4XInnovations Tacoma Tube Winch Bumper

SAR_Squid79 · 04-29-2007, 05:42 PM

Last Weekend (21 - 22 Apr) I went up to 4XInnovations a.k.a. Traxman25's a.k.a. Adam's shop to fabricate a front bumper for my truck.

It took us 2 days (about 20 total shop hours) to get it done, but Adam came through for me once again, and delivered exactly what I wanted!

Adam was very patient with me (going behind him with my tape-measure to double check his every measurement), and tasking me every time he could. He was definitely the brains of the operation doing all the calculations, bending, notching, and welding. He could see that I was chomping at the bit to participate so he gratiously tasked me with cutting, grinding, drilling, and measuring every chance he got.

Day 1:

Reinforcing the front of the frame:

We stole the idea from here:
http://www.nwtoys.com/tech/frame-endcap

Next we had to figure out how to attach the front bumper, and fabricate mounting brackets that utilized stock mounting points:

Main Cross-bar for the winch mount:

DAY 2:

Mocking up the top cross-bar, up tubes, and stinger:

Finishing everything up:

SAR_Squid79 · 04-29-2007, 05:47 PM

CURRENT:

I have fabricated brackets, and mounted LED turn signals:

I am having the bumper powdercoated later this week.

While the bumper is at powdercoat, I'm going to rattle-can black all the white behind the bumper. I'll be sure to post pics when she's 100% completed.

Texan1983 · 04-29-2007, 06:19 PM

looks badass Jamie. glad you got one before moab. it will be used and tested out there!

**traxman25** · 04-29-2007, 08:58 PM

I can't wait to see it PCed Jamie!

Thanks for coming out.

wslytoy · 04-29-2007, 09:13 PM

bitchin stinger!

UKMyers · 04-29-2007, 09:27 PM

Ditch those turn signals!! I bought new sockets at Autozone and wired them up to make my park lights double as turn signals. Nice looking bumper!

**traxman25** · 04-29-2007, 09:34 PM

Nice turn signal brackets BTW Jamie, I'm glad you were able to get something and cut off those last minute hack jobs off so easliy. They look A LOT better too.

SAR_Squid79 · 04-29-2007, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKMyers

Ditch those turn signals!! I bought new sockets at Autozone and wired them up to make my park lights double as turn signals. Nice looking bumper!

Na - I like 'em and I'm gonna keep 'em. I thought about the Parking Light mod, but I like this better.

I just need to figure out something better than zip-ties for the License Plate.

SAR_Squid79 · 04-29-2007, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traxman25

Nice turn signal brackets BTW Jamie, I'm glad you were able to get something and cut off those last minute hack jobs off so easliy. They look A LOT better too.

HA!

...You know - one of those "last minute hack jobs" was actually welded on there pretty good and deep. 3 of them broke off clean and easy, but the one kicked my ass for a minute.

I just cut out a piece of sheet metal to mount the light to, and then drilled and tapped a couple of holes, so the lights fit in from behind the tubing and are a little recessed (and protected). Came out looking cleaner than I thought.

mudferret · 04-29-2007, 09:43 PM

Looks good; The mounting and cross bracing solution is a great idea. I may have to use that for inspiration when I replace the stock junk. Never was happy with mounting on my old ride.

mojavegold · 04-30-2007, 12:39 AM

Looks great! I like the frame brackets also. It looks like someone was really using their head on this one.

A-GUEST · 04-30-2007, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKMyers

Ditch those turn signals!! I bought new sockets at Autozone and wired them up to make my park lights double as turn signals. Nice looking bumper!

link? they lok fine for now.. better than me runnin around w/o any..

NICE BUMPER

Interex · 04-30-2007, 10:02 AM

Looks good, Jamie. Nice and tight on that front end with a killer stinger! I really like those mounts in the reinforced stock locations.

SAR_Squid79 · 05-04-2007, 04:38 PM

BACK FROM POWDER COAT!

