BFG A/T or Yokohama Geo's

[EDM]

I am going to upsizing my tires soon to a 265/75-16. I have been looking at two different tires the BFG A/T and the Yokohama Geolandar A/T. I don't do a lot of offroad but if I do I want one that will perform well. Which do you guys prefer? I want a tire that will last a while also.

[chasintail]

I am going to upsizing my tires soon to a 265/75-16. I have been looking at two different tires the BFG A/T and the Yokohama Geolandar A/T. I don't do a lot of offroad but if I do I want one that will perform well. Which do you guys prefer? I want a tire that will last a while also.


I am like the yokos the A/Ts and the M/Ts personalty but thats only cause I get them for 65 a tire. So that makes them great! I have had two sets of A/Ts not on a taco but a s10 truck and one set of the M/Ts, the M/T or not great on the road. :xbeer3:

[KSdblcab]

Unless you absolutely have to have only one of the two mentioned brands, check out Bridgestone's REVO's. A good tire, cheaper than BFG, and will last longer. Compare at www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com) , and check out the specs.

[Nanotruck]

I am going to upsizing my tires soon to a 265/75-16. I have been looking at two different tires the BFG A/T and the Yokohama Geolandar A/T. I don't do a lot of offroad but if I do I want one that will perform well. Which do you guys prefer? I want a tire that will last a while also.
I'm on my second set of BFG AT's. I've never owned the Geolanders, but for me (daily driver) I couldn't be happier with the performance of the Goodrich's.

[EDM]

Unless you absolutely have to have only one of the two mentioned brands, check out Bridgestone's REVO's. A good tire, cheaper than BFG, and will last longer. Compare at www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com) , and check out the specs.

Yeah I checked the prices on both tires and the BFG's are about $200.00 more for the set.

[Jamier2]

I don't understand something. People have posted that Revo's are cheaper than BFG AT's. Here is the page (for 31x10.5) on www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com/) that shows that the BFG's are $115, and the Revo's are $125 each. That would mean the BFG's are $40 cheaper.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare2.jsp?shipquote=N&compare=true&partNumber=&make=&model=&clarifier=&price=&width=31X&ratio=10.5&diameter=15&sortCode=&speedRating=&qty=&stockMessage=&type=T&URL=&newCompare=true&prevprice=&loadRating=&promoShortText=&promoUrl=&promoLongText=&sidewall=&sidewallShown=&frontTire=&frontLeftTire=&rearTire=&rearLeftTire=&wantRHP=&RHPprice=&sumRating=&hasSpec=&hasWarranty=&hasComments=&hasTests=&hasSurveys=&perf=&pre=&specCode=&autoMake=&autoModel=&autoYear=&autoModClar=&goWhere=%252Ftires%252FCompare1.jsp&AddToUser=true&startIndex=10&sortValue=1&qty_105R5LTXOWL_=4&qty_105R5LARAWPOWL_=4&qty_105QR5GEOHTSOWL_=4&compareList=13&qty_105QR5ATAKORWL_=4&qty_105SR5AT693OWL_=4&compareList=15&qty_105SR5ATREVOWL_=4&qty_105R5ROVOWL_=4&qty_105R5ROVXTOWL_=4&qty_105R5DESTATOWL_=4&qty_105QR5AMTRACTROWL_=4

[Jamier2]

That's odd. I just rechecked in the size the first post is looking for, and the Revo's are $10 cheaper per tire. Still the difference is only $40 either way.

Also, my vote is for the BFG AT's. Good all around performance, good in snow, decent street manners, and good for general off road stuff. I had one set last over 70,000 miles, on a fullsize Chevy.

[KRYPTO(dale)]

[QUOTE=EDM]I am going to upsizing my tires soon to a 265/75-16. I have been looking at two different tires the BFG A/T and the Yokohama Geolandar A/T. I don't do a lot of offroad but if I do I want one that will perform well. Which do you guys prefer? I want a tire that will last a while also.[/QUOTE

i like the bfg a/t.on my driver.they hanldle pretty good.

[Crash]

Go with the BFG's!

