The SiRMarlon Crawler!

SiRMarlon · 10-27-2009, 02:05 AM

Well it's official...I picked up a 1984 Toyota 4Runner today. Ralph (Wildhorse1969), my brother Denny (Dtrujillo63), and myself headed out to west LA to check it out...here are the specs.

1984 Toyota 4Runner
Rebuilt 22R
Weber 32/36 Tuned Carb
Downey Off-Road Headers
5.29 Gears F&R
Detroit Lockers F&R
All Pro Chromoly Birfields
4Runner V6 rear axle (wider track)
1.5" Spacers up front to match the rear
IFS Calipers and LC Vented Rotors
SS Brake lines all around

I will take some better shots tomorrow...the passenger side body is a little rough, it needs new fenders and I need a switch for the rear power window, little misc things that need to get taken care of. Here is how it sits in my backyard as of tonight...

First Mod is going to be a 2M radio so if my Junk ever breaks down I can reach one of the TWA members! The plan is to build it so we can run trails in the hammers area

sleepyratt · 10-27-2009, 02:52 AM

congrats!... Looks like an awesome rig... stock tcase right now? I envy all the cheaper parts avaialble for the earlier gens.

SiRMarlon · 10-27-2009, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyratt

congrats!... Looks like an awesome rig... stock tcase right now? I envy all the cheaper parts avaialble for the earlier gens.

Yup Stock case right now, but I will be doubling up on my cases here shortly!

Dual 2.28's so she can crawl...

TaWComA26 · 10-27-2009, 03:06 AM

Nice buy man.

Makes me wish I still had my 87.

MonkeyProof · 10-27-2009, 07:15 AM

SWEET!!!!

Killer Red Taco · 10-27-2009, 03:03 PM

Looking good Marlon!!!!

hytenor · 10-28-2009, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRMarlon

Yup Stock case right now, but I will be doubling up on my cases here shortly!

Dual 2.28's so she can crawl...

get a set of 4.7 gears...more gooder

and swap out those 27sp axles to 30sp Longs

congrats!

you gonna bring this to Dusy next summer?

SiRMarlon · 10-28-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hytenor

get a set of 4.7 gears...more gooder

and swap out those 27sp axles to 30sp Longs

congrats!

you gonna bring this to Dusy next summer?

Yes most definately I will be bringing her to Dusy!!!

Longs will be in there by then!! Along with a 4.7 in the rear case!!

hytenor · 10-28-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRMarlon

Yes most definately I will be bringing her to Dusy!!!

Longs will be in there by then!! Along with a 4.7 in the rear case!!

awesome

bigarms23 · 10-28-2009, 07:05 PM

nice 4runner find and also change the tires

hytenor · 10-29-2009, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bigarms23

nice 4runner find and also change the tires

o my...are those Thornbirds??

YotaJosh · 10-29-2009, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hytenor

o my...are those Thornbirds??

They are the official "hey guys look at my new project" tires. Everyone has them.

They are the tires that sell your rig!

SiRMarlon · 10-29-2009, 01:38 PM

Well those tires were on the truck when purchased will they stay on? LOL definately not...

ike · 10-29-2009, 01:43 PM

great looking truck! congrats.

hytenor · 10-29-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YotaJosh

They are the official "hey guys look at my new project" tires. Everyone has them.

They are the tires that sell your rig!

It brings me back to our '04 Rubicon trip with captkirk swearing at his Thornbirds the entire trip, LOL It didn't seem to matter what psi he ran..they simply refused to get grip...on anything.

E-ROCKER · 10-29-2009, 04:15 PM

Congrats Marlon, can't wait to see it on the trail.

ocdropzone · 10-30-2009, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRMarlon

4Runner V6 rear axle (wider track)
2.5" Spacers up front to match the rear

hmmmm...you need new spacers up front. You need 1.5" spacers, not 2.5"
your front track is wider than the rear

did you steal Chris Geiger's avatar?

edit: looks like a great base for a project, have fun

ForeRunner85 · 10-30-2009, 07:58 AM

Nice find! Now loose the step bars and get some sliders.

Mr Tacomi · 10-30-2009, 08:30 AM

Cool rig! I'm sure your list is long, but if it were mine, I'd start at getting rid of the push-pull steering! ...and the spacers....and the tires.... and the... LOL!

