Frame is trashed.

[casaus19]

Started pulling my eng after name brand cai allowed an undescribable amount of fine dirt into the intake and throttle body killing the eng.

In doing so i have found two broken motor mounts and the frame is pulled in and angled about an inch on both sides. The majority of the tweak looks like it is behing both motor mounts. Running camburg lt with coil bucket braces from tc.

Stuck as to where to go from here. I want to keep 4x4.

Find a stub that a junk yard will sell me at a decent price, or someone fairly close to western co that has done a sas and still has their stub or build entire new frame rails???

Been searching build threads like crazy.

[Scuba]

Could try getting a hold of this guy:
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=993307

[BLACKHAWK250]

build a engine cage and kill the problem permanently. as for the cai could u explain what happened? im afraid of that happening, thinking maybe throwing a sleeve over the filter to add to the protection

[casaus19]

building a cage is ok with me, but first i have to figure out how to get the bow out of the frame to get some stress off the eng and everything else.

On the cai, i have had it for almost 2 years and cleaned it regularly following the procedure to the T. Had to clean the throttle body out once or twice a year depending on how much offroading i did because of the dirt/oil sludge that would build up. Its a dry element so no oil whatsoever. Had no issues until after the last cleaning, and im not sure if the filter itself is bad or the sleeve that i put on it killed it.

If it was the the sleeve on the filter then in my mind what happened is the sleeve filters dirt down to a finer micron than the filter itself, hence letting every dust particle through the filter and into the eng.

I am honestly going to go back to the stock airbox and filter setup. it robs a few hp and torque but thats worth saving another engine.

[Land Pirates Off Road]

Originally Posted by BLACKHAWK250

build a engine cage and kill the problem permanently. as for the cai could u explain what happened? im afraid of that happening, thinking maybe throwing a sleeve over the filter to add to the protection

The sleeve helps, but we run the 7 ply aFe filters to help with the dust. The 5 ply allows dirt to come in.

Best way to help with dirt, is to run an oil / cotton filter, stock box, Snorkel... =-)

As for the frame...

Take it to a auto body shop that has a frame machine. They can pull it back into specks. Then build your engine cage. If your driving fast enough to bed your frame in, then you really need a full roll cage.

[BLACKHAWK250]

Originally Posted by Land Pirates Off Road

The sleeve helps, but we run the 7 ply aFe filters to help with the dust. The 5 ply allows dirt to come in.

Best way to help with dirt, is to run an oil / cotton filter, stock box, Snorkel... =-)

i have afe's dry filter in take set up, not sure if it came with 7 or 5 ply. but u think i should put oil on it or leav the intake dry?

[nelson18matt]

Originally Posted by BLACKHAWK250

i have afe's dry filter in take set up, not sure if it came with 7 or 5 ply. but u think i should put oil on it or leav the intake dry?

dont oil it dude since it's not supposed to be oiled. get the pre filter wrap. i have it and it helps keep unwanted shit out

[BLACKHAWK250]

Originally Posted by nelson18matt

dont oil it dude since it's not supposed to be oiled. get the pre filter wrap. i have it and it helps keep unwanted shit out

getting it now... hah

[Land Pirates Off Road]

YEAH! Do not oil the dry filters! But we run the 7 ply that needs to be oiled. In the silt beads, the 5 ply will actually let dust through. We run a filter sock on everything!

=-)

[Wainiha]

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[casaus19]

Yes im sure that jump didn't do my truck any justice. (that landing hurt really bad too!!) But insurance is covering the repairs for the frame shop to get the frame back to spec. Then i will be on to an engine cage. Right now i just have a main hoop and door bars for a cage ran out of money to finish it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nk-vVIiTTw

good link to a video of our back yard

[Land Pirates Off Road]

Well, that is a start! Just remember to not to try to save money when it comes to safety... LOL Build it right and you will have a fun but safe toy!

[me_tu05]

Advice from a really good mechanic that has passed, "use OEM parts." Most aftermarket filter companies are concered with air flow, not filtration. A oem paper filter will do the best filtering.

[Adrn1986]

Old thread but what the heck...

I have a Volant intake. It has a box around the filter similar to the stock air box. It has about 1/2" of clearance between the tub and the box. So I make a grommet out of rubber to keep out the majority of the hot air from the engine compartment. The box has an opening on the side so I packed a few layers of UNI filter between the fender and the box.

Here are some pics.

[Glory]

Frame shop can pull the frame straight/in spec. Then cut/plate the area around the motor mounts. Then cage the engine and your done.

[casaus19]

With a change of jobs, i was able to get the eng back in plated the frame with 3/16" didn't have time to build any brace over the eng. Frame shop said it was back in spec and have been using my truck as a daily driver with very little offroading and frame has gone back and is actually getting worse as it buckles.

Found a junk yard with a decent frame that im going to do a frame stub and start from scratch doing solid mounts plating and bracing before i even off road it once.