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supahonkey
12-08-2004, 11:24 PM
Hmm, I believe I got the whole brake problem almost sorted out. I still have a small vacuum leak, but I'll look into that tomorrow. This evening I went to pull my truck out of the shop for another test run after nearly completing my SAS, and as I began to drive, the rear drive shaft came apart. The splined end came out of the yoke. Of the many posts that I've read, I haven't seen anyone replacing their rear drive shaft. I assume that the drive shaft came apart because I gave it some gas, causing bad axle wrap, disconnecting hte drive shaft. When I look at the drive shaft, the splined part only goes into the yoke about 3/4". I have Pro Comp 3.5" lift blocks along with 63" chevy rears. anyone else had this problem? Currently, my truck is sitting 1"-2" higher in the rear than the front. I could cut 1" off of the lift block, but after doing the math, I would only gain around 1/2 of drive shaft. THIS SUCKS! anyway, tell me waht you think.

brenton

BOOBANELLI21
12-08-2004, 11:28 PM
Hmm, I believe I got the whole brake problem almost sorted out. I still have a small vacuum leak, but I'll look into that tomorrow. This evening I went to pull my truck out of the shop for another test run after nearly completing my SAS, and as I began to drive, the rear drive shaft came apart. The splined end came out of the yoke. Of the many posts that I've read, I haven't seen anyone replacing their rear drive shaft. I assume that the drive shaft came apart because I gave it some gas, causing bad axle wrap, disconnecting hte drive shaft. When I look at the drive shaft, the splined part only goes into the yoke about 3/4". I have Pro Comp 3.5" lift blocks along with 63" chevy rears. anyone else had this problem? Currently, my truck is sitting 1"-2" higher in the rear than the front. I could cut 1" off of the lift block, but after doing the math, I would only gain around 1/2 of drive shaft. THIS SUCKS! anyway, tell me waht you think.

brenton

Ask Yunny about that :D :D :D

BK005
12-09-2004, 12:16 AM
I drove thru the ditch in my yard and popped mine out, right after I was done. New shaft time..

YUNADERIS
12-09-2004, 01:02 AM
your math is wrong

cutting the block wont help your slip half an inch

what you did was move your axle when you did your swap....probably a good idea to drill new holes for your rear leaf spring hangars and move that axle forward


or you can ditch the block all together and run a longer shackle or if you want to get real creative...you can do a drop hangar for the rear shackle and eliminate the blocks all together

YUNADERIS
12-09-2004, 01:02 AM
Ask Yunny about that :D :D :D
hey bob,,..whats going on?


come up and visit this weekend..... we can weld and drill and chop and whatever :cool:

grumpy
12-09-2004, 09:02 AM
Hmm, I believe I got the whole brake problem almost sorted out. I still have a small vacuum leak, but I'll look into that tomorrow. This evening I went to pull my truck out of the shop for another test run after nearly completing my SAS, and as I began to drive, the rear drive shaft came apart. The splined end came out of the yoke. Of the many posts that I've read, I haven't seen anyone replacing their rear drive shaft. I assume that the drive shaft came apart because I gave it some gas, causing bad axle wrap, disconnecting hte drive shaft. When I look at the drive shaft, the splined part only goes into the yoke about 3/4". I have Pro Comp 3.5" lift blocks along with 63" chevy rears. anyone else had this problem? Currently, my truck is sitting 1"-2" higher in the rear than the front. I could cut 1" off of the lift block, but after doing the math, I would only gain around 1/2 of drive shaft. THIS SUCKS! anyway, tell me waht you think.

brenton
I'd say you moved the axle back to far when doing the chevies. I had to much spline showing after my SAS too. moved the rear axle back too far-redid the mount and pulled the blocks (3") now no splines show at all.

supahonkey
12-09-2004, 09:10 AM
I might do the rear shackle hangar because I really hate blocks so much, and I would do damn near anything to get rid of those mofos. So the object in the rear is to have no splines showing? if that's the case, then I'm about 3 inches away!

grumpy
12-09-2004, 09:19 AM
I might do the rear shackle hangar because I really hate blocks so much, and I would do damn near anything to get rid of those mofos. So the object in the rear is to have no splines showing? if that's the case, then I'm about 3 inches away!
you had to redo the rear spring frnt leaf mount, right? I'd look at that as the cause of problems. Better to move front mount then shackle mount. IF axle too far rearward, when compressing it'll move back even farther. Compounding the issue.
anohter chevy leaf swap done here and they moved the axle back too far also, and he too has splines showing.

supahonkey
12-09-2004, 11:17 AM
yes, I did have to redo the rear spring hangars, but I did it 7.5" forward of the original mount, as everyone has told me to do. I guess i'll drill new holes in the blocks to move the axle forward. I was thinking that I might move it around 1" to 1.5" forward, do you think this is enough, or should I move it forward even more? Thanks.

