Project Hillclimber - Page 3 - TTORA Forum
Toyota Territory Off-Roaders AssociationToyota Territory Off-Roaders Asso
ciationToyota Territory Off-Roaders Association
     


Go Back   TTORA Forum > Regional Forums > By State > Indiana > Tech
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Welcome to the TTORA Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

ATTENTION: In an on-going effort to keep this forum spam free, the Forum Admin approves every new account before giving any posting rights to new users. Accounts are normally approved within 24 hours. Sorry for any inconvenience, but verification of every new account is what will continue to keep this forum spam free.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-27-2008, 08:19 AM   #61
Bear
Veteran Member
 
Bear's Avatar
 
My Rig: 1997 Toyota Tacoma
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: state of confusion
Posts: 11,176
Default

I agree some with Derek regarding the clearance issue, but also I think you want your upper and lower links within a certain angle degree, otherwise you are going to create some binding issues as well.

I know You might say that if you increase that angle, you decrease the chance of the bars ever meeting or hitting. But what you create is the uppers and lowers "fighting", wanting to push the axle it two different directions.

If that makes sense to you, I would confirm that, as you know my experience on setting up a 4 link.
__________________
BEAR
OVERKILL IS AN UNDERRATED ACHIEVEMENT

Originally Posted by abbott
remember, in the world of cars and trucks, its not cubic inches, its cubic dollars.
GO SPURS GO!!!!
Bear is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-03-2008, 09:08 AM   #62
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

the new 3/16" thick steel center console replacement for the snap in plastic one with cup holders) is about 50% done. Maybe i can get some pics up......but they will probably be pics of the final product knowing me.
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2008, 09:35 AM   #63
Bear
Veteran Member
 
Bear's Avatar
 
My Rig: 1997 Toyota Tacoma
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: state of confusion
Posts: 11,176
Default

why 3/16" inch?
__________________
BEAR
OVERKILL IS AN UNDERRATED ACHIEVEMENT

Originally Posted by abbott
remember, in the world of cars and trucks, its not cubic inches, its cubic dollars.
GO SPURS GO!!!!
Bear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2008, 12:25 PM   #64
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

there wasnt any 1/2"
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2008, 05:34 PM   #65
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

finished the console plate....also learned how to spray paint something metal when its almost freezing outside. It involves a propane torch and a paint can just warm the metal up and spray, then ignite...the flammable part burns and the heat from the burning causes the paint to dry. (think 'cooking the alcohol off in a saucepan')

next up on the chopping block...the exhaust (this should be the final rendention, over a year of r&d on the true dual design), aiming to keep the true duals but add header cutouts and a full length design.
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:57 AM   #66
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason6746 View Post
even though i saw it already
hey you were the one with the camera, i just want pics of the way i was painting

Quote:
Originally Posted by DN1911 View Post
Bear you should feel honored, we were debating material thickness and decided we would go overkill with the 3/16 plate.

also with the angles and brackets. we plan on tacking everything really heavily and cycleing everything before it is final welded. Brian have asked DeMello if he would give you link lengths and angles?
i think your talking to me, the answer is not directly, i have pics of all the bracket locations and i can use the pics to determine exactly where all of the brackets go (top link...both ends, bottom links, panhard...both ends, steering box bracket) the only 'fun' part will be be doing the coilover towers.
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2008, 07:22 PM   #67
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

OK before......






The plate itself before install...........




after install........






another view





and the fun i have with french fries and Ketchup........

brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 06:15 AM   #68
muddertrucker99
Senior Member
 
muddertrucker99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Danville,Ky
Posts: 459
Default

I like the Victoria Secret in behind the console plate. The console plate turned out nicely. Took me awhile to notice it thou.
__________________
97 4runner Buds skids,Aussie locker(front),Arb locker(rear), Cooper stt's 285/75/16 on black steelies, Custom built bumper front by Hardnose welding and truck equipment!

