Fenders/Bedsides and More - YoT's Build-Up

[YoTRacer158]

I'm getting my glass bedsides and fenders this weekend (hopefully) and was wondering if there are any writeups anywhere? Seems like it will be pretty straight forward, but figured I should at least read up on it before I start cutting my shit up.

[Bear]

this is what I got:

http://www.desertrides.com/reference/fiberglass.php
http://www.trailslesstraveled.com/viewarticle.php?id=39

hope it helps a little

[YoTRacer158]

I completely forgot to check TLT...thanks

[Tweeter]

You want some help broseph? I've done my fenders and know how to do the bedsides. I'd recommend getting some help for trimming/fitting and have 1-2 people do the bedsides simultaneously. Trimming/sanding eats up more time than you think.

[Juicy Jaos]

You want some help broseph? I've done my fenders and know how to do the bedsides. I'd recommend getting some help for trimming/fitting and have 1-2 people do the bedsides simultaneously. Trimming/sanding eats up more time than you think.

x2... trimming/sanding takes forever, especially for people that are meticulous. wear long sleeves and gloves or you'll get itchy haha.

[TRDtacoma1985]

I still havent gotten my corner lights to match up perfectly.

[YoTRacer158]

You want some help broseph? I've done my fenders and know how to do the bedsides. I'd recommend getting some help for trimming/fitting and have 1-2 people do the bedsides simultaneously. Trimming/sanding eats up more time than you think.

Yeah man some help would be awesome. It all depends on what's going on these next few weeks and if I have to work weekends or not. I'll be getting the bedsides this weekend but i dont want to put them on before the fenders, and bajaconcepts doesnt have any in stock and says it will be probably 2 weeks before they get more. Hopefully i can find some other ones before then.

[Tweeter]

x2... trimming/sanding takes forever, especially for people that are meticulous. wear long sleeves and gloves or you'll get itchy haha.


Yea I forgot about the long sleeves and gloves, a face mask would also be useful as well! I did my passenger side in short sleeves and was MISERABLE the rest of the day...

[Tweeter]

Yeah man some help would be awesome. It all depends on what's going on these next few weeks and if I have to work weekends or not. I'll be getting the bedsides this weekend but i dont want to put them on before the fenders, and bajaconcepts doesnt have any in stock and says it will be probably 2 weeks before they get more. Hopefully i can find some other ones before then.

Oh ok I thought you meant this weekend. Well if you need some help or whatever let me know, if you haven't done it before it's nice to have someone there who has to get those "popular" trimming spots.

[YoTRacer158]

Oh ok I thought you meant this weekend. Well if you need some help or whatever let me know, if you haven't done it before it's nice to have someone there who has to get those "popular" trimming spots.

I have to work all weekend to get ready for a big inspection we have next week, but I should be around next weekend and hopefully I can find some fenders by then.

[Tweeter]

I have to work all weekend to get ready for a big inspection we have next week, but I should be around next weekend and hopefully I can find some fenders by then.

Right on. PM'd you my number if you want any help...

[YoTRacer158]

So Baja Concepts doesnt have any fenders in stock and wont have any for a couple weeks. Is there anywhere else down here in socal that carries glassworks stuff? Closest I've found is Kartek in Corona but that's a good hour+ drive at least. Is there any place down in the San Diego are that sells them?

[YoTRacer158]

Anyone have pics of Glassworks 6" fenders on their truck? The guy I'm getting the bedsides from has a set already painted so I'm going to pick those up too, just hoping it won't look too wide.

Edit: Nevermind...

[Tweeter]

So Baja Concepts doesnt have any fenders in stock and wont have any for a couple weeks. Is there anywhere else down here in socal that carries glassworks stuff? Closest I've found is Kartek in Corona but that's a good hour+ drive at least. Is there any place down in the San Diego are that sells them?

I could pick them up from Kartek if you tell me what you want and pay me back :D

[Juicy Jaos]

Yea I forgot about the long sleeves and gloves, a face mask would also be useful as well! I did my passenger side in short sleeves and was MISERABLE the rest of the day...

a face mask is a requirement, no doubt. i used a respirator since i had one handy. i heard a good way for removing fiberglas from your skin is to rub pantyhose on yourself. i haven't tried this but i think one of the ttora members posted this info.

[YoTRacer158]

I could pick them up from Kartek if you tell me what you want and pay me back :D

I found a set of 6" flares already painted...but I think 6" would look rediculous so I'll let you know.

[Tweeter]

I found a set of 6" flares already painted...but I think 6" would look rediculous so I'll let you know.

It wouldn't look rediculous I don't think. I run 10.5" tires on stock rims and I run the 4.5" glass and they stick out about an inch...soooo if you running 12.5" tires...I'd run 6" no doubt!

[YoTRacer158]

Hmm..we'll see. I checked out the pics of the 6" on glassworks website and the shot from the front looked rediculousy wide. It's definately going to look like shit if I put them on before the LT with the stock width. Just got a call from progressive and the new check is in the mail...so hopefully it'll be here by the weekend so I can get the LT.

[Tweeter]

Oh hell no don't put those on with stock width that'd look terrible! I would definitely wait on that!! You will thank yourself later on. I didn't even run my 4.5" with stock width I waited and was glad I did. And if for some reason you hate the 6" glass and want 4.5" I'll sell you mine for cheap I'm getting new fiberglass soon :D

[YoTRacer158]

Oh hell no don't put those on with stock width that'd look terrible! I would definitely wait on that!! You will thank yourself later on. I didn't even run my 4.5" with stock width I waited and was glad I did. And if for some reason you hate the 6" glass and want 4.5" I'll sell you mine for cheap I'm getting new fiberglass soon :D

I'm pretty sure I'll hate the 6"...what glass are you getting? One piece?

[Tweeter]

I'm pretty sure I'll hate the 6"...what glass are you getting? One piece?

Basically :D trading window nets for it haha. It's the desert kit actually, nice.

[YoTRacer158]

and what color is your truck? Green?

[Tweeter]

and what color is your truck? Green?

Black. Why does everyone think I own a green truck?! Here it is on Jeremy's truck..

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b166/12tweeter12/Taco/482249333_l.jpg

[YoTRacer158]

I dunno I just remember it being green in the pics. Are your fenders painted or bare?

[Tweeter]

I dunno I just remember it being green in the pics. Are your fenders painted or bare?

They are bare at the moment, are you looking for painted ones or bare ones?

[YoTRacer158]

Doesnt matter...if all I can find is bare then I dont have a problem painting them.

[Baja Belk]

Black. Why does everyone think I own a green truck?! Here it is on Jeremy's truck..

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b166/12tweeter12/Taco/482249333_l.jpg

Hell no Dave, that looks like ass....

[elenex50]

I think 6inch glass in way too wide for running stock rims and no LT kit. If you remember tweeter, i was running 6inch glass and it was way too wide and looked horrible. My friends said it looked like my truck had wings. i think you should get 3inch glass so it doesnt look retarded.

[YoTRacer158]

I think 6inch glass in way too wide for running stock rims and no LT kit. If you remember tweeter, i was running 6inch glass and it was way too wide and looked horrible. My friends said it looked like my truck had wings. i think you should get 3inch glass so it doesnt look retarded.

