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1BLKJP
08-22-2006, 05:24 PM
Hello,

I know some of you were not very in tune with my previous post on this board. I do apologize if I came across as over bearing and authoritative. There really is no good way to tell an adult that they are doing something wrong.

However now I urge you to help us in the fight to keep Martinez Canyon open. Francis Mendoza (Francisco_Mendoza@blm.gov) is setting this trail up for emergency closure based on the vandalism to the cabin itself and by way of stating they have seen trampled vegation in the area enough to warrant an emergency closure. We need your help in making sure that this does not happen. Jaw Breaker was closed on this same premise and has never been re-opened and likely never will. Below is a sample letter to the Tucson BLM Field Office regarding their intended closure of Martinez Canyon. It's IMPORTANT we deliver HUNDREDS of letters on their desks in the next couple of days. Francisco's agenda has been to close this canyon for several years so this has finally given him the ability to do so.

An EMERGENCY CLOSURE does not require public scoping.

PLEASE use this letter or write your own and delete parts that don't apply to you, but if we want to keep Martinez Canyon open to our use we need to take the bull by the horns and send your letter NOW. Don't let "the other guy do it". YOUR letter will count! BE PRECISE BUT PLEASE BE POLITE.

Please do not just "forward"............ Send as an independent letter. Cut and paste into another email but don't show "where you received the sample" or "who forwarded the information to you" etc.

We CAN make a difference. Please forward this to everyone you know??.

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Francisco_Mendoza@blm.gov Tucson Planner
Patrick_Madigan@blm.gov Tucson Field Manager
Bill_Gibson@blm.gov State OHV Coordinator
Julie_Decker@blm.gov State Resources Coordinator
Mike_Taylor@blm.gov State Resources Deputy Director
Bill_Civish@blm.gov Tucson District Manager
Anna_Atkinson@blm.gov D.C. OHV Coordinator



August _____, 2006



Bureau of Land Management
Tucson Field Office
12661 E. Broadway
Tucson, AZ 85748-7208

ATTENTION: Mr. Patrick Madigan, Field Manager

Dear Mr. Madigan,

I am a member of __________________________ (AZOHVC; club; group etc) representing _______________ (number of members.. AZOHVC is now over 11,000.)

I have been recreating, hunting, camping and enjoying our backcountry for ______ years and the Martinez Canyon area is important to me and my family in both recreation opportunities and history of our state.

I am writing this in response to a recent notice involving Martinez Canyon. I was dismayed to hear of the damage done to the Cabins but was equally dismayed to hear BLM is strongly considering an ?emergency closure? as a result.

?Emergency Closures? tend to become permanent. I am requesting some mitigation steps be considered before closure.

The BLM Volunteer ?Red Shirts? have offered numerous solutions in the past and I would hope these steps be considered again. 5-6 Years ago BLM was offered the services, at no cost to BLM, of a structural engineer to evaluate the stabilization of the cabin and the OHV community offered to supply the workers and materials to do what was needed. It was also felt that interpretative signs telling the history of the canyon would bring ?responsibility and ownership? from the users. None of this was ever accepted by BLM. We are now in a situation that OHV are paying the penalty for damage by other than OHV. Because of the intimation of the OHV being to blame for the destruction certainly doesn?t lend itself to partnerships between BLM and the OHV community. This area has been a local party spot (RAVE parties and drugs) for several years. The defacing of the historical cabin was not done by OHV. The bold writing on every wall in the cabin was done by an environmental ?BLM Volunteer?. Your office staff know of this incident???? has he been banned?

The ?BLM Red Shirt Volunteers? are those that do clean-ups; install kiosks and signs; obtain and offer these materials to BLM at no cost; we offer to Adopt trails and help with monitoring and maintenance; many of our OHV folks are now Site Stewards??? we do this and still are the only recreationists denied access to a beautiful canyon because of our choice of transportation or recreation?

I believe gating and permits for access to this canyon was recommended some time ago. I?m assuming if this canyon is closed to motorized use it will be gated at the entrance. Why could this not be a gate allowing for permitted access only. This would give BLM knowledge of who and when there is access to the canyon; it would turn the party crowd away and allow time to join together and evaluate the cabins and hopefully do stabilization work and put together a ?history story? of the area. Closing access to OHV is certainly not a way to build collaborative partnerships nor trust between BLM and the OHV Community.

It is respectfully requested BLM meet with the OHV Community leaders to discuss reaching an acceptable approach to this problem before decision of closure is made.

