Johnson Valley Hammers April 28-31

[TRDTacoma]

A group of us from AZ and CA will be running trails at the Hammers the last weekend of April. April 28-May 1.

We'll be camping out, post up if you're interested in going and I'll get you more details.

[jhauffen]

Oh yeh.. I'm interested. We are running the Jamboree out there the weekend b4 but I'm sure we can make it out there for that run also. More details please.

-John

[joe_mauma]

John,
Who else from TTORA is gonna be at the jamboree? I'll be cruising down to it Thurs or Fri, so I'll see ya there.

I also want more info about the Hammers run the following weekend.

[YUNADERIS]

wasnt that trip supposed to be kept quiet as to not attract too many not so equipped trucks?

oh there will be hell to pay :)

[ocdp2000]

wasnt that trip supposed to be kept quiet as to not attract too many not so equipped trucks?

i hope this doesnt happen alot. gay.

[Oppositeboy]

Take your prerunner to the Hammers. You'll understand why. Hardcore runs like that do not need stock or slightly modified trucks holding up the group. There are apparently different trails there for different levels of experience/rigs, but if you look at the people going, it is not going to be a dry lakebed run. Don't get so butt hurt because people don't want to spend their day spotting or yanking people up obsticals.

[Timbuddha]

i hope this doesnt happen alot. gay.


Gay is spending two hours to help some heavy foot jackass fix a broken cv shaft on the waterfall at the end of Aftershock because he didn't listen to us when we said that this run is not ifs friendly. This run was not publicized for that very reason. The trails at the Hammers are for those rigs that run 35s and larger as they are not for the faint of heart. There are no bypasses and there are no crybabies. Sorry for the rant, but the last TTORA run I was on someone was complaining that Holcomb creek was too hard. :lmao:

[Dick Foster]

Tell me more.

[ocdp2000]

Take your prerunner to the Hammers. You'll understand why. Hardcore runs like that do not need stock or slightly modified trucks holding up the group. There are apparently different trails there for different levels of experience/rigs, but if you look at the people going, it is not going to be a dry lakebed run. Don't get so butt hurt because people don't want to spend their day spotting or yanking people up obsticals.

theres a difference between keeping a run "quiet" and making a run closed to unequipped trucks/drivers. keep in mind there are new members everyday that maybe have trucks that would be into it and would miss out. you even said yourself "There are apparently different trails there for different levels of experience/rigs" and its a place i have never heard of. maybe a couple of us would like to know where it is and go out on our own so you arent "spotting or yanking people up obsticals". i just thought it might be cool to hang with everyone there at night after were all done.

[Dick Foster]

Just what is it that makes people think that everyone has some of friggen right to be included in everything whether it pertains to them or not? It's not like it's an official TTORA run or anything. I just don't see why people can't just let the Boy Scouts be for Boys and the Girl Scouts be for Girls. It's just the same kinda screwed up attitude in my opinion. The last time I drove all the way down there to JV, I spent an entire damn day running one trail because of one asshat who had no damn business being on the trail. I was not a happy camper considering the distance, effort and expense involved in my making the trip. If you're so damn butt hurt about it then either spend the time and money to build you shit or just STFU. If anyone here is being gay, it's you. I am getting damn sick and tired of all the whiney asses here lately.

[YUNADERIS]

i hope this doesnt happen alot. gay.
haha..i think the masses have spoken....

[Dick Foster]

Talk to me, biotch.
BTW is your shit running again?

[YUNADERIS]

who are you talking to the DICK?

[Dick Foster]

You, dummy. Last I heard your shit was broke. Never mind on the JV thing. It's during the week looks like.
You should have come to the movie with us too. I told you I would pay.

[YUNADERIS]

who said my shit was broke? are you talking about the wheel bearing? that was fixed a few weeks ago... the inner just worked its way out... i put some fancy ford parts on and its all good.....

i will rent the movie when it comes out:)

thanks for the offer to pay though



i am more pissed about gas prices...fucking ridicolous

[Dick Foster]

I'm glad to hear you got your shit fixed.
The movie had some good shots in it but too much interview and dirt bikes for me. What shots they had of trucks were bitchin though. I want to go down there now. Not to race but just to run the course on vacation or some such. At least there were some other old guys doin the race. Hell, they were even older than me. One was in his seventies.