Yeah I looked at the pic on glassworks site and it looks way too wide...

http://www.glassworksunlimited.com/shop/product_image.php?imageid=142

[Tweeter]

I think 6inch glass in way too wide for running stock rims and no LT kit. If you remember tweeter, i was running 6inch glass and it was way too wide and looked horrible. My friends said it looked like my truck had wings. i think you should get 3inch glass so it doesnt look retarded.

Yea that's true those were definitely way too wide. RJ runs 3.5" with stock width and it looks fine, he also has 12.5" tires though.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

I'd run the 4.5" fenders. 3.5" is too narrow and the 6" fenders are unnecessary. By the way Tweeter, that desert kit looks HIDEOUS and the fit is TERRIBLE.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

What trimming are all you guys talking about? With all the talk about long sleeves, gloves and respirators, I'm guessing fiberglass work. You shouldn't need to do any trimming to fit 33x10.5" tires.

[Tweeter]

What trimming are all you guys talking about? With all the talk about long sleeves, gloves and respirators, I'm guessing fiberglass work. You shouldn't need to do any trimming to fit 33x10.5" tires.

Not to clear anything to get the fenders to fit sung on and make sure there's no gaps. My fenders needed major trimming on both sides to get the corner lenses to fit right.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Hmm, mine didn't need any trimming. Wonder if their molds have gotten worse or they just didn't cut his right.

[Tweeter]

Hmm, mine didn't need any trimming. Wonder if their molds have gotten worse or they just didn't cut his right.

Mine stuck out like 1/2 inch from the door to fender gap area and say 1/4 inch higher than the hood and the hood gap was huge and crooked...it was a damn mess lol. It was glassworks too not the cheap glass, I was a little disappointed, I think I just got unlucky, it's pretty much a shot in the dark whether you get a great fit or shitty one. So fitting the desert kit is terrible? How so?

[Tweeter]

By the way Tweeter, that desert kit looks HIDEOUS and the fit is TERRIBLE.


I'm trading parts for it so if I don't like it I can get rid of it and keep the glass I have now...

[JESSE_at_TLT]

I haven't installed a desert kit, just noticed that every one I've seen looks like shit. Kind of like the Glassworks bedsides. One of my wheelwells is almost 1.5" further forward than the other side and they're totally asymmetrical. Poor finish work. But my fender fit/look pretty good.

[Tweeter]

I haven't installed a desert kit, just noticed that every one I've seen looks like shit. Kind of like the Glassworks bedsides. One of my wheelwells is almost 1.5" further forward than the other side and they're totally asymmetrical. Poor finish work. But my fender fit/look pretty good.

Interesting. Well if I can't get it to fit up right I'll probably get rid of it, I'm kind of anal about things lining up right. The truck it's coming off of it was lined up perfectly actually...weird.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Yeah, me too. I'm just going to make my own glass and molds.

[Tweeter]

Yeah, me too. I'm just going to make my own glass and molds.

If it were only that easy I would too...

[JESSE_at_TLT]

What do you mean? It is that easy.

[Tweeter]

What do you mean? It is that easy.

Really?! Well for those of us who don't own shops :rolleyes: too bad you're in Oregon cause I want fenders that fit! :mad:

[JESSE_at_TLT]

No man, I think you've got the wrong idea about me. I'm working out of a small two car garage at my house, just like most of you guys. Trails Less Traveled is not a shop like you might be thinking, we just do some product development work, write a few tech articles, etc. I've started collecting some more specialized tools recently, but I still don't take in any paying projects or that sort of thing.

Anyway, have you ever worked with fiberglass? It really is VERY easy to work with. I got to see the guys at Denunzio Racing (www.dununzioracing.com) make molds for an entire Tacoma cab and there really wasn't that much to it.

If you're serious about making your own stuff, start with your stock fenders and bedsides. Cut them up to clear the tires when you cycle your suspension to full compression, figure out what the fiberglas needs to clear and how you want it to work, then start shaping with bondo or modeling clay. There are a lot of resources online and in print if you want to learn more about making molds, plugs, etc. There are even a couple of good threads on the Pirate forum where a lot of guys are making custom glass for their buggies.

I'm unhappy enough with what's on my truck that I'm going to make my own fenders and bedsides. I talked to Fiberwerx about it and they'll make the parts if I provide them with master plugs or molds. I just can't give you any realistic timeline (it's pretty low on my priority list).

I think the problem with the glass that's currently available is that they didn't spend too much time shaping the panels or making the good molds. The newer stuff from Glassworks looks and fits MUCH better than their older junk. The other problem is that the Glassworks fiberglas fenders and bedsides weren't made to fit any specific wheel/tire/suspension setup, so the fenders have more clearance than they need in some areas and not enough in others. The bedsides are a total disaster. I've only noticed some of these details over time and just haven't updated the original article with a long-term review yet.

[YoTRacer158]

Oh hell no don't put those on with stock width that'd look terrible! I would definitely wait on that!! You will thank yourself later on. I didn't even run my 4.5" with stock width I waited and was glad I did. And if for some reason you hate the 6" glass and want 4.5" I'll sell you mine for cheap I'm getting new fiberglass soon :D

So when can I get those fenders from you and how much do you want? I picked up the bedsides last night but the fenders were way too wide.

[Tanto]

FWIW my glassworks 4.5 fenders fit like crap. I've got a mounting hole exposed right below my driver headlight and the gap is pretty bad. That and the damn things stick out 1/2" in front of my grill....

[Tweeter]

So when can I get those fenders from you and how much do you want? I picked up the bedsides last night but the fenders were way too wide.

Wanna trade? Or I'll give you a little extra $$ and trade? Or I'll sell you mine for $100

[YoTRacer158]

Yeah i'll take yours, are they in decent condition? I didn't buy the 6" flares, if thats what you wanted to trade for...but I can give you the guys number.

[YoTRacer158]

Is Dave dead or something? That's the only reason I can think of as to why he hasnt been on here post whoring in the last day...

[Tweeter]

I'm alive. It was my 21st birthday yesterday so this wasn't really on my list of priorities. I was looking more to trade...

[YoTRacer158]

Well let me know where you live, if it's not too far from his house I can just get them from him and head to your place and we can do the swap.

[Tweeter]

Yup, PM'd you..

[YoTRacer158]

Well I just got done primering my bedsides...one step closer

[YoTRacer158]

Front fenders installed...hopefully I can get the back ones on soon and get everything painted :)

[YoTRacer158]

Got the bedsides on tonight. Thanks Jesse for a good writeup on your site, I went off that for the install. Took about 4-5hrs start to finish. I'm not completely done, but they're on the truck.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Right on. Did you cut the stock bedsides off or drill out the spot-welds? How well do the new bedsides fit?

[Tweeter]

sounds like he drilled them out. I was going to help him with these but I ran out of time this week, but I'll guess he dilled them...


snap some pics of the new fiberglass!!!!

[YoTRacer158]

Right on. Did you cut the stock bedsides off or drill out the spot-welds? How well do the new bedsides fit?

I drilled the spot welds. They fit awesome except for the driver side taillight area, it's getting caught up on something so the taillight isn't flush. Other than that, it's perfect, and I plan on going over that area again when I pull them off for paint. I have some pics on my camera, but I wont have any way to get them off until tomorrow.