Thank you for your consideration.

*Name
*Address
Phone
Email

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Here is a current photo of what the cabin looks like also.

FAUX X 4
08-22-2006, 06:18 PM
Letters sent :kewl:

.............A few members are currently disscusing organizing a trip to un-stack and clean up Martinez. A collaboration in this effort is always welcome! I will post here after the specifics are discussed and set a time if anyone is interested?

Captkirkyota
08-22-2006, 06:54 PM
Here is a copy of my edited version. This is a copy of the last person on the list, but I sent the same to all with different names and such.
Thanks for the heads up.

August 22, 2006



Bureau of Land Management
Tucson Field Office
12661 E. Broadway
Tucson, AZ 85748-7208

ATTENTION: Mrs./Miss Atkinson; D.C. OHV Coordinator

Dear Mrs./Miss Atkinson ,

I am a member of Toyota Territory Offroad Association, and an avid Arizona outdoors-man and lover of the rich historical areas that one can go to.
I have been recreating, camping and enjoying our backcountry for the 6 years that I have now enjoyed living here in Arizona and the Martinez Canyon area is important to me and my family, specifically, my twin boys who I have been diligently teaching proper trail and land etiquette and respect. Keeping as much of the states land open in both recreational opportunities and enjoying the rich history of our state is EXTREMELY important to me.

I am writing this in response to a recent notice involving Martinez Canyon. I was VERY unhappy to personally see for myself the damage done to the Cabins, but am equally disturbed to hear the BLM is strongly considering an emergency closure as a result.

Emergency Closures tend to become permanent, and DO NOT serve the PUBLIC interest. Keeping the land open to responsible people is beneficial to the rich heritage Arizona has to showcase and continued access will pass along the importance of care and respect for the land. Closure only lets people forget and not show and teach all that is to be learned by those who are denied the opportunity to go and see such wonderful ares. I am requesting some mitigation steps be considered before closure.

The BLM Volunteer Red Shirts have offered numerous solutions in the past and I would hope these steps be considered again. 5-6 Years ago BLM was offered the services, at no cost to BLM, of a structural engineer to evaluate the stabilization of the cabin and the OHV community offered to supply the workers and materials to do what was needed. It was also felt that interpretative signs telling the history of the canyon would bring responsibility and ownership from the users. None of this was ever accepted by BLM. We are now in a situation that OHV community is paying the penalty for damage by abusers OTHER than OHV enthusiasts. Because of the intimation of the OHV being to blame for the destruction it certainly doesn't lend itself to partnerships between BLM and the OHV community. This area has been a local party spot (RAVE parties and drugs) for several years. The defacing of the historical cabin was not done by OHV. The bold writing on every wall in the cabin was NOT done by OHV enthusiasts.

The BLM Red Shirt Volunteers are those that do clean-ups; install kiosks and signs; obtain and offer these materials to BLM at no cost; we offer to Adopt trails and help with monitoring and maintenance; many of our OHV folks are now Site Stewards. We do this and still are the only recreationists denied access to a beautiful canyon because of our choice of transportation or recreation.

Why not implement some type of gate and permit access program? Those who are willing to go thru the proper steps to submit vehicle info to obtain a permit are certainly not the ones who are causing the demise of the area. Doing such or similar plan will deter the casual go out to party in the desert types from going and thus the problem is resolved and everyone will be happy.
I believe gating and permits for access to this canyon was recommended some time ago. I'm assuming if this canyon is closed to motorized use it will be gated at the entrance. Why could this not be a gate allowing for permitted access only?
It would certainly provide a way of collaborative efforts between the BLM and the public to maintain and preserve the area for multiple generations to enjoy responsibly.
It is respectfully requested BLM meet with the OHV Community leaders to discuss reaching an acceptable approach to this problem before decision of closure is made.

Thank you for your consideration.

Kirk B. Wagoner
713 w Marlboro Dr.
Chandler, Az. 85225
captkirkyota@cox.net

adamgil
08-22-2006, 07:15 PM
Letters sent :kewl:

.............A few members are currently disscusing organizing a trip to un-stack and clean up Martinez. A collaboration in this effort is always welcome! I will post here after the specifics are discussed and set a time if anyone is interested?

I would definantly be interested. let me know if you get anyting organized for sure.

lofreqjeff
08-22-2006, 07:25 PM
What the F*** is wrong with people!?!?!

