Late model tacos ride any better?

[97TacoDude]

Do the 2005+ model Tacos ride any better than the early model Tacos? I know that a truck is a truck and not supposed to ride like a caddy but just curious if the ride is any better. Thanks for any info dudes.

[05 taco access cab]

i love the way mine handles... just go to a dealer near you and take one for a test drive.

[TRD4WD]

i love the way mine handles... just go to a dealer near you and take one for a test drive.
Just be warned now, when you go to do this test drive, have your older truck cleaned out and ready to trade in, because it will be hard to walk away from not buying it right then and there.

[SP Jon M3]

Just be warned now, when you go to do this test drive, have your older truck cleaned out and ready to trade in, because it will be hard to walk away from not buying it right then and there.

Did you see me at the dealer last year?? :eek:

[genrec]

I had a new 2000, 2002, and 2004 taco prerunner.....now have a 06 taco prerunner....no comparison...its like 2 completely differntly trucks, they've come along way IMO.

[TACODOC]

I've had a 79 truck, an 88 4Runner, an 01 PreRunner and an 03 TRD 4WD Tacoma. Now I have one I'm going to keep.
Toyota has come a long way, and the new Tacoma is a very sweet ride IMO :kewl:

[Comattack]

Just be warned now, when you go to do this test drive, have your older truck cleaned out and ready to trade in, because it will be hard to walk away from not buying it right then and there.
Unless your the analytical type like me...

I've already test driven 3 New Tacomas. :D

Actually I AM buying one though. I decided that before I test drove one though. Just wanted to feel the difference in a different configuration, and one XR just for the heck of it! :cool:

I'm sold! Tax return comes and I'm ordering mine! :driving:

[Shakerhood]

I sure hope it still rides like a Pick Up Truck, Companies have really been Sissyfying Trucks lately!

[fast frank]

SISSIFIED?

My TRD Sport sends this bitchslap to you. :bitchslap

Fast Frank

[OR_05Taco]

I sure hope it still rides like a Pick Up Truck, Companies have really been Sissyfying Trucks lately!

So what is your definition of "rides like a pick up truck"? Does a truck have to ride rough for it to be not "sissified"? I do think that overall the truck market is "sissifying" trucks, but I welcome many of the refinements (like a nice ride). As long as they don't interfere with capability, then why not have the refinements? :2cents:

[ricomann]

I've had a 79 truck, an 88 4Runner, an 01 PreRunner and an 03 TRD 4WD Tacoma. Now I have one I'm going to keep.
Toyota has come a long way, and the new Tacoma is a very sweet ride IMO :kewl:

shit, you skipped the 90's????

[GOT COPE?]

I've had a 79 truck, an 88 4Runner, an 01 PreRunner and an 03 TRD 4WD Tacoma. Now I have one I'm going to keep.
Toyota has come a long way, and the new Tacoma is a very sweet ride IMO :kewl:

Id take the 79 or the 03.

[pat161]

It is longer, wider and slightly lower so it will definitely have a smoother more refined ride. Whether or not that translates into a better ride is a matter of opinion. My friend has an 03 Yukon which rides like a luxury car, but I will take my 00 Runner over his truck any day, I prefer the more truck like feel.

[trd2001]

I had 99 prerunner, 01 4x4, and a 99 4x4 trd. I test drove an 05 4x4 sport, and it rode better then my 99 4x4 trd. I bought the 4runner since it has a v8, and i tow a 5500 lbs trailer, and i like the sound of a v8 with an exaust :D

[TACODOC]

shit, you skipped the 90's????
Yeah, that 4Runner was one mean machine - drove her until 01. RIP :xcrybaby:
That truck and my 05 are my all time favorite Toys.

[Interex]

When I test drove an 05 it was a completely different ride quality. Felt like it was big, built strong, and stable. I had my heart set on buying one but decided to wait for the new Tundra as I'll probably turn my truck into a trail vehicle.

[SP Jon M3]

...but decided to wait for the new Tundra...

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/newtundra/tundra.html?s_van=GM_HOME_NEWTUNDRA_TXT

[white_eskimo]

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/newtundra/tundra.html?s_van=GM_HOME_NEWTUNDRA_TXT

wow toyota really seems to be appealing to the loggers specifically with this new tundra. The fact of the matter is loggers dont go wheeling through the forest. The forester and the property owner would throw a major shit fit if their roads were all ripped up. The whole idea of treading lightly really applies out there. Minimizing damage to the forest floor is a biggie. BTW, you might want to post this in the new "07 Tundra" in the off topic section...

