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yota4lyfe
12-07-2006, 08:32 PM
I will be a test dummy for some BEEFY lift spindles that will be for stock or longtravel suspension. Just curious who would be interested in some of these. With stock susp and these spindles you would have enough room for some 35" meats up front. I will verify. Just a Heads up for us 05+ Taco Prerunner dudes. (2wd) Pictures to follow.

marnes2986
12-07-2006, 08:40 PM
Thats what im talkin bout jeff!!!!!!!!!! kick ass!

Who's the fabricator??????

yota4lyfe
12-07-2006, 09:13 PM
Allied Motorsports (http://www.alliedoffroad.com/) in Corona. They used to work for Chaos. If you trust Chaos then you can trust these guys. Actually the guy responsible for the design of my lt kit is the guys here at Allied. I'm sure we will be hearing more about these guys as long as they can stay a float. It's a tuff business being fabbers.
Example of their work (http://dezertrangers.com/cgi-bin/ib/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=12;t=46789;hl=allied)
http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/kit.jpg
They will be working on an LT kit for our trucks that will get around 18" of plush travel.

brock
12-08-2006, 04:57 AM
im down. as long as i can still runt he same upper arms.

Allied
12-08-2006, 08:45 PM
http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/spindle-pair-m.jpg]

http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/spindle-backside-m.jpg

http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/ride-height.jpg

http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/spindle-side.jpg

2005-2007 Toyota Tacoma 4” lift spindle from Allied Motorsports. This spindle maintains stock suspension and steering geometry and we are planning on making it compatible with any manufacturers long travel kit. (We will be test fitting a set later this week) It will work with any UCA or bolt-in lift coil over. The biggest upgrade from stock is that now the lower ball joint plate is in double shear by two ½” thick tabs with 5/8” bolts, whereas factory is a single shear blind thread with 14mm bolts. The ABS sensor is relocated from the side of the spindle and placed on the top with its own access pocket. The caliper tabs are machined into spindle, they are not welded on. There is no cutting or grinding: the entire system is bolt-on. A longer brake line will be needed to run this spindle. We are looking to have a March 2007 release date and are taking pre-orders soon. Call or stop by for more info. 951.736.6571

yota4lyfe
12-08-2006, 09:06 PM
Oh snap! Those sheets are beautiful! I'll get my ride over to you guys asap!

genrec
12-08-2006, 09:07 PM
Shittttt.......nice!!! ..Keep us posted on these....Plan on powdercoating them?? or leaving them raw???...help me understand here...if I already have UCA's and CO's...what will these provide me exactly? These will let you align the car back to almost factory specs?

Thanks

genrec
12-08-2006, 09:08 PM
Oh ya, will this keep the stock wheel base or extend it at all??

yota4lyfe
12-08-2006, 09:14 PM
Oh ya, will this keep the stock wheel base or extend it at all??
same wheel base. +1" per side wider

Allied
12-08-2006, 10:08 PM
The spindles will be powdercoated (probably black). These will give you an additional 4" of lift, on top of your 3" adjustable coilover. This should allow for a 35" tire to fit nice and snug with minor trimming. And because it widens the trackwidth 1" per side it should allow for additional turning clearance with larger tires. And yes this spidle is built off of factory geometry so alignment should not be an issue.

N0rbert
12-08-2006, 10:20 PM
When are you all going to get your site up and running? I want to see more pictures of the Colo/Can!

Allied
12-08-2006, 10:24 PM
Are site will hopefully be up and running next week. If you want more info on the colorado send an email to info@alliedoffroad.com and we will give you plenty of pics.

marnes2986
12-08-2006, 10:37 PM
Beefy as hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soo the benefits are added lift and a double shear spindle?????? I like the double shear part, but since i have bolt-on coilovers cranked for 2.5" of lift are you telling me im gonna have an added 4" lift, giving me a total of 6.5" of lift!!!!!!!!!!! If thats true i wouldnt want the higher COG.....please correct me if im wrong...maybe im just not understanding :confused:

Allied
12-08-2006, 10:57 PM
Yes thats the case if you wanted that much lift. But if you don't, just relax the preload on the coilover. Also the track width is widened 1" to help handling with the increased COG.

BLOWNYOTA
12-08-2006, 11:27 PM
They used to work for Chaos. If you trust Chaos then you can trust these guys.

You said to trust Chaos. I think that is a great idea.

ryguy
12-09-2006, 12:21 AM
ok.. I need these!! I also want to know if they work with 4wd?? Ill come straight to you like tomorrow!

Allied
12-09-2006, 12:30 AM
These do not work with 4wd, only the Prerunners. The wheel mounting location moves and the lower arm position does not. So the arm is now mounted where the CV would go. You could always ditch the 4wd though :)

yota4lyfe
12-09-2006, 12:49 AM
ok.. I need these!! I also want to know if they work with 4wd?? Ill come straight to you like tomorrow!
Calm down dude. It's not gonna work with your crawler.lol

ryguy
12-09-2006, 12:55 AM
DANG!! Anything else? Can you fab me up some that will work with 4wd? Please! I rock crawl the sand my friend!

yota4lyfe
12-09-2006, 01:01 AM
I rock crawl the sand my friend!
Huh? you should SAS your chit. Like your buddies at Demello.

ryguy
12-09-2006, 01:02 AM
ya ya what ever.. So anything that I can do?

brock
12-09-2006, 03:54 AM
how about a 2" lift spindle instead? any way you guys could just make 2" instead of 4"? i want just enough to level out with deavers, and im sure a lot more pople want that. .

genrec
12-09-2006, 08:35 AM
how about a 2" lift spindle instead? any way you guys could just make 2" instead of 4"? i want just enough to level out with deavers, and im sure a lot more pople want that. .


+1...I am def more opt to run another 2 inches and 1 inch wider stance....added to my CO's...for a total of like 4.5" of lift.....

06HAOLE
12-09-2006, 10:26 AM
Got so excited till I read the rest of the post that said for 2 wheel only. It is so much easier for the 2WD prerunners to tear it up. Almost makes me wish I had gotten a pre runner. One day both.

ryguy
12-09-2006, 10:32 AM
No way! 4wd is the way to go! Others may argue, but anyways. Maybe they can come out with a 4wd one? Ill donate a spindal for R&D work so us 4wd can have that!! I would love that lift! Then you can lower your coils to have even a smoother ride!! and to have another 1" wider!! Makes me very happy!

06HAOLE
12-09-2006, 11:08 AM
No way! 4wd is the way to go! Others may argue, but anyways. Maybe they can come out with a 4wd one? Ill donate a spindal for R&D work so us 4wd can have that!! I would love that lift! Then you can lower your coils to have even a smoother ride!! and to have another 1" wider!! Makes me very happy!
I get what your saying about the better ride by getting the longer spindle and adjusting the CO lower but arent we still limited to 3" on our CO overall whether the lift is achieved by spindle/CO? I plan on adding Donahoe UCAs anyway but they still say not to go 3"+ on the 05+ Tacoma 4x4 even with the UCA.

ryguy
12-09-2006, 11:38 AM
correct due to the load your putting on the spring. If you crank them too high your ride will suffer, or be really stiff. But if these spindals work out. Then you can take less turns off your coils and get the height by the spindals not the compression of the coil.

AllJumpStyle
12-09-2006, 02:43 PM
I don't think you guys understand how lift spindles work. It is impossible to do while retaining 4wd. This picture shows Dan Vance's 2wd truck with custom 4wd lift spindles. The lower arm is obviously in the way of an axle.
http://chaosfab.com/12.05/vance10_06.jpg

SantaCruzRC
12-09-2006, 03:23 PM
You could put in portal hubs, mog style, or some other rediculously complex disaster waiting to happen :rolleyes:, or you could do a SAS.

06HAOLE
12-09-2006, 04:15 PM
I stand corrected. So these custom spindles will not work with 4wd? Even in a more shortended version than the 2wd? Im way too broke to go LT so Im working with my COs and one day Donahoe UCAs for my setup.

marnes2986
12-10-2006, 03:32 AM
I stand corrected. So these custom spindles will not work with 4wd? Even in a more shortended version than the 2wd? Im way too broke to go LT so Im working with my COs and one day Donahoe UCAs for my setup.

Shit...im craving to go LT..so im saving all i can!

