Barking Dogs

[elgecko]

Originally Posted by nees1212

There's no way the dogs can open the gate by themselves so someone is doing it.

My cousin's dog knows how to push up on the latch that secures the gate. I didn't believe till I saw it...freaking hilarious!

[jung4x4]

Originally Posted by Dick Foster

What happened to people being responsible for their on shit?
Fucking irresponsible people make lousy dog owners anyway. They are typically where all the animal abuse cases come from. Maybe the real long term solution here is to shoot the dog owner. Hey!! A two-fer.

Thanks Dick, that's exactly the way I feel about the situation.

-Adam
NMTTORA

[jung4x4]

Originally Posted by km0000

AND YOU SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR KILLING A DOG!!!!!!!! BUT 10 YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH

You sound like one of those people who feel that killing an animal is worse than killing a human being.

The fact of the matter is my neighbor has an annoying dog that barks all day long. The problem is compounded by the fact that she sits at home all day (from what I can tell) and does very little to prevent it.

If it were my dog and I knew this was happening I would take care of the problem because, quite frankly, I would expect my dog to get shot if I was the one in her situation.

-Adam
NMTTORA

[nees1212]

Originally Posted by elgecko

My cousin's dog knows how to push up on the latch that secures the gate. I didn't believe till I saw it...freaking hilarious!

My lab is smart, but not that smart. He'd have to lift the latch, slide it over, and pull the gate open. Each time it has occured, it was basically the same scenario; we'd been gone for a while, return late at night, and let the dogs out. Next thing we know, they're not at the back door, and sure enough, the gate is wide open. Each time though, the latch looks as though it hasn't been touched (still in the locked position), but there is no way possible to open the gate without moving the latch.

[Dick Foster]

It's magic!!! LOL. Those dogs are worth some real money.

[absolut taco]

Originally Posted by jung4x4

You sound like one of those people who feel that killing an animal is worse than killing a human being.

The fact of the matter is my neighbor has an annoying dog that barks all day long. The problem is compounded by the fact that she sits at home all day (from what I can tell) and does very little to prevent it.

If it were my dog and I knew this was happening I would take care of the problem because, quite frankly, I would expect my dog to get shot if I was the one in her situation.

-Adam
NMTTORA

Why shoot the dog? The dog is only doing its thing... The owner is the one who should get shot for being a shitty dog owner who won't take the steps necessary to make the dog STFU.

[tbplus10]

Originally Posted by 05'DCTaco

now this pussy would scare me

Damn, who woulda thought Kenny Rogers likes big pussy's.

Tim

[Super Doody]

Originally Posted by GOT COPE?

No you shouldnt go to jail for killing a dog.

At least for certain reasons. We shoot local strays that chase our deer on our hunting property. I always give they a warning shot at their feet and they scoot. Ive never shot a dog (I missed dammit jk) but my friends have and know they are free to do so if a dog is spotted on the property.
And it all comes down to the irresponsible owners who dont keep the dogs w/in their own property lines.
Half the dogs on the side of the road in this county are tresspassing victims, not road kill.
I have 2 dogs and love them to death, but I dont like dogs running the deer off my property. My neighbor hunts in a different county and had a land owner next to him who had dogs trained to run deer back to the owners property. So guess what my neighbor did.

Great. Just because you own a gun... you can do whatever you want. So what if dogs run deer off your property? You don't own wildlife. Do you eat the dogs after you kill them?

[elgecko]

I like dogs...they taste like chicken

[Dick Foster]

I know some people who would. LOL

[nastynate]

Originally Posted by Super Doody

Great. Just because you own a gun... you can do whatever you want. So what if dogs run deer off your property? You don't own wildlife. Do you eat the dogs after you kill them?

ok.. this thread has gone to shit.

[GOT COPE?]

Originally Posted by nees1212

Tell your friend to come over to my house and shoot my neighbors dog. It keeps crapping in my front yard, and I'm tired of stepping in it when cutting the grass. The neighbor doesn't think it's a big deal either.