[Shakerhood]

So what is your definition of "rides like a pick up truck"? Does a truck have to ride rough for it to be not "sissified"? I do think that overall the truck market is "sissifying" trucks, but I welcome many of the refinements (like a nice ride). As long as they don't interfere with capability, then why not have the refinements? :2cents:


Thank You for having the Guts to agree that the entire Truck Industry has been Sissyfying the Truck Market! MUCH lower ground clearance so Soccer Mom cant get in and out at the Mall, IFS and all season tires so the ride is smooth and pleasant for the trip to the mall, silly push button 4 wheel drive so lazy people only have to press a button on the dash. I just wonder how long before they strip away the beloved manual tranny option!

[white_eskimo]

Thank You for having the Guts to agree that the entire Truck Industry has been Sissyfying the Truck Market! MUCH lower ground clearance so Soccer Mom cant get in and out at the Mall, IFS and all season tires so the ride is smooth and pleasant for the trip to the mall, silly push button 4 wheel drive so lazy people only have to press a button on the dash. I just wonder how long before they strip away the beloved manual tranny option!

you do realize how boring and uneventful 4wheeling if anyone could buy a hardcore rig right off the dealer lot. half the fun is doing the SAC and installing lockers and all that good stuff. Trucks arent becoming more and more "sissfied", they are becoming more and more practical for the everyday user. Now if you want to push your truck to the limits in the certain area, there are great afer market companies which allow you to customize your truck to best suit your needs. Lets face it, if everyone could buy a lifted rig with 37'' tires locked front and rear with a SFA, what the hell would be so special about 4wheeling?

i personally enjoy having a "sissy"/practical truck which drives wonderfully, and if i feel like it, i always know that i have the option of altering some things to make it become a bad ass rig.

my :2cents:

[OR_05Taco]

Thank You for having the Guts to agree that the entire Truck Industry has been Sissyfying the Truck Market! MUCH lower ground clearance so Soccer Mom cant get in and out at the Mall, IFS and all season tires so the ride is smooth and pleasant for the trip to the mall, silly push button 4 wheel drive so lazy people only have to press a button on the dash. I just wonder how long before they strip away the beloved manual tranny option!

Well, I agree with you in SOME aspects.

Lower ground clearance - true, but if I recall it didn't change all that much from 04-05. What was it? Like an inch? I do agree though, this is one are in where things area headed the wrong direction.

IFS - Well, for MANY wheelers IFS is sufficient. Especially if you throw in some nice COs and aftermarket UCAs. For all around wheeling, IFS is not the devil IMO. For specialized wheeling (rock crawling), IFS is not ideal. I don't really see this as an area where trucks have been sissified, although solid axles would be nice as an option.

All season tires - Again, many people don't need boggers to do what they do. For alot of wheelers ATs are sufficient.

Push button 4 wheel drive - This is one where I really disagree with you. I understand the whole KISS theory and the appeal of a manual transfer case lever. However, I really love my "push button" 4WD on my 05. When conditions change fast (icey roads, a little snow, whatever) simply flipping that dial is very convenient. Call it lazy or whatever you want, but I call it convenience. Also, I am still waiting for anyone to present a case where an 05-up Tacoma has had the dial-select 4WD fail. This was discussed at length in another thread a while back, and no one has had one fail yet. Granted, they're only 1-2 years old now, but there's quite a few people on here with 05s using their "push button" 4WD. When and if these selectors begin to drop like flies I will say you were right to everyone who hates them. Until then, I like mine.

[JMULTY]

I just blew my '93 engine after 233,000 miles. Sold it for $1,000. Going to get my 06 DC tomorrow. had an 87 prior. I can't even start to explain the differences.
If I can push a button to engage 4x4 - who cares.
My for-fathers built fires, now I set the thermostat. Get the point. Easier, efficiency does not make a truck or it's functions weenie.
You know by now Toyota is ROCK SOLID.

[Shakerhood]

Well, I agree with you in SOME aspects.

Lower ground clearance - true, but if I recall it didn't change all that much from 04-05. What was it? Like an inch? I do agree though, this is one are in where things area headed the wrong direction.