SinCityTaco
12-10-2006, 08:45 PM
Why would you want to combine these with a LT kit. Who wants a huge lift with an LT kit. That would make for way to high of a center of gravity. It would be cool to just run 35 with no LT kit though. I have a Camburg LT kit and the front has all the lift I need and I have the COs sagged out soft and it still sits higher in the front with deavers in the rear. I am running 295/70/17 and I have plenty of clearance.
These would be perfect for somebody who wanted to run 35s by combining them with some OME coils to = 1 inch to make for five inches and some Deavers or Dakars in the rear.

brock
12-10-2006, 09:04 PM
ya, maybe if they made a 2" spindle it would be better with lt. a stronger spindle is always a good thing.

okie
12-10-2006, 10:47 PM
Allied Motorsports (http://www.alliedoffroad.com/) in Corona.
Example of their work (http://dezertrangers.com/cgi-bin/ib/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=12;t=46789;hl=allied)
http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/kit.jpg
They will be working on an LT kit for our trucks that will get around 18" of plush travel.

Thats a colorado. I thought that was to skinny for a taco tierod. :rolleyes:

yota4lyfe
12-10-2006, 11:02 PM
Why would you want to combine these with a LT kit. Who wants a huge lift with an LT kit. That would make for way to high of a center of gravity. It would be cool to just run 35 with no LT kit though. I have a Camburg LT kit and the front has all the lift I need and I have the COs sagged out soft and it still sits higher in the front with deavers in the rear. I am running 295/70/17 and I have plenty of clearance.
These would be perfect for somebody who wanted to run 35s by combining them with some OME coils to = 1 inch to make for five inches and some Deavers or Dakars in the rear.
He lives! I will be able to take out all the preload on my coil overs and the truck will only sit 1 inch higher from where it is. I go to the Dezert and use my truck. The ground clearance sux from the lower arm down. Ever drive down Barstow main and see how fast 1 foot boulders show up? It's pretty scary.That was and has been one of my concerns with this truck plus those stock spindles just look janky. So we will all see. Oh yeah my truck is at their shop as we speak. :eek:

ryguy
12-11-2006, 04:25 PM
Nice man!! Im sure it will look sick!! and ride amazing!

str8xedge
12-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Those things are bitchen! Too bad no one came out with something similar for the 95.5-04 models. :(

AllJumpStyle
12-11-2006, 05:07 PM
Too bad no one makes them for my truck, oh wait, fabtech did, but not anymore... :(

yota4lyfe
12-11-2006, 05:13 PM
Too bad no one makes them for my truck, oh wait, fabtech did, but not anymore... :(
Just Get the TC race kit. It comes with killer spindles. ;)

ryguy
12-11-2006, 05:35 PM
is it long travel?

yota4lyfe
12-11-2006, 05:44 PM
is it long travel?
No it's race travel. WTF is wrong with you man?
http://chaosfab.com/12.05/vance10_06.jpg

AllJumpStyle
12-11-2006, 06:07 PM
Haha, as much as I want it, (and Nicole might even sell me it) I don't currently have the 5k needed for sicky gnar race travel. lol

06HAOLE
12-11-2006, 08:15 PM
Why would you want to combine these with a LT kit. Who wants a huge lift with an LT kit. That would make for way to high of a center of gravity. It would be cool to just run 35 with no LT kit though. I have a Camburg LT kit and the front has all the lift I need and I have the COs sagged out soft and it still sits higher in the front with deavers in the rear. I am running 295/70/17 and I have plenty of clearance.
These would be perfect for somebody who wanted to run 35s by combining them with some OME coils to = 1 inch to make for five inches and some Deavers or Dakars in the rear.

Are you referring to 2wd trucks? I had this posted up when I thought it would work on my 4wd. Im the new guy here so Im reading what anybody has to say.

All Jump Style
I don't think you guys understand how lift spindles work. It is impossible to do while retaining 4wd. This picture shows Dan Vance's 2wd truck with custom 4wd lift spindles. The lower arm is obviously in the way of an axle.

AllJumpStyle
12-11-2006, 09:08 PM
Why would you want to combine these with a LT kit. Who wants a huge lift with an LT kit. That would make for way to high of a center of gravity. It would be cool to just run 35 with no LT kit though. I have a Camburg LT kit and the front has all the lift I need and I have the COs sagged out soft and it still sits higher in the front with deavers in the rear. I am running 295/70/17 and I have plenty of clearance.
These would be perfect for somebody who wanted to run 35s by combining them with some OME coils to = 1 inch to make for five inches and some Deavers or Dakars in the rear.
These lift spindles are not designed so you can "lift" your truck. Lift spindles are designed so you can run a better ratio of bump/droop travel and to get more ground clearance at bump. Tacomas don't have the best ground clearance at bump, may be one reason why motor mounts break? Just a thought.

genrec
12-11-2006, 09:13 PM
enough bickering fellas!

I want to know how to break these? How stong are they, what disadvantages are there in using these? Where does a potential problem exist if one exists at all?

AllJumpStyle
12-11-2006, 09:16 PM
You could probably run an air bump off the spindle now...

SinCityTaco
12-11-2006, 10:53 PM
Huh, interesting point Yota4life. My truck is a dune truck so I don't have to worry about boulders. That down travel will be nice when you get those spindles. I can't wait to see pics.

OOwballer
12-12-2006, 01:39 AM
Huh, interesting point Yota4life. My truck is a dune truck so I don't have to worry about boulders. That down travel will be nice when you get those spindles. I can't wait to see pics.


you do NOT gain travel with lift spindles. You do however gain ground clearance...so when you are at full bump you are going to have 4"s more ground clearance, which is a huge help especially on larger hits

brock
12-12-2006, 03:45 AM
im checking out these badboys today. hopefully put some $ down for some.

yota4lyfe
12-12-2006, 06:19 AM
Those things are bitchen! Too bad no one came out with something similar for the 95.5-04 models. :(
ESB and Velocity did but you had to run their kit. Allied is going the next step to run on stock and the 2 lt kits out there. Call them up and have them make em for you.

brock
12-12-2006, 03:53 PM
dropped by the shop today. Both guys working there were very nice guys and answered all the questions i had. Can't wait for these spindles to come out and i call dibs on the next set after yota4lyfe! lol. BTW, your truck looks awesome man, i stole the keys and drove it around riverside and hit a few jumps... hope you don't mind. lol. jk. I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of nice stuff coming out of this shop. Their colorado kit looks beefy as fuck.

ryguy
12-12-2006, 08:46 PM
4wd :(

marnes2986
12-13-2006, 01:17 AM
dropped by the shop today. Both guys working there were very nice guys and answered all the questions i had. Can't wait for these spindles to come out and i call dibs on the next set after yota4lyfe! lol. BTW, your truck looks awesome man, i stole the keys and drove it around riverside and hit a few jumps... hope you don't mind. lol. jk. I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of nice stuff coming out of this shop. Their colorado kit looks beefy as fuck.

I have yet to meet you Brock.... you should show up at the CT meet in Hooters (anaheim) I think its this sunday, i guess were gonna hit some light trails afterwards...just a heads up

brock
12-13-2006, 01:31 AM
lol, i wont have any weekends off until after xmas. thats what happens when u work at costco... if there is anything during the week i am down for sure!

genrec
12-13-2006, 06:51 AM
I have yet to meet you Brock.... you should show up at the CT meet in Hooters (anaheim) I think its this sunday, i guess were gonna hit some light trails afterwards...just a heads up


send me a link..where is this..and all that good shit.

ryguy
12-13-2006, 09:39 AM
I have yet to meet you Brock.... you should show up at the CT meet in Hooters (anaheim) I think its this sunday, i guess were gonna hit some light trails afterwards...just a heads up
what is this meet your talking about at hooters? :)

BRUUUP
12-13-2006, 10:44 AM
This spindle is great for making a 5.5 kit for a taco like the one for 98+ rangers from the Burg. You take this spindle UCA of your choice and COs of your choice run them soft and you have yourself a low budget DIYS mid travel kit. Great start for a budget prerunner.

marnes2986
12-14-2006, 12:38 AM
send me a link..where is this..and all that good shit.


http://www.customtacos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76767

OC Custom Taco Meet

Its not as big as the annual Huntington Beach meet But itll be good to see new faces. And i guess we might hit some light dirt trails in OC, not anything crazy. Come out! havent met you yet! Jeff you too, gawddamn!!!!!!!

str8xedge
12-14-2006, 11:29 AM
ESB and Velocity did but you had to run their kit. Allied is going the next step to run on stock and the 2 lt kits out there. Call them up and have them make em for you.

