37's..or 40's

[KRYPTO(dale)]

got a diamond with longfields in front.still stock axel in rear.
2.7 motor.
whats your pick?

[onelastcast]

Anything bigger than 39s is not recommend with Longfields. I've read they still last but Lonfield will not garantee them if they break with anything bigger.

GL!

[Heatstroke]

40's would definately be interesting with a stock rear, but who cares. Get the 40's and start saving for the new axle you're going to need.

[muddemon_06]

got a diamond with longfields in front.still stock axel in rear.
2.7 motor.
whats your pick?

I'm interested in this too...I'm planning the 2.7 with duals, and toyota housing with stock 4.10's and longfields in the buggy. I want to run the upcoming 40" LTB's on it since my 37 Iroks are a little bald. Everything I have read suggests that the longs will hold up with 40's. I read where Wayne Kidder the driver from Up and Over Racing said he's been running the same longfield joints for the past three seasons pushing 40" Competition Creepy Crawlers. Now I believe he's running 37" baja claws.

[roctaco]

i'd say 40's. i'd like to hear feedback on how the 2.7 handles them. what gears are you gonna run if you go 40's? Would like to know if you can hit freeway speeds, etc. good luck.

[Kaistie]

40's, 4sure!

[hytenor]

got a diamond with longfields in front.still stock axel in rear.
2.7 motor.
whats your pick?

35s with the 2.7...but I sure wouldn't go any taller than a 37. The problem isn't on the trail...its getting to the trailhead since the lowest gearing you can run is 5.29 with the stock rear. If you change the rear you will have more options...depending on what front diff you wound up with.

I'm running 5.29s and the lack of power has convinced me that had I known I was going this route from the original purchase of the truck I would have gotten the 3.4.

[Big-A]

35s with the 2.7...but I sure wouldn't go any taller than a 37. The problem isn't on the trail...its getting to the trailhead since the lowest gearing you can run is 5.29 with the stock rear. If you change the rear you will have more options...depending on what front diff you wound up with.

I'm running 5.29s and the lack of power has convinced me that had I known I was going this route from the original purchase of the truck I would have gotten the 3.4.

Time for an engine swap in the very near future ;)

[KRYPTO(dale)]

35s with the 2.7...but I sure wouldn't go any taller than a 37. The problem isn't on the trail...its getting to the trailhead since the lowest gearing you can run is 5.29 with the stock rear. If you change the rear you will have more options...depending on what front diff you wound up with.

I'm running 5.29s and the lack of power has convinced me that had I known I was going this route from the original purchase of the truck I would have gotten the 3.4.
Chris! howzitgoing.
anyhow, this truck is pretty much gonna be a trail beater.so high performance isnt a consideration.

[Bear]

my 37"s+5.29's+3.4+S/C=:kewl: :D

I couldn't imagine driving a stock 2.7, much less with anything over 33's.

but riding around on 40's, it would be a turtle for sure, and judging by the speculation that toyota axles are only as strong as Dana 44's, then I would not want to risk running 40's on it.

I always felt if you were going to run anything larger than 37s", you should swap out axles to 1 ton's.

[ksp04031]

***respectfully beginning hijack***
I've been doing the same research lately. Mini truck axles, Longs and 5.29's. I think I'm going with 37's (ditching my 35's) Is the problem going to be the axle shafts breaking or just lack of highway driveability? It's a trail truck so highway driving isn't a concern. Sorry for the quick hijack.
***end hijack***

[Mossyrocks]

Im running 37s with 4.88s on an automatic/3.4 and its perfect. I cant imagine needing lower than 5.29s. besides 5.29s have a thin pinion and you dont want that to be the weak link.