IFS - Well, for MANY wheelers IFS is sufficient. Especially if you throw in some nice COs and aftermarket UCAs. For all around wheeling, IFS is not the devil IMO. For specialized wheeling (rock crawling), IFS is not ideal. I don't really see this as an area where trucks have been sissified, although solid axles would be nice as an option.

All season tires - Again, many people don't need boggers to do what they do. For alot of wheelers ATs are sufficient.

Push button 4 wheel drive - This is one where I really disagree with you. I understand the whole KISS theory and the appeal of a manual transfer case lever. However, I really love my "push button" 4WD on my 05. When conditions change fast (icey roads, a little snow, whatever) simply flipping that dial is very convenient. Call it lazy or whatever you want, but I call it convenience. Also, I am still waiting for anyone to present a case where an 05-up Tacoma has had the dial-select 4WD fail. This was discussed at length in another thread a while back, and no one has had one fail yet. Granted, they're only 1-2 years old now, but there's quite a few people on here with 05s using their "push button" 4WD. When and if these selectors begin to drop like flies I will say you were right to everyone who hates them. Until then, I like mine.


I will say the Clam Shell doors on the extended cabs are nice, I hate the idea of the push button 4 wheel drive because I know when I need it the worst that is when it is going to fail!

[trailtaco]

I just wonder how long before they strip away the beloved manual tranny option!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

[SR-71Taco]

To answer the original question... yes.

[jc3835]

My answer to the orginial question of a better ride is also YES.
Had my '06 for a few days now... it is a much quieter and smoother ride of the previous generations.
Saying it's getting sissified is irrelevent. No manufacturer is going to sell solid axel trucks just so a select few can go rock crawling.

[Shakerhood]

My answer to the orginial question of a better ride is also YES.
Had my '06 for a few days now... it is a much quieter and smoother ride of the previous generations.
Saying it's getting sissified is irrelevent. No manufacturer is going to sell solid axel trucks just so a select few can go rock crawling.

My point was the General Truck Industry has gone Sissyfied or Girlie if you will, you took it strictly out of context with the Soild Axle. Look at that ugly hunk a trash Honda is trying to pawn off as a Pick up truck, If you want something that rides like a damn Caddy, go buy one!

[SP Jon M3]

you do realize how boring and uneventful 4wheeling if anyone could buy a hardcore rig right off the dealer lot. half the fun is doing the SAC and installing lockers and all that good stuff.

I couldn't agree more...

Besides.. what's best for rock crawling (solid axle) isn't best for high speed desert running (long travel). So is Toyota supposed to build a LT for desert and SA for rock crawling. If they only built a SA truck you'd hear the desert guys calling foul!

Build your own, go wheeling :driving: and call it a day! :thumbs:

[Shakerhood]

Nothing like shelling out between 25 and 30 grand only to have to start throwing a ton of money at it and voiding your warranty!

[fast frank]

Nothing like shelling out between 25 and 30 grand only to have to start throwing a ton of money at it and voiding your warranty!

Now how would you know that? You have never done it.

Fast Frank

[tbrown]

Nothing like shelling out between 25 and 30 grand only to have to start throwing a ton of money at it and voiding your warranty!
Law states that the dealer would have to prove that the aftermarket part did the damage, not easy to do when there are a so many other people out there with the same aftermarket parts bolted to their rigs without problems. So your warranty is still in full effect.

[Shakerhood]

Law states that the dealer would have to prove that the aftermarket part did the damage, not easy to do when there are a so many other people out there with the same aftermarket parts bolted to their rigs without problems. So your warranty is still in full effect.

I know what the law is, but have fun trying. There are Guys all over the board with problems with unmodded stuff having problems with the Dealers let alone ones that have been modded and wheeled.

[Nitro375]

Amen brother, I too was bitten!!!

[Archer32]

I had an 04 Extended Cab 4X4 V-6 TRD and the 05 handles like a sportcar compared to the 04 in my opionion.

Offroad I'm not sure If I can tell a difference.

[scottB]

Could you be a little more specific, I am having a hard time quantifyingThere are Guys all over the board with problems with unmodded stuff having problems with the Dealers let alone ones that have been modded and wheeled. For this statement to have value it should have some detail to verify it.

You obviously do not have an opinion to contribute to this thread. If you want to argue how modifications affect factory warranties, please do, but take it to the correct folder. And if you are looking for a place to insult, or just express you opinion about how you hate the new tacoma's, I suggest you go find one of the many threads on this topic.

