View Full Version : 2nd gear is hard to shift into.
02-27-2007, 03:54 PM
Well, I bought a 97 4 runner 4 cyl,5 speed last august off of craigslist. Naturally I have had a few issues, but one that has started to manifest it's self in cold weather.
When I start up in the morning, I have a bitch of a time getting into 2nd gear. If I take my rpms a little higher in first(3-4k) rather than 2.5k-3k before I shift from first to second, It's a little better.
I kind of have to give it some love to get it in, and when I have driven for a mile or perhaps less, I can then move through my gears with ease.
Any Ideas what might cause this?
As an aside, I get down shift into first unless I am fully stopped, but this may be unrelated, or expected behavior.
Thanks for any help.
02-27-2007, 05:01 PM
Its not much help but I have had the same problems with my truck since I bought it. It seems to be pretty common.
02-27-2007, 05:26 PM
Then I wont worry about it
02-27-2007, 07:05 PM
you can try overfilling your tranny fluid but usually the fluid is just a little thicker in the morning when its cold and it takes a bit to warm up... you might have syn in there and that kinda exagerates the problem in the colder weather. mine is pretty bad in the winter time....
02-27-2007, 07:29 PM
Or if the synthetic is TOO slick, the synchros don't work as well...I have more positive shifting since I switched from dino to synthetic, but it does seem to grind a little more...
02-28-2007, 11:29 AM
So when it warms up it shifts fine?
If it only has problems in the cold, you might try changing the gear oil. If it was a syncro ring problem I think it would always be hard to shift into second.
I had a problem about a week ago. I usually park in the garage, but I had to park outside over night in the freezing cold.
When I went out to start up the truck I could not shift into any gear, it was like moving my shifter through mud. After about 10 min the tranny warmed up and I could shift fine.
How is your clutch? I have usually experienced problems shifting into Reverse when a hydraulic clutch starts to go. But I suppose it could also effect shifting into other gears.
The not being able to down shifting into first while moving is normal. I have to be almost completely stopped to sift into first. I don’t know for sure but first gear may not have a syncro ring. I know a lot of older tranny's have no 1st gear syncro, older fords and VW’s come to mind.
x2 on maybe changing the oil viscosity since it only happens when it is cold
03-01-2007, 12:11 AM
Yes, the problem is temp bound. yesterday, in the AM it was hard to shift, but when I left work after the car had been sitting in the sun for the day, I had no issues.
Good to know that 4 runners also have the same issue getting down to first. I had heard that some older cars have that issue, but I'm glad to know its not just me.
I dont know how to judge the clutch. The only thing that bothers me about it, is that I have to jam the peddle until is hit the floor to get the clutch to disengage.
I lack a basis of comparison with manual transmission, since this is my first.
03-01-2007, 08:03 AM
Sounds like your clutch pedal may need to be adjusted. This is for an older truck, but the procedure should be the same:
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