House Of Wrenching - Open This Weekend Oct 27th & 28th

[Lysmachia]

Ok guys., Lets do some more wrenching. (Assuming the weather will hold) The reality is that one of the days troy and I do have to work on house stuff, but the garage is free for anyone who needs to use it.

If we were to try and pick one day which day would be better? Sat the 27th or Sun the 28th?

We will try and get troy's rear diff back in assuming we have all the parts by then.

Who else has a one day job they need help with?

Plus I'm gonna carve a punkin'!

[WVUgeoROK]

Hey Mols, I need to replace my brakes and rotors all around (I think) and would like to overhaul the 4x assembly on the fronts while everything is taken apart. I have never done it before on a 4R and would need some coaching - I can turn a wrench but am no mechanic. This a one-day job or somethign a little longer timeframe? I would bring up a BIG pumpkin and some beers....

[TowerRigger]

Can you fit a dana 70 in the back of a 4runner???
Sorry big pumpkin joke.

[fjcruzer]

Hey Mols, I need to replace my brakes and rotors all around (I think) and would like to overhaul the 4x assembly on the fronts while everything is taken apart. I have never done it before on a 4R and would need some coaching - I can turn a wrench but am no mechanic. This a one-day job or somethign a little longer timeframe? I would bring up a BIG pumpkin and some beers....

Sunday, assuming we aren't neck deep in new house stuff!

I did the brakes and rotors on my wife's Saab in about 4 hours by myself, so I can only imagine Toyota would be easier.

My to-do list right now:

1. Removing and hammering the damn belly plate so I don't have to listen to the exhaust cross-over pipe rattling against it at idle :mad: That and figure out a way to keep it from doing it again in the future.

2. Relocate the air tank underneath the ass-end to keep the tailpipe from rattling against it (do you see a theme here...:rolleyes: ) Might also relocate the compressor in the engine compartment, but other engine mods will determine that (shut up March!)

3. Replace a cross-threaded bolt on the front skid plate.

4. Re-invent the mounting for the front edge of the bumper skid plate.

5. Try to come up with a quick-disconnect for the front sway bar (the passenger link bent again in Moab...) or just take the sway bar out and learn to live with(out) it.

6. Mock-up exo for front and rear quarters.

7. Need to change the oil/filter, clean/swap out the air filter, cabin filter.

All in a days work, right :)

[hanksyota]

i might be able to make it sunday afternoon. i think i'll be in estes this weekend staying with some friends at their cabin. no work to do on the truck, i cant even drive it, but shelbs and i might come up and carve pumpkins.

[devinsixtyseven]

So...I was thinking that a pumpkin could be carved very, very quickly with a sawzall, air saw, angle grinder, corded uber drill and some hole saws, and other handy household tools of the common 'wheeler.

Ace Hardware has CHEAP! pumpkins right now, decent sizes...this is the one in Lafayette BTW.

Other than the rear brakes, which I must address at my place, I need to sort out a compressor problem and drop the front diff. Again, all possible at my place, but I'd be interested in coming up just to carve some pumpkins with garage tools :p. I have a body saw but no air btw.

Week and a half til I order LT :D.

[Wildturkee]

BTW I now have a 20 gallon air tank...has a couple pin holes in the bottom but will pressure up to 90# fast...mabee if there is any one who welds that can bring the welder they can fix it, please?...also have a 15 gallon compressure that is slow...little pump but dont leak and works. I also have plenty of air tools. if there is a welder going to be there Sunday pencil me in for welded spiders in the rear. Thats all Folks, back to your normal life now.

[Lysmachia]

So looks like we are leaning towards a sunday H.O.W. day which is good because we need saturday to get troy's rig outta the way... LOL Let me see if we can secure the welder.

Oh and I saw those pumpkins. $5 for big ones!

[WVUgeoROK]

WOW - this sounds like a wrenching mele to me.

[Lysmachia]

And... thanks to VWfast60... we now have a total of 10 (count em) 10 jackstands... so we could in theory get a bunch done. Still need to check with troy about a welder...

[RedRunnertc]

Front brakes can be done in a couple hours, including the wheel bearings.

