: Audiophile Thread


SuperPoser
02-27-2007, 07:07 AM
Howdy guys,
Post up about your HT, 2ch, and Mobile Audio Systems here!!!

HoT_DoGgIN
02-27-2007, 09:03 AM
Well... I have a sony xplod head unit that came with the truck when I bought it, a set of Alpine type S 6.5" 3 way roundies in the back, and hopefully sometime in the next year i'm going to try putting a sub into the tool cubby, upgrading to another head unit with iPod support, a set of components for the front with the 4-runner tweeter pod mod, and then a nice amp to round it all off... :D

99TanTaco
02-27-2007, 09:59 AM
every time I crank up my stereo in my truck for more than a few seconds (older Kenwood cd player and Kenwood amp) I'll suddenly lose all sound. the display will still stay on but no noise. If I turn it off and on it will work fine again till next time I crank it up. this just started recently and I haven't made any changes to my system in quite a while. Or hitting the reset button on the face also gets it going again but then I have to reset all the presets if I do it that way

This is kinda important as I need to be able to drown out all the funny noises my truck makes

Also all my wiring should be more than sufficient as my truck was wired for a significantly larger amp which I need to get repaired one of these days

I can get model#s for you later but none of my stuff is high dollar except the amp that is broken sitting at home

RedRunnertc
02-27-2007, 02:08 PM
HT:
Mitsubishi HD 53" widescreen
B&K REF20+ (Upgraded from a Ref 10) Preamp/Decoder
AudioQuest Ruby interconnects
B&K AV5000 5 channel amp
Dish Network HD DVR
Mitsubishi progressive scan DVD
Mitsubishi VCR
Paradigm Studio 20 (Front Left/Right)
Paradigm Studio CC (Center)
Paradigm Bipole surrounds
Paradigm Servo 15 sub

The 4Runner has an Alpine head unit with iPod interface and cheapo speakers
The Impala has a JVC head unit & 12 disc changer feeding into a JLAudio 5 channel amp to drive Illusion Audio separates (6.5" in the front, 8" in the back)

The old truck had TWO systems in it:
(SoundQ)
JLAudio 6.5" coaxials in custom kickpanels
JLAudio 8W6 in the dash
Clarion 9255 (dual 24 bit Burr-Brown D/A)
Clarion 6 disc changer
AudioControl PreEQ
AudioControl EQT (x2)
USAmps 5 channel amp

(SPL)
Clarion 12 disc changer
USAmps VLX50+ (x4 - 1800W each)
JLAudio12W0 (x8)

RedRunnertc
02-27-2007, 02:11 PM
every time I crank up my stereo in my truck for more than a few seconds (older Kenwood cd player and Kenwood amp) I'll suddenly lose all sound. the display will still stay on but no noise. If I turn it off and on it will work fine again till next time I crank it up. this just started recently and I haven't made any changes to my system in quite a while. Or hitting the reset button on the face also gets it going again but then I have to reset all the presets if I do it that way

Sounds like a bad ground is causing the amp to get hot and shut off and protect itself. All grounds need to go to a spot on the FRAME that's been sanded down to clean metal. Make sure all the attachments are still good - you DO induce some .... ummmmm.... vibration shall we say .... with the way you use your truck.

99TanTaco
02-27-2007, 02:32 PM
hmm I was kinda worried it would be amp related, hopefully I can get seat bolts out without breaking any, last time I took em out I had quite a struggle

maybe I'll get my good amp fixed (it's got a couple stripped terminals) and slap it back in to make it worth all the effort

at any rate it'll prob be a while before I get motivated enough to check it out

99TanTaco
02-27-2007, 02:47 PM
still at work so I don't have model #s in front of me, but heres a basic list, I can get more specific once I get home if neccessary

my old truck 93 Ranger ext Cab
Kenwood AM/FM Cassette in dash w changer controlls
Kenwood 10 disc Changer
Alpine EQ
Crossover (can't remember brand)
Alpine door speakers and tweeters
Alpine 3522 powering door speakers and tweeters
(2) Kicker 10" subs
(2) Alpine 3548s one bridged for each sub

current truck
Kenwood AM/FM Cd player in dash w changer controlls
Kenwood 6 disc changer
XM
polk door speakers
pioneer 10" sub in MTX enclosure (I think its a thunderform?, it looks factory)
Kenwood 4 channel amp, front running doors, back bridged to run sub

Sitting at home broken
Soundstream 4 channel amp

SuperPoser
02-27-2007, 02:57 PM
(SPL)
Clarion 12 disc changer
USAmps VLX50+ (x4 - 1800W each)
JLAudio12W0 (x8)
8 12s?!
cool man!

