Big Bear - August 11/12, 2012

[sparky]

TTORA SO-CAL

presents

BIG BEAR

This is one of the largest attended events of the year! The annual Big Bear run has plenty of fun trails for all types of vehicles. Most staff and members will be camping. Trail runs will take place all day Saturday and additional runs usually pop up on Sunday.

VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS: Open to all Prerunners and 4x4s.

All vehicles should have a tow strap, at least 1 tow point on both ends of your rig(stock OK), a fire extinguisher, a first aid kit, a fully working spare tire and tools to change it. Each run has its own requirements, see below. A CB radio is highly recommended for communications on the trail.

DRIVERS MEETING:

TIME: 9AM Sharp!
Location: TTORA Camp in Holcomb Valley
Please have your vehicle ready for the trails

RUNS:

Prerunner / Stock Run:
Geared toward Prerunners and stock 4x4s, this is a great run for the new comer or those just looking for a nice time in one of the most beautiful mountain areas in Sothern California. This run will be a tour of Holcomb Valley and the surrounding points of interest. Damage of any kind is very unlikely. The San Bernardino Mountains have a rich history and this will be presented as we visit the mines, town sites and other interesting or scenic stops along the way. This is a great way to introduce you and your family to the back county in the San Bernardino National Forest and to learn of its many links to the lands below. It will also be a great way to escape the summer heat by having a relaxing time in the mountains! Some stops will require short walks to view the sites. Appropriate shoes and attire are recommended.

Stock / Modified 4x4 Mild Run:
This run will cover trails such as Gold Mountain, White Mountain, Pontiac Sluice and Jacoby Canyon. These trails will include rocky hill climbs, small rock gardens and loose dirt. Body damage on these trails is not likely, however rock sliders and skid plates are recommended. 4x4 is required for these runs. Additionally, a rear locker and off-road tires are required for the White Mtn. trail run.

Lifted and Locked Hard Run:
This run will cover such trails as John Bull, Holcomb Creek, Dishpan Springs, Deep Creek and Mottino Wash. These trails are very challenging and cover steep, rocky, off-camber terrain. Minimum requirements include 33” tires and one locker. Rock sliders and body armor are also recommended. Body damage is possible on these trails.

Planned runs will vary depending on turn-out and some runs may be combined or cancelled as necessary.
If you have any questions please let your trail leader know before starting the trail.

Trail Preparedness List

FEES:

You must purchase a Forest Adventure Pass if you park or camp in the NF. The forest rangers do regularly patrol the area. You can be cited if you are parked without an Adventure Pass displayed. Adventure Passes are good for four local National Forests, Angeles, San Bernardino, Cleveland and Los Padres. They are required if you stop your vehicle and participate in any form of recreation (i.e. any stopping). Complete details including how and where to purchase the passes can be found at www.fsadventurepass.org. Day passes are $5 and annual passes are $30. The day passes are good for the date validated through 10am the following morning.

Also, if you are planning on using a stove, you will need a fire permit. They can be picked up at any local ranger station or the Discovery Center.


CAMPING INFO:

Weather conditions average mid to high 40’s at night and high 70’s to 80’s during the day at this time of the year. Please pack and prepare accordingly. This year we've reserved a group campsite for both Friday and Saturday night. The information is as follows:

Tanglewood: Near Van Dusen Canyon Road (3N79). BBQ grill, fire ring, tables, pit toilet. No trash collection. 7,542', 40 people; 8 vehicles; 25' space length.

We've contacted the Ranger Station and have been informed that the vehicle limit is loosely enforced but we are to adhere to the person limit. The fire ring allows us to have a real fire this year as opposed to the "lantern fires" of the past. "Pack It In, Pack It Out" will be enforced. Let's leave a good impression and leave the campground in better shape than when we got it. Due to limited space, camping will be given on a "first come, first serve" basis.

Getting There:
34.29222, -116.86444
34°17'32"N, 116°51'52"W

Turn onto Van Dusen Canyon Road (Forest Route 3N09) and drive for 4 miles. Turn right onto Forest Route 3N16 and travel approximately 2 miles. Take a right on Forest Route 3N79 and continue approximately 0.8 miles to the campground

Please sign up and designate which run you'd like to join and if you are interested in camping.