I haven't ever done rear drums/shoes, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

[Quick Draw]

Hmmm....can anybody swap my front diff gears? I'm really not looking forward to the $400 shops want....

[RedRunnertc]

We should have people and the tools there since we're doing my rear gears...

[devinsixtyseven]

Molly if you're able to drop of the hammer drill, you can also check out the welder. Looks like we can make it Sunday, whether my brakes are sorted or not, so I can bring the Drill Dr, a 220V welder and 20# CO2 bottle, and the siping tool if you don't pick it up earlier.

Also got an uber drill, super sawzall, extra barebones lid, couple pairs of welding gloves and some other stuff. Maybe Sunday would be a good time to start on my ebrake mounts.

[Quick Draw]

We should have people and the tools there since we're doing my rear gears...

Except my front diff takes that special dial indicator....Does anybody have one? Can somebody get me a part # for that dial indicator? It's for the clamshell style front diff on Tacomas... Maybe I will buy one, and donate it to HOW, if somebody can do it? Who are your gear guys for this weekend, anyway?

[RedRunnertc]

Dude - I run a measurement lab. I have a wicked set of tools, we can fix it! LOL

[Quick Draw]

10-4, I'll be there Sunday... Should I bring my floor jack, and jackstands? Sounds like yours might be tied up.... Could you PM me your address?

[RedRunnertc]

We still have at least one complete set of jackstands and 2 floor jacks, so we should be OK

[00regcab]

Front brakes can be done in a couple hours, including the wheel bearings.

I haven't ever done rear drums/shoes, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

jeremy and i had yours apart on that one side in less then 20 minutes, its not that hard from there... usually the hardest part is getting the damn drum off, and then getting everything adjusted.

Rear shouldnt be more then an hour and half, two hours.

I'm down to come help out sunday if im not hung over lol

Kyle, we can meet up and you can follow me up if you want?

As long as you're not planning on going at the ass-crack of dawn (aka before 9 lol)

[Quick Draw]

Lol....sure, we can do that, Nate. Where should we meet? Actually I don't know when everything is supposed to start, but I was thinking somewhere between 9 and 10..

[00regcab]

I think we could meet about 10:30 on highway 7 and i25, just to the east side of i25 theres a circuit city and such. We'll meet there.

[x8lopez8x]

Has anyone here replaced a clutch before? timing belt?

[Lysmachia]

Yes on the clutch. Pulling the pilot bearing is a BITCH. The bearing puller breaks all the time. Might need to bone up on the "newspaper method!"

BTW looks like the HOW will be open both days.... I'd love to have a pumpkin carving night of it saturday...

So for those of you that come. bring tools, and bring beer.. and maybe a munchie to share. ;)

No wrenching starts before 10:00 though... I need my beauty rest. LOL

[WVUgeoROK]

Does anybody have the brake tools for the rears? - or should i pick up a set?

[RedRunnertc]

Has anyone here replaced a clutch before? timing belt?

Yes to both, these jobs are kinda time consuming - might want to set up a specific appointment at the HOW for them. Clutch can be done in a day if everything goes well. Timing belt is 2-4 hrs IIRC - been a while since I did mine.

Clutch shouldn't be too bad on yours since it's "only" a 2001. As a matter of fact, it shouldn't be worn out yet, but if it is, it is.

A guy I work with has a tranny jack - makes it a lot easier and safer.

[larc68]

Does anybody have the brake tools for the rears? - or should i pick up a set?

buy the dam tools you cheap ass. im sure you can swing 10-20 dollars or so...

[WVUgeoROK]

Not everybodys Daddy has a nice shop with a car lift to work in...my ass will be broke after i buy all the parts now...

[march2304]

2. Relocate the air tank underneath the ass-end to keep the tailpipe from rattling against it (do you see a theme here...:rolleyes: ) Might also relocate the compressor in the engine compartment, but other engine mods will determine that (shut up March!)



LOL hey now i dont have any idea what you are talking about. :rolleyes:

I dont think i will be able to make it. i have to work this weekend. Im trying to get the days off but hey ya never know.

I have a crapload to do but it mostly depend on the monay situation. (quiet Eric) Need to:

Put in my rear locker.