[ksp04031]

I think 37's should work pretty well for me. I'm running a 22re and my 35's aren't a problem at all, even on the highway

[hytenor]

Chris! howzitgoing.
anyhow, this truck is pretty much gonna be a trail beater.so high performance isnt a consideration.

got the crawler yet? If you go big, you'll need it.

hey, if you are up and around...working on your rig...are you excepting visitors? ;)

[hytenor]

I think 37's should work pretty well for me. I'm running a 22re and my 35's aren't a problem at all, even on the highway

yea, I'm starting to think the damn 22rs are better equiped then the newer 2.7s...
I got somewhat embarrased by a guy in a early runner with 5.29s/37s...I was on 35s/4.88s and couldn't keep up with him on hills...pathetic...:rolleyes:

[hytenor]

Time for an engine swap in the very near future ;)

never gonna happen...35s will be the biggest tire I ever go with. Rubicon was boring (open diffs)...Dusy was something of a challenge but only one spot...why go bigger?

[muddemon_06]

yea, I'm starting to think the damn 22rs are better equiped then the newer 2.7s...
I got somewhat embarrased by a guy in a early runner with 5.29s/37s...I was on 35s/4.88s and couldn't keep up with him on hills...pathetic...:rolleyes:

I wouldn't go as far as say they are better equipped, that's been proven over and over. Are the w56's lower geared than the 59? For him to be running away from you he would have had to have some decent engine mods..wouldn't you think?

[FAUX X 4]

Go with the 40's....... My little 4-banger takes it like a champ...... it's no race car, but it gets up and moves pretty good on the street. :D

[BOVADS]

FAUX X 4.... Go with the 40's....... My little 4-banger takes it like a champ...... it's no race car, but it gets up and moves pretty good on the street.

you remeber that far back:rolleyes:
capt jack-stand

[FAUX X 4]

you remeber that far back:rolleyes:
capt jack-stand
:rolleyes: good one! :flipoff4:

[hytenor]

Go with the 40's....... My little 4-banger takes it like a champ...... it's no race car, but it gets up and moves pretty good on the street. :D

you don't live at 4000' ;)


Jeff drives his on the street (not very often) in low range just to be able to move :p He doesn't even bother with hi-range
3.4 SC....and 44s.

[KRYPTO(dale)]

hmm...lowrange 3,4,5,shift to hirange 1,2.
5speed again!;)

[hytenor]

hmm...lowrange 3,4,5,shift to hirange 1,2.
5speed again!;)

exactly ;)

so....whatcha doin next week? I might be able to wander up to the Groveland area...

[KRYPTO(dale)]

exactly ;)

so....whatcha doin next week? I might be able to wander up to the Groveland area...
i'll be around.be glad to see you!

[ksp04031]

[QUOTE=hytenor;1149943]you don't live at 4000' ;)QUOTE]

Try 5280 feet:D

[Wes]

I don't mind 35's and 4.30s- but then again, I didn't get confused during my race car build and end up with a 4wd truck...

[Revivalist]

I'm running 39.5" Iroks with 5.29s and a 3.4L.

The only engine/performance mods would be the volant intake and the Magnaflow exhaust. I have the URD fuel-ratio calibrator but I never got around to installing it . . .

Anyhow, I am still happy with the power. It's not quite as peppy as it was when it was stock but it's not bad at all, especially considering it's a d-cab with heavy bumpers, a winch, and dual cases. I've probably easily added 500-600lbs.

But the only time I feel it get bogged down is on really steep hills (like the 4-lanes going up to Shaver Lake or the Grapevine between northern and southern CA). I can keep up with other rigs but I have to really lean on the gas and hold the RPMs high. I would rather take my time and save the gas. :rolleyes:

As far as breakage, I've cracked a knuckle, damaged a rear axle housing, and chipped a ring gear. All as the result of attempting the Dusy Ershim. But I was driving harder than I should have. . . . The Longfields have held up just fine. I've also broken a stock rear axle but that was on 37" MT/Rs. Nevertheless, I went chromoly in the rear as well to help prevent that from repeating.

By the way, concerning the whole issue with the 5.29s being weaker than the 4.88s, my understanding is that this was a thing of the past. Ring & pinions are being made strong enough now that even with the smaller teeth 5.29s are holding up as well as 4.88s.

