Where's the pics....?

[91toyota4x4]

Drew? Steven? Post up. Today was a good day for some wheeling.

[Iggy]

lol now i cant the damn thing out of park.....

[usmcracing]

I will later, I don't time right now.

[usmcracing]

Go to the yahoo photos link in my sig for pics of wheeling Sat.

You'll see some nice damage on a 04 Taco and 95 Pickup, owners names will be kept secert.

[usmcracing]

lol now i cant the damn thing out of park.....

You may have bent the shift leakage.

[Neil426]

lol now i cant the damn thing out of park.....
There should be a small rectangle or square cut out on the top of the console just forward of the shifter.its about the size of a postage stamp. pop it out and there is a shift interlock overide button. Push it down and shift freely.

[91toyota4x4]

I think the 04 took the brunt of the body damage. But the extended cabs had about equal.

[usmcracing]

Drew's truck took twice as much damage then Iggy's, After you left we hit a few tight trails. Look at the last few pics and you'll see.

[91toyota4x4]

Dude when i got home I found alot more on mine too :rolleyes:

My rear bumper dented the crap out of the bottom rear edges of the bed, I got a big dent in front of the gas tank, drivers door a little wrinkled, drivers wheel well has a drease in it now. Good thing it doesn't really bother me, lol. Charachter!

Still had a ton of fun.

I was thinking when looking at the pics that Drew's truck looked alot more dented than when I left. I got that idler arm fixed to so now my steering doesn't lock up anymore.

[Iggy]

yeah i got plenty of charecter did any one exept steve notice my rear driverside right b4 i left i put a big big dent in it bbigest one i have
like the dude with the jeep said u missed an awsome picture of drew when he was trying to go up that rock . he was up in the air for about a sec but i would have look awsome

[bosco]

Damn you guys sure know how to give it to your rigs!!! :cool:

[Iggy]

lol bosco next we will see what happens im gonna get some protection b4 i go again but i got plenty of charecter now

[91toyota4x4]

OK I didn't see this one until just now

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nezsm76/detail?.dir=c5bb&.dnm=b4eere2.jpg&.src=ph

That is pretty nasty...

[bosco]

lol bosco next we will see what happens im gonna get some protection b4 i go again but i got plenty of charecter now


Its a little late for protection now isnt it? ;)

[Iggy]

lol true

[usmcracing]

Damn you guys sure know how to give it to your rigs!!! :cool:


I guess I don't like to go out to a wheeling area and find a nice rock and get a flex shot and call it a day like a couple of you.


I bought my 4Runner to do one thing and one thing only WHEEL IT. If wanted something to look nice that I'd keep waxed I would have bought another Cobra. Now if I owned a 04 Taco you wouldn't see me wheeling it as hard as I do the Runner either.

[usmcracing]

lol bosco next we will see what happens im gonna get some protection b4 i go again but i got plenty of charecter now

Iggy here you go, All Pro front and rear bumper


http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26629

[Iggy]

http://www.badlandbumpers.com/Index_files/taco%20rear%207a.jpg

http://www.badlandbumpers.com/Index_files/revtek15.jpg

cost is 975$ brand new i dont like the way allpros front looks i mean i might as well be picky about it

[bosco]

I guess I don't like to go out to a wheeling area and find a nice rock and get a flex shot and call it a day like a couple of you.


I bought my 4Runner to do one thing and one thing only WHEEL IT. If wanted something to look nice that I'd keep waxed I would have bought another Cobra. Now if I owned a 04 Taco you wouldn't see me wheeling it as hard as I do the Runner either.


Now you have made that comment more than once and you always seem to aim it at me...but if you recall I have done everything you have and will at least attempt everything that it put in front of my rig. I just like to do it with a little more finness. :p My rig is also purpose built like yours and although I will cry when that inevitable body damage happens, it will not keep me from doing any paticular trail or obsticle. You forget that I am building in preperation to live within a few hours drive of the hammers!!! :cool:

[bosco]

http://www.badlandbumpers.com/Index_files/taco%20rear%207a.jpg

http://www.badlandbumpers.com/Index_files/revtek15.jpg

cost is 975$ brand new i dont like the way allpros front looks i mean i might as well be picky about it

Whos front bumper is that? I dig it! I need one for my taco.