Dropped it off at the shop Wednesday morning - got it back this afternoon. The place put on a double coat of flat black for $90.
Like a sore dick - you can't beat that!

...Now I need a winch and some lights!

**traxman25** · 05-04-2007, 04:47 PM

Looks SWEET Jamie!

Interex · 05-04-2007, 04:56 PM

VERY clean! Me likes!

mojavegold · 05-04-2007, 05:30 PM

Looks sweeeeeeet!

badmoonrising · 05-04-2007, 06:58 PM

looks real good.

NorcalPR · 05-04-2007, 08:31 PM

Lovin it.

Those manual hubs look purdy

KMAN · 05-16-2007, 02:31 PM

[/center]

...Now I need a winch and some lights![/quote]

I thought I saw my truck for a second.......Just need to get a couple dents in the bed and their twins........!
Nice job on the conversion btw....

How's "Great Mistakes" doing?

DentedTacoma · 05-16-2007, 02:49 PM

Just a question, dont you think that thing will get pushed up into your grille? Are the only points that it is connected are the 4 tubes to the front crossmember you made. It seems like a blow to either the sides near the fenders or the top of the bumper wouldnt turn out well. Is there more bracign than I see?

SAR_Squid79 · 05-16-2007, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMAN

I thought I saw my truck for a second.......

YOU WISH!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMAN

Nice job on the conversion btw....

How's "Great Mistakes" doing?

Thanks - I'm just glad that I got it done.

Great Lakes is the same, but at least it's finally thawing out!

SAR_Squid79 · 05-16-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DentedTacoma

Just a question, dont you think that thing will get pushed up into your grille? Are the only points that it is connected are the 4 tubes to the front crossmember you made. It seems like a blow to either the sides near the fenders or the top of the bumper wouldnt turn out well. Is there more bracign than I see?

I don't forsee it getting pushed back into my grille or radiator. I'd have to hit something EXTREMELY HARD. It's braced and mounted about the same as an ARB bull bar - into the front of the reinforced frame rails. Basically my thoughts are that if I hit something hard enough to cave this bumper, I've got bigger things to worry about than the bumper or grille, and it's still about 100x more protection that the stock tupperware, and it'll hold a winch.

...AND Adam @ 4xInnovations needed to standardize the way it mounted, and wanted to use OEM mounting points, so he can reproduce and sell Tacoma bumpers

**traxman25** · 05-17-2007, 11:29 AM

What Jamie said... He'd have to fold the frame, 4 inches back from the front (IE behind the body mount) to fold up the bumper. At that point you'll be crushing the rad and fan and a ton of other things just with the body and frame rail (trust me I've done it). I was not worried about the broken rad/alt. ext. as much as I was my separated shoulder (It took 65+ MPH into a concrete wall to do it too, I am not claiming any bumper can stand up to that).

**bray** · 05-18-2007, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAR_Squid79

I don't forsee it getting pushed back into my grille or radiator. I'd have to hit something EXTREMELY HARD. It's braced and mounted about the same as an ARB bull bar - into the front of the reinforced frame rails. Basically my thoughts are that if I hit something hard enough to cave this bumper, I've got bigger things to worry about than the bumper or grille, and it's still about 100x more protection that the stock tupperware, and it'll hold a winch.

...AND Adam @ 4xInnovations needed to standardize the way it mounted, and wanted to use OEM mounting points, so he can reproduce and sell Tacoma bumpers

There's no way the bumper is gonna fold by mounting points or by construction. I have a little question about how low the tubes for the winch mounts are located. I'm not saying it's bad, It just looks a 'little' low for approach angles. When I installed my winch in my CBI I had to raise my hood and remove my grill to get the winch in the mounting point. This is 'high approach angle'.

That is one cool bumper you have there. Whatever you hit 'loses'.

