: F-Toy #096 Build Up


muddemon_06
03-09-2008, 12:14 AM
Finally got this thing started today as I got back home with a '90 Toyota regular cab frame, rear leaf's, V6 rear diff, and a 21 spline RF1A T-case. I didn't waste any time slicing the independent stuff out from under it and getting it ready to cleanup. Got fortunate on this frame to not have very much rust..since about 100k it has sat with a 4.3 swap but no wires hooked up decently enough for it to run..someone did it right and coated the frame with quite a bit of rustoleum. This frame has less rust than my original 99 frame from Illinois, so I'm excited that there isn't a lot of rust to clean up. Going to make a call over to Memphis this week and see about when the F-Toy chassis can be ordered.
Here is the specs so far:
99 3RZ and W59
Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch Kit
Marlin W59 to RF1A Adapter
Trailgear Dual Adapter
Front Mini Axle/ Rear V6/Turbo
TRD e-lockers front and rear 4.30 or 4.56
Longfields, IFS hub conversion, Hydro Assist
39.5 IROKs

Perfect IFS Frame
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/parts050.jpg
Not anymore..
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/Sellin%20Stuff/parts053.jpg
The transfer case and AA's Adapter(for sale)
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/parts051.jpg
Hadn't flexed anything up in awhile so I decided the old John Deere would have to do.:D
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/parts057.jpg

muddemon_06
03-09-2008, 12:15 AM
I'm going to get the rest of the scrap metal off the frame tomorrow..so should have more updates tomorrow night.

midd
03-09-2008, 10:50 PM
good travel on the JD. good idea to take the hood off ,so it wont get damaged on the trail.:saw:

muddemon_06
03-10-2008, 12:59 PM
good travel on the JD. good idea to take the hood off ,so it wont get damaged on the trail.:saw:

Same thing I was thinking...I was wondering when it was gonna lift the rear. Grandpa hit the fire hydrant with it and cracked the hood in like 3 pieces. We checked for a replacement and it was like 500 new.:eek:

Bear
03-10-2008, 01:46 PM
Damn Bo! it didn't even occur to me on your other thread! I have an FJ40 frame I need to get rid of, I was going to do something similar with it as you are but it needs to be gone out of my garage.

If I would have thought about you needing a frame you could have probably had it for cheap! you would not have had to cut off the IFS with it!

muddemon_06
03-10-2008, 06:36 PM
Damn Bo! it didn't even occur to me on your other thread! I have an FJ40 frame I need to get rid of, I was going to do something similar with it as you are but it needs to be gone out of my garage.

If I would have thought about you needing a frame you could have probably had it for cheap! you would not have had to cut off the IFS with it!

Lol well I got a really good deal on this one and too boot, it has way less rust than my original 99 Tacoma frame. Got the frame, tcase, Advance 4.3 Adapter(For Sale), Rear springs, power steering box, and a v6 rear axle. And will hopefully make my money back just on the adapter.;)

muddemon_06
03-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Slow go..still dragging arse on getting the scrap shiz off the frame. I think all the torching is done and now on to the grinding portion. Good news is I made a call to Trailgear today and ordered the front spring hanger kit, the TG Axle truss, and the creeper gussets. That oughta get me setting on the tires..probably gonna pull some leaves out of the 44044's and see what I can do with them. 300 (44044) vs. 220 (TG) spring rate. Think I'll pull out the bottom 3 leaves and see if it'll flex..if not later on I'll switch to TG springs after I get it fully built.

muddemon_06
03-30-2008, 10:59 AM
Finally an update..

UPS finally came through wednesday before last with my parts from trailgear.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy001.jpg

The following day my wheels (courtesy of spacecwboy) came in and I immediately mounted them up. Might I add how hard it is to mount tires on aluminum wheels with steel tools. And before anyone says anything about me using stock 16x7 wheels with 13.50 tires, I have the reasoning. One, for some reason I love toyota factory wheels, I never was satisfied with the black wagon wheels I had on the taco, and even if I had beadlocked them I still don't think I would have loved them. Two, even though the 16's don't have the safety beadlock I will be running stauns in the future so I should not have any problems with blowing beads inner or outer. You can note how later on, sitting with the weight of the frame on them they still don't have much of a contact patch with the concrete but keep in mind they only have 500 lbs on them right now, they have 15lbs of pressure compared to 5-7lbs, and that when i'm finished they should be holding up 3000lbs or better.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy003.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy002.jpg

And here's the axle mocked into place. I mounted the front hanger 1/4" forward of the stock crossmember using the 44044's with the 3 upper leaves left in the pack. The only place I F'd up was I went ahead and welded the front hanger complete.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy004.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy005.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy006.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy009.jpg

Not a bad approach angle.;)
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy008.jpg