[YoTRacer158]

Here are a few pipcs from the install...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0454.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0455.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0457.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0458.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0459.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0460.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0461.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0462.jpg

[Tweeter]

Sweet now you can help me lol

[YoTRacer158]

Yeah sure thing man, the install was way easier than I thought it would be. I got the front fenders painted tonight and I'm doing the bedsides tomorrow when I get off work.

Did you see the pics with the 37's on?

[YoTRacer158]

Couple more shots...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0463.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0464.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0470.jpg

Got the fenders painted last night but ran out of time for the bedsides today...hopefully I can get to them tomorrow.

[lasquintanas]

Looks good. Looks like everything lined up well from what i can see.

[BLOWNYOTA]

Nice work! When are you getting them painted?

[Tweeter]

Yea whoever gave you those fenders must be really nice :rolleyes: I think he'll do it today actually, he's gotten more done quicker than I thought.

[TRDtacoma1985]

I will be doin my bedsides in a month or two buy was wonderin if anybody has done an install with the spray in bedliner? Im not sure were the spot welds are but i think i can locate by feeling the inside. Anyone have any tips or advise for me?

[YoTRacer158]

Nice work! When are you getting them painted?

I just got some gloss black spray paint so I'll be doing them tonight. I did the fenders a couple days ago and it doesnt look too bad. I've got someone to paint them with some color matched paint, just have to wait until things are slow for them and they'll do it for free.

[YoTRacer158]

Looks good. Looks like everything lined up well from what i can see.

Yeah everything lined up very well, a lot better than I expected.

[02tacotim]

Where's the fuel filler????

Tim

[jerky]

looks real good. perfect width and everything. i might be doing my bedsides soon too. i just don't want to take the bed off. i don't have the room to do that where i live. should i drill out the spot welds or just take a cutter to the whole thing?

[Tweeter]

Where's the fuel filler????

Tim


It's nuclear powered :D

[YoTRacer158]

Where's the fuel filler????

Tim

I actually just loosened the bolt that hold it and twisted it as close to the insode of the fender as I could get it...the pics of me flexing out on the rock were from me making sure it would clear, which it did. I dont think it will clear when i have LT and 33's back there, but TC sells a kit to shorten the filler neck to get it out of the way.

[YoTRacer158]

looks real good. perfect width and everything. i might be doing my bedsides soon too. i just don't want to take the bed off. i don't have the room to do that where i live. should i drill out the spot welds or just take a cutter to the whole thing?

If you have 5 feet behind the bed, you have enough room. As you can see from the install pics, all I did was set the front of the bed on the rear bumper and set the back end on a trash can. You could just cut off the stock bedsides, but drilling out the spot welds and taking off the stock bedsides is a better way to do it.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

drilling out the spot welds and taking off the stock bedsides is a better way to do it.
Yup yup.

[YoTRacer158]

Got the front fenders painted a few nights ago, turned out pretty good (just used some gloss black). Got drunk last night and decided to paint the bedsides at about 11pm...so needless to say they didnt turn out quite as good as the fronts. i picked up some 33x12.5's today so I'll get those on tomorrow and get some pics up.

[YoTRacer158]

Just got back from putting my 33's on...I love having a room mate who's a toyota tech. I'll get some pics up in a bit.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

You needed a Toyota tech to mount your wheels/tires? Ha.

[Tweeter]

You needed a Toyota tech to mount your wheels/tires? Ha.

You don't?! :rolleyes: :lmao:

[YoTRacer158]

Someone stole my floor jack and my stock jack won't get the truck high enough...i also had my 60k service done for free and he takes care of everything I need done that I dont have the resources to do.

[YoTRacer158]

Here are some pics of the glass painted with 33x12.5's on it. Just painted it with some gloss black so they weren't white and primer anymore...should be getting them painted color matched in the next few weeks.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0519.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0520.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0521.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0522.jpg

[Trunks Only]

Looks good man.

[gosurfn]

Did you have any problems with the bedsides hanging up on the piece of metal hanging down by the taillight. Did you follow the TLT writeup or just go for it? mine have been a pita and I dont want to have to cut stuff off unnecesarily

[wslytoy]

That looks SWEET! I always love the glass look.

[YoTRacer158]

Did you have any problems with the bedsides hanging up on the piece of metal hanging down by the taillight. Did you follow the TLT writeup or just go for it? mine have been a pita and I dont want to have to cut stuff off unnecesarily

I kind of used the TLT writeup as a guide but I could barely read what it said and couldnt see the pictures (messed up printer) so I just got a basic idea from that and winged it. The passenger side went on smooth as butter but the driver side is getting hung up in the tail light area...when I pull them off to get the professionally painted I'm going to try to clean it up a little more...I hacked a lot of shit out of the tail light area to get it to mount flush.

[gosurfn]

I kind of used the TLT writeup as a guide but I could barely read what it said and couldnt see the pictures (messed up printer) so I just got a basic idea from that and winged it. The passenger side went on smooth as butter but the driver side is getting hung up in the tail light area...when I pull them off to get the professionally painted I'm going to try to clean it up a little more...I hacked a lot of shit out of the tail light area to get it to mount flush.


Thanks, i finally got them on. What are you going to do about the filler? I was suprised because mine came with a spot to mount the stock fuel door and filler.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Hmmm, are you using Glassworks bedsides? When we installed ours, the only option they offered was a universal fuel filler door that could be cut into the bedside. I decided against that because I knew we'd be installing a fuel cell eventually. I just cut the filler neck shorter and reattached it to the gas tank with a short section of universal fuel filler hose from a local auto parts store.

[YoTRacer158]

What are you going to do about the filler? I was suprised because mine came with a spot to mount the stock fuel door and filler.

I just loosened one of the bolts that holds the filler in place and twisted it as close to the inside of the fender as I could. I flexed out with the 32's and it cleared it fine, but I havent flexed it with the 33"s yet to see if it still clears.

[gosurfn]

Yeah, they're glassworks. I ordered them through camburg and they didn't really give me an option, but I'm stoked that I dont have to figure out what to do with the filler. Check it out:http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/gosurfn2000/100_2025.jpg

[gosurfn]

For the taillights, did you drill holes or did you fit the factory screw retainers? It seems like there must be some kind of screw retainer that is round, that'd be convenient?? Thanks

[YoTRacer158]

justy hold the taillights up to where they should mount on the new bedsidess and drill through where they should be

[Tweeter]

Any updates Derek? It's been awhile :rolleyes:

[YoTRacer158]

TC kit and shocks are on their way...hopefully they'll get here by this weekend and I can get everything on. Still trying to figure out what to do with the rear end until the cantilever is ready.

[Tweeter]

Is there an estimated time on when the canti will be finished? If it's relatively soon, I'd just wait for that and do it once. It'd save you some time and money.

[BLOWNYOTA]

who is building the cantilever?

[Tweeter]

who is building the cantilever?

I heard the guy is a tool :p

[Tweeter]

Oh and Drew I'll be wrapping those beeches up for you tonight and I can ship them tomorrow I'm on shipping overload right now and pretty much have no free time on Mondays. Are you sure I can ship them with just the shrink wrapping? I was going to wrap some padding around them as well.

[YoTRacer158]

who is building the cantilever?

No idea...I'll have to find someone who already has one on their truck and either get from from them, or at least get all the specs...