[EDM]

I don't understand something. People have posted that Revo's are cheaper than BFG AT's. Here is the page (for 31x10.5) on www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com/) that shows that the BFG's are $115, and the Revo's are $125 each. That would mean the BFG's are $40 cheaper.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare2.jsp?shipquote=N&compare=true&partNumber=&make=&model=&clarifier=&price=&width=31X&ratio=10.5&diameter=15&sortCode=&speedRating=&qty=&stockMessage=&type=T&URL=&newCompare=true&prevprice=&loadRating=&promoShortText=&promoUrl=&promoLongText=&sidewall=&sidewallShown=&frontTire=&frontLeftTire=&rearTire=&rearLeftTire=&wantRHP=&RHPprice=&sumRating=&hasSpec=&hasWarranty=&hasComments=&hasTests=&hasSurveys=&perf=&pre=&specCode=&autoMake=&autoModel=&autoYear=&autoModClar=&goWhere=%252Ftires%252FCompare1.jsp&AddToUser=true&startIndex=10&sortValue=1&qty_105R5LTXOWL_=4&qty_105R5LARAWPOWL_=4&qty_105QR5GEOHTSOWL_=4&compareList=13&qty_105QR5ATAKORWL_=4&qty_105SR5AT693OWL_=4&compareList=15&qty_105SR5ATREVOWL_=4&qty_105R5ROVOWL_=4&qty_105R5ROVXTOWL_=4&qty_105R5DESTATOWL_=4&qty_105QR5AMTRACTROWL_=4


Just for kicks I looked up the stock 265/70-16 and they were more money then the 265/75-16 in both tires. :confused: I will probably just bite the bullet and go with the BFG.

[Stock02]

I am going to upsizing my tires soon to a 265/75-16. I have been looking at two different tires the BFG A/T and the Yokohama Geolandar A/T. I don't do a lot of offroad but if I do I want one that will perform well. Which do you guys prefer? I want a tire that will last a while also.
I ran the BFGs a few yrs back when I lived in Maine and was very happy with their performance.

[KawRider]

I just got the Revos (about 3500 miles ago). They are the bomb. A lot of people here havew the BFGs... but the latest and greatest are the Revos. Do a tire comparison search on the net and theyu blow everything away... (when you are talking all-purpose tire). The tread is super thick too.... I paid a few bucks more and got the ones with more plys. I love them.

[EDM]

I just got the Revos (about 3500 miles ago). They are the bomb. A lot of people here havew the BFGs... but the latest and greatest are the Revos. Do a tire comparison search on the net and theyu blow everything away... (when you are talking all-purpose tire). The tread is super thick too.... I paid a few bucks more and got the ones with more plys. I love them.

I will look into those too. I see they got great reveiws for people on tire rack.

[KawRider]

The tires I got are these:

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo
P275/70R16 114S
They are $132 each at tire rack. I also got a new set of 16 x 8 wheels when I got my new tires. These tires are aprox 1 inch taller and 1 inch wider than stock. They fit my stock Tacoma no problem. I also got new Bilstein HD shocks... they dramatically improve the handling on the Taco. Every once in a while you (lightly) hear the tire touch the mud flap. It happens only when doing an agressive, sharp turn while hitting a big bump... happens about once every 2 weeks. The wheels I got are the MB Motoring Overdrive (100 bucks each) from Americas tire Co.

http://www.americastire.com/dtc/searchWheelsByVehicleAndSize.do?rc=LAHINT&yr=2002&wd=16&sw=false&rw=&vid=007370&bp=


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?startIndex=0&vehicleSearch=true&width=275%2F&ratio=70&diameter=16&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&performance=ORAT&manufacturer=Bridgestone&speed_rating=SR&speed_rating=TR&speed_rating=UR&speed_rating=HR&speed_rating=VR&speed_rating=WR&speed_rating=YR&speed_rating=ZR&x=14&y=7

[EDM]

The tires I got are these:

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo
P275/70R16 114S
They are $132 each at tire rack. I also got a new set of 16 x 8 wheels when I got my new tires. These tires are aprox 1 inch taller and 1 inch wider than stock. They fit my stock Tacoma no problem. I also got new Bilstein HD shocks... they dramatically improve the handling on the Taco. Every once in a while you (lightly) hear the tire touch the mud flap. It happens only when doing an agressive, sharp turn while hitting a big bump... happens about once every 2 weeks. The wheels I got are the MB Motoring Overdrive (100 bucks each) from Americas tire Co.

http://www.americastire.com/dtc/searchWheelsByVehicleAndSize.do?rc=LAHINT&yr=2002&wd=16&sw=false&rw=&vid=007370&bp=


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?startIndex=0&vehicleSearch=true&width=275%2F&ratio=70&diameter=16&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&performance=ORAT&manufacturer=Bridgestone&speed_rating=SR&speed_rating=TR&speed_rating=UR&speed_rating=HR&speed_rating=VR&speed_rating=WR&speed_rating=YR&speed_rating=ZR&x=14&y=7


I probably wouldn't run into any rubbing problems since I am lifted 2" in the front and 1" in the rear. I am running the same size wheels as you but in the MT classic II. I am going to go with the 265/75-16. But first I need to have my alignment checked before I buy new tires.