[AngryAndy]

Just what is it that makes people think that everyone has some of friggen right to be included in everything whether it pertains to them or not? It's not like it's an official TTORA run or anything. I just don't see why people can't just let the Boy Scouts be for Boys and the Girl Scouts be for Girls. It's just the same kinda screwed up attitude in my opinion. The last time I drove all the way down there to JV, I spent an entire damn day running one trail because of one asshat who had no damn business being on the trail. I was not a happy camper considering the distance, effort and expense involved in my making the trip. If you're so damn butt hurt about it then either spend the time and money to build you shit or just STFU. If anyone here is being gay, it's you. I am getting damn sick and tired of all the whiney asses here lately.


Now THERE is the Dick we all know and love....

:saw: Thier nutts off, Dick!...And save the Taintholes for Yunny...

[Dick Foster]

Now don't go makin me grumpy. LOL

[ocdp2000]

Just what is it that makes people think that everyone has some of friggen right to be included in everything whether it pertains to them or not? It's not like it's an official TTORA run or anything. I just don't see why people can't just let the Boy Scouts be for Boys and the Girl Scouts be for Girls. It's just the same kinda screwed up attitude in my opinion. The last time I drove all the way down there to JV, I spent an entire damn day running one trail because of one asshat who had no damn business being on the trail. I was not a happy camper considering the distance, effort and expense involved in my making the trip. If you're so damn butt hurt about it then either spend the time and money to build you shit or just STFU. If anyone here is being gay, it's you. I am getting damn sick and tired of all the whiney asses here lately.

pathetic.....did you even read what i wrote??

[YUNADERIS]

whats pathetic? that you werent invited? or the fact we dont want a bunch of whiny bitch slightly modded tacomas clogging the trail taking pics of some stupid bling leaf spring flex every three minutes?

whoever fucking started this thread is a fucking asshat prick fucker for letting people like you run their mouths and get all pissy because they werent invited...

here is some kleenex and a tampon to wipe your crying eyes and bleeding pussy

[ocdp2000]

you sound like just the kind of guy i want to hang out with. keep hitting refresh on your computer so you can run your mouth some more and show me how badass you are. way to go.

[Dick Foster]

I think maybe you are the pathetic whiney ass here. :xcrybaby:

What is it that makes you think that you should be included in every group whether or not you are wanted?

Just answer the question crybaby or otherwise :stfu: . The problem is, I don't think you have anything that would qualify as a lucid answer. You just want to whine, right?:flipoff1:

[YUNADERIS]

does anyone in Socal know you? Have you been on any runs? Are you just a message board troll?
haha..after reading your profile I know why you are mad. PRERUNNER...haha...sorry..

[YUNADERIS]

he sounds like an elementary school teacher


you ever see him on a run DIck? with his prerunner? thats why he is mad, people left a prerunner out of the loop....sorry buddy...wish there was trails for you to run in JV

[Dick Foster]

No, I just figured him for a NOOB of some sort. There's been such a rash of them lately. But, from what you say it sounds like he's the same type of asshole that ruined my last run down there. There was the same kinda whineing about the AZ Rocks run and I am really getting feed up with it. What is the issue these folks have with just plain old good common sense.

[YUNADERIS]

i agree..i remember the BS at Azrocks.... a prerunner cant go everywhere a 4x4 can..i dont care if you have a winch..winch your ass up a tree and stay there.

this run was planned for just a few buddies to get together..nothing to do with TTORA or whatever other club...it was for FRIENDS...if you werent invited, you werent wanted...plain and simple....
WHiny democraps are pissing me off.... liberal pricks probably would do their best to make every trail open to prerunners..that would be great for trail preservation now wouldnt it?

[Oppositeboy]

theres a difference between keeping a run "quiet" and making a run closed to unequipped trucks/drivers.

Yes there is, and they should be seen as different.

keep in mind there are new members everyday that maybe have trucks that would be into it and would miss out.