SuperPoser
02-27-2007, 02:59 PM
terry,
I am guessin your kenwood cdplayer used the preouts to the amp, and all speakers driven off the amp?
if this is the case, I agree with troy... sounds like the amp is kicking off for some reason...
if you do have a good ground... take the amp out of your truck, and blow the insides out with compressed air... I had a lot of buildup in one of my amps... it kept doing this, then eventually blew... it was then I finally took it out, and found it full of dust & dirt...

99TanTaco
02-27-2007, 03:03 PM
yes I'm using F&R preamp outputs

How would dirt possibly get im my truck? :rolleyes: :D

OFRD_GRL
02-27-2007, 03:08 PM
emmmmm
???

SuperPoser
02-27-2007, 03:16 PM
Mobile Audio:
1981 Dodge PowerRAM:
Pioneer CD Player
Optimus 4" mids, & 0.75" tweeters running off the Pioneer Head Unit...
Rockford Fosgate 10" Audiophile Subs running of a Prestiege 400Watt Amp...
(sounded very nice, everything was stolen)

1991 Sunbird:
Sony CD Player (top Sony unit in 1998)
fronts: 1997 Rockford Fosgate Punch 125.2, RF 3.5" Audiophile mids, 1" Alpine Tweeter, 2-way RF Audiophile Crossover,
Rears: 1997 RF Punch 225.2, 1998 Alpine 2-way 6x9s,
Subs: 1997 RF Punch Power 500.2, 1996 Punch Power 12s (qty2)
this was a very nice custom install by myself and several friends... and sounded very very awsome! (after several cans of expanding spray spooge/foam for the body)

2002 Taco: ya... I'm still working on this one... but right now I have a pos kenwood cdplayer, the 500.2 running a pos mtx thunderform taco box, and the 225.2 running a pair of jl audio 5x7 components which are very bright off axis, but sound good on axis (damn speakers in the door!)

SuperPoser
02-27-2007, 03:17 PM
yes I'm using F&R preamp outputs

How would dirt possibly get im my truck? :rolleyes: :D
seriously, that can't be the problem! :rofl:

OFRD_GRL
02-27-2007, 03:19 PM
stock FJ system with subwoofer


4runner - absolutely none whatsoever :(

bradleyem
02-27-2007, 03:40 PM
Pioneer DEH-P8600MP head unit
MTX Thunder 4200X Amp
MTX Thunder 8.6 component speakers in front
2- MTX Thunder 5500 8" subwoofers in custom sealed enclosures in the walls

I'd like to add another 2 channel amp for the subs and another component set for the rear. It sux having the subs and components powered from the same 4 channel amp, because when you change the volume, it never seems balanced between the subs and components. I just can't find the room for another set of components in the back :(

Here are some pics:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h154/bradleyem/Stereo%20System/PANA0006.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h154/bradleyem/Stereo%20System/PANA0003.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h154/bradleyem/Stereo%20System/FrontSpeakers02-12-2005.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h154/bradleyem/Stereo%20System/Sub.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h154/bradleyem/Stereo%20System/PANA0009.jpg

SuperPoser
02-27-2007, 03:45 PM
I love the 8's in the back!
darn you guys with extra cabs!!!!

99TanTaco
02-27-2007, 04:17 PM
apparently I'm senile :o my current amp is a eclipse 3640 not a kenwood, the one that I'm to lazy/cheap to have fixed is a soundstream rubicon 404 (freakin huge, just barely fits under the seat)

ugly's ok
02-27-2007, 04:48 PM
every time I crank up my stereo in my truck for more than a few seconds (older Kenwood cd player and Kenwood amp) I'll suddenly lose all sound. the display will still stay on but no noise. If I turn it off and on it will work fine again till next time I crank it up. this just started recently and I haven't made any changes to my system in quite a while. Or hitting the reset button on the face also gets it going again but then I have to reset all the presets if I do it that way

This is kinda important as I need to be able to drown out all the funny noises my truck makes

Also all my wiring should be more than sufficient as my truck was wired for a significantly larger amp which I need to get repaired one of these days

I can get model#s for you later but none of my stuff is high dollar except the amp that is broken sitting at homeYou mite have a bad voice coil. that would trip the protection serc in the radio.

RedRunnertc
02-27-2007, 06:43 PM
8 12s?!cool man!

8-12" subs + 7200W + ported box = 151.2 dB! :eek:

SuperPoser
02-27-2007, 09:33 PM
individual amp/sub?
thats pretty sweet dude!