[atwinda]

I am going to upsizing my tires soon to a 265/75-16. I have been looking at two different tires the BFG A/T and the Yokohama Geolandar A/T. I don't do a lot of offroad but if I do I want one that will perform well. Which do you guys prefer? I want a tire that will last a while also.

I had the BFG's on my truck before the Goodyears, and my dad has 265/75 geolanders on his tundra. The geolangers tend to last longer on the mountain roads, but have more road nose. AT's are more quite, but don't take abuse as well as the geolanders. If you can stand a little humming, go with the Geolanders.

[EDM]

I had the BFG's on my truck before the Goodyears, and my dad has 265/75 geolanders on his tundra. The geolangers tend to last longer on the mountain roads, but have more road nose. AT's are more quite, but don't take abuse as well as the geolanders. If you can stand a little humming, go with the Geolanders.


What are you running now?

[JonnyOzero3]

I am going to upsizing my tires soon to a 265/75-16. I have been looking at two different tires the BFG A/T and the Yokohama Geolandar A/T. I don't do a lot of offroad but if I do I want one that will perform well. Which do you guys prefer? I want a tire that will last a while also.

I'd vote for the write-in-candidate Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos for a couple of reasons. First, I've had a set of 31" Revos for ~40,000 miles and absolutely love them - when they wear out (won't be for a long time) I will get another set. Second, while I haven't owned the BFGs (which are great tires also IMHO), I have ridden in trucks with them and heard many opinions - the majority of which says that the Revos have a superior on road ride quality. I have done some decent trails like Poison Spider in Moab and others in Colorado and Texas and have NEVER been unable to keep up with BFG AT or random MT equipped trucks.

The only times I have felt the limits of the Revo tires offroad is in deeper mud or on icy hills (that nobody else could get up either). They stick like glue to rock (They LOVED the Moab Slickrock), and are fantasically capable in your normal dirt/whatever offroad conditions. I was also amazed at how well they handled trails covered in ice. I was able to get myself into dumb almost carnage-inducing scenarios because the tires helped me get further up an icy hill than I should have been :p

Also, the Revos have a 30 day trial - so return them if they're not good enough for you. They also have a 50,000 mile treadlife warranty. The BFGs offer neither unfortunately. All said, I am no fanboy, and these are both fantastic tire choices (I'd guess the Yokos are good too, but I have no experience with them). Frankly, if the BFG's are rated at 100% offroad the Revos would be a 95% in my opinion. But, on road, the Revos seem to rule. Either way, you will be set nicely.

In case you didn't see this - check it out. This many people can't be full of crap :rolleyes:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT
I bought the revos the month they came out, and have watched the ratings stay that high since they were listed on the site with only around 2,000 user miles. A buddy of mine bought a set at the same time in the 265/75-16 size for his lifted 4runner and still loves them also.

Let us know what you decide...goodluck!

Jon O.
CoTTORA in TX
http://community.webshots.com/user/jonnyozero3
1999 Black Xtracab SR5 TRD V6 5spd
OME, Sliders, Scratches

[atwinda]

What are you running now?

I had the BFG's on my truck before the Goodyears

285/75 Goodyear MT/rs, and I absolutely love them.

[DakotaTacoma]

Go with the BFG's
I always get 50,000-60,000 miles on mine.
They work great offroad, and are quite onroad.
And it is hard to beat the tri-guard sidewalls...most other tires are 2-ply.

[EDM]

Arrr so many tires to choose from. :explode:



Anyone ever run the MT Baja MTX?
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/images/baja_radial_mtx.gif

[Outback]

Yes, BFG's are great tires... But!! The 265/75/16 size is load range "D" which I believe is too heavy of a tire sidewall and carcass for our light Tacos and 90% daily driving -- like me. Load range "D" tires are hard to balance too.

BFG does NOT make a 16" load range "C" AT ko tire in 265/75/16.

Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos ARE offered in a load range "C" carcass in the 265/75/16 size. That's why I'm going for the Revos.

Jody.

[mr.trd]

I vote for the BFG A/T KO's... I have run them and think that they are probably one of the best all terrain tires out there.....the others would be the Toyo Open Country A/T's and the GoodYear Wrangler ATS's......