I recently went down to the SIbley Mansion, and IT is closed. I'd hate to see another of the great trails around here close due to ingnorance and disrespect.

If anything is organized, I would love to volunteer as much time it takes. I also have alot of friends that live near there and would be interested in helping that are not board members, but will be more than happy to pitch in.

Please keep us updated!

adamgil
08-22-2006, 07:29 PM
I have some friends that would love to come help as well.

Kaistie
08-22-2006, 08:04 PM
You guys know I am always in for a clean up!! I will send my letter tomorrow as well! Man that just makes me sick to my stomach. Anything I can do to help I am in.

Crash
08-22-2006, 08:41 PM
Letters will be sent shortly, I also copied this thread to the main board. There are a lot of members that don't live in AZ that have wheeled this trail.

Mark in Az
08-22-2006, 08:58 PM
Please cc: this email addy ( My1stJeep@excite.com ) on one of your letters so the coalition can note how commited we are.
Thanks for taking the time to write letters!

Here's what I sent to all seven on the list:

August 22, 2006

Bureau of Land Management
Tucson Field Office
12661 E. Broadway
Tucson, AZ 85748-7208

ATTENTION: Mr. Patrick Madigan, Field Manager

Dear Mr. Madigan,

I am a member of Arizona Chapter of the Toyota Territory Off-Roaders
Association. Our local chapter represents nearly 300 Arizona members.

I have been off-roading, camping and fishing from Alpine to Yuma, and the North
Rim to Rucker Lake. I have spent the last 25 years enjoying the Arizona
backcountry, but keep returning to Martinez Canyon for its unmatched beauty and
rich history. I have had many opportunities to show Martinez to out of state
visitors and they too are impressed by the scenery and history it offers.

I am writing this in response to a recent notice involving Martinez Canyon. I
was dismayed to see the damage done to the Cabins, but was equally dismayed to
hear BLM is strongly considering an emergency closure as a result.

I fear such a closure might become permanent. Before making such a possible
permanent closure, please consider offers of cleanup and other assistance from
clubs like ours, and the off-road community in general. In the past our club has
assisted in organized cleanups and abandoned vehicle extractions, and we would
appreciate the opportunity to help keep Martinez open to our community.

It is respectfully requested that the BLM meet with the OHV Community leaders to
discuss reaching an acceptable approach to this problem before a decision of
closure is made.

Thank you for your consideration.

Mark Griese
Chandler, Az
602-471-****
mgriese@4x4wire.com

TBob
08-23-2006, 09:51 AM
from Hackle on the VJC

"Don't ever let someone tell you that your time sending a letter is wasted!

Sandee just called me after leaving a meeting at Tucson BLM. Per Patrick Martinez Canyon will not be closed to OHV use. We will need volunteers in the near future to help stabilize the Cabins and fence them off. We will also set up a kiosk of sorts to show the history of the area. Bottom line is the trail will stay open.
Good work to everyone that got invovled and sent letters.
Jim F.
__________________
President AZ RockRats
http://www.rockrats.org/
89 YJ Nearly Stock
Dana 60's frontw/ OX Locker and Dana 60 rear w/spool 39.5" IROC's 17" Walker Evans Bead locks"

4xClover
08-23-2006, 09:56 AM
from Hackle on the VJC

"Don't ever let someone tell you that your time sending a letter is wasted!

Sandee just called me after leaving a meeting at Tucson BLM. Per Patrick Martinez Canyon will not be closed to OHV use. We will need volunteers in the near future to help stabilize the Cabins and fence them off. We will also set up a kiosk of sorts to show the history of the area. Bottom line is the trail will stay open.
Good work to everyone that got invovled and sent letters.
Jim F.
__________________
President AZ RockRats
http://www.rockrats.org/
89 YJ Nearly Stock
Dana 60's frontw/ OX Locker and Dana 60 rear w/spool 39.5" IROC's 17" Walker Evans Bead locks"

AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing that Bob!!! Be sure to let the guys over there know that we as a club are also interested in helping stabilize the cabins or whatever they need.

Thanks again to everyone that sent in letters!!!

gambrinus
08-23-2006, 09:57 AM
...The bold writing on every wall in the cabin was done by an environmental BLM Volunteer. Your office staff know of this incident???? has he been banned?...

??? Whats the deal with this?

4xClover
08-23-2006, 10:00 AM
??? Whats the deal with this?