Mount rear Firestick,

Install new rock lights.

MOST importantly measure and do mock up for exo.

Install front and rear bumpers.

Mount compressor and CO2 tank

fun fun :saw:

[fjcruzer]

I have NO idea what Brandon's talking about :rolleyes:

:D

I wonder if we should have an exo-fest some other time, sounds like there are three of us who need to do it, but there's no rush.

Looks like I'll be moving cabinets from Denver to Denver Sunday. Thank Dog too since I'm certainly not getting enough of moving in MN! I still don't know where the hell we're going to put them though...

[spindleshanks]

I'll be there Sunday, mostly to chill, and to pitch in if there's room. I'd like to have somebody check out my skid mount and help me problem solve it. It might be a different job for a different day, but I could use some direction.

Does anybody need a brand new steel winchline? It came stock with my Warn and I'll sell it cheap. I'll bring it along Sunday. I also have a pair of ventvisors for the front windows of a Tacoma and one of the two pieces that cover the ext cab windows.

[march2304]

I have NO idea what Brandon's talking about :rolleyes:

:D

I wonder if we should have an exo-fest some other time, sounds like there are three of us who need to do it, but there's no rush.



SURE you dont. :lmao:

Yeah an exo fest sounds like a good idea. Ill need some help with that being that i havent done anything like that before. :welder:

[larc68]

Not everybodys Daddy has a nice shop with a car lift to work in...my ass will be broke after i buy all the parts now...

thats the best you can do...youve seen my garage floor, i do all my work where i live. but it is nice the pops has the lift.

[fjcruzer]

I'll be there Sunday, mostly to chill, and to pitch in if there's room. I'd like to have somebody check out my skid mount and help me problem solve it. It might be a different job for a different day, but I could use some direction.

Does anybody need a brand new steel winchline? It came stock with my Warn and I'll sell it cheap. I'll bring it along Sunday. I also have a pair of ventvisors for the front windows of a Tacoma and one of the two pieces that cover the ext cab windows.

I kept my steel winchline as a spare, but need to also rig it to be used as an extension... Guess I'll add that to the list...

[Lysmachia]

Exo planning will be anothe H.O.W day because I need to do it, too. We'll do it in november befroe we organize our steel buy with Hawk.

We will NOT have the tranny jack this weekend, so any clutch work... well either get a tranny jack or you'll have to wait.

Looks like we will have a welder at some point.

Troy's rig is gonna be in the damned garage the whole time. His parts do not come in till Monday. *GRRR* But we have the driveway and other bay... so we should be fine.

Don;t come before 10:00 ;)

See ya'll sat, sunday, or both.

Bring beer. LOL!

[AxleIke]

Is anyone scheduled for Sat, or not? I may be making a sojourn. We'll see.

[devinsixtyseven]

Welder definitely gonna be there Sunday. Maybe Saturday but I think if we come Saturday it's just gonna be in the evening for drinkin' and bullshittin' and punkin carvin'.

[RedRunnertc]

I'll be working on my truck, Isaac - you're welcome to come over and I can help with your stuff.

[Lysmachia]

Dude... Isaac with ALL the stuff you've helped us with.... I'll bump troy's chit to get yours done!

[AxleIke]

Hmm. That could work out fine. I don't need too much assistance. Just an extra set of hands when pulling and replacing the front diff. That and a floor jack. Crossing my fingers this will take only a couple hours. If I have time, I'll also rebuild my hubs. Looks like good weather, so I can almost surely do this on the street. Driveway won't work as it's too steep.

[Jacket]

I'd like to swing by to provide extra hands (and learn a few things), but I've got a boat-load of things to do 'round my own house. I know one day I'll need some help, so I should be offering up when I can....oh well.

[AxleIke]

No go on the morrow=no parts. :(

Thanks though!

[RedRunnertc]

Bummer! Now I won't be motivated to work on my truck!

[Wildturkee]

coll welder there on sunday, well il be there with the compressure to get it fixed...need pin holes welded on tank...

[march2304]

Stuck in Aspen working :mad: cant make it all. Have fun.