Ill just wait for the new Camburg kit. :D

SinCityTaco
12-14-2006, 07:25 PM
What new camburg kit? I didn't know they had one in the works, more info please.

genrec
12-14-2006, 08:57 PM
What new camburg kit? I didn't know they had one in the works, more info please.

http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25277&page=4&pp=30

click, goto page 4....almost at the bootom, Scott from camburg talks about it.
Its is for 2wd only, it has a wider stance, and a custom spindle.....it will be bank.

MGlassco
12-14-2006, 09:05 PM
you do NOT gain travel with lift spindles. You do however gain ground clearance...

Since they are +1" wouldnt you gain some travel? Like a ruler that moves the same motion over and over the 6" mark on the ruler for example will tarvel up a down lets say 4" but and the 7" mark on the ruler it could be going 4.25" right? Just trying to learn, thanks - Morgan

marnes2986
12-14-2006, 09:31 PM
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25277&page=4&pp=30

click, goto page 4....almost at the bootom, Scott from camburg talks about it.
Its is for 2wd only, it has a wider stance, and a custom spindle.....it will be bank.

IM saving and saving! Go Camburg hahaha

genrec
12-14-2006, 09:34 PM
IM saving and saving! Go Camburg hahaha


How much longer do you predict before you do it.........you gonna go with the original kit or the new race kit?

marnes2986
12-14-2006, 10:09 PM
How much longer do you predict before you do it.........you gonna go with the original kit or the new race kit?

Depends on how much the race kit is......ive got 2k right now.......i eat my luches and my grandma's hahahahaha

Just saving up...it wont be soon but im gettin there

genrec
12-14-2006, 10:22 PM
Depends on how much the race kit is......ive got 2k right now.......i eat my luches and my grandma's hahahahaha

Just saving up...it wont be soon but im gettin there

you can add another 2k for all th shit you put on your truck you will have to sale.....you have 4k

06HAOLE
12-14-2006, 10:45 PM
These lift spindles are not designed so you can "lift" your truck. Lift spindles are designed so you can run a better ratio of bump/droop travel and to get more ground clearance at bump. Tacomas don't have the best ground clearance at bump, may be one reason why motor mounts break? Just a thought.
Sorry if I come off harsh Im so new to this LT and desert stuff. Thanks for clearing this up. Like I said theres tons of guys on this forum who have a wealth of knowledge and I for one am listening and reading.

MGlassco
12-15-2006, 08:08 AM
Depends on how much the race kit is......ive got 2k right now.......i eat my luches and my grandma's hahahahaha

Just saving up...it wont be soon but im gettin there

Huh? I thought that was for the older gen taco's

marnes2986
12-15-2006, 09:49 AM
Huh? I thought that was for the older gen taco's

Yeah most likely......couldnt afford it anyways

Genrec: Thats true! ill have 4k if i sell my dhoes, but then i can just buy the front susp and only end up with a stock rear (BRO status)....i need to find 2k more then ill be set for something up front :)

yota4lyfe
12-15-2006, 11:16 AM
Yeah most likely......couldnt afford it anyways

Genrec: Thats true! ill have 4k if i sell my dhoes, but then i can just buy the front susp and only end up with a stock rear (BRO status)....i need to find 2k more then ill be set for something up front :)
You have enough for the tax.lol Save enough to buy another truck and you'll be there. Good luck with your finances man! Stuff goes FAST. Go buy 4 bypass shocks and coil overs and see what you are left with. Shizzle! :eek:

ryguy
12-16-2006, 12:10 AM
true.. arent they 1k ea ;) ;) yota your loaded.

str8xedge
12-18-2006, 01:24 PM
Huh? I thought that was for the older gen taco's

Camburg has a kit currently out for the '95-'04 tacos. The are currently developing a new kit for that year taco with a new spindle/hub assembly. The kit should be priced in the same ball park and the ranger race kits,somewhere around $5k.

Tweeter
12-18-2006, 02:24 PM
true.. arent they 1k ea ;) ;) yota your loaded.

Not necessarily, depends who you know. I'm getting my bypasses for under 1k, sucka :D

ryguy
12-18-2006, 04:10 PM
well i need to know these people!! haha. Oh well :(

Tweeter
12-18-2006, 04:57 PM
well i need to know these people!! haha. Oh well :(

You can start by spending a gazillion dollars on your truck hahaha. That's when you start making friends lol.

yota4lyfe
12-18-2006, 11:15 PM
I got these bad boyees on the truck. I dont feel like sharing any pics with you guys tonight so maybe the guys at Allied will share their pics. We already put 2 good street jumps on these and all is good. So I will beat on these for a bit so they can release them if all is good and they give them the stamp of approval. The ride height is about 1.5 taller than the original ride height and the new bump droop is about 50/50. Oh yeah now I can roll some 37's if I want cause these things give me mad clearance. :woot:
I also want to thank the guys @ Allied for making this happen!

str8xedge
12-19-2006, 09:04 AM
I got these bad boyees on the truck. I dont feel like sharing any pics with you guys tonight so maybe the guys at Allied will share their pics. We already put 2 good street jumps on these and all is good. So I will beat on these for a bit so they can release them if all is good and they give them the stamp of approval. The ride height is about 1.5 taller than the original ride height and the new bump droop is about 50/50. Oh yeah now I can roll some 37's if I want cause these things give me mad clearance. :woot:
I also want to thank the guys @ Allied for making this happen!


Cmon lets see some pics you weiner!

Allied
12-19-2006, 09:45 AM
http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/jeff-susdown.jpg
http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/front-rideheight.jpg
http://www.alliedoffroad.com/31337/jeff-droop.jpg

Just as Jeff said, the spindles added some much needed clearance in all areas (the lower arm is now a healthy 13" from the ground) and the tires don't even come close to the body on compression. We were very happy with the outcome. A much needed upgrade to make an excellent product even better. Hopefully Jeff abuses these to no end to make sure they're good enough for everyone else! And thanks to Tim at DMZ.

ryguy
12-19-2006, 12:26 PM
that looks nice. Now time to come out with 4wd version.. :)

marnes2986
12-19-2006, 02:00 PM
Jeff you suck!!!!!!!!!!!!! <<<<thats the jelousy talkin......but all in all that new spindle kicks ass

yota4lyfe
12-19-2006, 05:40 PM
that looks nice. Now time to come out with 4wd version.. :)
Are you still smokin crack man. Like I said. They will never work on your crawler! lol :eek:

SinCityTaco
12-19-2006, 06:36 PM
How bout that, pretty fucking cool. Now we need to see some more pics because my curiosity is killing me as to what it looks like from other angles.

yota4lyfe
12-19-2006, 10:32 PM
Hey man they do need a Camburg LT kit to test fit these bad boys on.

yota4lyfe
12-19-2006, 10:42 PM
Before
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Fishtako/IMG_2891.jpg
after
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m2/Fishtako/IMG_3694.jpg

ryguy
12-19-2006, 10:58 PM
looking good. Making me jealous! I love it!!

marnes2986
12-20-2006, 02:42 AM
That a good close up of your bumper! is that what you did with your stock fog lights (little black cylinder)????

SinCityTaco
12-20-2006, 06:53 PM
Well count me in. Put me in touch with them so we can work out the details.

pgthe1
12-20-2006, 08:20 PM
looks cute :blingb:

Kirkenhiemer
12-20-2006, 08:44 PM
Wouldn't having a taller spindle put the upper arm through the hood?

genrec
12-22-2006, 09:13 PM
BUMP for updates!!! You beat on these yet Jeff??!

yota4lyfe
12-23-2006, 12:29 AM
BUMP for updates!!! You beat on these yet Jeff??!
Daily. I just got done doin some urban jumps and local dirt today and had Allied check them out. Holding strong so far. Now I'm just monitoring the Motor mounts. They should also be fine because my truck lands like a pillow. :cool:

marnes2986
12-23-2006, 01:09 AM
Kick ass Jeff! :cool:

Baja Belk
12-23-2006, 12:20 PM
Now it's time for some beefier tierods...