Yes, and sometimes I don't want to wheel with new members, members I don't trust on the trail, or I want to keep it a small group.

you even said yourself "There are apparently different trails there for different levels of experience/rigs" and its a place i have never heard of.

But I didn't say they will be running easy trails. Look at the people/rigs going. They are not going out there to pamper people. They are going out there to run The HAMMERS. That is a hardcore trail. What don't you get about it?

maybe a couple of us would like to know where it is and go out on our own so you arent "spotting or yanking people up obsticals". i just thought it might be cool to hang with everyone there at night after were all done.

Ummm, no. You don't get it. Google for the Hammers, go to Pirate and look up the Hammers. Find some official run to go hang out with these people.

[YUNADERIS]

good post Brian...people just dont like being left out.. makes them feel like the world is turning against them.. God complex...white people can be so selfish....F white people :)O

[Oppositeboy]

Whities should be banned.

[elgecko]

Whities should be banned.

In SoCal, that would leave like five guys... :D

[Timbuddha]

This is exactly why I haven't been on a TTORA run in so long. Too much drama for me. Let's freaking wheel, have a few beers and call it a day. If I have to hear anymore whining, I swear I am going to by a Jeep :flipoff2:

:soapbox: You didn't get invited because your rig won't last at the Hammers! Get over it and realize that you can't go everywhere! :soapbox: I am SASed an you are not going to see me running Backdoor or some of there other super hard Hammers trails, because I like sheet metal. Frankly, I don't know you and I don't want someone who I don't know spotting me through the waterfall at the end of Aftershock.

[Crash]

you sound like just the kind of guy i want to hang out with. keep hitting refresh on your computer so you can run your mouth some more and show me how badass you are. way to go.

There are a lot of runs that are planned on this board and other boards as well. Just because it's posted, or you think you can run it because you don't care about body damage, doesn't mean that the rest of the group on the run wants to be held up why you try! Nothing pisses me off more then waiting on the trail because some jackass, (yes jackass) thinks he can make it over that obstacle in his non lifted prerunner. If people are telling you that your truck is not capable, Then it's NOT, Get over it!

[Crash]

This is exactly why I haven't been on a TTORA run in so long. Too much drama for me. Let's freaking wheel, have a few beers and call it a day. If I have to hear anymore whining, I swear I am going to by a Jeep :flipoff2:

:soapbox: You didn't get invited because your rig won't last at the Hammers! Get over it and realize that you can't go everywhere! :soapbox: I am SASed an you are not going to see me running Backdoor or some of there other super hard Hammers trails, because I like sheet metal. Frankly, I don't know you and I don't want someone who I don't know spotting me through the waterfall at the end of Aftershock.


Thank you! :D

[Dick Foster]

:xpopcorn: This is starting to get interesting. Maybe the final cure for whine. I know that is hoping for a lot but one can always hope.

[YUNADERIS]

IP info is being tabulated and we will have the culprit shortly


weeeeeee

dick...pass the fucking popcorn already you stingy asshat :P

[Crash]

:xpopcorn: This is starting to get interesting. Maybe the final cure for whine. I know that is hoping for a lot but one can always hope.

I'm just going to start blasting nuts with my Robolaser Nut Blaster 5100!!! Some people say I can't ban people for being whiny bitches. I disagree!!!

[Dick Foster]

Go ahead and kirrrr them, Dan. Perhaps just add a little tag to their siq showing their perpetual propensity to whine or something is in order. It can only be added and removed by mods. After a suitable period of non whining posts, it could be removed. In the same vein, maybe you should add something to mine and Corey's to warn people about us. How about a flaming bloody axe, guillotine on fire or something along those lines? Oh yeah, Andy too, I don't want to leave him out. LOL

[Dick Foster]

I ate it all already. I was hungry.