Do not take this the wrong way, i do not wish to argue. I just hate to see people wasting there time on a troll.
cheers

[TacoTony]

I have an '05 Taco. I put a slide in pop up truck camper on it. Then I loaded it down with surfboards, windsurf gear,bikes,water,food,tools,gas,camping gear,etc. Then I drove to Baja and spent 4 months driving on rough,bumpy,rocky,washboard dirt roads looking for good surf spots. Pretty much beating the crap out of it. Then I came home and unloaded everything and took the powerwasher to it. It looks and drives like it just came off the showroom floor. Mall cruiser my ass. I had a '99 and '03 Tacos before and loved them. But the '05 just fit me better, and I liked that it has more power and it still has a small truck feel. The truck is stock except for a set of BFG AT's. I can imagine how insane it will be with a set of hoes and leafs.

[taco420]

I sure hope it still rides like a Pick Up Truck, Companies have really been Sissyfying Trucks lately!

you would think one of the major auto manufacturers out there would put a serios off road vehicle into production. you no., something with 35s,switchable lockers, lots of ground clearance.maybe a crawler, winches front and rear. basically something that could go anywhere. no luxury bs. just enough to be street legal. if it was kept simple it could probably be produced cheaper than most cars found on the road today. and you know theyed sell great and you wouldnt have to spend tons of money on it to make it capable off road. theres tons of people out their that love wheeling.

[J*C*M]

you would think one of the major auto manufacturers out there would put a serios off road vehicle into production. you no., something with 35s,switchable lockers, lots of ground clearance.maybe a crawler, winches front and rear. basically something that could go anywhere. no luxury bs. just enough to be street legal. if it was kept simple it could probably be produced cheaper than most cars found on the road today. and you know theyed sell great and you wouldnt have to spend tons of money on it to make it capable off road. theres tons of people out their that love wheeling.

Almost anywhere else in the world, there is just no money in it in the US. If you wheel, and hang out with people who wheel. Then you may forget that not many people will ever intentionally leave the pavement with their trucks, much less try to climb mountains with them! You want to get a truck that has been kept the most in line with stock hard core rockcrawling go buy a rubicon. Or move to africa, I drove some sick trucks over there.

[J*C*M]

Plus I don't care where you are on a small truck 35's aren't NEEDED anywhere, therefore the demand will never be enough to make them profitable to produce on a stock truck.

[kodiak]

you would think one of the major auto manufacturers out there would put a serios off road vehicle into production. you no., something with 35s,switchable lockers, lots of ground clearance.maybe a crawler, winches front and rear. basically something that could go anywhere. no luxury bs. just enough to be street legal. if it was kept simple it could probably be produced cheaper than most cars found on the road today. and you know theyed sell great and you wouldnt have to spend tons of money on it to make it capable off road. theres tons of people out their that love wheeling.


The Dodge Power Wagon is pretty close. Winch, electronic disconnecting swaybar, lockers, etc.

Other than the fact the damned thing is huge.

[white_eskimo]

you would think one of the major auto manufacturers out there would put a serios off road vehicle into production. you no., something with 35s,switchable lockers, lots of ground clearance.maybe a crawler, winches front and rear. basically something that could go anywhere. no luxury bs. just enough to be street legal. if it was kept simple it could probably be produced cheaper than most cars found on the road today. and you know theyed sell great and you wouldnt have to spend tons of money on it to make it capable off road. theres tons of people out their that love wheeling.

do you know how horrible that would be? think of how many random people would buy the damn rig and think they can tackle anything. there would be so many more roll overs and accidents from idiots buying off road rigs because they think it looks "cool", and when the time comes to wheel in the thing, they wouldnt know wtf they are doing. Half the beauty of 4wheeling is that YOU get to build up your shit yourself and you get to see how everything works and comes together. 4wheeling would suck if a bunch of asshats could go out and buy rigs with no knowledge of how they worked and then call themselves 4wheelers. my :2cents:

[OR_05Taco]

do you know how horrible that would be? think of how many random people would buy the damn rig and think they can tackle anything. there would be so many more roll overs and accidents from idiots buying off road rigs because they think it looks "cool", and when the time comes to wheel in the thing, they wouldnt know wtf they are doing. Half the beauty of 4wheeling is that YOU get to build up your shit yourself and you get to see how everything works and comes together. 4wheeling would suck if a bunch of asshats could go out and buy rigs with no knowledge of how they worked and then call themselves 4wheelers. my :2cents:

I agree. Also - much of the fun in wheeling is checking out other people's rigs. I could see a guy out on a trail with the exact same truck as me, but we will probably have different suspensions, different bumpers, sliders, etc, etc. Even checking out others' rigs on here, it is sweet. We look at each others trucks, get ideas, and continue to customize our own. How boring would it be if every truck on the trail was a cookie cut-out and they were all the same?