SinCityTaco
12-23-2006, 07:06 PM
Yeah mine lands smooth as butter too, but still a little choppy around town.

yota4lyfe
12-23-2006, 08:54 PM
Now it's time for some beefier tierods...
That is a work in progress. No one makes bolt on stuff for me so I have to have stuff made. :(

ryguy
12-24-2006, 10:44 PM
Yeup and everyone is dying to get ahold of your truck! OH YA!!

yota4lyfe
12-26-2006, 11:31 PM
Yeup and everyone is dying to get ahold of your truck! OH YA!!
WTF? What are you saying? Go play with your AFE intake or something! :p

Birdhunter
01-06-2007, 09:15 AM
Yota- How are the spindles holding up? I am interested in hearing more on these.

marnes2986
01-06-2007, 07:55 PM
Yota- How are the spindles holding up? I am interested in hearing more on these.

haha Ill tell you personally that they hold up well hahaha

Jeff show him the Vids :D

yota4lyfe
01-06-2007, 08:51 PM
So far so good. I can personaly say that these things are top notch quality. After a drive in the dezert like I did today my steering wheel would have been out of wack. I don't know if these have anything to with that but I just have peice of mind now. Thanks Allied MS. :)

ryguy
01-06-2007, 11:30 PM
so after wheeling today no probs eh?? Man wishing that 4wd spindals would be so cool!

marnes2986
01-06-2007, 11:36 PM
so after wheeling today no probs eh?? Man wishing that 4wd spindals would be so cool!

Dude! I read on a thread that youre selling all your susp??

ryguy
01-07-2007, 11:26 AM
ya. Im going to LT thanks to jeff and all my dezert buds.. Now the real thing is being created! I have most sold, jjust need to sell those Dhoe UCA's! Anyways, Ill post pics soon.

ocdropzone
01-07-2007, 11:36 PM
ya. Im going to LT thanks to jeff and all my dezert buds.. Now the real thing is being created! I have most sold, jjust need to sell those Dhoe UCA's! Anyways, Ill post pics soon. cool that you are going long travel...must be going broke though redoing everything... :D

ryguy
01-07-2007, 11:42 PM
You dont know the half of it. I have a bumper and UCA's for sale! If you want them, they are on a great deal!!

yota4lyfe
01-08-2007, 06:24 AM
Ryan stop ruining this this thread with your nonsense. Post up a NEW POST about a guy who never listened. Enough of your chit already. :mad:

ryguy
01-08-2007, 11:40 AM
fine geeze!

Motofreak429
01-09-2007, 11:50 AM
If you put up a price. ill get them but hopfully its around 750$ to 900$ if any high it might be a little costly.

yota4lyfe
01-09-2007, 10:19 PM
If you put up a price. ill get them but hopfully its around 750$ to 900$ if any high it might be a little costly.
I'm pretty sure that they will be in that range. Don't quote me but give Allied (http://www.alliedoffroad.com/) a call. These should be ready in March.

marnes2986
01-10-2007, 12:00 AM
Alright im comtemplating on getting these babys!

MY problem is the ground clearance. I need more height. When i was going through those Barstow whoops my front end kept slamming on the stock skid pretty hard, thus making me slow down. At first i was thiking about getting a fr bumper/skid but whats the point when i would be slamming down on my skid. We'll see, but i defintely need to upgrade. I wanna go faster through the whoops but the Dhoes get a little squirly :2cents:

brock
01-10-2007, 01:45 AM
give total chaos a call marnes... lol

MGlassco
01-10-2007, 08:34 AM
Alright im comtemplating on getting these babys!

MY problem is the ground clearance. I need more height. When i was going through those Barstow whoops my front end kept slamming on the stock skid pretty hard, thus making me slow down. At first i was thiking about getting a fr bumper/skid but whats the point when i would be slamming down on my skid. We'll see, but i defintely need to upgrade. I wanna go faster through the whoops but the Dhoes get a little squirly :2cents:


GET BOTH!!!!!!, (if you can)

but with those you would gain minimum an inch of lift over what you have now if you softened the load on the CO's,

with those on your setup would about max out your "Mid travel" truck , not much to do other then LT it after that

ryguy
01-10-2007, 09:39 AM
the front bumper isnt your problem. BTW, if you get an aftermarket one, the location is way different. Your skid plate from the factory is in the wrong position. As MGlassco said, next step if you want to get more travel is LT, but it is more money. Another route is those spindles that Allied sells. Jeff has them and seems to work great. Just depends on what you want to do with the truck and how much you want to spend ;)

MGlassco
01-10-2007, 09:47 AM
hey RYGUY, got any pics of your rig yet?

ryguy
01-10-2007, 10:46 AM
I do, just cant figure out how to get them off the camera with this new mac I bought. :(

yota4lyfe
01-10-2007, 11:13 AM
I do, just cant figure out how to get them off the camera with this new mac I bought. :(
I saw that POS polluting up the DMZ. Get that POS outta there! :eek:

ryguy
01-10-2007, 11:43 AM
thanks.. make me feel so wanted. And I was just wanting to copy my hero's truck and this is how Im treated? :confused:

yota4lyfe
01-10-2007, 12:58 PM
thanks.. make me feel so wanted. And I was just wanting to copy my hero's truck and this is how Im treated? :confused:
If you would've listened to me the first time your truck would've been done in one stop instead of the many transformations your crawler has been through. At least you made it to the right shop. Now stop messing up this thread! ;)

ryguy
01-10-2007, 01:23 PM
gotcha! Spindles are great!! yeah!!! LT is wonderful!! YEAH!!

onlyzenki
01-10-2007, 07:28 PM
thanks.. make me feel so wanted. And I was just wanting to copy my hero's truck and this is how Im treated? :confused:
dude you are gay

ryguy
01-10-2007, 07:53 PM
wow obiously you dont know us here. haha man touchy. I know yota! Cant be gay and married bro. Lets get back to subject about spindles!!!

Baja Belk
01-10-2007, 09:37 PM
Cant be gay and married bro.

In some states you can....:rolleyes:

ryguy
01-10-2007, 10:33 PM
ok Im not gay.. next..

Slergio
01-11-2007, 08:00 PM
ya. Im going to LT thanks to jeff and all my dezert buds.. Now the real thing is being created! I have most sold, jjust need to sell those Dhoe UCA's! Anyways, Ill post pics soon.

In my opinion, you should definitely go long travel. Then you'll need the glass up front, then the back glass. to match the front. Then I'll buy your driver's side bedside.

Here's what my driver's side bedside is going to look like (on the truck I'm buying.)

ryguy
01-12-2007, 09:18 AM
Ill see. Not official on what I want to do with my bedsides.

smp663
01-12-2007, 11:19 AM
Just curious if any one has ever tried to sell their fenders/bedsides to a body shop after installing fiberglass. Worth a shot maybe to get rid of them.

Tweeter
01-12-2007, 11:28 AM
In some states you can....:rolleyes:

You'd know best right? Oh snap! :lmao:

ryguy
01-12-2007, 11:45 AM
I have.. Posted it and tried selling it. They are so damn picky. But I guess $100 a fender is better than $0.00 You just try to hopefully get people that got in accidents and need these!

Slergio
01-12-2007, 02:11 PM
Ill see. Not official on what I want to do with my bedsides.
Let me know. I'll be looking. I hope to have my truck shipped f/Texas next week. Where you located? I didn't see it in your profile?

Slergio
01-12-2007, 02:28 PM
just read another thread that says you're in Anaheim. You're about 4 hours from where I'm at. Here's some food for thought. I think I'd be willing to drive 4 hours to buy a driver's side bedside, if the price was under $300 for just the one bedside. Think about it, or make a counteroffer if you decide later on.

ryguy
01-12-2007, 06:48 PM
PM me.. I dont want to crowd this thread with bedsides stuff. I have many offers for them, so PM me.

Baja Belk
01-12-2007, 08:44 PM
You'd know best right? Oh snap! :lmao:

BURN

ryguy
01-12-2007, 08:57 PM
Tweeter got the front LT done! OMG what a difference. Also saw those Lift spindles from Allied. They stopped by the shop I was at and these things are great looking! Helps when you have tons of experience at a fab shop then go on and make your own stuff!!

SCEXPLORER
01-21-2007, 08:40 PM
Tweeter got the front LT done! OMG what a difference. Also saw those Lift spindles from Allied. They stopped by the shop I was at and these things are great looking! Helps when you have tons of experience at a fab shop then go on and make your own stuff!!

Let's see this LT kit! How long did it take DMZ to put it on?

