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dmartin151

03-12-2007, 09:18 PM

I would like more info
I am not as Hardcore as some of you, but I do the Martinez Cabin/Mill trip and Coke ovens
I would like some more info, and where to sign up. I might not camp, and might like to watch or take some moderate trails
LMK
David

4xClover

03-12-2007, 09:31 PM

Hey David -

All the info for AzRocks can be found at the AzRocks website. http://azttora.com/azrocks07/

No sign up is necessary, just come on out and enjoy the festivities.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
Tim

dmartin151

03-13-2007, 07:39 PM

dmartin151

03-13-2007, 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=4xClover]Hey David -

All the info for AzRocks can be found at the AzRocks website. http://azttora.com/azrocks07/

No sign up is necessary, just come on out and enjoy the festivities.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Is that a Thursday through Saturday???
If so I might only make it Saturday
David

Heatstroke

03-13-2007, 10:24 PM

People will be arriving all days, the actual event is officially Friday and Saturday with folks bailing out on Sunday. There will be plenty of people to do stuff with on Thursday afternoon, Friday and Saturday. See you there.

Westy

03-15-2007, 04:41 PM

Is anyone planning to run Bad Medicine? I walked it last weekend and want to give it a run soon.

FAUX X 4

03-15-2007, 04:55 PM

Is anyone planning to run Bad Medicine? I walked it last weekend and want to give it a run soon.

It can be arranged! :D

seriously though...............if I have enough people that want to run it on Friday after I lead a group through Overdose I don't see why we can't hit BM afterwards.

4xClover

03-15-2007, 05:00 PM

...if I have enough people that want to run it on Friday after I lead a group through Overdose I don't see why we can't hit BM afterwards.

Just make sure you have some Bon Jovi cranked up when running it! :xrocker:

FAUX X 4

03-15-2007, 05:05 PM

Just make sure you have some Bon Jovi cranked up when running it! :xrocker:

Damnit..............you always have to ruin my good time!!! :mad:

..............perhaps you would prefer "Dr. Feelgood" ;)

4xClover

03-15-2007, 05:14 PM

Damnit..............you always have to ruin my good time!!! :mad:

..............perhaps you would prefer "Dr. Feelgood" ;)

You find a trail named "Dr. Feelgood" and you can play that song. Now you can thank me for having both those songs in your head...you're prolly singing them right now. : :xrocker: :xozzy: :xrocker:

FAUX X 4

03-15-2007, 05:17 PM

You find a trail named "Dr. Feelgood" and you can play that song. Now you can thank me for having both those songs in your head...you're prolly singing them right now. : :xrocker: :xozzy: :xrocker:

....with them both going at the same time it's not so bad! :D

4xClover

03-15-2007, 05:18 PM

....with them both going at the same time it's not so bad! :D

Yeah...come to think of it you're right! :cool:

Westy

03-15-2007, 10:39 PM

I probably wont be out there on the Friday, more likely Saturday.

MerMan

03-15-2007, 10:57 PM

Bad Medicine, im up for it :driving: ill try to make it out there fri night....

Kaistie

03-16-2007, 07:58 AM

You ain't gonna make it anywhere, who are you kidding. You will be late as usual, or not show up at all :flipoff1:

Where is Jovan these days? I can't find him. Did he get run over by a roach coach?

MerMan

03-16-2007, 08:19 AM

:rolleyes: what are you talking about, i'm always on time guy! Jovan is down for a while, he's trying to fit larry's39.5 iroks in his piece :saw:

FAUX X 4

03-16-2007, 10:30 AM

Bad Medicine, im up for it :driving: ill try to make it out there fri night....

Call in sick and get your MerButt out there Thursday night! :D

MerMan

03-16-2007, 04:54 PM

:D good idea, maybe i will!

FAUX X 4

03-16-2007, 04:59 PM

:D good idea, maybe i will!

I'm leading a "new swap shakedown" run through Elvis Thursday night around 7pm.........be there sucker! :D

Westy

04-04-2007, 11:02 AM

It can be arranged! :D

seriously though...............if I have enough people that want to run it on Friday after I lead a group through Overdose I don't see why we can't hit BM afterwards.

Alright Faux, got Friday off and I am game for Overdose ( I think...only walked the first half) and would defintely like to hit Bad Medicine as well.

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 11:09 AM

Alright Faux, got Friday off and I am game for Overdose ( I think...only walked the first half) and would defintely like to hit Bad Medicine as well.

Sounds like a plan!..............the first half is the worst part of it, once your past the fall it's all gravy. :D

We need to walk it to the fall and make sure there is a winch point before we run it though...........unless somebody wants to run it backwards to give us a winch point or somebody is sure they can drive the fall........I don't see us backing out or turning around once were in there.

Westy

04-04-2007, 11:20 AM

Heatstroke

04-04-2007, 11:22 AM

Should I be able to survive this or will the front go boom??? I can wait til the cromo's are in.

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 11:31 AM

No backing out of that trail would is not high on my list. Have you done BM before, and driven the exit waterfall?

I will be at the main camp by 8:30am. '86 Toyota flatbed, and possibly another buddy and his YJ.