RedRunnertc
02-27-2007, 09:54 PM
No - 2 subs per amp. Amps were built special to make max power at the impedance of those speakers in that box. Yes, really - I was WAAAAY too much into that stuff, but that's what it takes to place at the World Finals I guess...

SuperPoser
02-28-2007, 08:25 PM
ok my bedroom system (2ch)
I have my computer and an old Pioneer CD Changer running into a Denon DA-500 DAC via toslink (or whatever the fiber is called)...
a B&K PT3 series 2 preamp (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/b-and-k-components/preamplifiers/PRD_118186_1591crx.aspx)
an Anthem PVA 2 amp (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/anthem/amplifiers/PRD_339624_1583crx.aspx)
and Von Schweikert VR-1 bookshielfs... (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/von-schweikert-research/floorstanding-speakers/PRD_143684_1594crx.aspx)

I auditioned the VR-1's a wile ago with classic music and they sounded great! when I saw the VS website had B-Stock for 1/2 price, I decided to pick up a pair...
well they do sound great with classic on my system, but just dont' seem to have it for rock... just my opinion, and I am sure repositioning and having stands rather than sitting them on a dresser would help, but oh well...

SuperPoser
02-28-2007, 08:58 PM
HT system (hehe)

Marantz DV6500 (SACD & DVD-A Player) (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/marantz/dvd-players/PRD_331072_1587crx.aspx)
Mitsubishi HS-U445 (VCR & Cable) (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/mitsubishi/vcrs/PRD_127977_1588crx.aspx)
Mitisubishi DD-6040 (DVD player) (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/mitsubishi/dvd-players/PRD_285691_1587crx.aspx)
Anthem AVM 50 (preamp/processor)(link is a similar avm30) (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/anthem/a-v-preamplifier/PRD_332357_2719crx.aspx)
Anthem PVA 7 (7ch amp) (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/anthem/amplifiers/PRD_339469_1583crx.aspx)
Focal JMLab Chorus S 716 (qty4, Fronts and Surrounds) (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/jmlab/floorstanding-speakers/PRD_323818_1594crx.aspx)
Focal JMLab Chorus S CC700 (qty1, Center) (similar in link only 6.5"speakers) (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/jmlab/center-channels/PRD_326438_2743crx.aspx)
Focal JMLab Chrous S 706 (qty2, Rears) (http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/jmlab/bookshelf-speakers/PRD_335889_4290crx.aspx)
GE 31" Tube TV (using S-VID :rofl: )

I plan in the near future:
1080P LCD Monitor (>40" but depends on prices)
BluRay / HD-DVD combo player (when the bugs are worked out)
also looking at the Oppo DV-981HD upconverting dvd player (http://www.oppodigital.com/dv981hd/dv981hd_index.html)

SuperPoser
03-01-2007, 08:00 PM
thats right!
http://www.decware.com/panels.htm

if the dude ever e-mails me back about the personal planars, I may purchase the plans and give these a go ;o)
we'll see

RedRunnertc
03-01-2007, 09:46 PM
Yeah, aren't people converting those Monsoon speakers for computer use?

SuperPoser
03-01-2007, 09:55 PM
Yeah, aren't people converting those Monsoon speakers for computer use?
I do not know?
to what Monsoon speakers are you refer?

RedRunnertc
03-01-2007, 10:02 PM
I think the ones out of cars - they are a planar type (like a Magnaplanar - not an electrostat like the one you're looking at or a Martin Logan)

A guy I used to work with was a HUGE audiophile, and was putting one together. He bought my old Velodyne sub to go with them...

bradleyem
03-02-2007, 05:22 AM
Planars are cool as hell.....I'd love to get my hands on a set of the old Quad ESL57's and matching Quad monoblock amps :xozzy:


I used to have a Marantz tube amp back in high school.....that was the best sounding amp I've ever heard.

SuperPoser
03-08-2007, 10:38 AM
I will probably pick up the DAYTON HPSA1000-R 1000W RACKMOUNT SUBWOOFER AMPLIFIER (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=300-810) in a few weeks ;o)
time for some new toys :woot:

SuperPoser
03-08-2007, 10:39 AM
Planars are cool as hell.....I'd love to get my hands on a set of the old Quad ESL57's and matching Quad monoblock amps :xozzy:


I used to have a Marantz tube amp back in high school.....that was the best sounding amp I've ever heard.
why did ya get rid of it?

bradleyem
03-08-2007, 05:27 PM
why did ya get rid of it?

well, along came CDs and digital, and the tube amp was a thing of the past...if I had only understood then how much better it sounded.....