AllJumpStyle
01-22-2007, 01:48 PM
Also saw those Lift spindles from Allied. They stopped by the shop I was at and these things are great looking! Helps when you have tons of experience at a fab shop then go on and make your own stuff!!
:rolleyes:

SCEXPLORER
01-22-2007, 05:26 PM
So if you install these spindles? Are you still able to use the front swaybar?

AllJumpStyle
01-22-2007, 07:19 PM
Doesn't the swaybar connect to the lower arm?

AllJumpStyle
01-22-2007, 07:21 PM
Just curious, how many of these lift spindles has Allied sold?

yota4lyfe
01-22-2007, 07:45 PM
Just curious, how many of these lift spindles has Allied sold?
They are not ready for the Public yet but I do have a pair. :saw: They will be out sometime in March. The sway bar will be useable with these as well.

SCEXPLORER
01-22-2007, 08:12 PM
They are not ready for the Public yet but I do have a pair. :saw: They will be out sometime in March. The sway bar will be useable with these as well.


The 05+ connect to the spindle. I can't wait to get these. I've cut my fender as much as I could and even notched the body mount but I think i'll still rub a little at full compression. My skid plate is also bent up from the last Barstow trip. I'm trying to have the dopest Mid-Travel setup. Haha.

AllJumpStyle
01-22-2007, 08:18 PM
What's taking Allied so long?

yota4lyfe
01-22-2007, 08:41 PM
What's taking Allied so long?
They are waiting to see if they break on my truck. Also they are working on some serious LT for your type truck. 18" of Race Travel.

ryguy
01-22-2007, 09:45 PM
nice!! Allied has turned out some nice stuff. Saw them at DMZ with the spindles! They look nice! Have they broke yet Yota?

AZNPG
01-23-2007, 12:12 AM
The 05+ connect to the spindle. I can't wait to get these. I've cut my fender as much as I could and even notched the body mount but I think i'll still rub a little at full compression. My skid plate is also bent up from the last Barstow trip. I'm trying to have the dopest Mid-Travel setup. Haha.

time to get a new skid plate/bumper :D i remeber the video ahh scary shit with your truck man rubbing and bottoming out and hearing your skid plate hitting the ground

Gallium
01-23-2007, 02:28 AM
So to get the lower ground clearance..(after putting in the spindles) It was said to crank down the COs. Would this make for a better off-road feel? Or will it be too soft?

I got to be careful how much lift I put on my reg cab prerunner.

AllJumpStyle
01-23-2007, 01:39 PM
They are waiting to see if they break on my truck. Also they are working on some serious LT for your type truck. 18" of Race Travel.
Good to hear they're putting the effort out for my truck, but I'd rather give my money to Total Chaos.

Tweeter
01-23-2007, 02:40 PM
Good to hear they're putting the effort out for my truck, but I'd rather give my money to Total Chaos.

Word. :cool:

Bala de Plata
01-27-2007, 12:28 PM
My rig is the first 4runner to get AM's new lift spindles. I contacted them and asked if the were interested in working on the 4runner and here I am. I am gettin what I will call the 1.1 spindle. It is different from the first one in that it does have a tab for the sway bar. The production set will be a bit different but along the same lines according to AM (the sway bar attachment will be more intergrated into the spindle). I will trade in the set I am getting now for those when they are available in March. Now dont go hatin or anything, I just got lucky! I will tell you that these guys know what there doing and are going after products that other shops arent taking into consideration. So for that, I say well done sirs :) . Here are a few shots of the spindles going on my truck now. I will post more photos later.

Thanks alot Allied!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/DSC00132.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/DSC00133.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/DSC00141.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/DSC00151.jpg

Happysmiley
01-27-2007, 01:08 PM
I will tell you that these guys know what there doing and are going after products that other shops arent taking into consideration. So for that, I say well done sirs :) .
Thanks alot Allied!

They should make front leaf spring relocation hangers for 05+ tacomas to run deaver 62's spring under. A whole kit with front hangers, rear shackles, rear shackle brackets, u/bolt's, u/bolt plates, axle perches and brake lines would be super sweet.

marnes2986
01-27-2007, 02:52 PM
They should make front leaf spring relocation hangers for 05+ tacomas to run deaver 62's spring under. A whole kit with front hangers, rear shackles, rear shackle brackets, u/bolt's, u/bolt plates, axle perches and brake lines would be super sweet.

x2!!!!!

ALLIED???????????????????????????

yota4lyfe
01-27-2007, 04:36 PM
They should make front leaf spring relocation hangers for 05+ tacomas to run deaver 62's spring under. A whole kit with front hangers, rear shackles, rear shackle brackets, u/bolt's, u/bolt plates, axle perches and brake lines would be super sweet.
Give them your truck for R and D. Kinda hard to do it with out a truck. Those spindles look saweet on a 4 runner. I tried to get these on Rays truck but he woosed out.

SCEXPLORER
01-27-2007, 05:33 PM
Give them your truck for R and D. Kinda hard to do it with out a truck. Those spindles look saweet on a 4 runner. I tried to get these on Rays truck but he woosed out.

Hhaha. Hey, I didn't woose out just wanted to take my truck out to Barstow again and see if I still have major rubbage before I slap them on. Having 6" lift up front and 1.5" in the rear kinda held me back from jumping on them quickly.

Let's see some pics of that 4runner from the side view.

Bala de Plata
01-27-2007, 08:38 PM
More shots of the completed spindle install. Then we all piled in my rig and took it up a trail near Allied's shop. It handles so f***ing good on the trail!! Ive gained some valuable ground clearance and got back the shocks to what the should have been (not having them cranked to the limit). Thanks again guys, your friggin awesome. See ya in a couple weeks to see about the custom link arms in the rear!!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/spindleshot1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/heimjoint1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/truckshop.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/truckshop1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/truckshop2.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/goodshot.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/goodshot1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/goodshot3.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/goodshot4.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/tractor.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/rockpilesurfer/closeup.jpg

I really cant say enough about these guys having spent the whole day at they're shop. I am a huge fan and anyone that is interested in getting these spindles, you need to call them up and put an order in!! And if you know of something that would be sick that someone doesn't make, call them up. The owners have a new gen 2wd taco as their shop rig!! They have everything to make custom stuff. Check em out!!

Happysmiley
01-27-2007, 09:10 PM
More shots of the completed spindle install. Then we all piled in my rig and took it up a trail near Allied's shop. It handles so f***ing good on the trail!! Ive gained some valuable ground clearance and got back the shocks to what the should have been (not having them cranked to the limit). Thanks again guys, your friggin awesome. See ya in a couple weeks to see about the custom link arms in the rear!!

I really cant say enough about these guys having spent the whole day at they're shop. I am a huge fan and anyone that is interested in getting these spindles, you need to call them up and put an order in!! And if you know of something that would be sick that someone doesn't make, call them up. The owners have a new gen 2wd taco as their shop rig!! They have everything to make custom stuff. Check em out!!

Oh crap, looks super sweet. Nice pics too. Gonna have to order a set soon. They were really cool when I talked to em. Their stuff looks awesome, top notch. :kewl: Ride height looks just right with the TC uppers/donahoes. Can't wait till I get a ride in the bullet. I'll be down in a couple weeks.

phatman
01-27-2007, 11:11 PM
judging from the tractor i would say you went to skyline. ya? anyway, nice, but they need to make somthing for 4x's if at all possible.

yota4lyfe
01-27-2007, 11:35 PM
Looks like she is ready for some 35's. Lookin good man. No fair. Mine aren't powdercoated and all purdy like those.

ryguy
01-28-2007, 12:52 AM
that looks nice.. Wow jeff, someone is jealous? lol jk.. You know your truck has more travel and can take more abuse!

doublej
01-28-2007, 02:39 AM
what makes itr so hard that noone is doing spindles for 4wd? Or did I miss something?

06HAOLE
01-28-2007, 02:53 AM
what makes itr so hard that noone is doing spindles for 4wd? Or did I miss something?
Our CVs are in the way. I wish but oh well.

Bala de Plata
01-28-2007, 10:46 AM
Looks like she is ready for some 35's. Lookin good man. No fair. Mine aren't powdercoated and all purdy like those.

Yeah, but now that I'm broke again that may take a little while! Its worth eating microwave burritos for a month though. :D

And yes, we did go up to Skyline. It was a bit technical getting to that spot where the tractor was. Considering that crane that is over the entrance and the grade/ditch climbing up. Wish we had taken pics of that but it was friggin freezing up there and we didn't want to get out of the truck that much.