[RAMPHONIC]

I Have The Yoko's In That Size Theyre Pretty Sporty Compared To Other Tires, Have Good Traction Off Road, But If You Can Get A Deal On Bfgs Id Get Them Just Because They Will Last Longer

[TacoTaco]

BFG At's. Good tire, with nice wear and traction.

[Uneasy Rider]

I just bought a set of BFG A/T K/O's size 275/70/16 for my 01 Double cab & absolutely love them. I was looking at the REVO's also but decided to go with the BFG's, they just have a little more rugged look to them, & all I have heard are good things about them. The Load class D rating definately does NOT make them ride rough in my opinion...I thought they would, especially when comparing them to the stock Dunlops that I had on it since new. They actually ride much nicer than my stock tires.

[EDM]

I looked on Tire Rack and it says the speed rating of the BFG is too low. They are rated a Q it says the tacoma should have no lower then an S.

[Jamier2]

Q rating = up to 99 mph
S rating = up to 112 mph

I don't think it makes that big a difference personally. These tires aren't for speed, and I never go quite that fast in my Tacoma. If you do, the I guess I would consider that when buying tires. Although I wouldn't do it again, I have taken BFG AT's beyond 112 mph and had no problems. :)

[calamaridog]

Just for kicks I looked up the stock 265/70-16 and they were more money then the 265/75-16 in both tires. :confused: I will probably just bite the bullet and go with the BFG.


This is because the sell about 20 times more 265 75r16 size tires due to the extreme popularity of this tire size.

As far as the BFG AT's go, I like mine and would recommend them to anyone needing a good all purpose tire.

[01doublecab]

Are the Revos and the BFG A/Ts really compareable. The BFGs are actually an offroad capable tire while the revos look like a decent street tire that can drive through snow or an occasional drive across a dirt road. I have had BFG A/T & Mud Terrains. They both were great tires and am just a little leary about going with the Revos because of the tread pattern. Any one have any experience with Revos and mud or snow?

[Uneasy Rider]

While not a direct comparo...My younger brother has a set of REVO's on his 4x4 Ford Ranger & they are definately a more street orientated tire. When we were off-roading, he had considerably more wheel spin than me. They also seemed alittle more prone to sliding into ruts while trying to straddle them. Problably due to the lack of agressive tread on the shoulder. He paid less for his REVO's so that was a factor in his tire choice.

[4-Bangerfromtheburg]

Yokos are by far the best deal and perhaps the best trail/tread wise. Previously, I ran a set of the Yoko M/T (31x10.5) on my Tacoma and the bastards help up for 70k miles - i $hit you not. Yes the tires were practically bald, but they had awesome tread life. Having driven like hell on the highway (75mph+) and beating them up on the trail, the tires exceeded my expectations. In addition, the traction is second to none. Currently, I have the Yoko A/T and I’m amazed. The A/T runs quite on the highway and to my amazement performs excellent in mud, snow, and rain. Clearly the Japanese make the best tires and trucks. Get off the BFG/Bridgestone-bandwagon and buy a better tire.

[Super Doody]

Not to confuse you guys even more but these also look interesting.

http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Toyo&tiremodel=Open+Country+A%2FT

They look more aggressive than bfg AT but still road worthy.

[EDM]

Well I think I have made up my mind and decided to go with these.

http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/images/baja_radial_mtx.gif

[JonnyOzero3]

Goodluck man - Looks good. They remind me of my Goodyear Wrangler GSA's or whatever my stock tires were. Scared me for a moment...haha. Hope they work well for you...

[akshunj]

I am going to upsizing my tires soon to a 265/75-16. I have been looking at two different tires the BFG A/T and the Yokohama Geolandar A/T. I don't do a lot of offroad but if I do I want one that will perform well. Which do you guys prefer? I want a tire that will last a while also.
I'd go with the BFG AT's. I had 92k miles on my last set before I had to replace them. They couldn't balance one of them at that point so I just replaced all four. I thought was going to get 100k out of them and came close.

They are great tires on the road, off road, and in the snow they're excellent. They are arguably the best all around truck tire you can buy.

Shop around, I received quotes ranging from $109 ea to $143 ea installed and disposal of the old ones.

[akshunj]

I'm on my second set of BFG AT's. I've never owned the Geolanders, but for me (daily driver) I couldn't be happier with the performance of the Goodrich's.
How many miles did you get off the first set?

