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Mossyrocks
10-06-2006, 11:00 PM
It got dark before I could really flex it out so saturday is picture day.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac089b.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac090b.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac091b.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac092b.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac093b.jpg

now there are a couple of issues, for one my brand new 35s aren't mounted yet, 2nd the check engine light came on on the way home, 3rd the speedo isn't working, and last the front driveshaft is hitting the crossmember (miscalculated). but anyway, what do yall think. flaming is also allowed.

swank501
10-06-2006, 11:45 PM
Lookin good. Why do all the good builds have access to forklifts? That looks really good. What issues are you having with tires? Those look good on there whatever they are

exacto
10-07-2006, 12:48 AM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/mossysac090b.jpg

im sorry, but im still learning, what is that piece that i circled, and what does it do?

and nice SAC, looks really nice with the rims.

4TACXOMA4
10-07-2006, 12:52 AM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/mossysac090b.jpg

im sorry, but im still learning, what is that piece that i circled, and what does it do?

and nice SAC, looks really nice with the rims.
That's his bumpstop. If you look at one of the other pics you can see it better. It is designed to limit the uptravel, so the springs won't go to a negative arch.

Paul
10-07-2006, 12:53 AM
That is a bumpstop. They can save your shocks and or springs from damage.

exacto
10-07-2006, 12:58 AM
thanks

ike
10-07-2006, 04:50 AM
that looks awsome, one day ill have the dinero to do the same

Mossyrocks
10-07-2006, 08:11 AM
thats the factory bumpstop and Im not sure where it ends up yet so I might have to cut it off and put something different on there.

Timbuddha
10-07-2006, 08:43 AM
At that angle, those rear shocks will do nothing for you. You need to out board them to at least make them some what effective. other wise, nice rig.

Tim

Mossyrocks
10-07-2006, 09:00 AM
yea I agree, Im gonna wait and see what happens with em before I move them

tanKoma
10-07-2006, 09:24 AM
looks awesome, i like how clean the front looks with the hangers incorporated with the bumper, u gotta :saw: that muffler throw a new one in, keep the soot off that fresh new bilstein

4307
10-07-2006, 11:38 AM
Your rig looks really good! Love the front end! Just curious what is your final ride height with 33's. I know your going with 35's. I'm exploring all options regarding lower center of gravity and ride height for my build.

Mossyrocks
10-07-2006, 12:59 PM
I think its at 24", I'll measure it again to be sure in a little while though. And Im just gonna put a turndown at the muffler, I just haven't had time yet. Later on I'll re-do the whole exhaust though, kinda short on money at the moment.

4307
10-07-2006, 01:12 PM
Did you measure the ride height on 33's before you swapped? If so what was that height? :)

Mossyrocks
10-07-2006, 02:52 PM
Im not sure but it was only 2" over stock with 33s

Mossyrocks
10-07-2006, 04:16 PM
a couple from today
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac098b.jpg
I cant use 4wd yet because of the shaft so this is about it as far as flex goes around my house in 2wd.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac100b.jpg
and my brother-in-law. I think he likes it, he needs to hurry and finish his dang jeep though.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac099b.jpg
and heres the D-S, Im not sure where I went wrong other than starting on it after 15 hrs of straight work on the runner. Oh well, easy fix.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac104b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac105b.jpg

wslytoy
10-07-2006, 06:11 PM
that's a sweet ass 4Runner!

sgirt
10-07-2006, 09:46 PM
Wow. Looks great! I like it. I think you came out with the perfect ride height. What springs did you use?

Mossyrocks
10-08-2006, 07:02 AM
chevys in the rear and stock 6 leaf waggys in the front.

banThis
10-08-2006, 08:53 AM
heh, you said 'done'
no matter what you got left to do, it still feels good to drive it again, im sure.

Mossyrocks
10-08-2006, 10:17 AM
oh yea definately. I fixed the front D-S and the speedo this morning so theres not much left for now. I do need camber shims though.

Alan11116
10-09-2006, 08:28 AM
looks real good, Brad! congrats, man! I credit it all to those waggy springs. just teasing. looks good, though!

Captkirkyota
10-09-2006, 02:44 PM
Looks nice. You gonna go with TrXus in 35's?

