Someone's "right" to freedom of speech

[fourbychef]

Well put for the most part, I'd agree.
(don't mean to offend anyone!!) lol


I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the "National Anthem" in Spanish - enough is enough. No where did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation - not even close. Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY - IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP ---- please pass this along...

I am not against immigration. - Just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past --- and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone-----YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM !!!!
Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice??????
Think about it!
All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS?

I celebrate Christmas...........but because it isn't celebrated by everyone .............. We can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings.
It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday?
We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that. This says it all! This is an editorial written by an American citizen, published in a Tampa newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he?

IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT. I am tired of this nation
Worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their
Culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However... The dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began
Complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.
I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who
Is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans.....we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak"ENGLISH", not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, "LEARN THE LANGUAGE"
"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian,
Right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women.......on Christian principles............. Founded this nation... And this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home.........because God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so! But once you are done complaining....... Whining...... And griping.... About our flag...... Our pledge...... Our national motto.......or our way of life...I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other Great American Freedom......
THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.

It is Time for America to Speak up. If you agree -- pass this along; if you don't agree -- delete it!

[neversummer1]

Atta boy K-Ton. Say it loud, say it proud!!

B

[Heatstroke]

Well put for the most part, I'd agree.
(don't mean to offend anyone!!) lol


Hey K-Ton, pm'd ya. Glad you could stop bye.

[Stypica]

While I agree with the basic premise of this - the author did an awful job with their fact checking. The notion of love/hate immigrants has been around from the beginning - whether it was the irish, the chinese, the mexicans or any other,

This country was not founded on christian principles - it was founded on basic rules that all societies need to continue - don't kill each other, don't steal from each other, don't suck. The Founding fathers were for the most part not Christian - though the tended to be men of some faith or other. "In God We Trust?" that was added to currency after the civil war... not out of the founding Father's mouths. To quote the treaty of Tripoli "The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
From an economic standpoint - America loves cheap labor, plain and simple - always has. We have been the first modern country to have the sort of immigration and attempted assimilation we have. Ireland is just starting to have it.

There is nothing wrong with people embracing their cultures - but I do feel there should be an attempt to deal with things in English. The only people that assimilated to America easily were rich white europeans who had the money to get some land in middle america and prosperred. Everyone else - at some point or other has been the target of bigotry and hatred for not fitting in as well as those few did.

Still, I do love America, and I love that I'm in it:) Fuck the PC bullshit - but still recognize that these are human beings we're talking about, not "lesser" beings, just because they were born somewhere else. That's the shit I hate:/

[Heatstroke]

Still, I do love America, and I love that I'm in it:) Fuck the PC bullshit - but still recognize that these are human beings we're talking about, not "lesser" beings, just because they were born somewhere else. That's the shit I hate:/

Yay, Tom's alive. (haven't heard nor seen anything in a while)

(boooo lurking)
HOOORAAAY posting. lol

[Stypica]

gonna be off to london for a few weeks on tuesday though (yay vacation!)

[Heatstroke]

gonna be off to london for a few weeks on tuesday though (yay vacation!)


NICE!!! See you when you get back.

[MountainCoot]

There's so much bullshit in this premise that it's not worth the time reading.

[goldmember04]

I agree with you to some extent. America as a whole still fails to respect each others cultures. Whatever happened to respecting minorities as Americans. People should be aloud to keep their own cultural indentity and/or language. Plus learn the language of the country they are in. But are americans really victims here? Immigrants, even after becoming naturalized americans are still told to "go back to their country." It just so happens, a week ago when I was in San Diego and when I got down to a circle K around La Jolla that while me and my brothers-in-law were walking to the store, an "american" lady reached over and locked here car doors (she was driving a mercedes that probably had power locks and there was no need to reach over and lock the doors). Was she afraid that we were going to steal here american identity!? Like I said, as a permanent visitor to the united states, you have your duties, but believe me, naturalized citizens and people of color will be doubted their "americanism" as long as they don't look like "americans."

As you would guess, I am a mexican-american, and I've seen the other side. Plus I too was upset as an american when our buildings were taken down, but have faith that your american identy is not in jeapordy. Everything will be ok. There is nothing wrong with people showing patriotism in another language. Let's think about this, can't this mean that people will have even more respect if they can sing the national anthem in whichever languange they want? Why is this considered a form of disrepect?(Understand that I don't know where this statement comes from...did you get is from an article?) "Every man created equal?..." Not yet...

I apologize if I am reading your statements and misunderstanding them, but sometimes one must look at both sides of the coin before asserting such a strong statement. And I would think that we don't have the time to discuss these issues intelligently and thouroughly in a 4WD thread.

I too, don't want to offend, but I hope to enlighten you from my side, just like I've taken your comment and learned from it. I understand some of your feeling, but I don't agree with all of them.

[goldmember04]

There's so much bullshit in this premise that it's not worth the time reading.

I agree! But I think that I just took the time (LOL)