[ziggy428]

Sounds like you all have a party going tomorrow. Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me out on this. I need to relocate my shocks because they are too long and are hitting the springs. http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc43/zeke10148/DSCF5075.jpg
Looks like I need to weld on some new shock mounts. Can anyone help me out with this? Much thanks!

Also need to put in a battery box, paint the frame, and figure out if my truck is leaking oil from the main or the dorks at Jiffy lube overfilled it again. [steam cleaning] Priority is the shocks, I can do most the other stuff at my place. More than happy to help other people out or bring some some tools and :xbeer3: 's.

My batterys leaking again with all the bouncing. :mad:
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc43/zeke10148/DSCF5073.jpg

[spindleshanks]

Mine used to rub, too. But if you switch to a monotube shock, you'll eliminate the issue.
See, twin tube shocks have a larger diameter, because they're actually two tubes, one inside the other. They also have a big, bulky cover over the piston rod, with an even larger diameter. Looks like this is the part that's contacting in your situation.
With a KYB or a Bilstein, you have a monotube design, which is narrower, and won't contact the leafs. My KYBs have a rubber boot covering the piston rod, rather than a hard metal or plastic sleeve, and there is no contact with the leaf springs.

[ziggy428]

Twin tube (no sleeve) probably doesn't help. My shocks run 14" of travel when fully extended so the springs can sway from side to side more. (Pro-comp ES 9000 compressed: 18" Extended: 32") According to Off Road Solutions if you're going to use 12-14" travel shocks you need to move the mounts inward so the shock and spring don't hit. They sell mounts and tabs and stuff. What do you think?

[spindleshanks]

If you feel like doing some fabrication, then go for it. It's probably a good idea if there's a kit readily available.
I'm not sure I totally understand the situation:
When the axle is fully extended downward, the edge of the leaf pack contacts the shock absorber's upper cover? I guess I'd have to see it happen to be able to visualize it.
On my truck, there was rubbing when the OME twin tubes contacted the leaf pack at full articulation. It was worse on the passenger side. My new monotube shocks are just slightly more narrow, so there is no contact. If I had chosen Bilsteins or the other model of KYB monotubes (GR2) they would be even skinnier still.
Do you have aftermarket leafs or shackles that allow more articulation than stock?

[ziggy428]

I had to replace my springs and got a pair of 57" long Alcans. The 62" long Deaver springs have 16-18" of travel if that gives you any idea. I'd be kinda into making something, ORS has some kind of bar you can weld in with mounts. Its basically just a tube with bolts going out of it though. The problem doesn't happen when both sides go full down its only when one side is stuffed and the other is fully extended. I think that makes the leaf twist inward.

[RedRunnertc]

You mean something like this?

http://www.budbuilt.com/P5140022.jpg
http://www.budbuilt.com/new/shock_mounts.html

[devinsixtyseven]

Molly & Troy et al...

Any other items needed for tomorrow? Otherwise all I was planning to bring was the welder & kit, plus drill & tap etc. for Spindleshanks. Will check thread in AM before we head up.

-Sean

[Lysmachia]

Nope that should be fine. If any of you have some scrap metal bring that as we might need it with he welder.

Here is what we did today:

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce06b3127ccebef4a78c81b700000026108AbNWLJszZOA

Changed Towerrigger's CV's and Ball Joints, then Did Simon (UVWGEOROC) Sp? All his brakes. Though his ebrake cable broke so we'll have to fix that another time...

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce06b3127ccebef4a713001800000026108AbNWLJszZOA

Becca bundled up... LOL
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce06b3127ccebef4a6d6c17500000025108AbNWLJszZOA

And then we got the propane heater going and she was toasty ;)

Then we finished up Kyle's stuff under the lights!
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce06b3127ccebef4a594009e00000026108AbNWLJszZOA

Unfortunately I pulled something awful in my neck this morning. I have been in serious pain most of the day. (I have a traction device I have to keep using) I have called a Dr. on call at my orthopedist and they told me if that pain gets any worse I might have to go to the ER if I can't stand it. (All I need is to have them prescribe me some muscle relaxant or pain med - GAH!) I am loaded up on advil... but hopefully I will sleep tonight... But the wrench fest is on for tomorrow... even if I have to lie down a lot... :D (So I prolly will not be carving any pumpkins tomorrow.. but we will see)

Oh and if any of you want a brew you gotta bring it since I did not get out today and get any. Sorry - My neck was too jacked up to drive!