Enjoy the project!

hytenor · 10-30-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocdropzone

hmmmm...you need new spacers up front. You need 1.5" spacers, not 2.5"
your front track is wider than the rear

did you steal Chris Geiger's avatar?

edit: looks like a great base for a project, have fun

wider track up front has some advantages...whatever you can squeeze through with the front will be a breeze for the rear

I'm 3" wider up front.

SiRMarlon · 10-30-2009, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocdropzone

did you steal Chris Geiger's avatar?

edit: looks like a great base for a project, have fun

I don't know who Chris Geiger is so probably not, and it's def a great base at a great price it's the reason I bought it. Does it need work yeah it does...

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-ROCKER

Congrats Marlon, can't wait to see it on the trail.

Thanks Eric

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeRunner85

Nice find! Now loose the step bars and get some sliders.

I was going to take them off but the previous owner welded the sucker on so I gotta find a cutting wheel to get the weld offs...What I will most likely do this weekend!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Tacomi

Cool rig! I'm sure your list is long, but if it were mine, I'd start at getting rid of the push-pull steering!
Enjoy the project!

Any idea's? This is my 1st SA truck so I'm learning it's characteristics...it is wobbling around 35mph so I have to figure that one out as well. I'm gonna try rotating the tires this weekend so see if that helps, if not then I gotta start checking all the other things like the wheel bearings...

hytenor · 10-30-2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRMarlon

I don't know who Chris Geiger is

not necessarily a bad thing...just think major slime and grand theft...stuff like that..

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRMarlon

I was going to take them off but the previous owner welded the sucker on so I gotta find a cutting wheel to get the weld offs...What I will most likely do this weekend!

that's what plasma torches are for

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRMarlon

Any idea's?

High-steer kit from Marlin, Inchworm, etc (anybody but TG...see above...)
Knuckle rebuild kits...same sources.

Scuba · 10-30-2009, 11:40 PM

Hytenor, if were "steering" (pun intended) him away from Trail gear stuff, you mentioned inchworm for a high steer.. But isn't the kit that inchworm sells the same one that TG makes..?

http://www.inchwormgear.com/store/pr...roducts_id=944

http://www.trail-gear.com/high-steer-kits.html

Marlin Ftw!

Oh and iirc chris Geiger is the previous owner / CEO of trail gear.. And apparently he did some stupid shiat.

Marlon, kool truck. Can't wait to see this thing in action..
Just some food for thought, you've seen ralphs truck in action I'm sure.. He's only running a single case with a 4.7 low. Cost effective crawler

if you have your heart set on duals though, who am I to stop you. Carry on

hytenor · 10-30-2009, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba951

Hytenor, if were "steering" (pun intended) him away from Trail gear stuff, you mentioned inchworm for a high steer.. But isn't the kit that inchworm sells the same one that TG makes..?

http://www.inchwormgear.com/store/pr...roducts_id=944

http://www.trail-gear.com/high-steer-kits.html

Marlin Ftw!

Oh and iirc chris Geiger is the previous owner / CEO of trail gear.. And apparently he did some stupid shiat.

Marlon, kool truck. Can't wait to see this thing in action..
Just some food for thought, you've seen ralphs truck in action I'm sure.. He's only running a single case with a 4.7 low. Cost effective crawler

if you have your heart set on duals though, who am I to stop you. Carry on

LOL, as soon as I hit 'send', I thought of that....I've given Jim shit about that for years...

SiRMarlon · 10-31-2009, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba951

Hytenor, if were "steering" (pun intended) him away from Trail gear stuff, you mentioned inchworm for a high steer.. But isn't the kit that inchworm sells the same one that TG makes..?

http://www.inchwormgear.com/store/pr...roducts_id=944

http://www.trail-gear.com/high-steer-kits.html

Marlin Ftw!

Oh and iirc chris Geiger is the previous owner / CEO of trail gear.. And apparently he did some stupid shiat.

Marlon, kool truck. Can't wait to see this thing in action..
Just some food for thought, you've seen ralphs truck in action I'm sure.. He's only running a single case with a 4.7 low. Cost effective crawler

if you have your heart set on duals though, who am I to stop you. Carry on

I plan on getting the High Steer kit from All Pro, I am also going to be rebuilding the Axles hopefully sometime this week. I've never rebuilt a SA so it's going to be a learning experience! I don't want a 4.7 in a single case because I want the option of having double low's and yeah my heart is set on dual cases!