Never done BM yet, but that never stopped me from running anything before! :D

..........see you Friday morning! :kewl:

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 11:32 AM

Should I be able to survive this or will the front go boom??? I can wait til the cromo's are in.

You should be able to run this one................your chances for going "BOOM" are no more or less than mine at this point! ;)

..........It'd be interesting to see a "schoolbuss" try the fall!!! :eek:

Westy

04-04-2007, 11:36 AM

Never done BM yet, but that never stopped me from running anything before! :D

..........see you Friday morning! :kewl:

The exit should be a fun one :D See ya out there.

Heatstroke

04-04-2007, 11:39 AM

You should be able to run this one................your chances for going "BOOM" are no more or less than mine at this point! ;)

..........It'd be interesting to see a "schoolbuss" try the fall!!! :eek:

Hmmm, I think I've seen a School Bus on tractor tires before. Obviously I'd rather not go BOOM. We'll see how the tires are doing and if everything is holding together at that point. If I'm not comfortable with it, then I can drive around and be the anchor point.

Heatstroke

04-04-2007, 11:45 AM

Ha Ha.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/heatstroke/bus.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/heatstroke/bus2.jpg

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 11:47 AM

Hmmm, I think I've seen a School Bus on tractor tires before. Obviously I'd rather not go BOOM. We'll see how the tires are doing and if everything is holding together at that point. If I'm not comfortable with it, then I can drive around and be the anchor point.

Sounds good!!! :D

here's some shot's of the fall on OD...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/normal_100_0187.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/normal_100_0197.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/normal_100_0198.jpg

Looks easy enough RIGHT??? :D

Heatstroke

04-04-2007, 11:54 AM

Sounds good!!! :D

Looks easy enough RIGHT??? :D

I was there after Josh's truck went BOOM! . I know the big fall. I'm just not sure how the stock (nearly 30 yr old) shafts are gonna hold up. I would have a whole lot less hesitancy if the front was cromo'd out with uber fancy joints. We'll see how comfy I'm feeling.

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 11:56 AM

I was there after Josh's truck went BOOM! . I know the big fall. I'm just not sure how the stock (nearly 30 yr old) shafts are gonna hold up. I would have a whole lot less hesitancy if the front was cromo'd out with uber fancy joints. We'll see how comfy I'm feeling.

You should be able to climb it just fine, high center like I did and winch/strap from there...........I doubt our uber looooooooooong wheelbase rigs will be able to even think about trying to drive the fall! :eek:

Westy

04-04-2007, 11:59 AM

Cool. Looks like a good one.

BM -
http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/2434/2092365070078568103S600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/127/2924909310078568103S600x600Q85.jpg

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 12:03 PM

Cool. Looks like a good one.

BM -
http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/2434/2092365070078568103S600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/127/2924909310078568103S600x600Q85.jpg

Definately looks like a fun one! :D

..........I just hope I can remember how to find them! :rolleyes:

Westy

04-04-2007, 12:07 PM

We'll find them. I have a pretty good idea after the last time I was out there.

If someone has a GPS, I have the coords to BM trailhead, and OD is an offshot of the BM wash, I know where it is.

Heatstroke

04-04-2007, 12:10 PM

Check this guys pics out. It looks TIGHT in a few spots.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/546876306OfOybT

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 12:15 PM

We'll find them. I have a pretty good idea after the last time I was out there.

If someone has a GPS, I have the coords to BM trailhead, and OD is an offshot of the BM wash, I know where it is.

I'm pretty sure I can find them................but I have been known to miss a few turns............right Mike???!!! :lmao:

gambrinus

04-04-2007, 12:19 PM

We need to walk it to the fall and make sure there is a winch point before we run it though...........unless somebody wants to run it backwards to give us a winch point or somebody is sure they can drive the fall........I don't see us backing out or turning around once were in there.

I was wondering about the condition of the winch point. The last time kirk and I were out there (november I think) the winch point barely held to get kirk up. I winched off kirk to get up it. I've got a old d44 shaft that I can bring - which will be useless unless someone brings a sledge hammer.

I would be surprised to see someone in 'our' group (full bodied, long wheel base, etc) drive the last water fall. Once the front tires crest the top you end up sitting on your frame rails before the rear tires can get a decent bite. If you are too short its just as bad for the opposite reason - flop over backwards. Somewhere inbetween is the perfect wheelbase / tire size / hp combo that can do it.

Driving someone around to the end to be the winch point (if necessary) should be easy.

later!
shane

Westy

04-04-2007, 12:21 PM

Check this guys pics out. It looks TIGHT in a few spots.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/546876306OfOybT

Yup, thats the last fall. Only one way out and thats UP. :kewl:

Although there is another wash that branches off just before the turnoff to the fall...it could be a bypass exit - I didnt walk that part very far.

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 12:26 PM

I was wondering about the condition of the winch point. The last time kirk and I were out there (november I think) the winch point barely held to get kirk up. I winched off kirk to get up it. I've got a old d44 shaft that I can bring - which will be useless unless someone brings a sledge hammer.