[Quick Draw]

Well I sure hope you really do have something to set the backlash on my front diff, Troy... It seems that nobody has that thing....and if you have it, or something that will work, I will be suprised... I guess it's worth a shot...

[Lysmachia]

Troy has to run by his work to get it but he does have one....

[ziggy428]

You mean something like this?

http://www.budbuilt.com/P5140022.jpg
http://www.budbuilt.com/new/shock_mounts.html

Exacta-mundo...I kinda like those better, easier to install and whatnot. I think I'm going to look into it and see about getting the cross member put in. (Might need to be welded, good project for Thanksgiving break) Thanks. Let me know if you guys ever need a hand welding, wrenching, whatever.

[devinsixtyseven]

w00+s to the HOW :D...great meeting you guys finally. Y'all that didn't make it missed some kickass jambalaya.

So the compressor problem seems to be an air leak now. I had it on most of the way home, it would cycle every few minutes...this should be easier than figuring out what the hell was up with the other solenoid :p.

[TowerRigger]

How bout some pics Molls Pleeeeeeaze.:D

[Lysmachia]

Well here you go!

All the pics are here: http://cottora.shutterfly.com/action/?a=8AbNWLJszZOGe6

Some highlights of day 2 :D

Tearing in to Devin67's Rig (Shawn) Group effort!
http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b7ce11b3127cce985487bc234000000027108AbNWLJszZOA

Official HOW Dawg.... "Scup"
http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b7ce11b3127cce985487b9a27500000027108AbNWLJszZOA

Testing the rear locker
http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b7ce11b3127cce985487a3a26f00000027108AbNWLJszZOA

Looking under the Yaris's skirt! (Oil change) (Kyle and Becca)
http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b7ce11b3127cce985487a1a26d00000027108AbNWLJszZOA

Wrenching on Kyle (Quickdraw's) Rig
http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b7ce11b3127cce985487afa26300000027108AbNWLJszZOA

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce11b3127ccebe9df4db232800000026108AbNWLJszZOA

Shawn and Katie
http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procgserv/47b7ce11b3127cce985487ada26100000027108AbNWLJszZOA

Jeremy and Molly's Punkin' "Fingers" (electric powered even!)
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce11b3127ccebe9df5fce2a700000026108AbNWLJszZOA

The HOW Punkin'
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce11b3127ccebe9d0f92638400000026108AbNWLJszZOA

More Punkin pics here on the Punkin' thread!
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83798 :D

[fjcruzer]

Well documented! Sorry I missed you folks, but I had WAY more fun hauling kitchen cabinets through downtown Denver!

[hanksyota]

im missing all of the fun shit in life because this god damn ankle of mine. shit. only a few weeks left...

[Quick Draw]

Lol nice shot of my underwear there.... I was having such terrible wardrobe malfunctions all day...

These pictures almost make me sad, too... But I will see it as good times past as soon as that truck is in my own driveway.

[Lysmachia]

Henry - we missed your antics too.... We were all wondering WWHD? (Especially with an automated punkin' finger???)

[TowerRigger]

We love you Henry!... Ahem, come back soon.

[hanksyota]

Henry - we missed your antics too.... We were all wondering WWHD? (Especially with an automated punkin' finger???)

oh man, that couldve been bad. haha. i dont even know what i'd do.

We love you Henry!... Ahem, come back soon.

thanks kyle. haha. i will be back just as soon as i can. i figured once the doctor clears me to put weight back down on it, i will sit in my truck and push the clutch pedal back and forth to get used to it and build back the muscle memory. i still cant believe it happened a month ago. ive been crutchin for 30 days now. sheesh. i go in on Nov 15th to get this cast off. then i either get a 2 week semi weight bearing transitional boot. or a CAM boot, the normal removable walking boots. hopefully i will get the walking boot, but only time will tell. i'll keep you posted, and as soon as i can, i'll be back in the saddle.