The goal is eventually dual 4.7's

hytenor · 11-01-2009, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRMarlon

I plan on getting the High Steer kit from All Pro, I am also going to be rebuilding the Axles hopefully sometime this week. I've never rebuilt a SA so it's going to be a learning experience! I don't want a 4.7 in a single case because I want the option of having double low's and yeah my heart is set on dual cases!

The goal is eventually dual 4.7's

no reason for dual 4.7s with the 22r, none at all...unless you plan on 44s at some point

Jon will take good care of you.
there are plenty of Yota front axle rebuild writeups on Pirate.
the only thing to really remember is to use OE bearings or at least top quality stuff...NOT the Chinese crap (search "white box") the TG sells.

SiRMarlon · 11-01-2009, 01:36 PM

Yeah the crew from All Pro are great to work with! I found a couple of good rebuild threads on Pirate already that I will be using as my guide! I will most likely be ordering the rebuild kit from All Pro or Marlin since I keep hearing he has a bigger nicer seal for the Axles along with new bearings not from TG lol...thanks for the insight Hytenor!

My Oil gauge was not working so I went to the shop today and I grabbed my old one from the CRX and installed it into the 4Runner. I have to order a new sending unit but at least with the gauge I have a better idea of whats going on!

I also took the top off!

I need to find me some corner lights for the front so I don't get hassled by the cops.

In this last picture you can see the only part of the truck that has damage...

TACOABUSE · 11-01-2009, 04:23 PM

The thing is bro, that thing could be rolled and still look good. Can't wait to see this out on the trail.

BrandonH · 11-01-2009, 04:43 PM

Great find compa!!!! Cant wait to see it in action!!!

NorcalPR · 11-01-2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRMarlon

I plan on getting the High Steer kit from All Pro, I am also going to be rebuilding the Axles hopefully sometime this week. I've never rebuilt a SA so it's going to be a learning experience! I don't want a 4.7 in a single case because I want the option of having double low's and yeah my heart is set on dual cases!

The goal is eventually dual 4.7's

If you're going to replace the bearings, you can order Timken bearings (IMHO, better quality than the Koyo's that Marlin sells) for about the same price.

You can order the bearings at a local bearing distributor. Since there were none around me, I ordered through www.wbds.com

30304 CM (2) - Trunion Bearings
LM102910 - Race for Wheel Bearing

LM102949 - Race for Wheel Bearing

JLM104948 - Roller for wheel bearing

JLM104910 - Roller for Wheel Bearing

226285 - Seal for brake rotor

Above will complete one side. To do the whole axle, double the qty.

To center the knuckle on the axle, many people just put .4 shims all around, but it does not center and the preload may be off. To center the knuckle, here is the procedure. I made this tool, along with a spare tool. If you want to borrow it, just let me know and we can work something out.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=734345

Also great information can be found here for tearing into the axle.
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/mainte...nd/solid_axle/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...eRebuild.shtml

10-27-2009, 02:05 AM	#1
SiRMarlon Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 576	The SiRMarlon Crawler! Well it's official...I picked up a 1984 Toyota 4Runner today. Ralph (Wildhorse1969), my brother Denny (Dtrujillo63), and myself headed out to west LA to check it out...here are the specs. 1984 Toyota 4Runner Rebuilt 22R Weber 32/36 Tuned Carb Downey Off-Road Headers 5.29 Gears F&R Detroit Lockers F&R All Pro Chromoly Birfields 4Runner V6 rear axle (wider track) 1.5" Spacers up front to match the rear IFS Calipers and LC Vented Rotors SS Brake lines all around I will take some better shots tomorrow...the passenger side body is a little rough, it needs new fenders and I need a switch for the rear power window, little misc things that need to get taken care of. Here is how it sits in my backyard as of tonight... First Mod is going to be a 2M radio so if my Junk ever breaks down I can reach one of the TWA members! The plan is to build it so we can run trails in the hammers area __________________ www.SiRMarlon.com The World through my eyes! Last edited by SiRMarlon; 11-19-2009 at 11:13 PM.