[Crash]

Go ahead and kirrrr them, Dan. Perhaps just add a little tag to their siq showing their perpetual propensity to whine or something is in order. It can only be added and removed by mods. After a suitable period of non whining posts, it could be removed. In the same vein, maybe you should add something to mine and Corey's to warn people about us. How about a flaming bloody axe, guillotine on fire or something along those lines? Oh yeah, Andy too, I don't want to leave him out. LOL

Man I wish I could, But I just don't have the time to tag every whiny noobie on this board. Come to think of it, I don't think anybody does!! There are just too many. :confused:

[Dick Foster]

Yeah, I suppose it's asking a lot, huh?
Hey wait a minute! You're not whineing about your mod duties are you?

[Crash]

Yeah, I suppose it's asking a lot, huh?
Hey wait a minute! You're not whineing about your mod duties are you?

No I'm not.

[mudferret]

you sound like just the kind of guy i want to hang out with. keep hitting refresh on your computer so you can run your mouth some more and show me how badass you are. way to go.
Some runs should be reserved for the more heavily modified/equipped rigs. I liked to wheel hard with what I had, but sometimes what I had wasn't enough. If I wanted to be part of the action I'd ride shotgun and pull winch line for a day.

Sometimes disclaimers aren't enough to keep away rigs that would make more work for other people right from the get go. Not to say, however, that every single run should cater itself to truck x or truck y.

[Dick Foster]

Better not be. LOL

[YUNADERIS]

this isnt even an official fucking run..this has nothing to do with ttora....

some dumbfuck loose lipped nancy boy found out about the run and posted about it and shit started when other loose lipped nancy boys started to cry and bleed out their wheeping vagina's :)



disclaimers arent needed...there is no X and Y in wheeling... just T and A

[mudferret]

...T and A

Can I ride shotgun? :eek:

[YUNADERIS]

of course my northern brother..you are all welcome here....:)

[cb77DEMELLO]

Yeah, I suppose it's asking a lot, huh?
Hey wait a minute! You're not whineing about your mod duties are you?

So does this mean i can't bring my stock 05 to run the hammers? I have the off-road package?

[YUNADERIS]

do you have demello sliders? you have to have demello sliders to run with us :)

[DesertTRD]

i hope this doesnt happen alot. gay.
yea dumbass because your stupid ass prerunner can handle this

http://4wheeloffroad.com/eventcoverage/p25058_image_large.jpg

grow up, i didnt get an invite, but do i care no... reason why, because I know the hammers eat trucks alive.

[Dick Foster]

Bring it bitch. Lets see how much of it is left at the end. LOL

[CronusTRD]

Yell at Joe Mauma

His IP matches TRDTacoma

[cb77DEMELLO]

do you have demello sliders? you have to have demello sliders to run with us :)

No sorry not yet they are too exspensive! I spent 30k on a truck but 500 is too much to protect it! I'm going to cancel my insurance also cause it's allot of money too and I don't think I will hit anyone?

[ShowStop]

Sometimes disclaimers aren't enough to keep away rigs that would make more work for other people right from the get go. Not to say, however, that every single run should cater itself to truck x or truck y.
One of the So-Cal runs from last year was listed as a 4x4 trail and when we grouped up I asked if everybody was 4wd. We drive to the trailhead and just before we hit the trail, I find out we have a n00b driver with a prerunner. We discussed it and decided to let him stay, and a few people in the group would help the truck through the tough spots. Everything went fine, but those few helpful drivers would have enjoyed the day more if they didn't have to tug the prerunner a few times.

[YUNADERIS]

thanks for checking Mike....

[jhauffen]

John,
Who else from TTORA is gonna be at the jamboree? I'll be cruising down to it Thurs or Fri, so I'll see ya there.

I also want more info about the Hammers run the following weekend.


Check the California board for more info.. I'm not exactly sure who all is going.

-John

[jhauffen]

Wow you guys are animals.. I don't have Demello sliders :( Does that mean I cant go??

-John

[YUNADERIS]

Wow you guys are animals.. I don't have Demello sliders :( Does that mean I cant go??