[YoTRacer158]

Oh and Drew I'll be wrapping those beeches up for you tonight and I can ship them tomorrow I'm on shipping overload right now and pretty much have no free time on Mondays. Are you sure I can ship them with just the shrink wrapping? I was going to wrap some padding around them as well.

What are you sending him? If it can wait until Friday I can pick them up and take them to him since I'm driving up there anyways...

[Tweeter]

What are you sending him? If it can wait until Friday I can pick them up and take them to him since I'm driving up there anyways...

A top secret project :D PM sent...

[YoTRacer158]

And why are you filling up my thread with useless ramble???

[Tweeter]

It's not useless, it's motivation for you to post up some progress and pictures :D

[YoTRacer158]

No progress since the bedsides and fenders...I'll take some pics of everything when it gets here if that will make you feel better.

[AllJumpStyle]

It might be time to update the avatar, eh?

[YoTRacer158]

It might be time to update the avatar, eh?

yeah, serisouly...if my (neighbors that I steal from's) fucking internet would ever work I have a lot of shit i need to update.

[BLOWNYOTA]

I heard the guy is a tool :p

WAJ!

[YoTRacer158]

It might be time to update the avatar, eh?

better?

[AllJumpStyle]

That will work for now... until you get LT. You better get a mega huck up there then. :D

[YoTRacer158]

That will work for now... until you get LT. You better get a mega huck up there then. :D

Don't know if I can beat surfpunk or whoever that is...but we'll see. You guys don't have any shocks laying around I can use with a set of deavers do you?

[AllJumpStyle]

only shocks i got right now are my fox 16x2.5's, but they're going on my truck soon...

[Tweeter]

Nope, no extras lying around at my place. All I have are my Bilsteins, but they're on my truck...

[YoTRacer158]

All i have is a set of 10" 7100's that are going to be way to short...but I'll have to run those unless I can find something else ASAP. If my room mate pays his damn rent i'll be able to pick up everything for the rear (minus shocks) sometime this week.

[YoTRacer158]

Got a call from my parents last night saying my longtravel arrived :) Can't wait to get up there and get that shit installed.

[YoTRacer158]

Here's the nice little package I had waiting for me when I got there...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/DSCF1354.jpg

[Tweeter]

Sweet :D looks blinging!

[YoTRacer158]

I think it'll look a little better once it's actually on...

[YoTRacer158]

Spent about 2hrs on it last night and managed to get the passenger side most of the way off...didn't have a socket big enough for the axle bolt and didn't have a 22mm closed end for the LCA's, so hopefully I can track those down today.

[Kirkenhiemer]

The axle bolt is 35mm incase you didn't allready know. Good luck on the install.

[YoTRacer158]

Yep they only had 34 and 36 at autozone but a 1-3/8" fit just about perfect. So how the hell do I get the steering rack off of the spindle? I took off the nut on top but I can't get that bolt that runs through out.

[AllJumpStyle]

Is that a balljoint? you need a balljoint separator, or hit the piece holding the balljoint with a hammer while attempting to pull the balljoint out. I have a balljoint separator if you need it.

[YoTRacer158]

We got one but it's still not comming...where is Drew? He was supposed to come over and help. If you're not doing anything and wouldnt mind comming over I could definately use the help.

[YoTRacer158]

ok got the lower one off...do I have to take my damn steering rack off to get the rear LCA bolt out? It would be nice if TC's instructions came with directions rather than just a diagram of where everything goes.

[Kirkenhiemer]

I believe you do have to take the rack off, do you have the upgrade bushings to put on your rack while you have it off. When you start putting every thing back together remember blue lock tight on all nuts and bolts.

[YoTRacer158]

Yeah I pulled the rack off, I have a new rack on the way so I'll put the upgraded bushings on that one before I put it on. The front LCA bolt is being stubborn as hell...and that's the last thing that needs to come off before I can start putting everything on.

[YoTRacer158]

New control arms and shocks are on...still fighting with that balljoint so I can swap tie-rods

[YoTRacer158]

Well now the driver side LCA bolts are being a pain in the ass...I've already broken 3 sockets and bent a wrench and it still wont budge. Hopefully tomorrow it'll decide to come off.

[ewong]

if the bolt are anything like the gen1 4runner ones...
sawzall...

[YoTRacer158]

Yeah that's the next option...only problem is going to be finding replacement parts since I doubt anything will be open today.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Yeah, I had to cut out a couple of the stock LCA bolts when we installed the long-travel kit on our Tacoma too. I've got a solution for you after you cut the stock ones off though. You can replace the stock metric hardware with 3/4 x 4.5" long grade 8 bolts and locknuts. Just pull the alignment cams off the stock bolts/spacers and tack-weld them onto the new 3/4" bolts so you can still adjust the alignment like it was stock. Hope that helps.

[Kirkenhiemer]

Try a 2' or 3' breaker bar with an impact socket. Sears should be open if you have one near by (for tools).

[YoTRacer158]

Try a 2' or 3' breaker bar with an impact socket. Sears should be open if you have one near by (for tools).

We had a 6ft breaker bar and snapped an impact socket. I finally got them off and everything is on. I had quite a few leftover bolts, so hopefully they werent important. I'll get some pics up as soon as I can. The driver side lower ball joint gave us a ton of trouble too but we finally got it. The alignment isn't great but it still tracks somewhat straight. I also didn't get the bump stops or limit straps on so I wont be able to rail it for a while until I get those on.

[YoTRacer158]

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0711.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0712.jpg

[da'Burd]

Yeah!!! :kewl:

[AllJumpStyle]

How long do you think those fenders are going to last? :D

[Tweeter]

Oooooo very nice!

Limit straps?

[YoTRacer158]

Yeah!!! :kewl:

Gimme a few days to clean off the hoes/UCA's and then you can get them...they got a little greasy for the torn boot that flung crap everywhere.

How long do you think those fenders are going to last?

I dunno...we'll find out. The guy i got the kit from was running 33x12.5's with the 4.5" fenders, but I'm guessing he had more BS than me.

Oooooo very nice!

Limit straps?

Havent put the bumps or limit straps in yet...hopefully soon so I can go rail it. BTW, get off the computer and come get your damn springs :) Or I can just hang onto them for you...:)

[yota4lyfe]

She's looking purdy. Good job!

[CentralCoastTaco99]

looks very good!

[Baja Belk]

NICE. I love the blacked out look....except Mexico doesn't treat black trucks well.... :(

[YoTRacer158]

My paint is thrashed as it is, not too worried about it. I'm trying to sell a car so hopefully when that is sold I'll be able to pick up everything for the rear end.

[lasquintanas]

Looks great. I'd be down to see that thing hit the whoops with the charger you got.

You gonna incorporate a skid eventually?

[built2prerun4]

truck looks good!

[YoTRacer158]

Looks great. I'd be down to see that thing hit the whoops with the charger you got.

You gonna incorporate a skid eventually?

Well you're not too far from Pismo and my rear end will hopefully be done soon...

And yeah I plan on running a skid all the way back to the tcase

[lasquintanas]

When's testing?

[Tweeter]

Havent put the bumps or limit straps in yet...hopefully soon so I can go rail it. BTW, get off the computer and come get your damn springs :) Or I can just hang onto them for you...:)

I was doing hw last night that's why I was on, send me your address again I think the inside of my truck swallowed it up lol

[Tweeter]

NICE. I love the blacked out look....except Mexico doesn't treat black trucks well.... :(

Yea mine's pretty pinstriped once you really look at it especially the passenger side it's gotten pretty bad hahaha.