Yeah...that's kind of wierd.. :confused:

FAUX X 4
08-23-2006, 10:02 AM
from Hackle on the VJC

"Don't ever let someone tell you that your time sending a letter is wasted!

Sandee just called me after leaving a meeting at Tucson BLM. Per Patrick Martinez Canyon will not be closed to OHV use. We will need volunteers in the near future to help stabilize the Cabins and fence them off. We will also set up a kiosk of sorts to show the history of the area. Bottom line is the trail will stay open.
Good work to everyone that got invovled and sent letters.
Jim F.
__________________
President AZ RockRats
http://www.rockrats.org/
89 YJ Nearly Stock
Dana 60's frontw/ OX Locker and Dana 60 rear w/spool 39.5" IROC's 17" Walker Evans Bead locks"

That's very good news!!! :clap:

azredtaco
08-23-2006, 10:31 AM
AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing that Bob!!! Be sure to let the guys over there know that we as a club are also interested in helping stabilize the cabins or whatever they need.

Thanks again to everyone that sent in letters!!!
Awesome. I'm always in for helping with a building/ stabilizing project. I have quite a few tools, etc to help with masonry, framing, whatever is decided to be done. Just keep me posted.

1BLKJP
08-23-2006, 11:42 AM
Thanks TBob for posting up before I could get on here this morning. Yes the following information is correct. According to Patrick there will absolutely be no closure of Martinez Canyon. Patrick will also be drafting a letter of the sort from the BLM next week.

Thanks to all of you and your proactive nature in getting this information in front of the BLM employees that needed to see it.
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OHV Enthusiasts..........

While participating in a meeting today at the Tucson BLM office relating to the Ironwood National Monument I spoke briefly with Tucson Field Manager, Patrick Madigan. He related receiving numerous emails concerned about the possibility of an Emergency Closure at Martinez Canyon................

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING. Mr. Madigan assures me Martinez Canyon is not going to close. He will be sending out an official notice of this early next week.


Many of you met Mr. Madigan at the "valentines Day" meeting in February. I believe he is truly trying to work with us……………….. We need to stay with this guys (and gals). We can make this work for the betterment of our sport……………...

My THANKS to all of you for your concern and stepping up to support your sport when you're worried, but we now need to direct this participation towards partnering with our agencies. BLM is going to need our help to find a mitigation for Martinez Canyon that will work for all.

Please pass this on to your lists………………. THANKS,

Sandee

4xClover
08-23-2006, 12:00 PM
Thanks again for your efforts Jack! I am sure you noticed the other posts from Eric regarding a clean-up effort for Martinez in the planning stages as we speak. In addtion, please keep us all posted regarding the efforts to stabilize the cabins and/or any other efforts under way.

Thanks again!
Tim

FAUX X 4
08-23-2006, 12:01 PM
Thanks TBob for posting up before I could get on here this morning. Yes the following information is correct. According to Patrick there will absolutely be no closure of Martinez Canyon. Patrick will also be drafting a letter of the sort from the BLM next week.

Thanks to all of you and your proactive nature in getting this information in front of the BLM employees that needed to see it.
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OHV Enthusiasts..........

While participating in a meeting today at the Tucson BLM office relating to the Ironwood National Monument I spoke briefly with Tucson Field Manager, Patrick Madigan. He related receiving numerous emails concerned about the possibility of an Emergency Closure at Martinez Canyon................

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING. Mr. Madigan assures me Martinez Canyon is not going to close. He will be sending out an official notice of this early next week.


Many of you met Mr. Madigan at the "valentines Day" meeting in February. I believe he is truly trying to work with us……………….. We need to stay with this guys (and gals). We can make this work for the betterment of our sport……………...

My THANKS to all of you for your concern and stepping up to support your sport when you're worried, but we now need to direct this participation towards partnering with our agencies. BLM is going to need our help to find a mitigation for Martinez Canyon that will work for all.

Please pass this on to your lists………………. THANKS,

Sandee

AWESOME!!!.........Thanks for making us aware of this and please keep us updated on putting together a workgroup to help with the stabilization.

1BLKJP
08-23-2006, 02:01 PM
Thanks again for your efforts Jack! I am sure you noticed the other posts from Eric regarding a clean-up effort for Martinez in the planning stages as we speak. In addtion, please keep us all posted regarding the efforts to stabilize the cabins and/or any other efforts under way.

Thanks again!
Tim

Will do fella's. With groups like yours working with us we can make AZ a better place to wheel one trail at a time.