That should slow'em down some.

[snowchucker]

We sell Trail Gear's products and their sliders for a bolt on Tacoma application.
They have awsome products, service and price that cannot be beat.

[CronusTRD]

We sell Trail Gear's products and their sliders for a bolt on Tacoma application.
They have awsome products, service and price that cannot be beat.

You guys should do some R&D sharing and get a full fledged Tacoma SAS kit out on the market.

[AggieTaco]

AFAIK...they don't sell a turnkey "bolt on" application.

They sell sliders with long 'legs' that would need to be cut down, depending on how far you want the sliders to stick out.

They also sell the 'gussets' you are referring to, but again, that would need to be welded once your 'leg' length is determined.

So the answer (from what I know) is NO...you need to weld them in your driveway.......

I can read, but thanks for the summary.

I was just bringing up an old topic, because the idea of a "turn-key" bolt on slider has been discussed by them, so I didn't know if it was avaliable yet.

[East_Coast_Taco]

Got mine in this afternoon. AWESOME product!!!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Undergr0undAssassins/slide4.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Undergr0undAssassins/slide2.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Undergr0undAssassins/slide.jpg

[1985 4Runner]

Just checked my tracking #, mine should be here tomorrow. I'll post up pics when they are welded on.

[NorcalPR]

looks like a great product. I was going to do these., but bit the bullet and made my own.

[Bubz]

I just bought my Trail-gear sliders for my extra cab and I love em. Best deal on anything i've bought for my truck. Im definately going to buy the rear bumper if it comes out.

[1985 4Runner]

I was expecting my order to show up tomorrow sometime, when who shows up but my favorite person, Mr. UPS driver with this... :eek:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/scorpion2076/sliders1.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/scorpion2076/sliders2.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/scorpion2076/sliders3.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/scorpion2076/sliders4.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/scorpion2076/sliders5.jpg

Packaged very well, everything there, free stickers & arrived one day EARLY.
Thanks Chris! Thanks Trail Gear! :D

[cabo john]

Dick, or should I call you the devils advocate? lol
Thanks for speaking up and saying your piece!
I am still kinda new to this kind of off road chit and I wanna do it right the first time!
Sure its nice to save a buck... but a saved dollar doesn't always mean best value. I know you speak from experience.
There are a lot of choices when it comes to sliders and the last thing I wanna do is fook up my truck. I am on STILLL on the fence l... dont know which sliders to get and still not sure if I want to go bolt on or weld on?
At least now my eyes are open. THANK YOU!
John

[Dick Foster]

;) I can assure you that I have been called a lot worse. And will be again from this post. That’s OK, I can’t wait and I’m wearing my flame suit.:p

:rolleyes: The things to consider in this debate, if there are any, is that it goes way beyond the strength issue. I still maintain that a properly designed bolt on distributes the forces in the way they should be there, across the entire cross section of the frame rail. There are the other issues of maintenance, repair, and convenience in the ability to get them off for access to other stuff.

For example, long after I had my sliders on, I decided to fab up some air tanks and install them between the frame rails and the rocker panels above the sliders. That would have been much more of a hassle had I welded the sliders on and I would have had to take a torch and grinder to the frame. What happens to some of the material when you do that? :confused: Now what do you do, remake the damn standoffs or do the reattach with weld buggers? Now if I need to get the air tanks out or gain access to that area, there is no problem. What about painting? I don’t because mine are stainless and I’m lazy. If you are going to use them and they are not made from stainless (expensive), they will need a paint job every year of so as my bumpers do. Yeah I really do use my stuff.

Sliders are made and intended to be pounded and beat on i.e. they are more or less considered expendable items that are there to take on damage and so will require regular and routine maintenance. To me it's sheer insanity to weld something like that on. The same goes for bumpers. Some folks actually weld bumpers to their frames. All I can say to that sort of thing is:dunno: HUH? :doh: DUH! And :eek: WOW!! :rofl:

:banghead: Why so called fabricators find it so damn difficult to make up very simple U brackets that will attach at the already existing hole locations in the frame is beyond me. :( If they can’t fabricate a simple U bracket from one bent or right angle piece and a flat piece, can they actually call themselves fabricators?:saw: Fabrication goes far beyond working with tube stock and handing a MIG welder. :welder:All I can really see is pure unadulterated sloth and laziness.:xzzz: In my mind there is not, nor will there ever be, any justification whatsoever to weld sliders on, it's just plain stupid. :soapbox: The folks who debate the supposed attributes of weld-ons are just being silly because there are none in the realms of logic and reason.:bs: If they would just :stfu: then sit down and do it, the entire issue would just go away. I don’t give a flip who you are or how long you’ve been knocking stuff out onto the market place either. :xmoon: :flipoff4: This includes all of you Jason, AJ, John and Chris to name but a few. :flipoff2: All nice folks usually, but every damn one of you are not doing your customers any favors. :shame: So why don’t you just quit :jack: get off of your lazy backsides, :stfu: and do it right for a change. It’s not going to cost you one damn nickel to do it right and I think your customers are worth it. And don’t come in here touting your experience either. :xsmash: I have years of experience designing stuff from complicated capital equipment with more machine motions than Carter’s has pills that sell for tens and even hundreds of thousands or dollars to mass market items that are sold in the millions upon millions for :2cents: pennies each. I just may have even accumulated more mechanical design experience by accident that all of you :newbie:folks making sliders for sale put together.:buttkick:

I have bolt-ons that I did myself with the help of someone doing the welding for me. They are stainless even if you have a welder you shouldn’t be welding stainless unless you have the right equipment and materials. :xpimp: They have been pounded and beat upon and suffered years of abuse and they are still doing the job. I have had no strength or frame issues what so ever.

The only reason I did my own was at the time the only thing on the market for the Tacoma was some from John at All Pro. After devoting all of about five minutes of thought to it, I came to the rapid conclusion that welding them on was a really stupid idea :confused:so I sat down (taking some ideas from John, the outer tube assembly) and designed some for my own use. I have been more than willing to show the folks that do this for a living that it’s really easy and not expensive to do.:aahg: It is not complicated fabrication. I have even posted detailed plans with pictures free for anyone to use. http://www.tacomaterritory.com/wiki/index.php/Dick_Foster_Sliders
After all, this was my very first attempt and designing or fabricating anything in the way of armor so how hard can it be? The only thing I did wrong was not put enough spacers between the inside and outside tubes. :doh: That much I will readily fess up to. :o

:thumbs: Using a very simple jig, they can be made to bolt right up in anyone’s drive way inside of an hour using simple hand tools. Hell the jig to do that can be made with some 2X4s and maybe some ply wood for pity sake. Or if you want you can have the user do some welding by having them attach the bracket/standoff assemblies to the frame then holding the tube assembly up to the fish-mouthed ends of the standoffs at the desired angle, tack weld them in place, then remove and fully weld those joints (three per side). That is how I detailed them to be made in the plans I worked up. You can do it either way or offer them in both varieties. :kewl:

So much for my annual weld-on/bolt-on slider rant.:xbarf: Now I’ll let it coast for another year. :xzzz: Unless I am antagonized that is. :dancing: In that case I will emerge from beneath my rock with my flame thrower fully charged.:flamethro
So go ahead and flame away.:asshat: Bring it on bitches. :neener:

But just to let you know what you'll be up against, I working on a paper right now that a company is paying me an egregious amount of money to do. In that paper I am detailing how to go about building a machine with no less than 12 machine motions, 8 of which will move with precision measured to a few thousands of an inch while the remaining 4 will move with precision measured to a couple of microns. All of those motions will be repeated, with the required accuracy, thousands upon thousands of times over for weeks and months on end before service will be required. The machine will cost roughly a hundred thousand dollars when complete and will in all probability be made a few hundred times over. You are not dealing with your typical backyard hack here. I know WTF I am doing and weld-on sliders are just wrong.:rofl:

[NorcalPR]

I agree with Dick's design and ranting. I made his slider design (about 2 hours before I totaled my truck) and jacked them up on the back end. They only moved up about 1/16" at the most. They're durable as hell!

What's even better is I can bolt them right up to my new truck with no problems.

[Scootn2nature]

Here I thought I was getting a bentup- product...... I wondered when there wasn't a kickout like in the photo.

I could of saved a hundred bucks and welded my own....

Personally I wanted Dick's slider's at the very least bolt on's ....and was talked out
of it. I wish I knew about the pic's and Mr. Df's willingness to help......Another example of Get what you want, save up the money, have some patience....(hardest part for me) and...DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!!!!!!!........not always cheap but less expensive in the long run. Especially when you factor in the mental anguish, regrets, disappointment, anger,........etc.

[firemandave]

I think i may purchase these and modify them slightly so rather than welding them on they'll be bolt on. But i'm still debating on doin it myself, and if so doing round pipe or square tubing.

[East_Coast_Taco]

snowchucker, PM'd you about a set of the TG Slider bolt on brackets!

[cabo john]

I am glad I waited...bolt on sliders make sense and that is the route I'm going to take.
Now, who makes the best "ready to use / bolt on out of the box sliders?" ;)
Anyone???
Thanks in advance.

[purity]

I am glad I waited...bolt on sliders make sense and that is the route I'm going to take.
Now, who makes the best "ready to use / bolt on out of the box sliders?" ;)
Anyone???
Thanks in advance.
check out this thread.
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30939

[East_Coast_Taco]

Anyone had any luck getting ahold of Bentup or CBI??? Anyone want to fab me up a set of bolt on brackets??? :welder:

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

I am glad I waited...bolt on sliders make sense and that is the route I'm going to take.
Now, who makes the best "ready to use / bolt on out of the box sliders?" ;)
Anyone???
Thanks in advance.