SuperPoser
03-08-2007, 10:17 PM
well, along came CDs and digital, and the tube amp was a thing of the past...if I had only understood then how much better it sounded.....
:doh: :buttkick:

SuperPoser
03-16-2007, 09:23 PM
ok,
I finished my ht couch!

it is not as cool as I thought it would be, but it does exactly what it is supposed to do... shakes when there are explosions :rofl:
(for $50, it was a cool mod ;o)

SuperPoser
03-19-2007, 10:53 AM
I auditioned a pair of Focal JMLab Electra Be 1007's

http://www.focal.tm.fr/accueil_en.htm

WOW!!!!

I also got to sit in on a Utopia Be HT system!!! WOW X2!!!

If you are ever in the Dayton area, and have 30 min to spare

check out http://hansonav.com/

very very awsome!!!

(now, all I need to do is win a lot of money :woot: )

SuperPoser
04-17-2007, 07:44 AM
this is kind of geek talk....
i started converting all my CDs to MP3s so I can consolidate space and such... it will be nice for the drive to CO too lol

MP3s are awesome if you have an MP3 compatible car stereo. I can burn over 100 songs on a single CD in MP3 format and have hours of music. Plus you get the artist/title display if your player supports it. The only issue that I've had is with copy protected songs that I've downloaded. My stereo doesn't seem to like playing protected music, even though it says that it's supposed to be able to. So, after I download a bunch of music from walmart or wherever, I just burn it to a CD as a regular music CD, then I rip it back to the computer to get rid of the copy protection. Kinda' a pain in th butt, but at least then all of my music is copy protection free.


I've ripped all of my CDs to my server and between them and what I've downloaded I have over 3700 songs in my music library.

what compressions do you guys use?
I am going the other way with sacd's ;)
although some of the cd players I have auditioned are very very nice...
so perhaps cd's arn't dead yet...
just need some money to spend on a nice cd player or sacd player

I use the highest bitrate that I can in Windows Media Player (144BPS). I'm not concerned about the space, so I would rather have the quality. There is a noticable difference between a production CD and a burned CD though, although it's not too bad at all using the higher bitrates. Where most people mess up is when they try to tweak the music (messing with EQ settings and levels) to try to make is sound better, and usually it ends up sounding worse. Unless you're using studio quality equipment, its really hard to get the levels tweaked fluidly...then the music sounds "choppy" at least IMO.

if doing a cd copy using nero or clone cd,
does this actually copy bit for bit, or does it still rip/compress the songs, then burn the ripped/compressed song to cd?

in audioreview.com, there was a discussion about copied cd's not sounding as good as the original, but my standpoint, if the cd is actually copied, bit for bit, then there is no difference digitally, therefore, all audio equipment held equal, the sound would be the same unless the transport was unable to read the burned media properly...

I however did not claim the software actually did a bit to bit copy, simply if it does, there should be no difference in sound...

from what I remember, clonecd did have a bit to bit copy ability, not sure about any other programs :dunno:

This should be in the audiophile thread LOL

Remember - MP3 is "lossy" compression - it eliminates material that is similar in frequency but at a lower amplitude. Once you rip it, the nuances are gone. For most stuff I'm using MP3 for, the system and my hearing isn't good enough to pick up the difference, so I use a lower bitrate (I usually choose "variable" - sometimes I use 128) to get a bit more compression. The biggest thing for MP3 for me is my iPod and I'm not sure what bitrate it uses (AAC compression though)

oh shush troy lol

good point troy...
how do we move posts from one thread to another?

SuperPoser
04-17-2007, 07:47 AM
btw,
I listen to internet radio...
I use digital out of the computer going to a denon dac (forget the model number)
to my B&K pre, Anthem Amp, and VonSchewikert VR-1's, and it sounds pretty good usually...
ofcouse I use this for background music...

I want to get a moon equanox for cd's but thats a bit pricy...

I like mp3's for my car and background music, but not when I'm going to sit down to enjoy music...

multichannel sacd's are my pick, but that moon cd player would make my cd collection a lot nicer :rofl:

OFRD_GRL
04-17-2007, 07:48 AM
yea mp3s are for the fj :)

SuperPoser
04-17-2007, 08:42 AM
:woot: for 6 hours of music on 1 cd for road trips!

RedRunnertc
04-17-2007, 11:31 AM
good point troy...
how do we move posts from one thread to another?