I would be surprised to see someone in 'our' group (full bodied, long wheel base, etc) drive the last water fall. Once the front tires crest the top you end up sitting on your frame rails before the rear tires can get a decent bite. If you are too short its just as bad for the opposite reason - flop over backwards. Somewhere inbetween is the perfect wheelbase / tire size / hp combo that can do it.

Driving someone around to the end to be the winch point (if necessary) should be easy.

later!
shane

I've been told by a few people that there is a big rock about 75 feet from the fall that is being used as the new winch point. That's why I want to walk it first to see if that's the case. I could bring my 8 pound sledge also so we can try to make a new anchor if need be. I have also heard tale of a stretched wheelbase (120) Juggy making the fall recently............that's only 5" shorter than mine............will that make the difference???..........probably not! ;)

TimF

04-04-2007, 12:38 PM

Juggy

????

:boobies:

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 12:40 PM

????

:boobies:

JEEP+BUGGY=JUGGY....................but I think :boobies: would be more fun!! ;)

TimF

04-04-2007, 01:02 PM

JEEP+BUGGY=JUGGY....................but I think :boobies: would be more fun!! ;)

:boobies:

are always more fun!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sean K.

04-04-2007, 01:27 PM

I opened this trail with some other members of my old club. The fall is not the only way out. You have another mile or so of trail running to go out another way....we did it the first time we went in....but part of the return road is washed away and we had to go over a hilltop to get back to the "normal" roads out there.

I know two guys in 108" WB buggies that made the fall recently. When it was less washed out, I used to do it all the time in my 105" WB Toyota with a flatbed. I haven't seen it recently, but I'm betting with a little work it's doable. The hardest part, IMO, has always been the very top....trying to fit through the squeeze if you can't just go over the 4' rock on the passenger side.

HTH,
Sean

Sean K.

04-04-2007, 01:29 PM

Any idea how many vehicles you guys are expecting total for the event?

Sean

JOSHHOEFER

04-04-2007, 01:39 PM

Check this guys pics out. It looks TIGHT in a few spots.

It's definitely tight getting a long wheelbase rig around the corner on the top of the fall. I had to be yanked through there last time.

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 01:51 PM

Any idea how many vehicles you guys are expecting total for the event?

Sean

On this particular run or in general for the weekend???

padesertboy

04-04-2007, 01:59 PM

I have them marked on my GPS...OD is IMO easy to find-it`s
BM that I need to the the GPS for.

BM is very close to x.

FAUX X 4

04-04-2007, 02:04 PM

I have them marked on my GPS...OD is IMO easy to find-it`s
BM that I need to the the GPS for.

BM is very close to x.

If I can find one, then I can find the other! :D

Westy

04-04-2007, 02:08 PM

If I can find one, then I can find the other! :D

X2

Sean K.

04-04-2007, 07:29 PM

It's definitely tight getting a long wheelbase rig around the corner on the top of the fall. I had to be yanked through there last time.

As well as the entrance (if you're running full widths).

Sean

Sean K.

04-04-2007, 07:29 PM

On this particular run or in general for the weekend???

In general for the weekend.

Sean

Sean K.

04-04-2007, 10:01 PM

JOSHHOEFER

04-05-2007, 08:58 AM

Heatstroke

04-05-2007, 10:10 AM

After working my ass off this week to try and finish up my giant POS, it's become apparent I will NEVER be done with this F***ing thing. Needless to say, I won't be making this weekend (not that any of you know me anyway).

Maybe another time (if I don't chop this heap of shit in two over the coming weekend).

Sean

Dude, trust me, I know the feeling VERY well as of late. 30 hours a week (after work and weekends) and til midnight the last couple nights. Then BLAM!! A/C nukes...!#$%^&*!#$%^&* stupid !#$%^&* piece of !#$%^&* AUGHHHHHHHH !!!! If I can just make it to camp tonight and try out my truck, then have some beers, things will be all good. But as of now, I've had enough.

Try and have a good weekend. We'll catch you on a future run.

Westy

04-05-2007, 10:53 AM

Dude, trust me, I know the feeling VERY well as of late. 30 hours a week (after work and weekends) and til midnight the last couple nights. Then BLAM!! A/C nukes...!#$%^&*!#$%^&* stupid !#$%^&* piece of !#$%^&* AUGHHHHHHHH !!!! If I can just make it to camp tonight and try out my truck, then have some beers, things will be all good. But as of now, I've had enough.

Try and have a good weekend. We'll catch you on a future run.

That sucks...I know how you feel. A/C went out in my 4runner...just in time for summer. Good luck...get that thing out there. Just take the doors off for the weekend. See you tomorrow!

Heatstroke

04-05-2007, 11:55 AM

That sucks...I know how you feel. A/C went out in my 4runner...just in time for summer. Good luck...get that thing out there. Just take the doors off for the weekend. See you tomorrow!

If the heavens will show even an ounce of compassion on me it will be fixed by early afternoon after an emergency trip to Theiles. It's under the knife as I'm stuck at work anyway, otherwise I'd be swamp-ass'n it all weekend.