-John
No John...you cant go....demello sliders are a pre requisite :P

[jhauffen]

Damn.. I'll have to order me a set ASAP

-John

[Dick Foster]

With the exception of stainless sliders. However, no weld-on sliders of any design or constructed from any material shall be considered as eligible. All sliders must be of the bolt-on variety to be considered acceptable. In other words, this is a DeMello bolt-on slider only run with the exception of stainless bolt-on sliders. LOL

[cb77DEMELLO]

Damn.. I'll have to order me a set ASAP

-John

I'm waiting by the phone.

[cb77DEMELLO]

With the exception of stainless sliders. However, no weld-on sliders of any design or constructed from any material shall be considered as eligible. All sliders must be of the bolt-on variety to be considered acceptable. In other words, this is a DeMello bolt-on slider only run with the exception of stainless bolt-on sliders. LOL

Shit that means I can't go! ..lol. Take me off the list then!

[jhauffen]

Man it costs alot to run with the hard core guys. Are there any other pre reguisites I should know about??

-John

[Captkirkyota]

Man it costs alot to run with the hard core guys. Are there any other pre reguisites I should know about??

-John

YES it is an optima battery only run as well! :rofl: :D

[Dick Foster]

Damn. Oh well I probably need a new battery anyway.

[mudferret]

One of the So-Cal runs from last year was listed as a 4x4 trail and when we grouped up I asked if everybody was 4wd. We drive to the trailhead and just before we hit the trail, I find out we have a n00b driver with a prerunner. We discussed it and decided to let him stay, and a few people in the group would help the truck through the tough spots. Everything went fine, but those few helpful drivers would have enjoyed the day more if they didn't have to tug the prerunner a few times.

I've been helped along a few times, and helped others along a few times. Just sucks when people get in over thier head and stress other people's vehicles more than they should and/or leave people standing around waiting. Steve and I went on a run a while back with an ill equipped rig that didn't even have tow points, or a strap. Was an internet dude. Hopefully he at least learned from the experience, and luckily we didn't have to stress our trucks more than to be expected.

[AngryAndy]

Go ahead and kirrrr them, Dan... Oh yeah, Andy too, I don't want to leave him out. LOL


How did I get involved in all this???


Just cause I am ANGRY???

If anybody knows where my "ANGRY" lablel got attached....It was because....



I'm not going there, if someone wants to fill it in go right ahead; I get angry just re-thinking about it all....that and my ex-wife REALLY still piss me off...

[jhauffen]

I've got an optima so I guess I'm half way there.

-John

[Captkirkyota]

I've got an optima so I guess I'm half way there.

-John
Sounds as if you may be golden then, see you there.

[Darwalk]

I wanna go too!! I have Donahoe in front, will that help me get through or should I get some 2.5" spacers also? :p The guy you people were running over with your SASes left to get some midol I think. Wow you all are meanies not letting a prerunner to a non event.

[BlingTaco]

Hey, I just rented an awd subu....can I go can I go....pleeeez :flipoff1:

[Dick Foster]

Hey if they let you take yours, then I'm bring my wife's Forrester down there. Is yours tubo too?

[BlingTaco]

Hey if they let you take yours, then I'm bring my wife's Forrester down there. Is yours tubo too?

Hey ..........I got tubo, its something like 27 horse baby!!

[Dick Foster]

Think again. Those little four poppers are putting out something like 300 turbo charged intercooled ponies. Ours has got some pep and I haven't even started messin with it yet. A friend of mine has a WRX and it will flat sick you back in the seat if you romp on it.

[Crash]

Think again. Those little four poppers are putting out something like 300 turbo charged intercooled ponies. Ours has got some pep and I haven't even started messin with it yet. A friend of mine has a WRX and it will flat sick you back in the seat if you romp on it.


The STi is just sick!!! A guy here at work has one and it will put you back in your seat!

[BlingTaco]

well, if it has that many ponies, then I'm bringing it to JV cuz I can just power my way through, lift or not, right??

[Dick Foster]

Yeah and create yourself a whole nuther universe of breakage. LOL

[jhauffen]

Well I will be up there for those in AZ that are going. I'd like to meet you AZ guys cause I didn't get a chance to go to AZ rocks. E-mail me some info if possible. I am more than equipt to run all trails up there and can find most all the trails are in the dark. Let me know. :D

-John