Trail-Gear now offers a fully welded Rock Slider kit for Tacoma Extra-cab Pickups. Made from 1 3/4" X .120" wall Tubing. Includes 4 legs with gussets on each slider. We recommend welding bars directly to the frame. Sliders can also be bolted on using holes in gussets. Fits 1995-2003 Tacoma Extra Cab. Sliders are 78" long $299 per pair.

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/tacoma-sliders-600.jpg

[Ted]

I got my set of Trial-Gear sliders for my 85 truck last Firday. Dick...I'm going to weld them on this weekend. :D

[Dick Foster]

Well go right ahead, Ted. Why don't you weld your bumpers on while you're at it. No sense in doing it half assed ya know. LOL

[BigMudTruk]

Trail-Gear now offers a fully welded Rock Slider kit for Tacoma Extra-cab Pickups. Made from 1 3/4" X .120" wall Tubing. Includes 4 legs with gussets on each slider. We recommend welding bars directly to the frame. Sliders can also be bolted on using holes in gussets. Fits 1995-2003 Tacoma Extra Cab. Sliders are 78" long $299 per pair.

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/tacoma-sliders-600.jpg

Any pics of these on a truck so we can get an idea how far they stick out?

[tbst]

There is on one the website, if you got to sliders, then installation guide, then you can see the pic.

[hlpressley]

I got my sliders in last week and I love them so far. I will try to get some pics up soon! Great deal Chris!

[tderose]

As much as Dick doesn't like me, I have to agree with him about the slider issue. Who would weld on tube ends to the ouside of the frame knowing that this product is a wear item and is supposed to take abuse? I would much rather have a bolt on application myself for my 98 reg cab tacoma! I see you offer them for a pretty good price. Does the bolt on application come with mounting brackets or is that something I would have to fab up? :saw:

[NorcalPR]

I was fortunate that I did bolt on, because I bolted on my sliders about 2 hours before I rolled my truck. Would they have been weld on, they'd probably be at the junkyard right now...

Now I just bolted them on my truck yesterday!

[synovus]

Would they have been weld on, they'd probably be at the junkyard right now...

If they had been weld-on, I bet you could've cut 'em off quicker with a sawzall or torch quicker than you could've unbolted 'em. :D

[NorcalPR]

Yeah, but then I'd have to work at them again to remake the legs and brackets...

I had my buddy help, we had both of them off in about half a hour. Just unbolt, then stand on them and let um fall...

[Trail-Gear Inc.]

Here is a photo of the bars on a 99 4Runner. They stick out the same as this on the Tacoma.

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/4runnermarch-600.jpg

We do not have the fully welded version for standard cab yet, but we do have the weld togeter kit for standard cab Tacoma's.

Just this week we released FJ Cruiser version of the sliders. These are in stock and ready to ship.

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/fjsliders-600.jpg

[1985 4Runner]

those new gussets look interesting... :welder:

Very nice.

[purity]

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/4runnermarch-600.jpg
is that paint off the rocker panel on top of that slider?

[hlpressley]

That is probably where the welder burnt the paint.

[synovus]

Or where the paint is chipping from the sliders flexing.

[Darwalk]

or from not priming them, and people stepping on them there.....or from.....or from........

[synovus]

Dem folks gots some tiny feets if they be steppin' there where the paint be flakin'.

[flatlander]

Just recieved my sliders 07/13/06...Mine came with brackets already welded and ready to be painted...They shipped for free! Damn nice, welding on tonight!

[hlpressley]

is that paint off the rocker panel on top of that slider?


Now that I have put mine on I can tell you. That is where he scraped the paint off so he could weld the legs on. I had to do the same thing and then go back and touch them up.

[flatlander]

So, last night I went to weld these onto my truck and they did not fit the best. I was a little disappointed, but after some cutting, I did get them to match up and fit straight. They sent me 2 of the same side, so I had to cut one of the brackets off and fab a new one myself...if I hadn't already painted them I would have sent them back.

[wslytoy]

any word on bumpers yet?

[SoCalSpaugh]

Trail-Gear now offers a fully welded Rock Slider kit for Tacoma Extra-cab Pickups. Made from 1 3/4" X .120" wall Tubing. Includes 4 legs with gussets on each slider. We recommend welding bars directly to the frame. Sliders can also be bolted on using holes in gussets. Fits 1995-2003 Tacoma Extra Cab. Sliders are 78" long $299 per pair.

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/tacoma-sliders-600.jpg

Do these fit the 2004 extra cab? I wasn't aware there was a difference in the frames on 03 vs 04. I am considering these for my 04 tacoma, but would really like to see pics of how much room there is between the rail and the body metal. I would like to see at least 1/2" space between the inner rail and the body.

[CWest]

Do these fit the 2004 extra cab? I wasn't aware there was a difference in the frames on 03 vs 04. I am considering these for my 04 tacoma, but would really like to see pics of how much room there is between the rail and the body metal. I would like to see at least 1/2" space between the inner rail and the body.

they will fit...