[sparky]

1. sparky: mild, camping(fri/sat) *Trail Leader*
2. rocket-scientist: mild, camping(fri/sat)
3. rivethead242: hard, camping(fri/sat) *Trail Leader*
4. Johnnie: stock, camping(fri/sat) *Trail Leader*
5. Kmillan: hard, camping(fri/sat)
6. amocat 777: stock
7. willia12: hard, camping(fri/sat)
8-11. Scuba+3(AP): hard, camping(fri/sat) *Trail Leader**Tail Gunner*
12. BattleWagon: hard, camping(fri/sat)
13. j-money$$$: hard, camping(fri/sat)
14. awsumdc: hard *Tail Gunner*
15. cb77DEMELLO: hard, camping(fri/sat)
16. bajadan: hard
17. thehackman15: hard, camping(fri/sat)
18. simigeology: mild
19. bake_mono: mild, camping(fri/sat)
20. BASEjumper: hard, camping(fri/sat)
21. cltypes32: mild, camping(fri/sat)
22. J41: mild, camping(fri/sat)
23. Dlar4x4: hard
24. mudslinger: hard
25. vistataco: mild, camping(sat) *Tail Gunner*
26. bzag: mild, camping(fri/sat)
27. tacoeng: hard
28. whatupdep: hard
29. sr5trd99: hard
30. pelon17: mild, camping(sat)
31. graymatter72: stock, camping(sat)
32. TacomaBlue: mild, camping(sat)
33. mikemirowitz: hard, camping(fri/sat)
34. Smiling Jim: hard
35. dirtybird33: mild, camping(sat)
36. jaystaco: mild, camping(sat)

[rocket-scientist]

I'm in. Mild run. IPad not cooperating on copying the list. Camping fri/sat

[rivethead242]

This is not an event you want to miss...

Big Bear is one of the more popular runs of the year. Not only does the SBNF have a lot to offer trail wise, it's a great place to escape the summer heat. This year we are raising the bar in more ways than one. In addition to the group campground we have reserved, we will also be having a raffle! That's right, a chance to win some nice stuff from our generous sponsors. Each driver (one per vehicle) will receive one free raffle ticket.


List of confirmed sponsors donating to the raffle

All Pro Off-Road



Off Road Wharehouse



Land Pirates Off Road



TOYTEC



VIAIR Corp



KarTek Offroad



Trail Gear



Ruffstuff Specialties

Keep your eyes open as this post will change as more sponsors confirm their participation!

[Johnnie]

1. sparky: mild, camping(fri/sat)
2. Rivethhead242: hard, camping (fri/sat)
3. Johnnie: Prerunner , group camping Fri/Sat night
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[Johnnie]

Michael, you mentioned mines. Is the easy run going to be a different route this year from what we did last year?

[KMillan]

I'll be making the trek down for this one...

1. sparky: mild, camping(fri/sat)
2. Rivethhead242: hard, camping (fri/sat)
3. Johnnie: Prerunner , group camping Fri/Sat night
4. KMillan: hard, camping (fri/sat)
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[rivethead242]

Originally Posted by KMillan

I'll be making the trek down for this one...

Glad to hear you are going to make the long trip down south!

[KMillan]

Originally Posted by rivethead242

Glad to hear you are going to make the long trip down south!

Yeah, couldn't pass up the opportunity, I had a blast last time I was down in Big Bear for Takeover

[amocat 777]

Count me in for the mild run. Sounds like a good time. Don't know about camping yet. Probably just saturday run.

[willia12]

I'm in! This will be my first running since shipping my truck back to the states. Plan to Camp Friday and Saturday. Excited!

[Scuba]

1. sparky: mild, camping(fri/sat)
2. Rivethhead242: hard, camping (fri/sat)
3. Johnnie: Prerunner , group camping Fri/Sat night
4. KMillan: hard, camping (fri/sat)
5. Scuba + 3 trucks (AP crew): Hard. Camping (Friday/ Saturday)
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[BattleWagon]

I plan on being in Big Bear the weekend before. If all goes well ill be up there for this too.

1. sparky: mild, camping(fri/sat)
2. Rivethhead242: hard, camping (fri/sat)
3. Johnnie: Prerunner , group camping Fri/Sat night
4. KMillan: hard, camping (fri/sat)
5. Scuba + 3 trucks (AP crew): Hard. Camping (Friday/ Saturday)
6.Battlewgon: Hard Fri/Sat
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[sparky]

Originally Posted by willia12

I'm in! This will be my first running since shipping my truck back to the states. Plan to Camp Friday and Saturday. Excited!