My best advice for that would be to sprinkle red pepper power on the "pile" and the dogs will eventually figure out not to come in your yard to sniff or theyll get a snout full of red pepper.

Originally Posted by nees1212

Also, when a dog gets outside its property line, it doesn't necessarily mean it's due to an irresponsible owner. I've had a couple instances where my dogs have gotten out, because some dickwad is openning the double gate when I'm gone. Then when I come home and let them out, they run off. There's no way the dogs can open the gate by themselves so someone is doing it.

I agree. My best friends dog climbed the fence (she was in heat) b/c she was interested in the male next door. She got hit by a car. It wasnt his fault but sad nonetheless.

[GOT COPE?]

Originally Posted by Super Doody

Great. Just because you own a gun... you can do whatever you want. So what if dogs run deer off your property? You don't own wildlife. Do you eat the dogs after you kill them?

Ok, well say you pay hundreds of dollars per year to join a hunting club so you can hunt the "X" number of acres. Or even go further and spend thousands of dollars to buy your own place. All this money invested for the sole purpose of hunting. You'd be pretty pissed if you never saw deer due to them being run off your property by the local unleashed or stray dogs.

These are not cute, clean neighborhood dogs. These are neglected, stray, scrangy, country mutts. Possibly even feral in some cases. Or at least well on their way to feral. However, I saw two black labs last season, running together, both collared, both looked well fed. I shot over them and they went home. In this case the owner, who lives right next to my property, had let them out and they had ventured further than he tought they would.

We can differentiate b/t domestic dogs owned by neighbors who have unintentionally let them stray too long on their potty break and stray dogs who survive on wild game or well garbage. The stray dogs are most likely driven out to the middle of nowhere and kicked out of the truck.
They are very unlikely farm dogs who's owner is missing them as most farm dogs I know are very loyal and dont stray far from the porch or their owner.

One family I just dont understand, is down the road from my property, they have 9 frickin dogs of various breeds and mixes chained to trees on both sides and the rear of the house. Umm, trailer. anyway, these dogs are on these chains 365 days a year each with their own little doghouse. I dont know what they are fed but Ive never seen anyone interact with any of the dogs other than feeding. I assume theyre fed as theyre still there every year.
It ticks me to see 9 dogs purchased just to be mangy, flee ridden lawn ornaments.
My two mini dachuands are given hours of attention each day and sleep in the bed with me or another family member.

I would be perfectly happy to never have to shoot a stray, but that will only happen with responsible ownership. If they werent neglected and disowned in the first place they wouldnt be causing chaos in the woods.

Just my

EDIT: Oh and as for owning wildlife youre wrong. Id rather not go into it but Ill be brief.

Well theres this term, poaching. And no this instance it does not pertain to a way one would cook an egg.

Also, an easy to understand example. Not brief but easy to understand.

Say John Doe poaches on a private outfitter's ranch. He shoots a record book animal, as the ranch manages the land and the herd for top genetics.
If this ranch charges $5000 for a week long guided hunt + fees for the trophy, guiding, and lodging, when JD is caught along with the evidence b/c of course JD kept the head as it was a "book buck", JD will owe the land owner at least the full amount of the hunt as if he had actually employed their services plus any damages the owner wishes to seek. As well as what the police charge him for.

So in fact, the land owner does own/have rights (which ever term you prefer) to the game inhabiting the land he owns.

You dont even have to tresspass to poach. You can shoot across property lines and be charged w/ poaching b/c you shot the deer on his land which means that deer as long as on his land is his deer. And until it crosses onto your land it isnt yours to shoot.

Im not trying to say mine mine mine all mine, but when you purchase land in most cases it comes with all the resources above, below, and within its boundaries. And you have the right to protect that resource even if it means shooting a dog.

And just for the record, I have spoken with Game Wardens and Wildlife officials who take the same approach against deer-running dogs on their own land of course.