SCEXPLORER
01-28-2007, 01:19 PM
Looking good. 6" up front and 2" lift in the rear doesn't even look as bad as I thought it would. Let us know how it is when you're taking it through the whoops.

06HAOLE
01-28-2007, 09:19 PM
That 4 Runner is bad ass.

marnes2986
01-28-2007, 09:27 PM
The stance defintely looks better!

Looks like i seriously might get these for my B-day (turn 21 tomm biatch!) and hold off on the LT. Gotta pay to play hahaha

So march is the release date?

Did you crank down the coilovers??? HOw much thread is showing?

ryguy
01-28-2007, 09:32 PM
nice!! those looks great on your 4 runner. Marnes going for it?

marnes2986
01-28-2007, 09:35 PM
nice!! those looks great on your 4 runner. Marnes going for it?

ryan you got dibs remember???? :)

Bala de Plata
01-28-2007, 10:11 PM
So march is the release date?

Did you crank down the coilovers??? HOw much thread is showing?

Yes, March is the release date. But if you really want to make sure you get a set, call em up and preorder them. That way you make sure you get a set! :D

No crank, just uncrank. I was at 2-1/4" of thread showing and now Im at 1" of thread showing. I dont want it to be a crazy 6-1/2" of lift, its a better ride at about 4" in the front. Got plenty of droop and lots of clearance.

marnes2986
01-29-2007, 02:25 AM
Yes, March is the release date. But if you really want to make sure you get a set, call em up and preorder them. That way you make sure you get a set! :D

No crank, just uncrank. I was at 2-1/4" of thread showing and now Im at 1" of thread showing. I dont want it to be a crazy 6-1/2" of lift, its a better ride at about 4" in the front. Got plenty of droop to and lots of clearance.

Yes, sorry thats what i meant, uncrank.....haha i dont want any more preload! i probably have to call Dhoe since youre a 4runner....my thread right now is 1.75" and the disclaimer says not to go over 2" thread showing (obviously 4runner and tacoma c/o's are different)

im dyslexic (sp?) :p

Bala de Plata
01-29-2007, 07:27 AM
I dont think anything is different in how much thread is recomended. I cranked it to 2-1/4" cause at the time, that was how much I needed to level it out. Dont go tellin on me sh*t! :D

Happysmiley
01-29-2007, 08:56 AM
I dont think anything is different in how much thread is recomended. I cranked it to 2-1/4" cause at the time, that was how much I needed to level it out. Dont go tellin on me sh*t! :D

Hey sir, home again, they won't let me work cause this is technically my day off for working sat even though I was sick, sweet. You had to crank yours more cause of that V8 of yours. Don't think its a matter of thread showing as ride height. If u cranked a V6 same as yours it would be maxed out with no droop. But it would look soooo siiiiiiick! :doh:

ryguy
01-29-2007, 08:58 AM
man.. only if I bought 2wd lol!! Oh well, Im tired of redoing..

Happysmiley
01-29-2007, 09:06 AM
man.. only if I bought 2wd lol!! Oh well, Im tired of redoing..

Yeah but u can go wherever u want and not get stuck, wish i'd gotten 4wd. grass is always greener... right?

ryguy
01-29-2007, 10:05 AM
ya true that!! Im just having problems after I regeared.. :(

Bala de Plata
01-29-2007, 11:15 AM
ya true that!! Im just having problems after I regeared.. :(

What type of problems out of curiousity? Problems specific to 4wd? Im looking to put in 4.56 gears eventually and doing e-lockers at the same time.

ryguy
01-29-2007, 11:23 AM
well rear is good, Im trying to figure out why it wont go into 4wd.. I think a relay went bad or what not..

Bala de Plata
01-29-2007, 11:52 AM
I see, sorry to hear that man.

miguelitro
01-29-2007, 12:36 PM
well rear is good, Im trying to figure out why it wont go into 4wd.. I think a relay went bad or what not..

well if they had the diff out to regear it i would suspect that something was not hooked up right on reinstall...not a "bad" relay. and I wouldnt give up 4x4 for anything. The grass is green right here:D

ryguy
01-29-2007, 05:28 PM
ya I love my 4x4!! i want it back!

usaf_taco
01-29-2007, 08:07 PM
where can i get a set for my 2002 prerunner?

FF3778
01-29-2007, 09:08 PM
X2, When can I get a pair for my 01? How much are they set me back?

BRUUUP
01-30-2007, 09:09 AM
Give them a call...... http://www.alliedoffroad.com/

ZadraPR
02-25-2007, 10:03 PM
its getting closer to the release!

http://alliedoffroad.com/4_lift_spindle_2005_tacoma.htm

SinCityTaco
02-25-2007, 10:55 PM
Yeah I know that has been up for a while now. I wish they showed a pic of them on a stock tacoma though so as that you could get an idea of much clearance you will get with them. I called them and asked if I could clear 315/75/16 or 295/75/17 with them and they said they were "pretty sure" I could. Well for $950 they had better be real sure. I am going to wait for some other guinea pig to do it and post, lol.

ZadraPR
02-25-2007, 11:04 PM
is $950 the set price or is the the around about price?

SinCityTaco
02-26-2007, 12:20 AM
The supposed set price.

brock
02-26-2007, 01:44 AM
wish a 2" spindle was coming out....

06HAOLE
02-26-2007, 07:47 AM
:rolleyes: wish a 2" spindle was coming out....
X2.....I know that the 4" spindle wouldnt work for 4x4s but why woudnt a 2" spindle be possible???????

brock
02-26-2007, 05:04 PM
i just want somethign to level out my truck when i throw on the 10pack and dont want to crank up the coils.

06HAOLE
02-26-2007, 05:26 PM
Yeah you dont want to crank the coils too much. Well right now with my Donahoes at 3"+ it rides like crap. I want to lower them but will probably wait till I put the incoming UCAs on. I already cut the crap out of my fenderwells so they can take the 285s. :saw:

SinCityTaco
02-26-2007, 05:46 PM
Well somebody buy them already. I am sick of being first.

Happysmiley
02-26-2007, 06:11 PM
Well somebody buy them already. I am sick of being first.
I've ridden in Bala de Plata's 4 runner before and after spindles and its night and day since he put them on (both times with donahoes installed only with the spindles he took a lot of preload out).
I see how a 4" lift in front and a 1.5" rear pack might not be the best matchup. Even with no preload your gonna be sittin a little higher in the front. Yeah guess we'll have to wait for some brave soul to try it out for everyone.
To eliminate a bro-stance, there are 3" rear springs available from all-pro, and deaver can arc your springs to whatever arc you see fit. You could probably clear 35's with this setup with no problems, unless your a 4 runner then you'll have clearance issues in the rear wheel wells.. sorry Bala.. :mad:

ZadraPR
02-26-2007, 07:13 PM
bro stance doesn't bother me really, but I wonder what made them choose 4"... a 2" or 3" seems as if it would be more popular...

SinCityTaco
02-26-2007, 07:38 PM
That is kinda what I was thinking of doing. Spindles, DR COs, DR UCAs (maybe), Deavers, and DR rear shocks. Either that or bilstein 5100 all the way around. If you lifted the front 5 inches, 4 from spindle and 1 from COs then it should only sit about 1 inch higher in the front. If you didn't use COs then it should sit level since the rear is already 2.5 inches higher.
That maybe the best route for me to go, Spindles with Bilstein 5100 all the way around and deavers in the back. That way I will sit level and have a very smooth ride depending on how bilstein valves the 5100s.
I wonder if they make a 5100 that has a stem instead of an eye and if they make on long enough to keep up with the deavers. There are so many options it makes it tough.

AllJumpStyle
02-26-2007, 08:50 PM
bro stance doesn't bother me really, but I wonder what made them choose 4"... a 2" or 3" seems as if it would be more popular...
The lift spindle started with the TC uniball kit for 89-95 2wd I believe. They took a 4x4 spindle and mounted the lower uniball above the balljoint which gave them 4" of lift and managed to position the lower arm's uniball inline with the spindle. Basically, the most lift you could get without compromising the integrity of the spindle. This is why 4" is the standard, it provides optimum placement of the lower uniball to the spindle. Anything less would be a waste of time in my opinion. If you don't want the bro status get your springs re-arched.