Mossyrocks
10-09-2006, 02:57 PM
yup just got em on today, Im on dial-up so Im workin on pics right now.

Mossyrocks
10-09-2006, 03:34 PM
moved the shocks, fixed the d-s again, swapped sides with the brake line brackets, added a turn-down on the exhaust, and mounted the 35s.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac107b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac108b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac111b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac112b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac109b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac110b.jpg

aztaco1
10-09-2006, 03:46 PM
looks :xsmokin1:

Captkirkyota
10-09-2006, 06:16 PM
moved the shocks, fixed the d-s again, swapped sides with the brake line brackets, added a turn-down on the exhaust, and mounted the 35s.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac107b.jpg

Hmmmm, I personally would be concerned with the shocks this way, does not seem to give you much up travel when you articulate. Mine are at about that angle as far as the "/ \" is, but then angled back prolly 8-10 inches rearward of the axle centerline. That way you get much more up travel and a very nice ride.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/captkirkyota/WhitetanksMay05034.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/captkirkyota/Ruler%20and%20Scorpion%20run%20Nov%205%202005/20.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/captkirkyota/Ruler%20and%20Scorpion%20run%20Nov%205%202005/24.jpg
Shane's are the same way....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/captkirkyota/Ruler%20and%20Scorpion%20run%20Nov%205%202005/33.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/captkirkyota/Ruler%20and%20Scorpion%20run%20Nov%205%202005/34.jpg
Not trying to flame or say yours or anyone else's is wrong, just that with the length of shock you've got you need to do like ours or get a shorter shock, I think anyway. Pimpin runner for sure Mossy.
Like the TrXus very much as well.

awsumdc
10-09-2006, 06:20 PM
moved the shocks, fixed the d-s again, swapped sides with the brake line brackets, added a turn-down on the exhaust, and mounted the 35s.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac107b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac108b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac111b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac112b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac109b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac110b.jpg

Very nice rig. Glad to see you moved the shocks out.

Mossyrocks
10-09-2006, 06:43 PM
the problem is that being a runner, things are much different under there and there aren't many places for them to be mounted. Im also gonna add some on-board air under there so that even further complicates things. As of right now the tire stuffs pretty well, not the best but decent. I might try something else though. Oh and no problem on the critisism, thats what makes great rigs.

Captkirkyota
10-09-2006, 06:50 PM
the problem is that being a runner, things are much different under there and there aren't many places for them to be mounted. Im also gonna add some on-board air under there so that even further complicates things. As of right now the tire stuffs pretty well, not the best but decent. I might try something else though. Oh and no problem on the critisism, thats what makes great rigs.
I kinda thought about the room issues too, but it looks like you might have enough to move the cross bar back??? maybe not???? Regardless, very nice job indeed sir, very nice.
Hey, move the bar back and put air stuff centered over axle??? :dunno:

Mossyrocks
10-09-2006, 07:23 PM
then its either against my muffler and/or the gas fill lines. damn 4runners. If it weren't for camping in it, Id cut the floorboard and run the longest shock I could afford...

Mossyrocks
10-09-2006, 07:24 PM
I'll take a short break and then deal with it with fresh eyes.

tacd44
10-09-2006, 07:28 PM
Damn good job!!!!!!!!

Maybe you should consider getting the Front Range cross menber. Might be perfect for your application.

Toyo4x4
10-09-2006, 07:50 PM
Looks great man. Mind me asking where you got the 35s from? I see their prices jumped this past month everywhere :( Everywhere but tires international has them over $185 a piece for 35s.

Mossyrocks
10-09-2006, 07:54 PM
I've always had good luck with 4wps and they had shipping for $7 so I went ahead with it. They even called me the next day just to tell me they were in stock.

Mossyrocks
10-09-2006, 07:55 PM
I can make any crossmember for them as far as that goes.

banThis
10-09-2006, 09:55 PM
then its either against my muffler and/or the gas fill lines. damn 4runners. If it weren't for camping in it, Id cut the floorboard and run the longest shock I could afford...

ahh give it time. it wont be long before she'll be spread out int he back and have you sleeping under it, then youll wish youd put the shocks in there

Mossyrocks
10-10-2006, 03:02 PM
lol, good one.