[Iggy]

www.badlandbumpers.com
the guy has abunch of toyota parts too just email him

http://www.badlandbumpers.com/Index_files/badrunner%20front%20bumper2.jpg

[Iggy]

im gonna wheel the hell out of my taco lol as soon as i get them mog axles lol

[usmcracing]

I'm sure you will.

So you get your truck out of park?

What did you mom and pop say about the dents?

[Iggy]

i guess they havent noticed lol and no i cant get it out of park i mean i can but i gotta put some muscle into it

[Toxic]

Yes I have even said that you wheel your 4runner hard but I have never ment anything bad by it....I think its cool to watch the things u r will'in to try :D ..It's not mine so I dont have to worry about fixin it...I to got a nice dent and a twisted bumper on my first time out but I like to take it easy on mine to...but am in no way affarid to dent/scratch or break it..Now I can say that the prez comment about you doing to water if you want to was not to be takin badly...He was just wanting to get back to camp so he could make sure his rig was going to be fine..I mean the water made his nerves bad to where he askd me for a cig and he hasnt smoked in like 2 years ..He let everyone know that if they wanted to go on it was fine he was just not going to go and I cant blam him..Water in your motor takes something out of ya for the day..but I dont belive it was ment to hurt you...Im gald that I got in a culb with as many nice people that are here..This club is to small for us to be fightin or pissd off at each other..Im gald that we all can work things out and have a good time wheelin..everyone wheels different and one one should get on any one for the way the want to wheel thier rig...YOU BUILD IT/YOU DRIVE IT/YOU BREAK IT/YOU FIX IT..WHO CARES...Its all part of wheelin:driving:

[usmcracing]

You'r right and I believe everything you say. I understand the Brain was wanting to get back to camp that day, been there done that only my engine was locked up. I never heard anyone ask if anyone else wanted to keep going on that trail. I have heard of some the stuff that has been said about me and Drew at the last camp out after we left. I feel that me and Drew looked at like the black sheep of the group.

[Toxic]

As far as I know about that last camp out I didnt hear any body talkin bad...Was just more wonderin why you guys didnt come with us...I know you wanted to play on other trails and was fine with that...We all statred to wonder what happened to you guys as the night went on but dont belive anybody though you were the balck sheep but there might have been people that thought that...I cant speak for eveyone but I cant say that I heard it form anyone..Some times it good to split into different groups and have no prob with it..To many rigs on one trail can be a bad thing..Its all good and I have a blast each time I go out and hope everone eles does to..

[91toyota4x4]

I know a guy in GATTORA that has that badlands bumper and it is sweet!

As for all of this other talk and whatever I think everyone likes to wheel thier truck a little differently. I know deep water doesn't bother some of you that much but it scares me, but some people are afraid of a little body damage or breaking crap and I don't mind a little wrinkle in the sheet metal. Everyone's different.

[usmcracing]

Ryan I'm cool and I know everyone has their style. I just had all that building up and I had to get it out.

[Iggy]

semper fi do or die
how can i get them dents out

[91toyota4x4]

semper fi do or die
how can i get them dents out

Don't even bother trying... haha.

[Neil426]

:rolleyes:
I don't know how to start. I've sat here trying to think of something witty to say in my defense. Although I shouldn't need to defend myself for wanting to "take it easy on my Toyota." I've had my share of beaten rigs. The last one was my 85 extracab. The bed rails saw trees every time I went out. There was not a straight panel on that truck, drive shafts twisted off and driving home in 4wd. I can go on if need be. I don't want to do that to my new Runner that I have worked so hard on, especially when I'm so close to being able to build my own body protection.
As for group events, the president and VP have the responsibility of making the unpopular decisions for the group as a whole. It has always been my philosophy to error on the side of caution. That being said, if someone does not feel comfortable doing an obstacle, making a water crossing, or subjecting their rig to unnecessary damage I will make the decision for the group to turn around. If anyone wants to continue on then so be it, so long as they can safely continue on. Rest assured that when Steven made the water crossing Brian and I both kicked ourselves and said that Steve made that look easy.
Lastly, and I'm sure that I have done this to some of you. If you are about to try something that has the potential for damage I will be the first one to tap on the drivers window and ask," Are you sure you want to try that?"
Because if I didn't, and you guys broke something or dented something or rolled over and it could have been prevented.....wouldn't you be pissed? I would be.