And testing...I'd say when Mike (baja belk) gets his truck together :)

[Baja Belk]

And testing...I'd say when Mike (baja belk) gets his truck together :)

Aw I'm touched. :rolleyes:

I gotta make some phone calls but I'm hoping to get it running again the 16th, and I'm probably going wakeboarding in Big Bear either the 23rd or 30th, so either one of those weekends or the first weekend in October would probably work for me.

[Tweeter]

Aw I'm touched. :rolleyes:

I gotta make some phone calls but I'm hoping to get it running again the 16th, and I'm probably going wakeboarding in Big Bear either the 23rd or 30th, so either one of those weekends or the first weekend in October would probably work for me.

Yea yea whatever...

I was thinking the 23rd or 30th of Sept, wasn't sure which one. And I'd be down to go to Lucerne or PC or something. Just no soft sand is my only request, since me and Lasquintanas are 2WD.

[Trunks Only]

looks real good, have fun with the rear...seems like it was twice as big a pain in the ass as the front. :2cents:

[lasquintanas]

Yeah....nail down some dates MODERATORS. ;)

[drabnor]

Just no soft sand is my only request, since me and Lasquintanas are 2WD.

want some cheese with that wine? :lmao: :rofl: :flipoff4:

[Tweeter]

:rolleyes: It's like being a one legged man in an ass kicking contest mkay? And yes, I'll have Swiss.

[YoTRacer158]

Bumps and limit straps will hopefully be going on tomorrow...anyone wanna go out to the dunes this weekend?

[Kirkenhiemer]

Are you going up north? I was hopeing to go to the ocotillo wells this weekend for a morning trip.

[OOwballer]

Bumps and limit straps will hopefully be going on tomorrow...anyone wanna go out to the dunes this weekend?



Ill be in gordon's....big blue chevy, blue rail, blue yz250
(there seems to be a pattern)

[YoTRacer158]

Are you going up north? I was hopeing to go to the ocotillo wells this weekend for a morning trip.

Yeah I'm up in San Luis Obispo for the weekend...not sure how much longer I'm going to stay up here though.

[bigairrider01]

Yeah I'm up in San Luis Obispo for the weekend...not sure how much longer I'm going to stay up here though.
2 ttora guys and myself are headed out to pismo tomorrow morning, and we'll be there till sunday afternoon, you should head out, i wanna see your truck out there

[YoTRacer158]

I dont have the tabs to weld to the frame for the limit straps so I wont be able to go out...shitty

[Kirkenhiemer]

Yeah I'm up in San Luis Obispo for the weekend...not sure how much longer I'm going to stay up here though.
Just got back from ocotillo night run, I'm wishing I had a camera right now. Did a skid plate check on a little kicker at shell reef. Would have made a nice nose dive shot. You'll need to come out to ocotillo wells with us when your back in town. Let me know if you need those straps welded on, we could do them here.

[YoTRacer158]

Let me know if you need those straps welded on, we could do them here.

Sounds good man, I'll let you know when I get the tabs.

[YoTRacer158]

here are a couple more pics from the install.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0600.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0602.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0603.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0604.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0605.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/IMG_0607.jpg

[da'Burd]

You back down in SD?

[YoTRacer158]

You back down in SD?

Yes...but you already knew that, hope those Donahoes/UCA' are working good for ya.


Most of my rear end stuff is on the way...everything but shocks that is. Went with Total Chaos's rear end package, being that everything is together and I don't have to worry about piecing everything together. Rollcage/bedcage fabrication should commence shortly as well...

http://www.chaosfab.com/12.05/dvr_62_lg_06.jpg

[Kirkenhiemer]

Truck is looking good man, when are you going to hit up the desert?

[YoTRacer158]

as soon as i get the rear end done...just need to come up with $1200 for some bypasses. I'm hoping i can get a grand for the wife's old car, so that'll take care of that real quick as soon as I get it sold.

I'm going to call Chaos tomorrow and have them send me those limit strap tabs...so I'll give you a call when those come in if you're still willing to weld them up for me.

[Lucky13TRD]

Hell no Dave, that looks like ass....

it's called it works, show me your truck running in a race ;)

[Baja Belk]

it's called it works, show me your truck running in a race ;)

There's lots of things that work that aren't fugly - especially for daily drivers like Dave's and mine.

And no my truck isn't designed to race, I have other vehicles for that.

[Tweeter]

There's lots of things that work that aren't fugly - especially for daily drivers like Dave's and mine.

And no my truck isn't designed to race, I have other vehicles for that.

I only considered it because it was free haha, but I got some painted glass instead that will cover my tires just the same. And mine's kind-of-not-really a daily driver I have another car, I usually just CHOOSE to drive my truck because of the air conditioning and other amenities it provides me :D rather than my '68

Oh and I don't race my truck either, but I may consider it in a couple years...we'll see.

[Kirkenhiemer]

as soon as i get the rear end done...just need to come up with $1200 for some bypasses. I'm hoping i can get a grand for the wife's old car, so that'll take care of that real quick as soon as I get it sold.

I'm going to call Chaos tomorrow and have them send me those limit strap tabs...so I'll give you a call when those come in if you're still willing to weld them up for me.
Let me know when you get those tabs I'll help you out.

[BLOWNYOTA]

Buy my springs....you don't want new ones anyway, they aren't as cool as dirty ones.

[Tweeter]

Mine aren't too dirty...don't want to catch me ridin' dirty, know what I'm sayin?

[YoTRacer158]

Buy my springs....you don't want new ones anyway, they aren't as cool as dirty ones.

Sorry man, already put in my order...then found a 3link kit for $1k and got a little upset...

[YoTRacer158]

Got a call from ORW today saying all my stuff is in. As soon as I can come up with $1200 for shocks the rear end will be much happier...

[YoTRacer158]

Picked up the springs, shackles, etc today...hopefully I can pick up some shocks soon and have everything on before the 1000.

[YoTRacer158]

Ok so the kit finally got a thorough test out at Pismo yesterday, the results...

1. The fenders clear the 33x12.5's just fine. Myself and a few others were worried that the tires would contact the fenders on full compression, but there was only very minimal rubbing on the inner lip of the fenders on the rear edge of the flare...only enough to take a little paint off.

2. The antenna mount on the inside of the fender, however, did not like the 33x12.5's. Or should I say the tires didnt like the antenna? Either way, I found it dangling and dragging along the ground after a few minutes.

3. The tires made quite a bit of contact with the inner fenderwell (where it protrudes from the floorspace for the cab), so that will definately need some clearancing.

4. I need a cage. The crack in my cab spread about 4" farther.

5. I need some damn shocks so i can get my rear LT on...I was overdriving the hell out of my rear end and cant believe I didnt break anything.

6. Fat fucks on quads who dont know how to ride dont like it when you pass them on sand highway and will pull up next to you and cry when you stop, and dirtbikes get butthurt when you pass them too.

7. I need a skidplate...I burried the front end hard a few times (hauling ass through bowls with huge holes at the end) and cant believe I didnt bust my radiator (or anything else for that matter).