Dude! It's been way too long! I was there for your first TTORA run in Anza. I'm the green Tacoma that camped the last night in Fish Creek. Glad to see you're back in town. We have a lot of things going on throughout the year. Hopefully we'll get to see more of you.

Originally Posted by BattleWagon

I plan on being in Big Bear the weekend before. If all goes well ill be up there for this too.

1. sparky: mild, camping(fri/sat)
2. Rivethhead242: hard, camping (fri/sat)
3. Johnnie: Prerunner , group camping Fri/Sat night
4. KMillan: hard, camping (fri/sat)
5. Scuba + 3 trucks (AP crew): Hard. Camping (Friday/ Saturday)
6.Battlewgon: Hard Fri/Sat
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You mean to tell me I actually get to wheel with you? It's too late to break your last record for canceling.

Originally Posted by BattleWagon

Dishpan Group
1. sparky
2. rivethead242
3. J-Money
4. Battlewagon (already out)
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[rivethead242]

Originally Posted by sparky

It's too late to break your last record for canceling.

[j-money$$$]

I'm in

1. sparky: mild, camping(fri/sat)
2. Rivethhead242: hard, camping (fri/sat)
3. Johnnie: Prerunner , group camping Fri/Sat night
4. KMillan: hard, camping (fri/sat)
5. Scuba + 3 trucks (AP crew): Hard. Camping (Friday/ Saturday)
6.Battlewgon: Hard Fri/Sat
7. j-money: hard Friday&saturday

[ShowStop]

1. sparky: mild, camping(fri/sat)
2. rocket-scientist: mild, camping(fri/sat)
3. rivethead242: hard, camping(fri/sat)
4. Johnnie: stock, camping(fri/sat)
5. Kmillan: hard, camping(fri/sat)
6. amocat 777: stock
7. willia12: hard, camping(fri/sat)
8. Scuba+3(AP): hard, camping(fri/sat)
9. BattleWagon: hard, camping(fri/sat)
10. J-Money: hard, camping(fri/sat)
11. Awsumdc: hard
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[willia12]

Yeah man I remember. I am stoked too! The truck is probally I little rustier than you remember it

Thanks for putting me down for the Hard Run too.

[BattleWagon]

Originally Posted by sparky

You mean to tell me I actually get to wheel with you? It's too late to break your last record for canceling.

yayaya..

[strykersd]

Aw, I'll be in New York that weekend. Have fun guys!

[SANDYRUNNER]

the day after i go to oregon ill be there next year

[baja dan]

what day are u guys doing john bull if saturday count me in

[sparky]

There will be a group running John Bull on Saturday and most likely a night run, too. And I'll want to run it on Sunday.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by Johnnie

Michael, you mentioned mines. Is the easy run going to be a different route this year from what we did last year?

I'm thinking I adding more of the north side. We'll play it by year.

[Johnnie]

Originally Posted by sparky

I'm thinking I adding more of the north side. We'll play it by year.

That would be great. I'd like to see new areas of Big Bear.

Also, if there's an extra seat or two in another truck I'd be willing to hop in and ride along on a more difficult trail if there isn't enough trucks for the easy run.

[baja dan]

put me down for john bull on sturday

[justinh]

so is anything happening on Sunday? We are new to the area (like so new that i am sitting in a hotel in Barstow right now and moving into our place in Chino Hills tomorrow). Coming from Atlanta. I would love to bring my son out and camp saturday night but my wife has her white coat ceremony saturday and i'm pretty sure she'd kill me if i tried to take her camping after that. However, I'd love to get out and explore the area.

I've got a lifted 3rd gen 4runner on 285's but stock skids and no sliders, honestly I am not looking for anything real crazy anyway, just scenic back country stuff.

[vegastoy]

How's the camping situation shaping up? I see there's more than 8 vehicles already but what about people? I'm thinking about coming down but I would definately want to camp.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by justinh

I've got a lifted 3rd gen 4runner on 285's but stock skids and no sliders, honestly I am not looking for anything real crazy anyway, just scenic back country stuff.

The easier backcountry run will be on Saturday. If anybody throws anything together on Sunday, it's usually a difficult run.

Originally Posted by vegastoy

How's the camping situation shaping up? I see there's more than 8 vehicles already but what about people? I'm thinking about coming down but I would definately want to camp.

The camping is first come, first serve. The earlier you get there on Saturday, the better. Camping is also available within minutes of the main campground.

[simigeology]

I am in for the mild run on Saturday. Can't afford to break my junk after paying college tuition for two of my kids