[robothump]

I'm waitning for the FJ in 2007, now that looks like a sweet vehicle. Looking to keep 05 tacoma and get rid landcruiser 99 with the FJ if it family grocery getter enough.

[Shakerhood]

Could you be a little more specific, I am having a hard time quantifying For this statement to have value it should have some detail to verify it.

You obviously do not have an opinion to contribute to this thread. If you want to argue how modifications affect factory warranties, please do, but take it to the correct folder. And if you are looking for a place to insult, or just express you opinion about how you hate the new tacoma's, I suggest you go find one of the many threads on this topic.

Do not take this the wrong way, i do not wish to argue. I just hate to see people wasting there time on a troll.
cheers

I dont hate the New Tacomas, I never said that anywhere along the way!

[GOT COPE?]

I dont hate the New Tacomas, I never said that anywhere along the way!



I do. I hate em they suck. :flipoff3:
























:p Lol jk I really like the OR_05 ?????? Taco w/ the AP bumper and Cedarbarns Taco is sweet too. :D

[GOT COPE?]

Although I must add I havent personally seen one in action, I really cant wait. Esp to see one like the two I listed above in action.
I still wouldnt trade mine for one, but the hate has worn off lol :)

[OR_05Taco]

:p Lol jk I really like the OR_05 ?????? Taco w/ the AP bumper....

Awwwww, thanks! :o

:D

[GOT COPE?]

Awwwww, thanks! :o

:D

There we go OR_05Taco. I was too lazy to scroll and find it. :D Sweet ride, and the M4? you were shooting was a factory option right? :)



EDIT: Damn I had your name right, I just needed to remove the ? marks :doh:

[TACODOC]

Thank You for having the Guts to agree that the entire Truck Industry has been Sissyfying the Truck Market! MUCH lower ground clearance so Soccer Mom cant get in and out at the Mall, IFS and all season tires so the ride is smooth and pleasant for the trip to the mall, silly push button 4 wheel drive so lazy people only have to press a button on the dash. I just wonder how long before they strip away the beloved manual tranny option!
:soapbox:
OK. At least Toyota still makes a "real" 4WD with a low range and a locker with a "silly push button". MUCH lower ground clearance you say? Do you know the subtle difference between a "push button" and a "switch"? Have you even driven one and used it so you'd know what the hell you're talking about? :bitchslap

Comparitively, when bone stock, the new Tacomas ride AND wheel better than the older gen, IMHO. But, it's comparing apples to oranges. I know, I've owned both, but thats just my :2cents:
Later,
...Doc

[OR_05Taco]

There we go OR_05Taco. I was too lazy to scroll and find it. :D Sweet ride, and the M4? you were shooting was a factory option right? :)



EDIT: Damn I had your name right, I just needed to remove the ? marks :doh:

Haha, no, the M4 is not quite factory. Bushmaster A3 16 in. carbine with:
5 port phantom flash supp., 6 pos. telescoping stock, Eotech holosight (military/law enforcement model), Wilson Combat free-floating rail system, GG&G back-up iron sight, Surefire M95 series Tac-light, vertical foregrip, HK91 style Ergo-grip, Wilson Combat extended charging handle release... I think that's it.
It's fun - I tried to build it close to my M4 I carried in Iraq but made a few improvements along the way too.

Sorry for the off-topic to those who aren't into guns!!! :o

[GOT COPE?]

Sorry for the off-topic to those who aren't into guns!!! :o

Its alright ;) trucks and guns go together like peas and carrots. But yeah we'll keep it on topic for on topic's sake :D

[Shakerhood]

:soapbox:
OK. At least Toyota still makes a "real" 4WD with a low range and a locker with a "silly push button". MUCH lower ground clearance you say? Do you know the subtle difference between a "push button" and a "switch"? Have you even driven one and used it so you'd know what the hell you're talking about? :bitchslap

Comparitively, when bone stock, the new Tacomas ride AND wheel better than the older gen, IMHO. But, it's comparing apples to oranges. I know, I've owned both, but thats just my :2cents:
Later,
...Doc

Sorry for the use of the generic auto industry word "Push Button" for "Switch".