TacoDell · 05-18-2007, 10:31 AM

Looks good... good job

SAR_Squid79 · 05-30-2007, 09:31 PM

In Moab last week, I definitely put this bumper through its paces.

There were a couple of times that I was a little worried about the approach angle, and that the bumper wasn't going to clear when approaching steep climbs and ledges . . .

Turns out that the approach angle is EXACTLY perfect. It never hit once on an ascent.

As far as it's strength - there was one time when I came down really hard on the bumper (on Moab Rim) and just about the full weight of the front of my truck was on it, and it didn't budge AT ALL. I've got a nice scrape in my powdercoat now, but the bumper held like a stone wall.

Mossyrocks · 05-30-2007, 09:52 PM

looks good man.

Renaud33 · 05-31-2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAR_Squid79

As far as it's strength - there was one time when I came down really hard on the bumper (on Moab Rim) and just about the full weight of the front of my truck was on it, and it didn't budge AT ALL.

As expected from one of Adam's products right?

Can you PM me a link to your Moab pictures.

SAR_Squid79 · 08-20-2007, 05:46 PM

I FINALLY HAVE A WINCH!!!!

It came today, and I couldn't resist mounting it immediately!!

www.winchline.com

Superwinch EPi9.0 Winch
3/8" x 100' Synthetic Viking Combo Line w/ Winch Safety Thimble
Spidertrax Aluminum Hawse Fairlead
Superwinch Snatch Block
3/8" x 50' Synthetic Viking Trail Line Extension
3/4" Shackle
Winchline Recovery Bag

ALL THAT SHIPPED FOR $1064.06

Fits the bumper like a glove. Once again, Adam proves that he knows his shit! When I first sat the winch on the bumper it looked like the holes didn't line up AT ALL !

For a second I felt like I wanted to cry.

But when I swallowed the lump in my throat and put the bolts through it lined up PERFECTLY!

I have 4 KC Titanium Slim-Lites sitting right here, that I'm going to finish off the bumper with later this week - stay tuned.

04-29-2007, 05:42 PM	#1
SAR_Squid79 SoCal Vice Pres. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,712	4XInnovations Tacoma Tube Winch Bumper Last Weekend (21 - 22 Apr) I went up to 4XInnovations a.k.a. Traxman25's a.k.a. Adam's shop to fabricate a front bumper for my truck. It took us 2 days (about 20 total shop hours) to get it done, but Adam came through for me once again, and delivered exactly what I wanted! Adam was very patient with me (going behind him with my tape-measure to double check his every measurement), and tasking me every time he could. He was definitely the brains of the operation doing all the calculations, bending, notching, and welding. He could see that I was chomping at the bit to participate so he gratiously tasked me with cutting, grinding, drilling, and measuring every chance he got. Day 1: Reinforcing the front of the frame: We stole the idea from here: http://www.nwtoys.com/tech/frame-endcap Next we had to figure out how to attach the front bumper, and fabricate mounting brackets that utilized stock mounting points: Main Cross-bar for the winch mount: DAY 2: Mocking up the top cross-bar, up tubes, and stinger: Finishing everything up: __________________ ~Jamie 2000 Tacoma TRD 4WD PreRunner Supercharged. Locked. Armored. Mountain: She can crawl it. Ass: She can haul it. *"Roads? Where we're going we don't need . . . roads."* ~Dr. Emmett L. Brown My Rig My Trailer 4xInnovations Last edited by SAR_Squid79; 09-21-2009 at 05:06 PM.

04-29-2007, 05:47 PM	#2
SAR_Squid79 SoCal Vice Pres. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,712	CURRENT: I have fabricated brackets, and mounted LED turn signals: I am having the bumper powdercoated later this week. While the bumper is at powdercoat, I'm going to rattle-can black all the white behind the bumper. I'll be sure to post pics when she's 100% completed. __________________ ~Jamie 2000 Tacoma TRD 4WD PreRunner Supercharged. Locked. Armored. Mountain: She can crawl it. Ass: She can haul it. *"Roads? Where we're going we don't need . . . roads."* ~Dr. Emmett L. Brown My Rig My Trailer 4xInnovations Last edited by SAR_Squid79; 09-03-2007 at 07:47 PM.