Brenton

grumpy
12-09-2004, 01:38 PM
yes, I did have to redo the rear spring hangars, but I did it 7.5" forward of the original mount, as everyone has told me to do. I guess i'll drill new holes in the blocks to move the axle forward. I was thinking that I might move it around 1" to 1.5" forward, do you think this is enough, or should I move it forward even more? Thanks.

Brenton
not usre if drilling new holes in blocks is a good idea.

I'm not usre how much you should move it. I'd go for wheel placement in the wheel well. I'd also consider moving it forward maybe 1/4-1/2". it'll move backwards on compression. On mine W 35" tires I'd rub. I'm currently installing the bushwacker cutouts. I hope this cures it.

jsut found out my front shackles are too far back. Causing to bend back to frame and then the leafs are compressing against it.

DesertTRD
12-09-2004, 01:47 PM
You didnt move your spring hangers far enough forward when you did your leaf spring swap, you get more drive shaft extention at full bump than you do when its drooped out.. I can explain it in more detail if you want.

I did 62's on my truck and i noticed how at full droop the drive shaft actually got shorter not longer.

YUNADERIS
12-09-2004, 02:46 PM
damn Grumpy..... you said what i said ...so you saying what i said is a good thing as we say the same thing so saying the thing together is the best thing

grumpy
12-09-2004, 02:58 PM
damn Grumpy..... you said what i said ...so you saying what i said is a good thing as we say the same thing so saying the thing together is the best thing
now there you go trying to cnfuse me again.

YUNADERIS
12-09-2004, 03:09 PM
no, its all really simple..you just agree with what i say and then its all good...

DesertTRD
12-09-2004, 03:15 PM
yes, I did have to redo the rear spring hangars, but I did it 7.5" forward of the original mount, as everyone has told me to do. I guess i'll drill new holes in the blocks to move the axle forward. I was thinking that I might move it around 1" to 1.5" forward, do you think this is enough, or should I move it forward even more? Thanks.

Brenton First off asking ppl how to setup your truck is a bad idea, you should not be going off what people say here, you should have been cycling your suspension with it all tacked together, this will tell you if its going to work of fail, not going off someone elses measuring tape over the internet, the 7.5 or so was a rough estimate of what works, doesnt mean it works with all vehicles, chock it up as a learning experience and no go cycle your shit and find out whats wrong, which is what you should have done in the first place.

Just an FYI if you had done what im saying above the first time, you should have seen it was going to fall out before you ever got close to finishing it. now its going to be a bitch to fix.

grumpy
12-09-2004, 03:29 PM
I knew it. you think your always right.

DesertTRD
12-09-2004, 03:33 PM
yes, I did have to redo the rear spring hangars, but I did it 7.5" forward of the original mount, as everyone has told me to do. I guess i'll drill new holes in the blocks to move the axle forward. I was thinking that I might move it around 1" to 1.5" forward, do you think this is enough, or should I move it forward even more? Thanks.

Brenton
I wrote this just for you!

http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15261&postcount=1

YUNADERIS
12-09-2004, 03:56 PM
no, you confirmed i was right :)

BigBadBob0
12-09-2004, 06:19 PM
Can't really cycle the suspension with it tacked up. But you can at least set it down off of the jackstands to get an idea of where it will be on flat ground. With 3" showing that would have been a big warning sign.

Probably worth noting that the amount you move your axle (7.5" mentioned above) will be different for 97 and earlier since they had shorter packs.

supahonkey
12-10-2004, 02:09 AM
hmmm, well, I temporarily solved that problem by cutting 1.5" from the lift blocks, which actually worked out nicely; the truck is now level. In a few weeks (once my bank account has time to recover from the SAS) I will buy the new front driveshaft along with a new rear shaft while I'm at it.

