Toy Axle Swap

[Boonie Buster]

This is my list so far of what i have: (Updated: 4/9/12)

This is going into a 1996 Tacoma Xtra Cab 2.7L 4X4

Build Thread Here:
http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174272

Axle Parts (Bought):
$550 - '85 Toy axle w/ '98 E-Locker
$100 - Stock Axle Set
Free - Knuckle Rebuild Kit (figure $150)
$50 - IFS outers
$399 - MC Hi-steer
$15 - MC Backing Plate Eliminators
$99 - FROR Tacoma Brake mounts
$250 - TG Tacoma Shackle Kit
$70 - Used Aisin Locking Hubs
$150 - Used Toyota Knuckle/Spindle outers
$50 - (2) Solid pinion spacers
$39 - E-locker Diff Guard
$15 - Steering Box mount kit
$785 - (2) 5.29 Gear Sets and Master Install Kits


Other Parts (Bought):
$119 - MC 23spl input
$10 - MC triple drilled flanges
$20 - FROR Firewall Plate
$75 - IFS Steering Box
$39 - MC Rear shackle hanger
$55 - 3/4 Drop Steering Arm (traded my flat arm)
$50 - Top shift t-case
$50 - RUF's already setup
$70 - Allpro 1.5" Spacers
$9 - Extended Thread lug nuts
$200 - W56 Transmission
$350 - MC MC07 doubler
$100 - Top Shift T-case
$270 - TG T-100 oilpan conversion
$79 - TG Tacoma PS hose kit
$80 - TG Frame braces
$600 - 4runner E-Locker rear axle 4.10s
$210 - TG Rear Frame Support and misc other items.
$165 - Marlin Triple Drilled Flanges and Misc nuts and bolts
$700 - (5) 35x12.5x17 MTR/Ks 70% tread, spare is new.
$55 - Extended Brake lines

What I still need to Buy:
-Misc Nuts and Bolts

$5283 - Spent
$0 - Need to Spend
$6038 - Current Total

Stuff i will make (since steel and welding supplies are free at the store! ) :
- Shock Hoops
Complete - Front Winch Mount/Spring Hanger

(I will add as i remember stuff...

Here are some pics of the truck BEFORE the hacking:

[Supra TT]

Originally Posted by Boonie Buster

This is my list so far of what i have:

Axle Parts (Bought):
Free - '85 Toy Axle (figure $350)
Free - 8" Yukon 5.29s (figure $150)
Free - Knuckle Rebuild Kit (figure $150)
$50 - IFS locking hubs
$50 - IFS outers
$399 - MC Hi-steer
$15 - MC Backing Plate Eliminators
$99 - FROR Tacoma Brake mounts

Other Parts (Bought):
$119 - MC 23spl input
$10 - MC triple drilled flanges
$20 - FROR Firewall Plate
$75 - IFS Steering Box
$39 - MC Rear shackle hanger
$55 - Marlin Flat Steering Arm
$50 - Top shift t-case
$50 - RUF's already setup




What I still need to Buy:
$150 - Yukon 8.4" 5.29s
$150 - Yukon 8" install kit
$349 - MC trans/t-case adapter
$250 - T-100 oilpan conversion
$99 - Sky's front hanger (or build one)
$100 - 1.5" Spacers
$150 - Frame braces/steering box mount
$50 - Extended brake lines

$1,681 - Spent
$1,298 - Need to Spend
$2,979 - Current Total


Stuff i will make (since steel and welding supplies are free at the store! ) :
- Shock Hoops
- Front Winch Mount
- Rear hanger brackets
- Crossmember



(I will add as i remember stuff...

Not free :P

Good start on everything so far.. When do you plan to

[Boonie Buster]

Originally Posted by Supra TT

Not free :P

Good start on everything so far.. When do you plan to

I know! (Actually they're free if you lend your welder out to CLOSE friends and thats how they pay you for borrowing it!)

I'm thinking I'll start early next year. I actually emailed TG to see when they're planning to sell the rear SAS shackle hangers apart from the kit, they said in a couple months, which is fine. I'm still gathering parts and deciding on some things. Like whether or not to buy the trans./t-case adapter for my W59 trans or buy a W56 trans and use the money saved for a dual-case adapter instead.

[Supra TT]

Originally Posted by Boonie Buster

I know! (Actually they're free if you lend your welder out to CLOSE friends and thats how they pay you for borrowing it!)