I think you have to split the thread, then move the new one

EDIT: you can only merge threads, not split them, so I guess you would have to copy the thread, then delete all the OTHER posts... what a PITA ... the quote technique that you did should work!

bradleyem
04-17-2007, 08:59 PM
if doing a cd copy using nero or clone cd,
does this actually copy bit for bit, or does it still rip/compress the songs, then burn the ripped/compressed song to cd?

in audioreview.com, there was a discussion about copied cd's not sounding as good as the original, but my standpoint, if the cd is actually copied, bit for bit, then there is no difference digitally, therefore, all audio equipment held equal, the sound would be the same unless the transport was unable to read the burned media properly...

I however did not claim the software actually did a bit to bit copy, simply if it does, there should be no difference in sound...

from what I remember, clonecd did have a bit to bit copy ability, not sure about any other programs


Yes, if you are clonong an audio CD and leaving the format the same, then the sound should be the same. The losses experienced are due to the compression used in the coversion to MP3, WMA, or whatever format that you use. Some people say that any burned CD, whether it is in standard audio format, or converted to a compressed format does not sound the same as a production CD. But with pretty much any burned CD the data is manipulated and converted in some way or another, even within the same format. When you copy a CD, the data is read from the source CD, copied to a temp file on the hard drive, then burned to the target CD. Also different CD readers and burners have different bit rates at which they read and write. The only true way to ensure that it is the same is, like Mike said, do a bit by bit clone of the CD, but most people don't care to do a clone of their CDs. The object for most is to be able to fit more music on a disc, and to be able to pick and chose individual songs from multiple CDs or sources.

SuperPoser
04-18-2007, 07:22 AM
thanks for the info ;)

RedRunnertc
05-04-2007, 11:04 PM
Something is not right with my front left speaker ... hope it's just a wire somewhere and not a blown speaker or amp channel

SuperPoser
05-05-2007, 09:12 AM
Something is not right with my front left speaker ... hope it's just a wire somewhere and not a blown speaker or amp channel

Yikes!

blow your amps and preamp out with compressed air... may help if it's not just a wire...

or... upgrade time! :woot:
although for me, fall/winter is usually audio&computer season, summer is bikes & trucks...lol

SuperPoser
05-05-2007, 09:14 AM
if it's just the speaker, I think paradigm has a nice repair policy... check with your local paradigm dealer...

btw, have you check out the new series 4 studios?
imo, the series 3s sounded a lot better...

RedRunnertc
05-05-2007, 09:24 AM
Yeah, the good thing is it's all quality equipment so getting it repaired (as opposed to replacement) is really feasible. If it's something in the preamp, it might be under warranty from when I had it upgraded.

Unfortunately, I have a case of Ohio lazy right now and don't feel like looking into it LOL

SuperPoser
05-05-2007, 09:29 AM
Yeah, the good thing is it's all quality equipment so getting it repaired (as opposed to replacement) is really feasible. If it's something in the preamp, it might be under warranty from when I had it upgraded.

Unfortunately, I have a case of Ohio lazy right now and don't feel like looking into it LOL

Ohio Lazyness does not outweigh inferior auido!
get your but out of that chair and go find out whats wrong!
:rofl:

SuperPoser
05-05-2007, 09:49 PM
Fluance (http://www.fluance.com/)
lots of good reviews...
no reviews I have found comparing to a known good speaker...

looking for my brother... running off a pioneer 100W x7 receiver...

option 2 would be, let him use some of my old speakers, and build some nice ones this summer...

RedRunnertc
05-05-2007, 10:21 PM
Look like some good prices - wonder what drivers they use (Dynaudio, Focal, etc)

SuperPoser
05-05-2007, 10:32 PM
I am sure some cheap china brand drivers :rofl:
I am thinking some mid to late 1990's optimus bookshelves would be best for mark...
they are rather cheap on ebay ;o)

RedRunnertc
05-05-2007, 11:06 PM
I have some older JBL 2600 bookshelves that sound really good. Built before JBL went downhill (and then got good again LOL)

SuperPoser
05-05-2007, 11:49 PM
JBL got good again?
(sorry, haven't paid much attention to them)

I have some old party speakers (technics 15" 3-ways) I figure I'll give mark for his birthday...
just need to get a center and surround for cheap...

ya, the 15s may not sound that great, but better or louder than the tv speakers he has now :rofl:

RedRunnertc
05-06-2007, 11:01 AM
Everyone's ears and expectations are different ... may be the best sounding thing he's ever heard! Not everyone can appreciate the abilities of super high-end audio (myself included - too many years of driving around in a car with 150+dB capability)

SuperPoser
05-06-2007, 11:33 AM
true true