YUNADERIS
12-10-2004, 02:52 AM
why a new rear shaft?

grumpy
12-10-2004, 08:01 AM
hmmm, well, I temporarily solved that problem by cutting 1.5" from the lift blocks, which actually worked out nicely; the truck is now level. In a few weeks (once my bank account has time to recover from the SAS) I will buy the new front driveshaft along with a new rear shaft while I'm at it.
sounds like its coming along.
IMO if you need a different length rear driveshaft, you need to be looking at whats causing it. Unless you truely lifted the truck that high.

ptrautne
12-10-2004, 09:09 AM
sounds like its coming along.
IMO if you need a different length rear driveshaft, you need to be looking at whats causing it. Unless you truely lifted the truck that high.
The rear of my truck is at ~ 6 1/2-7" of lift and the splines are showing so I would say that it came out because of too much lift.

YUNADERIS
12-10-2004, 01:05 PM
for all the guys that did the chebby spring swap and now have too much spline showing...you moved the axle back too much...you need to redrill the holes in your front mounts and move them forward a bit

ptrautne
12-10-2004, 03:15 PM
for all the guys that did the chebby spring swap and now have too much spline showing...you moved the axle back too much...you need to redrill the holes in your front mounts and move them forward a bit

When I stuff my tire, it is centered in the fender so if I move it forward it will hit the fender under flex

DesertTRD
12-10-2004, 04:07 PM
When I stuff my tire, it is centered in the fender so if I move it forward it will hit the fender under flex
thats how it should be is at full stuff centered at regular ride height forward more.

YUNADERIS
12-10-2004, 04:46 PM
hehe.....you da man.....cut your ifs off already :)

ptrautne
12-10-2004, 06:21 PM
hehe.....you da man.....cut your ifs off already :)

I got an 88 to do an SAS on. :)

BOOBANELLI21
12-10-2004, 07:47 PM
hey bob,,..whats going on?


come up and visit this weekend..... we can weld and drill and chop and whatever :cool:

Whats up man? I totally was going to cruise over this weekend, its my 3 day :) But Brian decided to get married all of a sudden so I've got to be at his wedding on Sat. I might get crazy and shoot up Sunday or something....lemme talk to the boss
:D

joe_mauma
12-10-2004, 07:55 PM
I recently placed 63" chevy's on my truck, don't have any spline showing at all. Moved the front spring hanger forward exactly 7.5".

YUNADERIS
12-10-2004, 07:57 PM
Whats up man? I totally was going to cruise over this weekend, its my 3 day :) But Brian decided to get married all of a sudden so I've got to be at his wedding on Sat. I might get crazy and shoot up Sunday or something....lemme talk to the boss
:D
are you serious? wow.....thats awesome to hear..tell him congrats for me...

you are more than welcome to come on down sunday.....kellie's mom is here this weekend so any distraction i get away from here would be awesome...i got a dedicated breaker now for all my fabbing so i am set .... give me a call and let me know whats up

ptrautne
12-10-2004, 08:12 PM
I recently placed 63" chevy's on my truck, don't have any spline showing at all. Moved the front spring hanger forward exactly 7.5".

I even moved mine forward 8". Dont you have marlin crawlers dual case?

joe_mauma
12-10-2004, 09:49 PM
Dont you have marlin crawlers dual case?

Yeah, but it's still sitting in the house. Every free weekend I end up going wheeling and can't find time to install it... It's definitely going in at the first of the year!

zszac111
12-12-2004, 09:35 AM
my rear stuffs just perfect, thats why tacking then maxing it out is important fuck stick :D well i my fenders are cut so i guess i dont count....


for all the guys that did the chebby spring swap and now have too much spline showing...you moved the axle back too much...you need to redrill the holes in your front mounts and move them forward a bit

YUNADERIS
12-12-2004, 02:41 PM
my rear stuffs just perfect, thats why tacking then maxing it out is important fuck stick :D well i my fenders are cut so i guess i dont count....
what? ....................................

zszac111
12-12-2004, 07:01 PM
what? ....................................


hell i dont know, it was early this morning, :flipoff2: he we got some new smilies.

STOMPER
12-12-2004, 09:57 PM
I guess ya'll might know this guy but what year is the truck? That would make a big diffrence on how far he should have moved the front hangers.

YUNADERIS
12-12-2004, 10:13 PM
not sure what year he has...but below is the general rule of thumb on inches forward when doing a chebby spring swap on a tacoma


95.5-97 move the hangars 10-11 inches forward...

98-04 ? move the axle v7-8 inches forward