Mossyrocks
10-10-2006, 03:03 PM
however I did move them back today. as much as I could anyways, prolly about a foot.

Mossyrocks
10-10-2006, 06:04 PM
got some trimming to do, and the tie rod and drag-link are slightly hitting the springs and frame.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac113b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac114b.jpg
heres the springs moved back and now hitting the body when I hit bumps
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac115b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac116b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac117b.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac119b.jpg

Captkirkyota
10-10-2006, 08:39 PM
got some trimming to do, and the tie rod and drag-link are slightly hitting the springs and frame.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/Telico%206-3-06/mossysac113b.jpg
So did you notice a difference in the ride with the re-lo of the rear shocks?
Nice flex BTW :kewl:

Mossyrocks
10-10-2006, 08:43 PM
it rides the same until you hit a dip or a bump on one side and not the other, it use to "shimmy" a little but not anymore. Thanks for the advice by the way. Now I just need the camber shims (ordered them tonight) and the stabilizer (ordered it last night). I also need some bumpstops for the front and the military wrap out of a tacoma pack.

Mossyrocks
10-11-2006, 05:46 PM
well I stole the bumpstops off my 87 P/U as well as the driveshaft bolts (lost the ones off the runner) so now I've gotta replace those on the 87.

96 runner
11-14-2006, 11:38 PM
mossy looks good i was wondering whats the height t the frame with 35s mines 25 right now with 33 i still have the ifs in the front till the front axles built which won't be long so for now i have to live with the dargster look. but it flexs nice still but i still need bumpstop. and handles better then in did with the coils i'll post some pic tommorow

Mossyrocks
11-15-2006, 04:54 AM
mossy looks good i was wondering whats the height t the frame with 35s mines 25 right now with 33 i still have the ifs in the front till the front axles built which won't be long so for now i have to live with the dargster look. but it flexs nice still but i still need bumpstop. and handles better then in did with the coils i'll post some pic tommorow


its 25" in the rear now and 24 3/4" in the front. I'll measure again later today and make sure but Im pretty sure thats what it is.

96 runner
11-15-2006, 08:09 PM
heres mine its 25 at the bottom of the frame and it rides 20 times better now

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3456/picture222dh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mossyrocks
11-16-2006, 06:09 AM
lookin good man. Its nice to come out low isn't it?

96 runner
11-17-2006, 03:03 PM
lookin good man. Its nice to come out low isn't it?


ya its not as low as i would like but 35s with stuff nicely.

wslytoy
11-17-2006, 07:33 PM
that's the nicest 4Runner I've seen in a while.... It's making me want a 4Runner over a newer Tacoma when I upgrade in Febuary...

Mossyrocks
11-18-2006, 03:58 PM
thank ya

psycho
12-12-2006, 02:20 PM
Look's great man. Any updates?

So how was it cutting off all the stock 4-link stuff?

Did you smooth down your 4runner axle too?

I'd really like to convert over to some chevy springs myself. Im running a trailmaster front end with a matching rear with landcruiser coils, and its starting to bug the shit outta me. Just extremely stiff and rough.

Mossyrocks
12-12-2006, 03:22 PM
yea I cut all of the linkage off the rear axle..... it was quite a bitch to do. No more updates everything is pretty much perfect. I will be doing an exo soon and then ram assist. maybe a d60 for the rear

oztaco
12-12-2006, 08:37 PM
moved the shocks, fixed the d-s again, swapped sides with the brake line brackets, added a turn-down on the exhaust, and mounted the 35s.


your shackle angle is way too much, they are laying down too much, front and back.
eye to eye should be off about 1". kind of like this /
other than than since you got the shocks fix it looks great.

Mossyrocks
12-12-2006, 08:44 PM
your shackle angle is way too much, they are laying down too much, front and back.
eye to eye should be off about 1". kind of like this /
other than than since you got the shocks fix it looks great.

they are good now. I put an aal in the front and moved the chevys back to the bottom hole to level with the front. They arent nearly as laid back but not quite down to 1" off eye-eye. But the springs dont have much arch on level ground and the shocks are my only limiting factor on downtravel. It flexes like crazy, rides great on and off road and is very stabile.