04-29-2007, 06:19 PM	#3
Texan1983 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ames, ia Posts: 1,218	looks badass Jamie. glad you got one before moab. it will be used and tested out there! __________________ 87 4runner SAS work in progress... 04 Dodge 2500 quad cab H.O. Diesel

04-29-2007, 08:58 PM	#4
traxman25 4xInnovations.com TTORA GOLD Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Platteville, WI Posts: 492	I can't wait to see it PCed Jamie! Thanks for coming out. __________________ 4x Innovations - Quality Custom Toyota based tube products at a fair price Check out the the 87 Runner trail rig. Do you ever say: 4x4 = $X$ Why do I always have to have the most expensive hobbies? Head over to 4x Innovations! Toll Free @ 1-608-348-4880 -Adam-

04-29-2007, 09:13 PM	#5
wslytoy I just got laid... off. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madison, Ms Posts: 4,876	bitchin stinger! __________________ 05' TRD 4x4(gas guzzler) 85' 4Runner(commuter/project truck) 85' 4Runner Build Up Thread New Forum Rule When in doubt, bring Wes' name into the argument to turn attention from yourself. Not sure of what to post b/c you're an attention posting whore? Call Wes' intelligence into question... Always good for a little snicker. And if you act fast enough, it's guaranteed to make you feel better about YOU.

04-29-2007, 09:27 PM	#6
UKMyers Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Suisun City, CA Posts: 200	Ditch those turn signals!! I bought new sockets at Autozone and wired them up to make my park lights double as turn signals. Nice looking bumper! __________________ 94 4Runner 5sp 3.slow SASed, Locked, Dual Cases, fully armored, the usual crap for rocks 2006 Taco TRD offroad 6sp Access Cab 3" Revtek, 285 BFG's, Panther wheels, Billet Grill, Limo Tint, Borla Catback, Volant Intake, PSC1 tuned on the dyno

04-29-2007, 09:34 PM	#7
traxman25 4xInnovations.com TTORA GOLD Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Platteville, WI Posts: 492	Nice turn signal brackets BTW Jamie, I'm glad you were able to get something and cut off those last minute hack jobs off so easliy. They look A LOT better too. __________________ 4x Innovations - Quality Custom Toyota based tube products at a fair price Check out the the 87 Runner trail rig. Do you ever say: 4x4 = $X$ Why do I always have to have the most expensive hobbies? Head over to 4x Innovations! Toll Free @ 1-608-348-4880 -Adam-

04-30-2007, 12:39 AM	#11
mojavegold Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,364	Looks great! I like the frame brackets also. It looks like someone was really using their head on this one. __________________ 05 Gold SB DC 4x4, Hoes, TC arms, TSB leaf pack, Bilstein 5150's, Timbren bumps, limit straps, locker mod, locker skid plate, one piece rear driveshaft, blah, blah, blah Definition of the day: Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future

04-30-2007, 10:02 AM	#13
Interex Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,143	Looks good, Jamie. Nice and tight on that front end with a killer stinger! I really like those mounts in the reinforced stock locations. __________________ Harold '07 Tundra Double Cab Limited 5.7L '99 Tacoma Ext. Cab V6 non-TRD - Converted PreRunner -> 4X4 TRD E-locker, Man. hubs, independently controlled ADD diff, Aussie Front Locker, Warn XD9000i, CBI Bumper, 4xInnovations Sliders, Custom bedbar, 16x8 ProComp 1079's, Donahoe CO's, Chevy 63" Springs, Bilstein 5150 10" Resi Shocks, 3" RB BL, Hayden tranny cooler '94 Toyota Supra Turbo PT76-GTS, Auto->6 speed '87 Toyota Supra Turbo 4X4 Conversion Thread