[hytenor]

[QUOTE=hytenor;1149943]you don't live at 4000' ;)QUOTE]

Try 5280 feet:D

hmm, sounds like Denver ;)

[ksp04031]

you are correct.

[dstrbdone]

It is a never ending mod. Just get the bigger tires now instead of buying the 37's, running them for a couple months. Seeing another truck on 4D's and then getting penis envy causing you to sell the 37's at a loss and scraping for enough money to buy 4D's.

[nomayota]

ive been running my 96 3rz taco with 4.88's and 39.5" iroks for just about a year now, i drive it too and from every trail up all the hills. it still pulls any hill way better than all the 22re guys I run with that have 5.29s and 37's or 35's. I have a diamond front and stock rear and the only carnage so far has been the welds in my rear third letting loose but they have been rewelded since then and are holding up fine now. Ive done 5 days at the hammers, 5 times through the rubicon, 1 weekend at cow mountain, 1 trip snowwheeling and am very happy with the setup

[hytenor]

ive been running my 96 3rz taco with 4.88's and 39.5" iroks for just about a year now, i drive it too and from every trail up all the hills. it still pulls any hill way better than all the 22re guys I run with that have 5.29s and 37's or 35's. I have a diamond front and stock rear and the only carnage so far has been the welds in my rear third letting loose but they have been rewelded since then and are holding up fine now. Ive done 5 days at the hammers, 5 times through the rubicon, 1 weekend at cow mountain, 1 trip snowwheeling and am very happy with the setup


wanna trade motors? mine must be a lemon or something.

[nomayota]

haha, mine was supposedly under 40k when i bought the truck it runs pretty strong

[hytenor]

haha, mine was supposedly under 40k when i bought the truck it runs pretty strong

mine could barely make it up the grade with 4.88s/35s...I just can't imagine it with 40s :eek:
It pulled Tehachepi this last weekend in 4th for the most part and maintained 60 except for a couple spots...5.29s/35s...but that's floored and sucking major gas :p

Mine used to run damn good...then I started adding all this crap, LOL

[Full_Tilt_Fud]

Im running 37s with 4.88s on an automatic/3.4 and its perfect. I cant imagine needing lower than 5.29s. besides 5.29s have a thin pinion and you dont want that to be the weak link.



you must have way more patience than me or something............I am running 4.56's with 32's and plan on going to 33's with 4.88's when these tires wear out.......3.4/auto...........I don't have any need to race anybody but when I lean on the throttle I want the dam thing to move LOL

[nomayota]

auto sucks up alot of power......... 60 up tehachapi isnt bad with 35's i pulled like 65 up that with 35's in 4th fully loaded on my way to the hammers. Maybe im just used to the days of hitting 2nd or 3rd on big hills in my old 22r rig

[zanyzonies]

I've been running 37" Creepys for a while now, with 5,29 gears and an all stock "85" 22RE with a w56 5spd. I'm thinking about 40" tire's or a buggy. you wont win any drag races, but i can stay at 50+ up the bigger hills and run all day at 65 & 70 with no ploblems at all. plus creep the trails at 10.70 whith the dual cases.

just my :2cents:

[wslytoy]

I will say this about the 3RZ, it's an extremely rev happy engine, hence my choice for putting one in my 85 4Runner. I've yet to even get the engine in and have it running, still collecting parts... But my 22RE that was in the 85' seemed like if it were properly geared, that thing could easily pull 35's no problem. 40's might be a bit of a strain. However w/ a more powerful(40-60hp, depending on what's done to it) engine, I'm POSITIVE it could pull 40's w/ ease. One thing about these 4cylinders, if they're not geared properly, they're gonna struggle compared to a V6. I'm gonna run 33's and 4.88's at first, but I'd like to step up to 35's eventually and I feel like 4.88's will be plenty enough for a 3RZ. If it's not, I'm gonna go to 5.29's. On my 96' 3RZ, when I was running 32's and 4.56's, MAN that son of a bitch would scat some ass!!!! It's all about gearing.