What to do with deavers?

[YoTRacer158]

Getting ready to order my 62's, but wondering what i can do short-term with them without going through the bed. I'll be running a cantilever setup, but it might take a while to get it done. What can I do short term to still take advantage of the extra travel? I'm wondering how much travel I can get with some under the bed shook hoops to know which shocks to order. The cantilever will use 10" bypasses, but I know I can get more travel than that staying vertical. I'm open to idea's so let me know. I'll be going with the 12.5" arch.

[Tweeter]

You can squeeze 12's under there. Ask Jesse I think he fit 14's or some godawful amount under the bed.

[PappaF2]

depending on the size of your triangle(cantaleiver) you can get more travel than the lenght of the shock would have normaly. Instead of making the triangle 1:1 make it longer on one side than the other (2:1 or 3:1 etc), then valve the shocks stiffer to compensate for the mechanical advantage the axles/canti's will have over them. That should get you more travel from a 10" shock.

[YoTRacer158]

Ask Jesse I think he fit 14's or some godawful amount under the bed.

Oh yeah I completely forgot about that setup...thanks

[YoTRacer158]

depending on the size of your triangle(cantaleiver) you can get more travel than the lenght of the shock would have normaly. Instead of making the triangle 1:1 make it longer on one side than the other (2:1 or 3:1 etc), then valve the shocks stiffer to compensate for the mechanical advantage the axles/canti's will have over them. That should get you more travel from a 10" shock.

no shit that's the whole point of a cantilever, it's about a 1.7:1 ratio pulling 17" out of the 10" bypass. Thanks.

[PappaF2]

no shit that's the whole point of a cantilever, it's about a 1.7:1 ratio pulling 17" out of the 10" bypass. Thanks.
aren't we testy today. I had no idea there was some sort of kit or predetermined 1.7:1 ratio that was use of all cant's. :rolleyes: Then why the shit don't you just do that? Just wait until you ready for cants then install your 62" springs. Why do the work twice?

[Tweeter]

Because he's super-edgy to get it done since he's been waiting longer than anticipated (haven't we all :rolleyes: ) honestly Derek I'd just wait for the cantilever and enjoy the build-up since I've been in that position before. I'll have my 62's on very very soon and I still don't have a bedcage and all that crap in yet either. I'm just going to pretend I never installed it and it's not even there hahaha

I know I got my TC shiat in like Nov and put it on in March so I waited a good 4 months..actually that's not bad...you've been waiting since Feb, so thats..1..2...6 months. Tell Drew to get crackin on the canti, I'm sure he kept the measurements so it shouldn't be that bad just takes awhile to cycle it all and get it right

[YoTRacer158]

aren't we testy today. I had no idea there was some sort of kit or predetermined 1.7:1 ratio that was use of all cant's. :rolleyes: Then why the shit don't you just do that? Just wait until you ready for cants then install your 62" springs. Why do the work twice?

Yeah sorry work is pissing me off today. The thing is, I'll knock the front end out on labor day weekend...and I'd like to get the rear end done at the same time. If the cantilever is ready by then, then I'll get it on...if not, I dont want to be rolling around with LT up front and a more or less stock rear end for who knows how long. A simple under the bed shock hoop and some longer shocks would be easy to put in, and easy to get out for the cantilever when it's ready.

you've been waiting since Feb, so thats..1..2...6 months.

Try about 11 months...been planning this since last September. Oh well, at least it's all comming together and I've had a lot more time to learn the in's and out's of everything. Are you going to the shock class next month?

I'm about to get a bender and start on all my cagework...going to start with the cab and then probably do bed and engine next. Doesn't hurt that all the tubing will be free :)

[Tweeter]

Try about 11 months...been planning this since last September. Oh well, at least it's all comming together and I've had a lot more time to learn the in's and out's of everything. Are you going to the shock class next month?

I'm about to get a bender and start on all my cagework...going to start with the cab and then probably do bed and engine next. Doesn't hurt that all the tubing will be free :)

Oh, same difference :p but it's different when you actually have the parts in your possesion. I'd take the time and effort to track down some rear shocks and get them valved right (12 comp 10 rebound might be a good place to start) so when you get the canti all done BAM it's all finished. What shock class are you talking about? Sounds interesting...

Cool, I want to rebuild my core support/engine cage and work backwards from there..

[YoTRacer158]

What shock class are you talking about? Sounds interesting...

Cool, I want to rebuild my core support/engine cage and work backwards from there..

I guess Donahoe is holding some shock class where they're teaching people how to do valving and a bunch of other stuff...saw a link to it on here somewhere.

[Baja Belk]

I guess Donahoe is holding some shock class where they're teaching people how to do valving and a bunch of other stuff...saw a link to it on here somewhere.

I think Wizard and Donahoe are doing it in Riverside or somewhere. Saw it on RDC.