[Iggy]

niel can u make some sliders for me

[Neil426]

niel can u make some sliders for me
Yes, I can. Although they would have to be square tube. I still don't have the bender up and running.

[Iggy]

should i wait then?

[Neil426]

That depends on you. It is going to hinge on the sale of a few things.

[Iggy]

what u mean? u got a phone # i can use to contact u?

[usmcracing]

:rolleyes:
I don't know how to start. I've sat here trying to think of something witty to say in my defense. Although I shouldn't need to defend myself for wanting to "take it easy on my Toyota." I've had my share of beaten rigs. The last one was my 85 extracab. The bed rails saw trees every time I went out. There was not a straight panel on that truck, drive shafts twisted off and driving home in 4wd. I can go on if need be. I don't want to do that to my new Runner that I have worked so hard on, especially when I'm so close to being able to build my own body protection.
As for group events, the president and VP have the responsibility of making the unpopular decisions for the group as a whole. It has always been my philosophy to error on the side of caution. That being said, if someone does not feel comfortable doing an obstacle, making a water crossing, or subjecting their rig to unnecessary damage I will make the decision for the group to turn around. If anyone wants to continue on then so be it, so long as they can safely continue on. Rest assured that when Steven made the water crossing Brian and I both kicked ourselves and said that Steve made that look easy.
Lastly, and I'm sure that I have done this to some of you. If you are about to try something that has the potential for damage I will be the first one to tap on the drivers window and ask," Are you sure you want to try that?"
Because if I didn't, and you guys broke something or dented something or rolled over and it could have been prevented.....wouldn't you be pissed? I would be.


Neil I think you missunderstood what I was saying. If you go back a read my post you'll see that I say there isn't anything wrong with taking it easy on your rig. The main bitch I had was people going on and on about how I drive. The one thing that you said that I qouted about you getting your flex shots has always bothered me. The reason for this is it was like you and Brain are in charge and when either of you decide the ride it over its over and the rest of have to follow. When I lead a group of 4wds on a trail ride when the trail gets tight or nasty I stop and ask everyone if they want to keep going. I don't want anyone to do anything that they normally wouldn't. Like I said before this was just building up inside and I needed to let it out.

[Iggy]

hey maybe steve dident wanna go all crazy on the trail becasue he had his child with him... but oh well cant we all just get along

[Clemsontoy]

Ill go ahgead and say my peace while everyone else is. Everyone has their own way of wheeling, and thats what makes a trail ride with a group interesting, as long as everyone is having fun and thinking safety for themselves and the group then its all good. As I have seen in our group everyone is safe and does what they feel comfortable doing. When someone does something that they may not feel comftorable doing, that is when something bad happens, peer preassure is a b!tch sometimes.If some one says no to doing an obstacle or something more than once and another person says come on do it, and they finally give in and do it they may or may not make it. As for me I wheel my truck less than some of you, and when I do go I dont wheel it all that hard, because 1) only vehicle which I drive at least 600 miles round trip to SC, GA, Tall., etc several times a month 2) not much money to fix it if it does break 3) and yes I like it to look nice every now and then. But I have had a lot of fun wheeling with everyone and will continue go on trips with yall when I can make it and can afford to make it. I wish I could go more offten, but I am trying to save money so that I can get out of Ponte Vedra and the money pit that i am living in, and into a house of my own. If I have said anything to offend anyone in the group I am sincerly sorry. We have a good core group of guys here and I hope that we can all have some more good times in the near future.