05-04-2007, 04:38 PM	#14
SAR_Squid79 SoCal Vice Pres. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,712	Back In Black! BACK FROM POWDER COAT! Dropped it off at the shop Wednesday morning - got it back this afternoon. The place put on a double coat of flat black for $90. *Like a sore dick* - you can't beat that! ...Now I need a winch and some lights! __________________ ~Jamie 2000 Tacoma TRD 4WD PreRunner Supercharged. Locked. Armored. Mountain: She can crawl it. Ass: She can haul it. *"Roads? Where we're going we don't need . . . roads."* ~Dr. Emmett L. Brown My Rig My Trailer 4xInnovations Last edited by SAR_Squid79; 05-06-2007 at 05:45 PM.

05-04-2007, 04:47 PM	#15
traxman25 4xInnovations.com TTORA GOLD Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Platteville, WI Posts: 492	Looks SWEET Jamie! __________________ 4x Innovations - Quality Custom Toyota based tube products at a fair price Check out the the 87 Runner trail rig. Do you ever say: 4x4 = $X$ Why do I always have to have the most expensive hobbies? Head over to 4x Innovations! Toll Free @ 1-608-348-4880 -Adam-

05-04-2007, 04:56 PM	#16
Interex Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,143	VERY clean! Me likes! __________________ Harold '07 Tundra Double Cab Limited 5.7L '99 Tacoma Ext. Cab V6 non-TRD - Converted PreRunner -> 4X4 TRD E-locker, Man. hubs, independently controlled ADD diff, Aussie Front Locker, Warn XD9000i, CBI Bumper, 4xInnovations Sliders, Custom bedbar, 16x8 ProComp 1079's, Donahoe CO's, Chevy 63" Springs, Bilstein 5150 10" Resi Shocks, 3" RB BL, Hayden tranny cooler '94 Toyota Supra Turbo PT76-GTS, Auto->6 speed '87 Toyota Supra Turbo 4X4 Conversion Thread

05-04-2007, 05:30 PM	#17
mojavegold Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,364	Looks sweeeeeeet! __________________ 05 Gold SB DC 4x4, Hoes, TC arms, TSB leaf pack, Bilstein 5150's, Timbren bumps, limit straps, locker mod, locker skid plate, one piece rear driveshaft, blah, blah, blah Definition of the day: Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future

05-04-2007, 06:58 PM	#18
badmoonrising Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: southern california Posts: 2,460	looks real good. __________________ Proud member of the SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TACOMA CLUB SCTC what the fuck is resale value?

05-04-2007, 08:31 PM	#19
NorcalPR NorCal Vice Prez Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: In Cali Posts: 8,485	Lovin it. Those manual hubs look purdy __________________ Hi, my name is Phill, above are things I say

05-16-2007, 02:31 PM	#20
KMAN Toyota Trail Rider Join Date: May 2006 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 416	[/center] ...Now I need a winch and some lights![/quote] I thought I saw my truck for a second.......Just need to get a couple dents in the bed and their twins........! Nice job on the conversion btw.... How's "Great Mistakes" doing? __________________ Patrick Kromrey 1998 Toyota Tacoma SR5 TRD w/e-locker Fabtech performance coilovers with AllPro 650# springs Custom 7-leaf packs w/N85 shocks 4.88's with ARB front locker, PolyPerformance rear chromo shafts 1/2 hp On-board air system Leer hard-top (Not for wheelin') 285/75/16 Treadwright "MTR's" on 16x8 OMF/Weld beadlocks 2" PA BL Winch/syth line Home-made front/rear tube bumpers, sliders, skids Etc,etc.....and a $4 digital walmart clock.... Last edited by KMAN; 05-16-2007 at 02:34 PM.