And no, it would be stupid to try to make a 2" lift spindle. Any attempt to make a lift spindle and keep 4wd would be as bad as combining a long travel kit with a drop bracket lift.

SinCityTaco
02-26-2007, 09:09 PM
What is "bro" status. I am at a loss.

AllJumpStyle
02-26-2007, 09:16 PM
What is "bro" status. I am at a loss.
When the front is higher than the rear.

SinCityTaco
02-26-2007, 10:54 PM
Interesting, never knew that.

Dragon150043
02-26-2007, 11:23 PM
More shots of the completed spindle install. Then we all piled in my rig and took it up a trail near Allied's shop. It handles so f***ing good on the trail!! Ive gained some valuable ground clearance and got back the shocks to what the should have been (not having them cranked to the limit). Thanks again guys, your friggin awesome. See ya in a couple weeks to see about the custom link arms in the rear!!


I really cant say enough about these guys having spent the whole day at they're shop. I am a huge fan and anyone that is interested in getting these spindles, you need to call them up and put an order in!! And if you know of something that would be sick that someone doesn't make, call them up. The owners have a new gen 2wd taco as their shop rig!! They have everything to make custom stuff. Check em out!!

YAYYYYY FOR SKYLINE!!!!!!!!!!! Im up there all the time with my Taco. =]

brock
02-27-2007, 01:49 AM
with my hoes installed i sit perfectly level with my stock springs. deavers will add 1.5 of lift and i wouldnt mind being a ltitle higher in front soooo yaaa

marnes2986
02-27-2007, 01:55 AM
YAYYYYY FOR SKYLINE!!!!!!!!!!! Im up there all the time with my Taco. =]

I lived in Corona all my life, but i dont know where it is???? Legal to drive up there?

06HAOLE
02-27-2007, 05:11 AM
And no, it would be stupid to try to make a 2" lift spindle. Any attempt to make a lift spindle and keep 4wd would be as bad as combining a long travel kit with a drop bracket lift.
So...Would it still be an issue to have 4x4 with a 2" spindle like it is with a 4" spindle that it blocks the CVs? Im kinda lost on why its stupid? :confused: Is it not worth the price/ R&D or just not possible? Could you explain it cause I dont get it. Thanks

AllJumpStyle
02-27-2007, 10:27 AM
So...Would it still be an issue to have 4x4 with a 2" spindle like it is with a 4" spindle that it blocks the CVs? Im kinda lost on why its stupid? :confused: Is it not worth the price/ R&D or just not possible? Could you explain it cause I dont get it. Thanks
It will fuck up your cv's geometry, it is where it is for a reason. If you move it, you will get excessive plunge and angles. The only way to fix it would be to make a custom lower arm that DOESN'T retain stock mounting locations.

AllJumpStyle
02-27-2007, 10:31 AM
example of how to keep 4wd...

http://www.desertrides.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4876

SCEXPLORER
02-27-2007, 10:40 AM
example of how to keep 4wd...

http://www.desertrides.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4876

Just amazing. Makes me wish I was a fabricator instead of a boring engineer. :welder:

Dragon150043
02-27-2007, 03:23 PM
I lived in Corona all my life, but i dont know where it is???? Legal to drive up there?

Really? Dude, I love it. The view is amazing. And some decent trails. Taking it from Corona over to Gopher Canyon used to be my favorite run. As long as you are street legal, then you are legal up there. At least thats what the Ranger told me when I got my Key.

We should meet up and i'll show ya.

Happysmiley
02-27-2007, 05:06 PM
So...Would it still be an issue to have 4x4 with a 2" spindle like it is with a 4" spindle that it blocks the CVs? Im kinda lost on why its stupid? :confused: Is it not worth the price/ R&D or just not possible? Could you explain it cause I dont get it. Thanks
Only two ways to get lift on a 4 wheel drive. Crank your arms down through aftermarket coilovers/spacers, or on older trucks by adjusting torsion bars. This is true for stock length or long travel arms. Long travel will lift more if cranked cause the arms are longer which gives you greater ride height when they are run at more of a droop angle. If your long travel arms were set flat (parallel to the ground) ride height would be the same as stock length arms.
Or
you can drop the front diff and lower arms down and run a lift spindle (Drop bracket kit, pro-comp-rancho-fabtech......)

Oh yeah
body lift's and solid axle swap's, I don't even want to talk about these two. I feel dirty just thinking about them, gonna have to take a long shower now. I feel so cold, make it stop..

Bala de Plata
02-27-2007, 11:03 PM
body lift's and solid axle swap's, I don't even want to talk about these two. I feel dirty just thinking about them, gonna have to take a long shower now. I feel so cold, make it stop..
:rofl:


Offtopic, gears and air locker showed up today. Waiting on some backorederd torx stud bolts from Japan, FUCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!
:suicide:

06HAOLE
02-28-2007, 01:35 AM
It will fuck up your cv's geometry, it is where it is for a reason. If you move it, you will get excessive plunge and angles. The only way to fix it would be to make a custom lower arm that DOESN'T retain stock mounting locations.
Thanks man thats what I was looking for. You just had to break it down dumb style. I saw that custom 4x4 setup in your next post in a previous thread. Thanks again

brock
02-28-2007, 03:04 AM
Thanks man thats what I was looking for. You just had to break it down dumb style.

:rofl: :clap: :rofl2:

phatman
03-04-2007, 11:20 AM
I lived in Corona all my life, but i dont know where it is???? Legal to drive up there?
here is a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=skyline+corona&t=k&om=1&z=14&ll=33.849746,-117.599201&spn=0.03001,0.087032&iwloc=addr)
if you zoom in you'll see it go to dirt then goes off to the west into the hills.

Really? Dude, I love it. The view is amazing. And some decent trails. Taking it from Corona over to Gopher Canyon used to be my favorite run. As long as you are street legal, then you are legal up there. At least thats what the Ranger told me when I got my Key.

We should meet up and i'll show ya.
ya it is nice there. i'm up for it some time. the only time i've been up there was to get my buddy unstuck.

Dragon150043
03-04-2007, 01:58 PM
here is a map (http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=skyline+corona&t=k&om=1&z=14&ll=33.849746,-117.599201&spn=0.03001,0.087032&iwloc=addr)
if you zoom in you'll see it go to dirt then goes off to the west into the hills.


ya it is nice there. i'm up for it some time. the only time i've been up there was to get my buddy unstuck.

Yeah dude. We all should get together and run it. Beautiful views. You can even see Catalina on clear days.

Badseed
03-07-2007, 04:37 PM
I just wanted to chim in on Allied Motor sports AKA AM suspensions.

These guys are great and are currently using my truck to develop a long travle kit for the 5 lug Taco. I can't wait these guys know there stuff and if you have an idea give them a call!!!

I will post vid and pics of the truck when the final arms are closer to getting finished.

AM suspensions:

www.amsuspensions.com

951.736.6571

mrbigbri
04-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Yeah dude. We all should get together and run it. Beautiful views. You can even see Catalina on clear days.

Let me know if you guys run up Skyline. I was up there on Saturday... not too far up though (maybe half-way) and would like to go up further.

Brian

marnes2986
04-16-2007, 02:13 PM
tell me when you go! ive never been to skyline and ive lived in corona all my life hahaha

is it all the way up lincoln??? or foothill???? :D

miguelitro
04-16-2007, 02:18 PM
What is "bro" status. I am at a loss.

isnt that technically and historically refered to as a cali lift?

Tweeter
04-16-2007, 02:21 PM
I prefer "sick lifted"

any updates on these spindles fellas?

miguelitro
04-16-2007, 02:22 PM
Yeah dude. We all should get together and run it. Beautiful views. You can even see Catalina on clear days.

does it connect through to the west side of those mnts??? loks like a cool trail!

Mike

Dragon150043
04-16-2007, 03:27 PM
Let me know if you guys run up Skyline. I was up there on Saturday... not too far up though (maybe half-way) and would like to go up further.

Brian

tell me when you go! ive never been to skyline and ive lived in corona all my life hahaha

is it all the way up lincoln??? or foothill???? :D

When i get my truck back this weekend I will be going up. I will keep both of you informed! I'll be the official Skyline dude. lol

ryguy
04-16-2007, 03:27 PM
just be careful! THere was a truck that went off the side and that is a far ways down.. lol that means, dont go fast

Marnes here it is:
Look up Mabey canyon rd .. Its basically off ontario. They made it really hard to get to cause of new housing district that is going up. They now have a nice new bridge that will lead you there "Border Ave". anyways.. Enjoy!!