Matt

[bosco]

Yes I have even said that you wheel your 4runner hard but I have never ment anything bad by it....I think its cool to watch the things u r will'in to try :D ..It's not mine so I dont have to worry about fixin it...I to got a nice dent and a twisted bumper on my first time out but I like to take it easy on mine to...but am in no way affarid to dent/scratch or break it..Now I can say that the prez comment about you doing to water if you want to was not to be takin badly...He was just wanting to get back to camp so he could make sure his rig was going to be fine..I mean the water made his nerves bad to where he askd me for a cig and he hasnt smoked in like 2 years ..He let everyone know that if they wanted to go on it was fine he was just not going to go and I cant blam him..Water in your motor takes something out of ya for the day..but I dont belive it was ment to hurt you...Im gald that I got in a culb with as many nice people that are here..This club is to small for us to be fightin or pissd off at each other..Im gald that we all can work things out and have a good time wheelin..everyone wheels different and one one should get on any one for the way the want to wheel thier rig...YOU BUILD IT/YOU DRIVE IT/YOU BREAK IT/YOU FIX IT..WHO CARES...Its all part of wheelin:driving:

X2 :clap:

[usmcracing]

I think most of you missed this part of my post,

"I know that you and everyone wheel your Toyota's and most trend to take it easy on them when doing so and there isn't anything wrong with that. But when the few of us who wheel our Toyota harder then the others we get called out on beating on and driving our Toyota's too hard. Who are they/you to complain about how I drive?"

Can any of you see where I'm coming from with this? Or do you want me to shut the fawk up?

[Neil426]

Steve, you wheel your truck hard and there is nothing wrong with that. I applaude you in fact.
the flex shot thing was a sarcastic remark or the tail end of a sarcastic remark or joke.


Oh Yeah....Steve STFU! lol..

[Neil426]

Also if there is ever a time that someone is not happy with a decision that is made by Brian or myself please let us know. Its an open door policy around here. If it is a critical remark please PM us. Don't post it in a public forum.

[usmcracing]

Neil like I said in the first post I'm not pissed I just wanted to get it out and I'm still cool with everyone here.

Well I'll stop posting for the night around mid night since I have duty tonight and stuck in the office answering the phone with young sailors that are stuck in Vorfolk airport.

[Clemsontoy]

Yes, I see where you are comming from and I cant blame you for being a little upset, I think that what was said was prossibly taken out of context. You do wheel your runner hard and there is nothing wrong with it (like I said as long as you are safe and everyone we wheel with is from what I have seen), I think that everyone was just pointing that out, not criticising. You have the right to wheel how you want, if you can fix it if it breaks, more power to you, wheel that sh!t out of your Toyota, find the few weak parts, and their always will be weak parts, and upgrade!!

Matt

[drew95xcab]

I have to say that I had a great time saturday, yeah I did get a few more scratches than normal but hell, that's wheelin right! I know that everyone has their own style and personal level of acceptable risk to their trucks. I was/have been sort of dissapointed with the lack of planned trips and campouts and such lately. I know that there aren't that many great spots around here but dam, i figured that with as many of us as there is we could get something going. Hopefully soon I guess. just throwing in my :2cents:

[usmcracing]

LOL, A few scratches! D@mn Drew I'd hate to see what a dent looks like to you, LOL

[91toyota4x4]

I think we should do south ONF late marchish. Do that stuff before it all gets closed. Hopefully this park in Ocala opens up and we can then plan trips there that will be something a little different.

[usmcracing]

That'd be cool, Where would you like to camp at?

[bosco]

I think most of you missed this part of my post,

"I know that you and everyone wheel your Toyota's and most trend to take it easy on them when doing so and there isn't anything wrong with that. But when the few of us who wheel our Toyota harder then the others we get called out on beating on and driving our Toyota's too hard. Who are they/you to complain about how I drive?"

Can any of you see where I'm coming from with this? Or do you want me to shut the fawk up?


See steven I think you are missing the point. For one, NO ONE IS BASHING YOUR DRIVING! We coment on it because, yes it is a little more crazy than we drive our own rigs but we like the the way you drive. Its different and its fantastically entertaining. If you think at any time that any of us are talking crap about you or anything like that you need to bring it up to that person or all of us. Dont sit on it and let it build up because then it ends up like this. Just a big mess started by one missunderstanding. I can remember neils comment very vividly and it was a joke! Ya know...ha ha funny? That was his maiden voyoage not only with his runner but having his wife on a camping trip. Same thing with brians comment, I was there. He was very distressed about his engine and then you go and just plow right through it like its nothing. Who wouldnt make a sarcastic comment about that? Can you see what I mean? If nothing else just ask if you dont understand or think you may have taken something the wrong way. And for fawks sake learn to take a joke!!! We all love wheeling with you and hanging out. Just remember that we are all cool and no one (at least everyone who is in the group right now) would ever talk shit about our own. Ok? Can we be done now? I fell like I am dealing with my wife when its that time of the month! :eek: She always holds shit in until the tiniest thing blows right to hell! :rolleyes: We are all cool on this man. :beer:

[bosco]

I think we should do south ONF late marchish. Do that stuff before it all gets closed. Hopefully this park in Ocala opens up and we can then plan trips there that will be something a little different.

That is a good idea. My daughter should be hear by then and my in-laws will also be here and I really want to take my father in-law wheeling!

[Mikeyk280]

After all the FLTTORA wives/girlfriends that are pregnant right now... you all should know a lot about protection!!! LOL

[91toyota4x4]

We should just camp at big scrub or one of the campgrounds down there. There is a campground at lake dorr too (next door to that place we camped at in october).

[usmcracing]

Dude I was cool with eveything you said untill the last thing you said,

"I fell like I am dealing with my wife when its that time of the month! She always holds shit in until the tiniest thing blows right to hell!"

Are you saying I'm acting like a chick? If so then you can go screw yourself with that one. I've never said anything bad about any of you, all I said was I got pissed over something that someone said and how they acted afterwards.

If you weren't saying it as such then I'm sorry for the comment above and everything is cool.

[usmcracing]

We should just camp at big scrub or one of the campgrounds down there. There is a campground at lake dorr too (next door to that place we camped at in october).

The big scrub camp ground isn't that bad but will be over run with ATVs. I'll have Emily and I don't want to worry about her getting hit by some jackass and me killing the jackass.

There is a camp ground on 42 (I think thats the road) that the power line trails are. Its really nice but isn't cheap, I think it's like $25 or $30 a night.

[Clemsontoy]

Where ever we go camping, it sounds good to me, as long as its not Lake Oklawaha RV Resort!!!

[Iggy]

can u have fires at these camp sites?

[usmcracing]

Yes

[Iggy]

then we gonna have some russian style bbq
http://leete.fizteh.ru/photos/g_15iml/shashliK.jpg?w=0&h=0

any of u know where i can get some steal bent up that way??

[usmcracing]

link doesn't work, for me any ways

[91toyota4x4]

Check this out...

Old ONF Acess map:

http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/florida/local-resources/images/maps/oca/oca%20restrict%202005.pdf

New ONF Acess map:

http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/florida/local-resources/images/maps/oca/ocala%20access.pdf

From what I see the red area in the second map is the same as the hatched area in the first map. Licensed vehicles allowed on numbered roads and trails marked open. But it looks like some of the trails we ran in the south are still open (RR Grade) but others like the powerlines closed (unless they are numbered or marked open).

Oh and both big scrub and lake door campgrounds are $12 a night.

[91toyota4x4]

then we gonna have some russian style bbq
http://leete.fizteh.ru/photos/g_15iml/shashliK.jpg?w=0&h=0

any of u know where i can get some steal bent up that way??

So we are gonna make shishkeebobs (horrible spelling)??? You could make those sticks like some pliers...

[usmcracing]

man that sucks the power line trails were the coolest place down there.

[Iggy]

metal; has to be strong tho and bends have to be on the end
and ill ahve to know how many ppl are going

[bosco]

Oh and both big scrub and lake door campgrounds are $12 a night.


That is good with me. I dont know about the rest of you but I dont really want to spend $25-30 a night. :eek: It better be a rockin campground for that much.

[Iggy]

yeah u get free taquila and toyota sells 3rds for 1$ there

[usmcracing]

Thats all good you guys can camp all you want, Joni's brother lives a few miles from highway 42.

For clean hot showers, no kids/crazy aduts on ATVs, or a place for my daughter to play without me worrying she's going to get hurt because someone not pay attention, I'd pay $30 a night.