8. This kit fucking rocks...there were a couple times where my buddy and I thought "OH SHIT" because I went into a section a little hot...but every time it soaked everything up no problem. After going back and looking at some of the sections, we couldnt believe it handled them as well as it did.

Overall I couldnt be more happy with the kit...I just cant wait to get the rear LT on and a cage built so I can push it a little harder.

[BLOWNYOTA]

You should have just ran the quads over like I do.

[YoTRacer158]

You should have just ran the quads over like I do.

I'm pretty sure he was the one who tried to run you over...

[BLOWNYOTA]

lets not worry about the minor details

[YoTRacer158]

You're comming out to the dunes this weekend right? BTW I'm back in town as of about 1am this morning.

[YoTRacer158]

7. I need a skidplate...I burried the front end hard a few times (hauling ass through bowls with huge holes at the end) and cant believe I didnt bust my radiator (or anything else for that matter).

Weee....busted my radiator Friday night at Pismo, not even sure how though. Went for a little night cruise, came back and it was leaking like crazy. Must have clipped something in the sand because the AC condensor was smashed back into the radiator.

[what happened]

Weee....busted my radiator Friday night at Pismo, not even sure how though. Went for a little night cruise, came back and it was leaking like crazy. Must have clipped something in the sand because the AC condensor was smashed back into the radiator.

I think you should of "knocked on wood" before you finished #7 :doh:

[BLOWNYOTA]

#7

Lol!!!!!!!!!!

[AllJumpStyle]

A lift spindle for that kit would be nice, I guess you'd have to give up 4wd though...

[Tweeter]

A lift spindle for that kit would be nice, I guess you'd have to give up 4wd though...

You don't need 4WD...:xsmokin1:

[YoTRacer158]

You don't need 4WD...:xsmokin1:

Stop trying to make yourself feel better because you dont have it :D

[Tweeter]

Stop trying to make yourself feel better because you dont have it :D

I never said it made me feel better, I'm just trying to rationalize you don't NEED it. Like when you're driving down the street you don't NEED it...but I still want it :( :(

[YoTRacer158]

So how much is a 42x27" sheet of steel gonna run me for my skidplate?

[Bear]

So how much is a 42x27" sheet of steel gonna run me for my skidplate?
A pretty penny! :D

Look for a steel yard that deals with drop/cut metal. I have a shop locally that sells their left overs from their commecial projects. you can usually find pretty good prices on steel that way. I spent $150 on my tubing for my roll cage that way. If I remember right that also included the square tubing for my sliders.

[Tweeter]

IMS derek I'm tellin' you...check it out they always have good stuff and you will buy more than you think when you leave hahaha

[AllJumpStyle]

Steel? Who uses steel? It's all about aluminum, lol. And Derek I'm thinking you should get like 1/2" - 3/4" thick. :D

[YoTRacer158]

Steel? Who uses steel? It's all about aluminum, lol. And Derek I'm thinking you should get like 1/2" - 3/4" thick. :D

I figure I SHOULD use steel because I hit a lot of things...fire hydrants, cars, shit burried in the sand, etc...i'm guessing steel will take a little more abuse than aluminum, just a guess.

[what happened]

I figure I SHOULD use steel because I hit a lot of things...fire hydrants, cars, shit burried in the sand, etc...i'm guessing steel will take a little more abuse than aluminum, just a guess.
yea and also 50 more pounds too it will be heavy as shit...

[Tweeter]

plus the 4WD and V6...it will never work!!!! :)

[rojodiablo]

You don't need 4WD...:xsmokin1:
I remember at J-tree.... All you need is a ....GAS PEDAL. ;)

[rojodiablo]

So how much is a 42x27" sheet of steel gonna run me for my skidplate?
How thick, what grade steel??? At the more expensive of shops, like IMS, that in 1/8" will be around $25-35 for steel, 1018 cold-rolled. For 4130, a 24X48 will run about $90. Make it steel, and gusset it. A thin, strong steel sheet can be welded to its' gusset frame, making it much stronger than any piece of aluminum will ever be. And, the weight will be only a few pounds more in overall weight.

[Tweeter]

HAHA and all you needed was a brake pedal or a steering wheel to miss the huge hole in the ground HAHA. Oh wait...that wasn't you...that was Capt. Crunch.

[YoTRacer158]

HAHA and all you needed was a brake pedal or a steering wheel to miss the huge hole in the ground HAHA. Oh wait...that wasn't you...that was Capt. Crunch.

Huh?

[Tweeter]

Huh?

I wasn't talking to you :p

[rojodiablo]

I wasn't talking to you :p
Well, Derrick could have used a brake pedal the other night I guess.... :D

[AllJumpStyle]

I hope you're joking...

It is important to note that when racing, especially at night, when an impact occurs, the necessity to remove the entire panel quickly is necessary to stay competitive.
WTF??

[BLOWNYOTA]

obviously he knows what it takes to be competitive, especially at night.

WAJ!!!

[AllJumpStyle]

First off, you make yourself sound like an idiot; learn some grammar. And second off, wtf kind of races are you running? If you're simply racing against yourself I don't know why you need an "Organized Racing Team." It all sounds like bullshit to me.

When we raced the truck with the metal panels and practiced drifting, we would inevitably end up hitting trees, shrubbery, rocks, etc. Impacting at speeds as low as 10 mph up to "glancing blows" at 70-80mph would result in the fenders being dented resulting in the metal hitting the tires which led to severe damage or blowouts.
In my opinion this is just bad driving, and a little FYI, drifting is NOT the fastest way around a corner. My friends enjoy driving their trucks too, we call it "driving our trucks," not racing.

Your whole team sounds like a joke, and for your sake I hope it is.

[BRUUUP]

they arnt jokeing they DGAF!!!1!!!

So how do you get by tech without a cage?

[Baja Belk]

LOL!!! zerotogoneracing is back!!! :lmao: :rolleyes: WAJ

[BRUUUP]

They already got blasted by the DR thread now this. I have no idea where they got those prices for glass. I spent like 325 for my old glass and about 2 hours of prep including primer in the front yard.

[Tweeter]

LOL!!! zerotogoneracing is back!!! :lmao: :rolleyes: WAJ

*vroooooooooom vroooooooooom errrrrrrrrkkkkkkk ~CRASH~*

"...take off the metal we need to stay competitive..." :rofl: WAJ is right!


And there is no way they can DGAF any harder than I do. Since they race their Tacoma in CORR, I race mine in the TT class in Baja. Pfffffttt who cares about passing tech?! You can't DGAF any harder than me :D


WAJ

[BRUUUP]

Yeah I can but DILLIGAFCISDGAF!!!!!!!11!!1!!

I cant take you guys serious, I don’t race but have been around the sceen long enough to know dumb when I see it.

Yeah you don’t need big travel big motor and big money look at Matt Helton on the DR forum everyone wants him to pee in their butts.

I miss DR my login doesn’t work.

[Tweeter]

I miss DR my login doesn’t work.

make a new one, you can use mine if you need to PM the admins or whatever, I DGAF :)

[Tweeter]

PM'd you my info, I'm logged out of DR now so have at it ;)

And if you do anything malicious, I'll ban you muahahaha j/k :D but seriously...

[YoTRacer158]

Whoa i have someone for zerotogone posting in my thread!!! They are my idols!!! How do I get on the team?