I'm thinking I'll start early next year. I actually emailed TG to see when they're planning to sell the rear SAS shackle hangers apart from the kit, they said in a couple months, which is fine. I'm still gathering parts and deciding on some things. Like whether or not to buy the trans./t-case adapter for my W59 trans or buy a W56 trans and use the money saved for a dual-case adapter instead.

Haha, true. Or if you work for company that deals with alot of steel, especially scrap metal... Free use of welder (perk of working there) and well they don't need scrap

Anyway... It's hard playing the hurry up and wait game. I waited almost over a year. I was committed to paying the money, and taking the time to work on it.. Then 3 months later after research I bought some parts.. with in 2 months I purchased the majority of my parts, and 4 months ago I bought the rest of the parts. Then came the .. Now after 2 months... It's still driving.. Even with fucked up front end

[SilverSeven]

nice

[87hillbillyoter]

i like the price list gives me an idea of what ill be looking at total. lets see some pics

[sasaholic]

Originally Posted by 87hillbillyoter

i like the price list gives me an idea of what ill be looking at total. lets see some pics

ur 87 is a lot easier swap than his and can be quite a bit cheaper if u want it to be

[87hillbillyoter]

Originally Posted by sasaholic

ur 87 is a lot easier swap and his and can be quite a bit cheaper if u want it to be

what is he sasing? i think im gonna buy all-pros kit and then just run chevy 63s in the rear. i already picked up 35s, so all i need is an axle really. but im gonna go with gears and lockers, most likely arb's and all that good stuff, so i imagine it will be somewhere in the 2500-3000 range.

[sasaholic]

a tacoma. there alot more involved than a pre 95. 95 and older have the same frame as a factory solid axle truck and basically everything is the same other than the front suspension so its just weld on the perches and bolt most the other stuff on. basically

[87hillbillyoter]

Originally Posted by sasaholic

a tacoma. there alot more involved than a pre 95. 95 and older have the same frame as a factory solid axle truck and basically everything is the same other than the front suspension so its just weld on the perches and bolt most the other stuff on. basically

ahhh thought he was doing an older pickup. they are for sure harder than the pre 95s.

[Boonie Buster]

Originally Posted by 87hillbillyoter

ahhh thought he was doing an older pickup. they are for sure harder than the pre 95s.

I edited my OP so it says what its going on. That seems like something that needs to be known!

[hillbillyjake]

Originally Posted by sasaholic

ur 87 is a lot easier swap than his and can be quite a bit cheaper if u want it to be

care to to share a price total. i know it would be ball park, but i have an 86 that i'm thinking about sasing and was trying to get some figures.

toyota axle, ruf's, crossover sterring. just something basic. sorry for the hijack. thanks

[Supra TT]

Originally Posted by hillbillyjake

care to to share a price total. i know it would be ball park, but i have an 86 that i'm thinking about sasing and was trying to get some figures.

toyota axle, ruf's, crossover sterring. just something basic. sorry for the hijack. thanks

All depends on how you build the truck... $2k-5k.

Also are you doing the work yourself? It'll save alot of money, basically free right Boonie

[Boonie Buster]

Originally Posted by Supra TT

All depends on how you build the truck... $2k-5k.

Also are you doing the work yourself? It'll save alot of money, basically free right Boonie

You bet!

Just price out some of the stuff from the list above, minus what you don't need. For an '80s-90s IFS truck it's going to be cheaper because you don't need to swap drivetrain parts/difference side. Building brackets yourself saves a ton in places. Sometimes it is cheaper to get the "kit" pieces. I would personally get the rear "through the frame" shackle hanger kits from Trail-Gear or Marlin Crawler maybe.

[ROCTAC]

Boonie Buster. I may be confused but, looking at your parts list it looks as if you are going to run ifs hub lock outs with your ifs 4x4 hubs???? The front range kit requires IFS 4x4 hubs to be turned down and then you use straight axle hub lockouts. I also believe you do not need your backing plate eliminators because the tacoma brake mounting kit takes their width into consideration. I am in the middle of the the same swap on my 97. Good luck!

[Boonie Buster]

Getting a W56 trans. Top Shift T-case and Marlin Crawler Doubler this weekend. $350 cash and trade for some RC car stuff I have. But total value is $650 for those keeping track.

I updated the list with a few items i've bought or changed.