BTW if you take it all the way there, you end up at santago canyon dr sorta near Irvine lake. Anyways..

Dragon150043
04-16-2007, 03:33 PM
actually its a lot easier now. It has its own driveway. lol

You take Foothill all the way west and just after you cross the bridge on the left side of the street, there is a little road. You take that and bam. You are on skyline.

And I only go up the hill about 30. No worries. =]

ryguy
04-16-2007, 04:43 PM
haha thanks.. lol I usually go the other route that the big trucks that carried dirt etc.. went up.

SCEXPLORER
04-16-2007, 05:42 PM
I was up there yesterday with a 4wd 4runner and range rover. It was really foggy. Other than the fun offroad offshoots, it's pretty much just a dirt road. With my 2ws prerruner I was able to conquer the same offroad trails off the main roads while my buddies had to use 4wd. You'd be surprised how tires and clearance helps when you have to go a little faster cus you're only 2wd. We took it from corona all the way to the 15s. It took us about 3 hours.

yota4lyfe
04-16-2007, 06:24 PM
any updates on these spindles fellas?
They are released and people are buyin them up. Mine seem to be just fine too.

pgthe1
04-16-2007, 06:26 PM
They are released and people are buyin them up. Mine seem to be just fine too.

Only because you never use you're truck :xcrazy: lol... Hey cave boy...swing by and pick up the shiznit the wife left for you.

Dragon150043
04-16-2007, 07:13 PM
I was up there yesterday with a 4wd 4runner and range rover. It was really foggy. Other than the fun offroad offshoots, it's pretty much just a dirt road. With my 2ws prerruner I was able to conquer the same offroad trails off the main roads while my buddies had to use 4wd. You'd be surprised how tires and clearance helps when you have to go a little faster cus you're only 2wd. We took it from corona all the way to the 15s. It took us about 3 hours.

Most of it is the view. Thats what so amazing. There are some beefy 4x4 trails. I'll have to show you all those. =] They are hidden.

yota4lyfe
04-16-2007, 07:30 PM
Only because you never use you're truck :xcrazy: lol... Hey cave boy...swing by and pick up the shiznit the wife left for you.

Don't be a hater! I use my truck as much as you.:eek: LOL anywayz I'll roll by.

Dragon150043
04-20-2007, 01:00 AM
Im going up skyline on saturday. Whos down?

yota4lyfe
04-27-2007, 01:07 AM
So I was at Allied tonight. I only saw 2 pairs left on their first run of spindles. Looks like people are buying them up.

krnnerdboy
04-27-2007, 09:11 AM
I'm gonna run down in a couple hours to get mine.

SinCityTaco
04-27-2007, 09:27 AM
I love my set, the fab work is great.

ryguy
04-27-2007, 09:28 AM
hurry.. they wont last long..

krnnerdboy
04-27-2007, 10:04 AM
I love my set, the fab work is great.

hey did you ever get the rears situated, in terms of level stance? I'm going to keep my 5100 adjustables allround but lower them to stock height and add a aal (always got a load). can't wait to take the preload off the front! also are the brake lines an extension or replacement for a $100....btw what time do they open!

SCEXPLORER
04-27-2007, 02:24 PM
Let's see some pictures! I'm bored of seeing Yota's. :D

krnnerdboy
04-27-2007, 05:27 PM
picked them up this morning, but won't be installing untill sat night. Great group of knowledgable people!

any install tips?....I never swapped a spindle before...are there any special tools needed? other than brake bleeders and tie rod pullers?

SinCityTaco
04-27-2007, 06:38 PM
I just put donahoes on with the spindles and got waaaaay too much lift. I lowered the collar on the passenger side almost all the way up to the top cap and the driver side is a few turns away to compensate for the lean. I just put them on today so they need to settle in. I am not going to adjust again until next week when I go to to get my Dakars put on and have my truck aligned. I should sit dead level though when I get the Dakars which lift the shit out of the rear.

yota4lyfe
04-27-2007, 10:48 PM
What size tires you gonna run? I really like that set up. DHOeS and Spindles. I want to see yer new ride man. Post up some pics.

brock
04-28-2007, 01:51 AM
any 2" spindles yet? lol.

SinCityTaco
04-28-2007, 02:15 PM
Well since I sagged them all the way down, just about, I have about 1/4 inch of thread showing. I netted about 4.75 total inches of lift. I am going to run 295/75/16 which is approx 1/2 inch taller than than most 285s. I will definately post pics when I am done. I don't have my wheels tires on yets because am still waiting for my Dakar and alignment.

marnes2986
04-29-2007, 11:18 PM
Well since I sagged them all the way down, just about, I have about 1/4 inch of thread showing. I netted about 4.75 total inches of lift. I am going to run 295/75/16 which is approx 1/2 inch taller than than most 285s. I will definately post pics when I am done. I don't have my wheels tires on yets because am still waiting for my Dakar and alignment.


haha dude! i dont care about how much thread youre showing, just tell us how the ride feels with the coil unloaded!!! haha Have you tested them out yet etc.

SinCityTaco
04-29-2007, 11:22 PM
they absord all terrain.
+

Bmiller7
04-30-2007, 11:29 AM
All my fun stuff should be here today or tomorrow..

Hoes (all the way around )..AM 4" spindle..Total Chaos UCA..

I'll post pics after I get it all installed this week..

Then I'll let ya'll know how they feel..

SinCityTaco
04-30-2007, 12:47 PM
there no different feeling with these spindles compared to stock, they are just spindles. They lift the front by droping the wheel 4 inches. No changes in driving dynamics what so ever. AM makes a great product. The donahoes sagged out ride great, way better than having them cranked to 2 inches or more. thye ride soft but absorb all without being jarring. I can' wait to get my tires to see how much lower I can set them if at all.

Bmiller7
04-30-2007, 01:41 PM
What about some more pics?

Or sent some via e-mail..btm@pinnaclex2.com

You sent me one like last week..but I want to see more..

How much did you pay in labor to have them installed?

SinCityTaco
04-30-2007, 02:03 PM
couple hundred bucks to install them. I will take more pics for ya when I get some time. Right now I am fucking pissed because I had a big fucking dent in my bed and I had it fixed by a dent repair guy and now it seems as though the metal is weaker because there is a dent there again. The new dent is much smaller but I can tell the metal is fatigued. I didnt want to have to get a new bed side and have it repainted, but I think I am going to have to. Either that or live with the dent which is driving me crazy.

Bmiller7
04-30-2007, 02:26 PM
couple hundred bucks to install them. I will take more pics for ya when I get some time. Right now I am fucking pissed because I had a big fucking dent in my bed and I had it fixed by a dent repair guy and now it seems as though the metal is weaker because there is a dent there again. The new dent is much smaller but I can tell the metal is fatigued. I didnt want to have to get a new bed side and have it repainted, but I think I am going to have to. Either that or live with the dent which is driving me crazy.

Dang man..sorry to hear that..

You could always just get fiberglass!!

ryguy
04-30-2007, 03:20 PM
is it white?? I have some white bed sides if you want..

SinCityTaco
04-30-2007, 03:24 PM
Yes it is white. I am assuming you have OEM bedsides, not glass. PM me and we can talk price and shipping.

truckhigh
05-08-2007, 03:01 AM
so what is every1 paying for their spindles. I already tried to email them and there was no response. I think i might stop by their shop and see what it is. But, it would be nice to know befor hand.

Bmiller7
05-08-2007, 10:19 AM
so what is every1 paying for their spindles. I already tried to email them and there was no response. I think i might stop by their shop and see what it is. But, it would be nice to know befor hand.

Oh hell na!! You just gotta go balls out man..just throw down the 1-G and get that hot nasty goodness on your taco!!

I was quoted $1050-spindle and front brake lines..

I think it's a great deal to get 4" of pure ground clearance..plus you can make fun of all the 4x4 guys for wishing they were pre-runner status!!

marnes2986
05-08-2007, 01:53 PM
so what is every1 paying for their spindles. I already tried to email them and there was no response. I think i might stop by their shop and see what it is. But, it would be nice to know befor hand.

Allied is prett busy, they have a lot of projects right now. Just stop by the shop and talk to them.

krnnerdboy
05-08-2007, 02:12 PM
i'll post some pics up tonight on my install!!