[Tweeter]

Whoa i have someone for zerotogone posting in my thread!!! They are my idols!!! How do I get on the team?

If you want any BS cut out of your thread Derek let me know.

[YoTRacer158]

Love how he posts that link like 5 months after the shit was installed...

[BRUUUP]

HAHA sorry about that yoT but damn.......

Truck looks good.

[AllJumpStyle]

Drifting through turns on asphalt course leads to lower times because you follow a longer line and lose traction.
Why do you think this is not true for offroad as well? There is a time and place for it, I agree; however, I believe it should be used more as a necessity than an intended technique. i.e. coming into a corner way too hot.

That being said, it seems you are basically racing rally courses in a truck if you are comparing your racing to CORR or WRC.
I don’t care what level you at, backyard racer or professional, YOU WILL HIT things. Driving on the edge especially off-road is a dynamic atmosphere and a dangerous place. Who’s your favorite pro racer? I guaranteed they hit obstacles at their level of competition. From off road legends like Robby Gordon to the amazing and now retired F-1 driver Michael Schumacher, they have all crashed. So what makes you think that in practicing and training race teams won't hit things?
You are an amateur team, therefore hitting shit while practicing how to drift is just dumb.
We are not claiming to be a professional team, rather a grassroots team. Sorry if we do not meet your specification for a race team but let it be known that everyone has to start somewhere. Your comments express views that you have knowledge of what a race team is and is not. What experiences do you have or are you a typical keyboard racer that spends more time on the computer than on the trails?
I thought race teams actually compete. You have given no indication of what sanctioning body you are racing with. If it isn't organized racing, then in my opinion, you are just driving around wrecking your truck.

I do have experience. For the past couple years I have been helping out Total Chaos/Locos Mocos at MDR and BITD races.
Furthermore the races we ran were at local tracks, the same place where the majority of racing is done. As cages are related to the class and et we ran, it was not necessary, it was an option. Once again we wanted to see the natural tendencies of the truck to establish the direction of fabrication at a later point.
Racing without a cage is just stupid.
Nonetheless, the race team you so claim to be pathetic, because you obviously run such a fine one yourself with the vast resources you harbor also has a Toyota Mr-2 that was once a daily driver at 532 RWH...and that was before we decided to abandon that engine combination and rebuild it and turn the car into a race car. Now we are focused on running in the NDRA.

If racing was all about speed then the only one having fun would be John Force. Try having an open mind and spending more time on the trails instead of on the computer.
I have no clue what you are trying to say here, but congratulations, you have a fast MR2.
The time we have taken to express our views was to help educate you that racing is far more than what you see on TV. You don’t need 17” of travel on the front, 20” of travel on the rear, riding on 35” tires with a 351 Windsor underneath the hood to race. (Although it would be nice!)

Realize that motorsports isn’t entirely defined by the professionals rather the people who aspire to be reach their level. It’s the grassroots racers that compose nearly the entire motorsports community, not the pro’s. It is the grassroots teams that sustain the high performance aftermarket community in sales not the pro’s. Try supporting grassroots teams not trying to hinder them.
You're preaching to the choir here buddy. WTF do you think MDR is?

[Baja Belk]

In fact, at times it’s necessary to drift through the turn, for without the momentum you will slow down extensively or even get stuck especially in silt and mud.

You don't drift through silt. Don't make assumptions of terrain you've never seen.

If you take a look at your website you'll understand the criticism you're getting:

Race Series:

Currently on the Local Level
- No sanctioning body? No pictures? No credentials? You can't claim to race if you don't provide a legit venue.

"Hesitant over the ability of the stock setup, Bryan conceded to Patrick's request and quickly found the awesome capabilities of a Toyota truck and his second love of racing: Off-Road. Thereafter on a normal basis the truck was raced through the desert and mountains in extreme temperatures at times reaching speeds of 100 mph!"

- Either your lying (most likely) or your stupid. Exaggerration never begets respect.

SUSPENSION
1" Puck Front Suspension
1.5" Fabtech Add-A-Leaf
Rancho 5000 Shocks
Currently Waiting for 2nd Gen Chaos System

- ??? Please....

Safety
Fiamm Big Boss Air Horns

- Yup, that'll protect you in a rollover....

Stereo
2x - JBL GTO Tweeters
Kenwood Excelon KFC-168 6.5
Mr2 Creations 6x9 Enclosures
Kenwood KDC-MPV 7019 Head Unit
x2 - XTC 6.5 Baffles
x2- XTC 6x9 Baffles

- So obviously sounding cool is more important to you than safety or performance, so how do you expect us to take you seriously???

http://www.zerotogoneracing.com/images/shackles.JPG
high density iron shackles


- Hm....so wieght apparently isn't an issue....

http://www.zerotogoneracing.com/images/pits5.JPG
Pits Race - Chandler Arizona



http://www.zerotogoneracing.com/images/power1.JPG
Power Lines Race - Michigan: Two Tracking With Mr. Tyrell


- Ahh.. it all makes sense now. I'm sorry, we all thought of actual sanctioned competition when you mentioned racing. I didn't realize "race" meant dicking around in the dirt with your bodies. I wish I had time during a race to get out and take pictures....


http://www.zerotogoneracing.com/images/flag.JPG

- And finally, this is your idea of a race truck and you expect us to take you seriously??? :rolleyes:

C'mon dude, there's a BIG difference between a grassroots race team with an "in-progress" truck, and a bunch of buddies who think that getting stuck in big mud holes and having a website makes them a racing team. If you really are serious about racing, don't claim "race team" status until you actually have an idea of what you're doing or at the very least have some progress to show for it. Until then, prepare to get ripped on - and for good reason.

[BLOWNYOTA]

us131-
The reason that you are getting "malicious" responses here is beacuse your writing essays about your "race team" in our forum, and because you are dumb.

"Those of you that think you Know so much really annoy those of us that do!!"

BTW... We don't want to ask you questions, we just want you to STFU and wheel (not race)!

[BRUUUP]

No I want him to ask questions I like the answears.

I think im going to like it on TTORA while DR is down.

[BLOWNYOTA]

Can't spell drama without DR...lol

[YoTRacer158]

Keep this fucking shit out of my build thread...go defend your gay ass "team" in another thread.

[Baja Belk]

Eh, well, whatever floats yer boat I guess. Changing the website is a good idea though. I would recommend posting actual "race" pictures (ie.: competition, green flag, checkered flag, cones, anything)

[Tweeter]

Cleaned out the crap, let's keep this thread on topic how's that sound?

[YoTRacer158]

Next paycheck will most likely pay for shocks, bender, and tube...so keep an eye out for my rear LT install and cab/bed cage fab in the comming weeks.

[YoTRacer158]

Ran across about a 4x10' (yes, foot) sheet of 1/2" aluminum today...i think i found my skidplate :D

[AllJumpStyle]

Yes!!! lol

[YoTRacer158]

Found another sheet of 3/8" Diamond Plate Aluminum...going to use that for the skid instead. I started ripping out the interior yesterday to get ready for the cage, I'll do my best to get pics up of the progress.

[neliconcept]

likin the build up man, how far do you plan on going with this, full cab cage and bed cage?

edit: if i was smart enough to read up a post i wouldnt have said that

regardless lovin the build up

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Diamond plate? Ughhh. It's not a Jeep.