10-27-2009, 02:52 AM	#2
sleepyratt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 257	congrats!... Looks like an awesome rig... stock tcase right now? I envy all the cheaper parts avaialble for the earlier gens. __________________ www.riceclick.net 2000 Taco Reg Cab 2.7L 4WD 33" Kumho MTRs - 4.88 Gears Powertrax No Slip - Rear Lockright - Front OME 882 + N91S - Inchworm 5.0 CBI Offroad - Sliders - Bumpers F/R

10-27-2009, 03:06 AM	#4
TaWComA26 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: NoHo, Socal Posts: 986	Nice buy man. Makes me wish I still had my 87. __________________ 02 2.7 D Cab 32's, lifted 00 R6... for sale Faster than your R1 Click me

10-27-2009, 07:15 AM	#5
MonkeyProof Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SoCal-SGV Posts: 975	SWEET!!!! __________________ www.SiRMarlon.com 2008 DoubleCab All-Pro LT kit, All-Pro 3" leaf pack, Fox shocks, All-Pro front bumper, All-Pro skids 35" tires, 4.56 gears, locked front/rear, CB and 2meter radios 86Turbo with 3.4L swap, MarlonCrawler SAS, HighSteer kit, front bumper, tcase gears, All Pro internal roll cage, sliders, 39" Krawlers on Allied Beadlocks, cb and 2meter radios

10-27-2009, 03:03 PM	#6
Killer Red Taco Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: On a Hill in NorCal Posts: 639	Looking good Marlon!!!! __________________ NorCal TTORA Rock Whores OG3

10-28-2009, 07:05 PM	#10
bigarms23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 15mins to the con Posts: 353	nice 4runner find and also change the tires __________________ 1988 4.3cpi v6 4runner chevy axles 513s,detroits,36 duals

10-29-2009, 01:38 PM	#13
SiRMarlon Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 576	Well those tires were on the truck when purchased will they stay on? LOL definately not... __________________ www.SiRMarlon.com The World through my eyes!

10-29-2009, 04:15 PM	#16
E-ROCKER Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LaHabra Ca. Posts: 273	Congrats Marlon, can't wait to see it on the trail. __________________ 08' BD A/T FJ 4x4

10-30-2009, 07:58 AM	#18
ForeRunner85 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: JAX/Orange City, FL Posts: 178	Nice find! Now loose the step bars and get some sliders. __________________ 85 4Runner 22re V6 rear w/Detroit, Bilstein 5125, 63" Chevy springs; stock front FJ-80 vented rotors, RUF springs, high-steer and IFS box; 35x12.5x15 Trxus Mt's; and a decaying Kayline softtop...

10-30-2009, 08:30 AM	#19
Mr Tacomi Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 2,410	Cool rig! I'm sure your list is long, but if it were mine, I'd start at getting rid of the push-pull steering! ...and the spacers....and the tires.... and the... LOL! Enjoy the project! __________________ +()X()=

11-01-2009, 01:36 PM	#27
SiRMarlon Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 576	Yeah the crew from All Pro are great to work with! I found a couple of good rebuild threads on Pirate already that I will be using as my guide! I will most likely be ordering the rebuild kit from All Pro or Marlin since I keep hearing he has a bigger nicer seal for the Axles along with new bearings not from TG lol...thanks for the insight Hytenor! My Oil gauge was not working so I went to the shop today and I grabbed my old one from the CRX and installed it into the 4Runner. I have to order a new sending unit but at least with the gauge I have a better idea of whats going on! I also took the top off! I need to find me some corner lights for the front so I don't get hassled by the cops. In this last picture you can see the only part of the truck that has damage... __________________ www.SiRMarlon.com The World through my eyes!

11-01-2009, 04:23 PM	#28
TACOABUSE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Satan Barbara Posts: 410	The thing is bro, that thing could be rolled and still look good. Can't wait to see this out on the trail. __________________ stripping ruined my life 84 toy std cab long bed locked, lifted, cases, full exo, bobbed 14", 37's http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/P6120073.jpg

11-01-2009, 04:43 PM	#29
BrandonH Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 620	Great find compa!!!! Cant wait to see it in action!!! __________________ 07 Tacoma DC TRD. ARB Locker Front. Icon Extended Travel CO's w/ reservior, Camburg 1.25" UCA's, Alcan AAL's, Icon Rear reservoir shocks ,All Pro Plate bumper,All Pro IFS Skid plate, All Pro Rear Bumper Warn 9.5xp winch, 17x9 Walker Evans Beadlocks, BFG AT KO 315/70/17, OME degree Shims, OME Carrier Bearing drop. Trail Gear Sliders, Yakima Load Warrior Basket, OEM Roof Rack, Hella 4000 Euro Beam Fogs w/ HID conversion

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