[Nitro375]

Way better than my old 98 TRD EXt. cab long bed or my Bronco, very nice!

[kapelusprime]

Thank You for having the Guts to agree that the entire Truck Industry has been Sissyfying the Truck Market! MUCH lower ground clearance so Soccer Mom cant get in and out at the Mall, IFS and all season tires so the ride is smooth and pleasant for the trip to the mall, silly push button 4 wheel drive so lazy people only have to press a button on the dash. I just wonder how long before they strip away the beloved manual tranny option!


If you know any thing about the history of the trucks; Then what your driving today is "girlie" The first trucks didn't have enclosed cabs, synchronize transmissions , little to no articulation and NO radio. You being a "Truck purist" the fact that most trail rigs do not have a purpose for real work other than to crawl over rocks till you get to the end of the trail, would mean it's not a truck at all but a glorified four wheeler. The thing of it is, the definition of "truck" today is what you need to get a job done. Unlike the 1910"s when international harvester and Ford put out tractors with a flat bed, time has moved forward. They made a cab weather tight because people got tired of being cold and wet. The trans. in your truck needs no double clutching in order to shift, hell most people including a good number of "wheelers" have no idea of what that is. The very fact that a company like Toyota even make a "truck" Like the Tacoma SFA or IFS is because the definition of what's wanted and more importantly what's needed is evolving. Trucks with high centers of gravity tend to tip. insurance company tend to charge more for that kind of thing and it costs the owner more. If you have a load of ply wood in the bed for a home improvement or a load of fire would the last thing you want to do is take that "truck" on the highway and change lanes with a vehicle that tends to tip. After all if a "girlie" truck is not capable of doing work, then in the "truck purist" eyes what good is it? I guess what I'm saying, all sarcasm aside is if innovation is called being "girlie" than that might be a short sited opinion. :2cents:

Oh and the answer is yes my 05 drives much better on road than my friends 03, off road he is smaller so he gets in and out of tight spaces better ;but the capablity is about the same :D

[kapelusprime]

Haha, no, the M4 is not quite factory. Bushmaster A3 16 in. carbine with:
5 port phantom flash supp., 6 pos. telescoping stock, Eotech holosight (military/law enforcement model), Wilson Combat free-floating rail system, GG&G back-up iron sight, Surefire M95 series Tac-light, vertical foregrip, HK91 style Ergo-grip, Wilson Combat extended charging handle release... I think that's it.
It's fun - I tried to build it close to my M4 I carried in Iraq but made a few improvements along the way too.

Sorry for the off-topic to those who aren't into guns!!! :o

Don't like the stock on the m4 my ar15 got the old school stock on mine.
I hit 40 out of 40 at qualify with the old a2 but tend to find the a4 to light in my hands.
By the way welcome back spent some time in SCS Scania and Kalsu

[Sisyphus]

Bump - Just because I wanted to see how many n00bs would post on it without looking at the date... LOL Merry Christmas TTORA!

[MysticGold04]

Hahahah! I wondered who had bumped an almost year-old-thread!

[GOT COPE?]

Bump - Just because I wanted to see how many n00bs would post on it without looking at the date... LOL Merry Christmas TTORA!

Thats funny a shit. Merry Christmas.

[n9emz]

I'm a noob and glad you dredged it up. I haven't owned a Toyota truck before, but I have owned and worked every US small pickup made over the years....my '05 AC TRD/OR w/4.0, automatic and 3.73s will kick all of their tails for ride quality, comfort and haulability....and would probably romp the old S-10 SS I thought was the fastest small truck in history.

I have 2400 on the trip odometer on the return leg of a three week holiday vacation with the wife holding down the navigator's seat. From interstate cruising at 75 mph to 14 mile jaunts on FL bottomless sugar sand and 1' deep clay mud roads, this truck has performed in the finest of style, and we grin every time we climb in it.

There ain't no doubt you're driving a truck when you get behind the wheel, but the comfort's along the lines of our '05 Camry. it's an awesome performer for what it is and it's designed to be....best small truck buy out there in my opinion.