05-16-2007, 02:49 PM	#21
DentedTacoma Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wilton, ME Posts: 1,045	Just a question, dont you think that thing will get pushed up into your grille? Are the only points that it is connected are the 4 tubes to the front crossmember you made. It seems like a blow to either the sides near the fenders or the top of the bumper wouldnt turn out well. Is there more bracign than I see? __________________ RIP - 1998 Tacoma SR5 (to the crusher) 1985 4Runner SR5 with a 22RTE

05-17-2007, 11:29 AM	#24
traxman25 4xInnovations.com TTORA GOLD Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Platteville, WI Posts: 492	What Jamie said... He'd have to fold the frame, 4 inches back from the front (IE behind the body mount) to fold up the bumper. At that point you'll be crushing the rad and fan and a ton of other things just with the body and frame rail (trust me I've done it). I was not worried about the broken rad/alt. ext. as much as I was my separated shoulder (It took 65+ MPH into a concrete wall to do it too, I am not claiming any bumper can stand up to that). __________________ 4x Innovations - Quality Custom Toyota based tube products at a fair price Check out the the 87 Runner trail rig. Do you ever say: 4x4 = $X$ Why do I always have to have the most expensive hobbies? Head over to 4x Innovations! Toll Free @ 1-608-348-4880 -Adam-

05-18-2007, 10:31 AM	#26
TacoDell Fawking Fly's Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hemet/SoCal Posts: 8,084	Looks good... good job __________________ '00 Taco SR5 V6, 5-SP, 4X, and some extras... My Garage

05-30-2007, 09:31 PM	#27
SAR_Squid79 SoCal Vice Pres. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,712	Put to the test In Moab last week, I definitely put this bumper through its paces. There were a couple of times that I was a little worried about the approach angle, and that the bumper wasn't going to clear when approaching steep climbs and ledges . . . Turns out that the approach angle is EXACTLY perfect. It never hit once on an ascent. As far as it's strength - there was one time when I came down really hard on the bumper (on Moab Rim) and just about the full weight of the front of my truck was on it, and it didn't budge AT ALL. I've got a nice scrape in my powdercoat now, but the bumper held like a stone wall. __________________ ~Jamie 2000 Tacoma TRD 4WD PreRunner Supercharged. Locked. Armored. Mountain: She can crawl it. Ass: She can haul it. *"Roads? Where we're going we don't need . . . roads."* ~Dr. Emmett L. Brown My Rig My Trailer 4xInnovations

05-30-2007, 09:52 PM	#28
Mossyrocks Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Calhoun, TN Posts: 2,169	looks good man. __________________ Toy-97 4runner limited... linked, chopped, locked, and caged. DD/tow rig-2010 Tundra Platinum... Tn chapter Tread Lightly

08-20-2007, 05:46 PM	#30
SAR_Squid79 SoCal Vice Pres. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,712	I FINALLY HAVE A WINCH!!!! It came today, and I couldn't resist mounting it immediately!! www.winchline.com Superwinch EPi9.0 Winch 3/8" x 100' Synthetic Viking Combo Line w/ Winch Safety Thimble Spidertrax Aluminum Hawse Fairlead Superwinch Snatch Block 3/8" x 50' Synthetic Viking Trail Line Extension 3/4" Shackle Winchline Recovery Bag ALL THAT SHIPPED FOR $1064.06 Fits the bumper like a glove. Once again, Adam proves that he knows his shit! When I first sat the winch on the bumper it looked like the holes didn't line up AT ALL ! For a second I felt like I wanted to cry. But when I swallowed the lump in my throat and put the bolts through it lined up PERFECTLY! I have 4 KC Titanium Slim-Lites sitting right here, that I'm going to finish off the bumper with later this week - stay tuned. __________________ ~Jamie 2000 Tacoma TRD 4WD PreRunner Supercharged. Locked. Armored. Mountain: She can crawl it. Ass: She can haul it. *"Roads? Where we're going we don't need . . . roads."* ~Dr. Emmett L. Brown My Rig My Trailer 4xInnovations

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