[JonnyOzero3]

Are the Revos and the BFG A/Ts really compareable. The BFGs are actually an offroad capable tire while the revos look like a decent street tire that can drive through snow or an occasional drive across a dirt road. I have had BFG A/T & Mud Terrains. They both were great tires and am just a little leary about going with the Revos because of the tread pattern. Any one have any experience with Revos and mud or snow?

*Disclaimer: I have not owned BFGs, I have only observed their performance on the trails while I drove my Revos or ridden short distances in BFG equipped trucks. I am only trying to combine my experiences with the opinions I've heard best I can in an honest way ;) *

Just wanted to throw in my $0.02 here. I disagree. While yes the BFGs are fantastic tires, but you get 90% of BFG offroad performance with the Revos, and probably 125% or more of their onroad performance (while I wouldn't trust Tirerack.com for offroad opinions too much, I bet they're onroad survey results are probably pretty accurate). Yes the BFG is slightly meatier and has better side ridges. From my experiences riding in trucks with both tires and being in groups running both tires, I would sum up that the BFG only has a slight advantage in very loose soil (on hills really) and in mud (maybe deeeeeeeeeep snow too). In snow and wet conditions on the road, I have heard a decent amount of opinions (personal and internet) that the Revos out-perform the BFGs by a significant amount. There were a few good stories on tire rack from users of both tires that can attest to the onroad point.

Enough hearsay & rumor aside though - I have driven my Revos through deep snow/ice and some nasty Texas mud. I put myself into a bad situation once or twice on icy Colorado trails because the Revos let me get too far up the slope with no safe way back down. I've completed some decent trails with them with no bypasses like Poison Spider Mesa in UT. I had a great time in the sand on Poison Spider as well as on the rocks. Down here in Texas I was a little uncomfortable in giant muddy ruts, but that was really my own inexperience with the terrain. I still would agree that the BFGs would be better in the mud due to the tread, by how much? I don't know, but I bet not A/T vs M/T level differences.

Okay, I want to make sure you know I'm not a blind fanboy or anything. All the tires mentioned in this thread are pretty good - or else someone wouldn't have recommended them. I just wanted to make it clear that anytime I have found the limits of my truck and had to take a bypass, it was due to clearance and NOT due to the Revo tires. And this includes all the runs I've done with BFG A/T, M/T, whatever equipped rigs much more capable then mine.

The only exceptions I can count on one hand and involve sheer icy slopes or mud pits too deep for my truck anyhow.

To sum up my diatribe: Yes, the Revos are an offroad tire.They're not ultra hardcore, but they'll get you 95% of places. I feel that for that extra 5% you have to start sacrificing a lot of onroad performance. Sorry for the rant, but I just want people to give a good tire a change :)

Example places the Revos have served me well (7's & 8's):
http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=212
http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=395
http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=424
http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=355
http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=349
http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=356
http://www.4x4trails.net/db_view_trail.php?trailNum=74

[Breathegood]

Here's another vote for the REVO's. I've had two sets of the BFG A/T's in the past and they were great tires. One set went 125k before they started showing steel belts. That being said, I'm on my first set of REVO's at just over 20k and they look practically new. I think the on road performance is leaps and bounds better than the BFG, especially in winter driving conditions, and every bit as good as, if not better than the BFG A/T off road with the exception of side bite. The only drawback I see to the REVO is that it is considerably heavier than the BFG. If tenths of a mpg mean much to you, or if you were upsizing and worried about power this might be an issue.

[BLT2RCKTRD]

Are the Revos and the BFG A/Ts really compareable. The BFGs are actually an offroad capable tire while the revos look like a decent street tire that can drive through snow or an occasional drive across a dirt road. I have had BFG A/T & Mud Terrains. They both were great tires and am just a little leary about going with the Revos because of the tread pattern. Any one have any experience with Revos and mud or snow?
I got my revo's in the stock P265/70R16 size and after having them on for twenty minutes I took them into a little mud, nothing real serious but they walked through in 2wd, definite improvement over the stock bfg rugged trails. I only have 400 miles on them so far but I like them a lot. I had 33 x 12.50 BFG A/T KO's on my half-ton chevy truck and was also impressed with them. They were a very good all around tire, and when I sold the truck they had 35,000 miles on them and showed very very little wear. I will keep you updated with the revo's handling in the snow as it is supposed to snow here next week, but I do know the BFG's are badass in the snow.

[BLT2RCKTRD]

Just another side note, the 33 inch bfg's I had were on a 15x10 inch wheel which flattened the tread patteren out a lot so I was able to run 28 psi all the way around which I think helped them wear better on the heavy chevy.