[YoTRacer158]

likin the build up man, how far do you plan on going with this, full cab cage and bed cage?

edit: if i was smart enough to read up a post i wouldnt have said that

regardless lovin the build up

Haha yeah the whole thing is getting caged.

Diamond plate? Ughhh. It's not a Jeep.

Yeah I know, but it's free. It's getting spraypainted black anyways.

On another note...I'm picking up a set of 2.5 18" travel kings tomorrow. They're just smoothbodies w/ external resevoir...but at least I can get the rear longtravel on and upgrade to bypasses later.

[YoTRacer158]

http://a284.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/15/l_be9720dcaa9a584de6f65d1692c28063.jpg

Look how pretty they are :D Everything should be going on next weekend with the help of Kirkenhiemer.

[marnes2986]

:D nice

[Tweeter]

Bet you $10 I'll get my 18's on before you :p

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b166/12tweeter12/Taco/Truck011.jpg

[YoTRacer158]

Yeah right...you've probably got another paper or something to write :D

[Kirkenhiemer]

Bet you $10 I'll get my 18's on before you :p

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b166/12tweeter12/Taco/Truck011.jpg
Yeah Derik has to do the whole install, Don't you allready have your deavers installed?

[YoTRacer158]

Just an update...my truck is currently sitting on jacks with a fully boxed frame and no stock rear suspension components. We're about to start tacking in the new spring and shackle hangers and should have everything good by tomorrow. I'll get pics up when everything is done.

Dave you owe me $10 :D

[Tweeter]

Just an update...my truck is currently sitting on jacks with a fully boxed frame and no stock rear suspension components. We're about to start tacking in the new spring and shackle hangers and should have everything good by tomorrow. I'll get pics up when everything is done.

Dave you owe me $10 :D

Fat lady hasn't sung yet :D

How about we make it a 12 pack? ;)

[rojodiablo]

Fat lady hasn't sung yet :D

How about we make it a 12 pack? ;)

You know I am not biased, buuuttt..... I am welding on it again today. Make half the 12 Becks NA. I quit drinking beer.:lmao:

[AllJumpStyle]

I'm waiting for pictures guys...

[YoTRacer158]

Leafsprings, shackles, and al that are on and the truck is back on the ground...about to cut some shock mounts and then start on the shock hoops.

I'll have Paul burn me all of the pictures to a disk or something and try to get them up tonight.

[YoTRacer158]

Well we got the shock hoops bent and cut but ran out of time. I'm heading back up tomorrow and we should definately be able to get the shock hoops and shocks on...probably more. I'm thinking we'll have it back up and running Tuesday or Wednesday night at the latest as long as we don't run into any problems.

Pics thus far...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0355.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0357.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0359.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0361.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0362.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0368.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0369.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0372.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/YoTRacer158/PICT0374.jpg

[YoTRacer158]

OK...we ended up mounting the shackle pivots 14.5" in from the back of the frame and went 52.5" in a direct line to the front hangers. It sits almost perfectly level with the bed and gas tank (no spares, no bumper and no shocks mounted.) After the tubing is on, everything is re-installed, and the springs settle it'll most likely be sitting a little lower in the rear. The shackles looked like they would hit the frame before the springs hit the bumps, bump with Paul and myself jumping on the back we couldnt quite get it to compress far enough to get either to hit. The springs seem extremely soft due to the angle of the shackles...so if it ends up being too soft and it sags too much once the springs settle we'll be moving the shackle pivots back a few inches. I'll be heading back up when I get off work so expect some more pictures by the end of the night.

[AllJumpStyle]

You guys didn't cycle it with the springs taken down to one leaf?

[eric90503]

Hey Derick,
Nice Bro! Looking good. All that grinding on the reinforcements plates paid
off. Sorry I had to jam so quick. I had a 3:30 appointment with the doc.
Let me know if you need a hand, I'm off at 6pm usually.
eric

[Kirkenhiemer]

Truck is looking good. Are you going to build a bed cage now?

[rojodiablo]

You guys didn't cycle it with the springs taken down to one leaf?

They are already soft enough we don't need to bother....:rolleyes: Got some extra upper pivots and installed them. We had to change the angle, it was too soft in the first 3 inches of travel. We can check it tomorrow. I called a few guys who know this particular setup, and they confirmed my suspicions. Helton runs different springs, and this pack is NOT the same as his setup. It's going to work much better with a load in the back.

[Half Baked Taco]

Was there last night and Paul showed me the shackle angles and how soft the springs were. It looks like you guys have it under control and the truck is looking good Derek.

[BLOWNYOTA]

I want to see a mega-huck when this is all done Derek. We will have to go get your new stuff all sandy when you come home for your b-day. Post some more pics when you can!

[YoTRacer158]

Quick update before I go to bed...last night we welded in some new inserts for the shackle mounts behind the orginal ones (3" behind the original ones) to get a little more rake out of the shackles to stiffen the springs up and get a little more height. If I were to re-do all of this, I would honestly weld in 3-4 inserts back to back to back for a lot of adjustabilty in height/stiffness depending on how much of a load was being carried.

Tonight we welded the crossmember behind the gas tank back in and strengthened the fuck out of it, and welded in some plate on top of the frame where the front of the shock hoops will be comming down. We also cleaned up the shock hoops a bit and got them ready to go in tomorrow. With no bed or gas tank it was measuring 12.5" from axle to bump...so with everything back on I should be sitting around 10" uptravel/8" downtravel or maybe even 9"/9" once the springs settle. We don't have a jack tall enough to check full droop so it's hard to say...with a light slant in the shocks I may be pulling 19-20" travel but we'll see. With the truck on the jacks we had 14.5" from axle to bump and the springs/shackles still had a LOT more downtravel left in them.

Tomorrow we're going to shoot for getting the bed cut and welding the shock hoops in at the least. We still have a couple pieces to make for the shock hoops but nothing major...just a few cuts and a few bends. I'm guessing everything will be done Thursday night...I just need to get the shocks welded and pick up some limit straps.

I'll try to get some more pics tomorrow...it's definately nice seeing it start to go back together.

[YoTRacer158]

Was there last night and Paul showed me the shackle angles and how soft the springs were. It looks like you guys have it under control and the truck is looking good Derek.

Yeah sorry I didn't make it there in time to see you. You should cruise back by tomorrow or Thursday. Oh and Drew, I should be up there around June 17-27th so we'll definately hit the beach.

[rojodiablo]

Update: Shock mounts on the top are done. Look good, and clean. Got the bed cut, and put the gas tank back in. Amazingly, there is still a lot of room in the bed. Got the bed hoops in, welded about 60% of the way. Got the gas tank back in, we are getting close. Gonna have to modify the rear bumper, and some other tidbits like E-brake work, brake proportioning valve, etc. But it will be a driver tomorrow, which is what counts.

[resolute]

I'm curious if you guys got the 18"s to work below the bed line...?

[YoTRacer158]

The upper shock mounts are maybe an inch or two above the top of the bed

[rojodiablo]

I'm curious if you guys got the 18"s to work below the bed line...?

We could have, but the way TLT mounted their shocks to double as kickstands didn't sit too well with us. They are about 1" or so like Derek said above the bedline. 16" would have been no problem below the bed. But who the hell needs 16" when you've got 18!!!!