[Iggy]

lol we can set up a parimiter with land mines around our camp site and if anyone comes close they will get blown to hell lol but i see where ur coming from

[bosco]

:cool:

[Mikeyk280]

and when the first person wanders from camp to pee from drinking all that beer... LOL shall we place bets on who goes first??? LOL

[Iggy]

lol claymores also maybe some surplus bouncing bettys

[drew95xcab]

and when the first person wanders from camp to pee from drinking all that beer... LOL shall we place bets on who goes first??? LOL
screw that beer and explosives don't mix! :xbeer1: :xbeer3:

[91toyota4x4]

screw that beer and explosives don't mix! :xbeer1: :xbeer3:

Yeah bastard we know that from the last campout when you tried to kill me and Steven :wife: LOL

[pi]

Seems that everyone has put their two cents in, so here's mine.

Little known secret. The first time I wheeled with you guys at the pits, well it was my very first time wheeling. I was nervous to say the least. I'm just a fawkin noob.

I had a blast at the second campout. Minus the superficial body damage. Getting stuck sucked, but with people there to pull me out it made it not so bad. (my truck still smells funny)

Guess I will let you guys know why I didn't make it out Saturday. My viewpoint has somewhat changed since I have found out that I am going to be a dad. Jennifer stated when I told her that I was planning on going "Just don't break your truck, we can't afford to fix it now with the baby on the way." And that got me thinking... shit, what happens if something really was to happen? I mean sure, I have this brand new truck... huge tent... blah, blah, blah, but honestly I am pinching pennys to make ends meet.

I kick myself for not going. I really wish I could have been there... Mostly because I got the ball rolling and then dropped it. I feel like crap for doing that. And I feel likea a big vagina for letting the possibility for damage keep me from going. I know for a fact that if there was something that I didn't feel comfortable doing everyone would be cool with it.

Ok, end of rant.

Hopefully there are no hard feelings.
-Mike

[drew95xcab]

Yeah bastard we know that from the last campout when you tried to kill me and Steven :wife: LOL
Come on, that was sort of cool.

[bosco]

Seems that everyone has put their two cents in, so here's mine.

Little known secret. The first time I wheeled with you guys at the pits, well it was my very first time wheeling. I was nervous to say the least. I'm just a fawkin noob.

I had a blast at the second campout. Minus the superficial body damage. Getting stuck sucked, but with people there to pull me out it made it not so bad. (my truck still smells funny)

Guess I will let you guys know why I didn't make it out Saturday. My viewpoint has somewhat changed since I have found out that I am going to be a dad. Jennifer stated when I told her that I was planning on going "Just don't break your truck, we can't afford to fix it now with the baby on the way." And that got me thinking... shit, what happens if something really was to happen? I mean sure, I have this brand new truck... huge tent... blah, blah, blah, but honestly I am pinching pennys to make ends meet.

I kick myself for not going. I really wish I could have been there... Mostly because I got the ball rolling and then dropped it. I feel like crap for doing that. And I feel likea a big vagina for letting the possibility for damage keep me from going. I know for a fact that if there was something that I didn't feel comfortable doing everyone would be cool with it.

Ok, end of rant.

Hopefully there are no hard feelings.
-Mike

Its all good man. Like they say, haveing a baby changes EVERYTHING!!! But it doesnt have to effect you actually going wheeling (until you get where I am and your actually on baby watch :eek: ) You just have to make a few adjustments to how you wheel. Maybe you cant hammer it as hard as you would like to but you can still go have fun doing easier stuff and laughing at everyone else when they break! :D

[91toyota4x4]

Come on, that was sort of cool.

Yeah it was, especially the melted glass in stevens jacket :p

[usmcracing]

Yeah it was, especially the melted glass in stevens jacket :p


No it wasn't cool and the melted glass really sucked too.

[Iggy]

tell me more

[bosco]

No it wasn't cool and the melted glass really sucked too.


Its was kinda cool...especially since no one got hurt! :cool:

[usmcracing]

No it wasn't cool and I did get hurt. It was the first time I'd worn the jacket too.

[drew95xcab]

it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt...then it's hilarious!

[usmcracing]

yeah yeah, I'll never feel safe around a fire and you again. I'm scared for life...

[usmcracing]

I'll PM you later.

[usmcracing]

I deleted my post.