Got everything bolted up enough where I could roll it around. Havent inboarded the springs yet either, but I believe it will be a must. The only thing striking my curiosity at this time is how close the rear tires are to the frame. I believe they may rub a bit so I may have to use a little spacer on the rear or something. I like the way it sits right now and don't believe I'll change it much.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy021.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy017.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy015.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy016.jpg

Here's the only issue I have right now. Like I stated earlier, I F'd up and welded the front hanger solid, and with the weight of the frame I have a 90* shackle angle. Even with the weight of me and the motor on top of the frame it's about an 80* or so. I went by tg's instructions stating, if you use a 4" lift spring or more then mount the hanger 1/4" forward or so, now it seems flush or even a 1/4" back from the stock crossmember might get me around the 50* range.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy020.jpg

Lock to lock isn't too bad.
Front
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy019.jpg
Rear
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy018.jpg

Ride height right now at the stock trans/tcase crossmember. I'm expecting in between 25-26" with the hanger relocation and the total weight of the rig.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/buggy022.jpg

muddemon_06
03-30-2008, 11:01 AM
Another update..called John at Alpine in Memphis friday and he got me the info to get a chassis ordered, expecting 6-8 weeks. Sent my deposit in friday also to guarantee myself one on the truck.

jester_motorsports
03-30-2008, 05:01 PM
Bo, what's the wheelbase going to be?

muddemon_06
03-30-2008, 05:13 PM
Bo, what's the wheelbase going to be?
Well from my guesstimates with the tires on measuring by myself its around 105", I believe stock wb is 106", and hendrix's website shows 103". I'm shooting somewhere in between those numbers. Main thing I'm wanting to keep is a low center of gravity. So I've been looking at the trail gear buildup alot.

muddemon_06
04-01-2008, 02:59 PM
Got my invoice back from hendrix... SN #096 wish it would have been 099 hence the year model motor and trans.

Bear
04-01-2008, 10:51 PM
Bo, fixing your shackle angle maybe pretty easy since you went through the frame.

I am guessing you sleeved the hole correct? If you didn't here is the chance to do so.

All you need to do is move your hole for the shackle forward approximately 2 inches and that should correct your angle. Give me a call if you have questions on how you need to go about moving it.

But if you work with that end, you won't need to move your front cross member.

Once you move the shackle position just leave the sleeve in the original hole or if you feel so inclined just cap it and you should be okay.

muddemon_06
04-13-2008, 03:03 PM
A little more progress.. I got the motor tacked in place yesterday 6" back..really don't have a figure on how much it was dropped. I cut the stock motor mounts off before I measured. Going to get a transmission crossmember fabbed up this week.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/104_1518.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/104_1519.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u239/arkansaw_redneck_8/F-Toy/104_1520.jpg

Kaistie
04-14-2008, 12:28 PM
Wow! I see a lot of work in your future! But, it will be nice when its done.

muddemon_06
04-14-2008, 03:58 PM
Wow! I see a lot of work in your future! But, it will be nice when its done.

Yea the small stuff is what will add up money and time wise..I'm sure that the fun times in the future will make it all worth it.;)

98taco4x
04-16-2008, 08:32 AM
Looking good man. Actually those big tires look great on the stock rims, I like the look.

muddemon_06
04-16-2008, 02:53 PM
Looking good man. Actually those big tires look great on the stock rims, I like the look.

Thanks..postponed the trans. crossmember until I get the cases setup and get a look at the driveline angle. Going to get the rear most crossmember/ spring hanger in tomorrow.

thehackman15
04-16-2008, 10:33 PM
Rig is coming along nicely, Anybody ever buy that cab off of you?

muddemon_06
04-17-2008, 05:50 AM
Rig is coming along nicely, Anybody ever buy that cab off of you?

Thanks..No I still have it. I'm needing to part it out but don't feel like I have the time to post every part and actually get out there and pull the stuff out, I guess one day I will when I start needing the $ bad enough.

thehackman15
04-17-2008, 04:01 PM
Thanks..No I still have it. I'm needing to part it out but don't feel like I have the time to post every part and actually get out there and pull the stuff out, I guess one day I will when I start needing the $ bad enough.

I don't get why nobody has jumped all over that. Get it out to california and i'll take it all off your hands :D

muddemon_06
04-17-2008, 04:56 PM
I don't get why nobody has jumped all over that. Get it out to california and i'll take it all off your hands :D

Well if Mike delivers my formula chassis he might could drag it back with him if you paid me some freight to get it there. Assuming your close enough to his shop to drive and get it.

thehackman15
04-17-2008, 07:23 PM
Well if Mike delivers my formula chassis he might could drag it back with him if you paid me some freight to get it there. Assuming your close enough to his shop to drive and get it.

Where is his shop at?

muddemon_06
04-17-2008, 07:45 PM
Where is his shop at?

Santa Margarita, CA