The canti you're putting on, is that Drew's old kit that Dave had for a while?

[okie]

U dont have to have any shocks at all :D Just tough it out. :p

[YoTRacer158]

I think Wizard and Donahoe are doing it in Riverside or somewhere. Saw it on RDC.

The canti you're putting on, is that Drew's old kit that Dave had for a while?


Nah Drew has been a good friend of mine since junior high...doing a new one for mine. Knowing him and his room mates, we'll probably end up linking it or something...

[Kirkenhiemer]

Get some small limit straps and some big ass rubber bump stops. :missingto
Seriously you could do something like that and then when you get the cantaleiver you'll have one less step to worry about.

[ewong]

On the Gen1 4Runners (aka Gen2 pickup - IFS circa 86-95) you can use a short body remote res shock (I think its a 12 travel in a 10" can) - its been sooo long since I put em in there...

Cycle the suspension and measure Your points.....

[YoTRacer158]

Get some small limit straps and some big ass rubber bump stops. :missingto
Seriously you could do something like that and then when you get the cantaleiver you'll have one less step to worry about.

Yeah that's not a bad idea...Kartek has the rear LT kit for about $1k, which is everything minus shocks, so I'll probably pick that up. I just bought a set of 10" 7100's because i wasnt planning on getting 62's this soon...so they're pretty much useless now, unless I limit the hell out of the springs.

[Factor]

Wow, so your setup will cost 2k roughly and why is mine 4600?! =P

[YoTRacer158]

is that for your whole kit? the rear for mine will be +/- 3k or so, and the front (TC kit, axles, king shocks, front glass, gusseted spindles) was $3700. I'll be adding some triple bypasses up front eventually as well.

[Factor]

is that for your whole kit? the rear for mine will be +/- 3k or so, and the front (TC kit, axles, king shocks, front glass, gusseted spindles) was $3700. I'll be adding some triple bypasses up front eventually as well.

Damn! What shocks? Full bedcage, two tire carriers, 2.5'' triple bypasses at 600ea. Deavers obviously and bedsides. Parts I believe are 3300. Labor 1200.

I haven't done the front yet, my rear is completley blown out. Major axle wrap, so I figured i'd do that first. I'm hoping I can get some deal if I buy it all at once, maybe from Baja Concepts.

[YoTRacer158]

Damn! What shocks? Full bedcage, two tire carriers, 2.5'' triple bypasses at 600ea. Deavers obviously and bedsides. Parts I believe are 3300. Labor 1200.

I haven't done the front yet, my rear is completley blown out. Major axle wrap, so I figured i'd do that first. I'm hoping I can get some deal if I buy it all at once, maybe from Baja Concepts.

for the rear I'll be running 62's with king triple bypasses and a custom cantilever setup...why dont you do the work yourself and save $1200??? My bedcage (and all cagework) will be free as soon as I buy a bender.

[Factor]

Yea, I'm not skilled enough to do it myself =(

My days off are Tues-Wed too =\

[YoTRacer158]

Then have someone who is skilled help you out...you will learn a lot more about how everything works, and how to keep it working right if you do the install yourself.

[Factor]

Oh yea the install of the parts is fine. Its the building of the bedcage that is going to be a little too time consuming.

Unless anyone wants to help! haha.

[jon_7248]

I know I am not smart enough to know, so I;ll ask. What is a cantilever setup? Any pics?

[YoTRacer158]

Oh yea the install of the parts is fine. Its the building of the bedcage that is going to be a little too time consuming.

Unless anyone wants to help! haha.

I'm looking for a bender as we speak...when I finish mine I'll get some pics up and you can see if you like it.

[YoTRacer158]

I know I am not smart enough to know, so I;ll ask. What is a cantilever setup? Any pics?

http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29216&highlight=cantilever

[AllJumpStyle]

U dont have to have any shocks at all :D Just tough it out. :p
Yea, who needs shocks... lol

[Factor]

Yea who needs shocks, afterall I was in a highspeed rollover and it didn't have any! =)

[AllJumpStyle]

Yea, hopefully my shocks will be on by next week, it's a little annoying without them.

[okie]

LOL. I went without shocks for a while, couldn't tell a difference. But that was on my saggin stock springs. May be a different case for you though.

[jon_7248]

http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29216&highlight=cantilever

Whoa!! Now thats some serious stuff! :kewl:

[Baja Belk]

Yea, who needs shocks... lol

Ha, when my shocks got stolen, I had to drive into Riverside on 62's with no shocks. WOW. My rear-end was in the air and trying to swap sides going through the Banning highway whoops. I think my hands were sweatier then when I race...:D

[AllJumpStyle]

Lol, yea, with 62's it can get a little sketchy sometimes...

[okie]

Then it really is a different case for yall not having shocks. lol