[sasaholic]

following this really closely as im pretty sure this is the way i want to sac my shit instead of using a waggy axle. just seem way easier to do lower tcases when i want to which in reality is right now haha. u better post every little thing u come across and how u did everything and ill get u a cookie when your done if you did a good job and dont whine to much

[Boonie Buster]

Originally Posted by sasaholic

following this really closely as im pretty sure this is the way i want to sac my shit instead of using a waggy axle. just seem way easier to do lower tcases when i want to which in reality is right now haha. u better post every little thing u come across and how u did everything and ill get u a cookie when your done if you did a good job and dont whine to much

"But i dont wanna!"



Ya, ask away if you have questions too. I will more than likely forget some details. I'm actually suprised that my out of pocket costs are almost finished. I might have to start working on this for real soon! ha ha.

[Boonie Buster]

A friend of mine is ordering gears today along with gears for his truck.

Only $500 left to spend, aside from little tidbits and such.

[Yotaoffroad27]

My kan nO raed so,

[Boonie Buster]

Ok, Since my dad needed to order up a flat pitman arm, I guess i just HAD to order up the rest of the parts

Bought the TG T-100 pan conversion, PS hose kit, frame braces(minus PS box holes), PS box brace kit, spring perches.

I now just need to get extended brake lines when the time comes.

I am also thinking about getting a new clutch, but im not including that in the cost of the build because it's not needed, just an insurance purchase. maybe get a master and slave cylinder also....

[Scuba]

Originally Posted by Boonie Buster

Bought the TG T-100 pan conversion

You payed about $100 too much. Can get that stuff from a toyota dealer for around 200.

[Boonie Buster]

Through the Toyota of Dallas site:

PAN S/A, OIL $97.09
Oil pick-up, t100 - $60.97
GASKET, OIL STRAINER - $1.15
Dipstick - 4 cylinder - $10.54
Tube - 4 cylinder - $11.17
PLATE, OIL HOLE COVE - $18.64
Sealer - $9.86

Total: $209.42
Shipping: $31.41

Grand Total: $240.83 (doesn't include plate? bolts that are unavailable from their website)

You're right, I did pay too much. Thanks.

Trail-Gear got a $30 Finder's Fee from me! ha ha.

[BigMike]

This is a great project you've got going on Please let us know if you need any assistance with the Crawler install!!

Be sure to post some pics of the t/case progress!!

Regards,
BigMike

[Boonie Buster]

Updated the list, decided to go with Sky's front hanger vs. building one, my will to fabricate one is waning right now, also going to use a FROR crossmember and skid plate. Something i didnt add that i probably will is a TG inspection port on the toy axle and also longer wheel studs for the tacoma brake conversion from FROR.

I should start prepping the axle and drivetrain soon...

EDIT: And for arguments sake, I still say a SAS for cheap is doable, i've spent more money on certain parts and will put together a list of only needed parts to complete the swap.

[Boonie Buster]

Updated my list a little.

I think i have just about everything aside from a few parts that'll come later.

About high time i start assembling the front axle.

Edit:

And I decided to build my own front hanger and crossmember as opposed to buying them and retrofitting them in. Amazing what a few months will do to ones judgement!

[NorcalPR]

What brake lines do you need? I have a pair that's the 10mm Flare on one end, and a 3/8(10mm) banjo on the other end. 28" long.

If you're going to use Tacoma Calipers, they'll work great. You can also use them for the tundra calipers. I also have the banjo bolts and the copper washers. Everything is new, enver been used

[Boonie Buster]

Originally Posted by NorcalPR

What brake lines do you need? I have a pair that's the 10mm Flare on one end, and a 3/8(10mm) banjo on the other end. 28" long.

If you're going to use Tacoma Calipers, they'll work great. You can also use them for the tundra calipers. I also have the banjo bolts and the copper washers. Everything is new, enver been used

Thanks for the offer, i'll keep it in mind. I honestly couldnt tell you what brake lines i need yet, aside from just need longer factory lines, I'm going to reuse my tacoma brake calipers for sure, but as to the length of the lines i need, i just dont know yet.

[NorcalPR]

They'll work if you're around 24" frame height on 35's

[Boonie Buster]

Originally Posted by NorcalPR

They'll work if you're around 24" frame height on 35's

Hmmm.... My goal was 37" Frame Height with 32's....