98 tacoma sas'd gone
muddertrucker99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 10:36 AM   #69
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

no need to re-invent the wheel, i just wanted a sturdy platform for the air chuck, line pressure gauge and altimeter.
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 01:05 PM   #70
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

ordered the panhard mounts today (axle and frame).



axle tube diameter is 3" according to Pirate
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 01:19 PM   #71
Bear
Veteran Member
 
Bear's Avatar
 
My Rig: 1997 Toyota Tacoma
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: state of confusion
Posts: 11,176
Default

If i remember right, I was told all dana 44's have 3" diameter tubes, so that sounds right. where did you get the mount from? Ballistic? If so, I have the same one sitting on the shelf waiting.
__________________
BEAR
OVERKILL IS AN UNDERRATED ACHIEVEMENT

Originally Posted by abbott
remember, in the world of cars and trucks, its not cubic inches, its cubic dollars.
GO SPURS GO!!!!
Bear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2008, 12:58 PM   #72
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

yeah according to Pirate the reaaalllyyyy early ones were 2-3/4". yeah i got them from ballistic.










engine is 1GRFE
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2008, 07:36 AM   #73
twentyfootdaredevil
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 158
Default

The thing to remeber with a cartridge style joint is alot of times you dont need a spacer. When going with heims dont forget to add in the cost of the misalignment spacer.

Also alot of the cartridge style spacers are rebuildable....something to consider.

Heim joints do wear out so the bigger the better if you are going to use them!!
twentyfootdaredevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2008, 07:38 AM   #74
twentyfootdaredevil
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 158
Default

Oh yeah and I agree w/ Bear a poly joint should fit the bill for your panhard needs.

I would be interested to talk with you about your setup...give me a call someday if you get a chance
twentyfootdaredevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2008, 03:35 PM   #75
twentyfootdaredevil
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 158
Default

Yes...cartridge joints: flex joints, johnny joints basicaly they are the same.

btw a Summit Jimmy joint would work awesome as well.

before I get flamed....I do know the difference in these joints but for reference I lump these stlyle joints in the same catagory.
twentyfootdaredevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2008, 07:00 PM   #76
Hagan34
Pooh Bear
 
Hagan34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Eagle, CO
Posts: 680
Send a message via Yahoo to Hagan34
Default

Id use a hiem on the pan hard, I know dont seem like it moves much but if you got the drive side stuffed and passenger side is dropped i think you would be surprised at how much that pan hard moves both vertically and forward and aft. Remember unlike leafs a Link set up moves aft as the axle drops.


Just my
__________________
Michael
00 Taco 3RZ:TRD Blower, URD 2.4 pulley, Dana 44, 3 link, 37" MTRs, F/R ARB w/ 4.88, Marlin 4.7 Crawler
89 Supra: 2JZ-GTE swap 573 HP/ 565 Torque

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
Bear hasn't posted yet. I'm sure he broke something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
9)Multiple choice: "I don't need game" is code for:
A)"I carry ruffies."
B)"I'm a hit at HS dances b/c I have a driver's license"
C)"I am a registered sex offender."
D)"I have a slutty sister and 2 hot cousins."
E)"Being a youth leader at my chuch has it's advantages."
Hagan34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2008, 08:48 PM   #77
twentyfootdaredevil
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 158
Default

Okay start over...what suspension are we talking about here? Is it a 3 link w/ a panhard bar?

What is the weight of the rig?
roll center?
Link material?
Are you going with coils, coilovers or airshocks?
What will the rear suspension be?
Ride height?

So one of my concerns if we are talking about a 3 link is the paper thin frame rails. I am sure you plan to plate the frame but I wonder if another crossmember is in order.

Do you have a link to what you are mocking yours after?
twentyfootdaredevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2008, 12:15 AM   #78
Hagan34
Pooh Bear
 
Hagan34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Eagle, CO
Posts: 680
Send a message via Yahoo to Hagan34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by twentyfootdaredevil View Post
Okay start over...what suspension are we talking about here? Is it a 3 link w/ a panhard bar?
YES


What is the weight of the rig?
roll center?
Link material?
Are you going with coils, coilovers or airshocks? Coilovers
What will the rear suspension be?
Ride height?

So one of my concerns if we are talking about a 3 link is the paper thin frame rails. I am sure you plan to plate the frame but I wonder if another crossmember is in order.

Do you have a link to what you are mocking yours after?
At least this is what i got from the first couple post in this thread.
__________________
Michael
00 Taco 3RZ:TRD Blower, URD 2.4 pulley, Dana 44, 3 link, 37" MTRs, F/R ARB w/ 4.88, Marlin 4.7 Crawler
89 Supra: 2JZ-GTE swap 573 HP/ 565 Torque

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
Bear hasn't posted yet. I'm sure he broke something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
9)Multiple choice: "I don't need game" is code for:
A)"I carry ruffies."
B)"I'm a hit at HS dances b/c I have a driver's license"
C)"I am a registered sex offender."
D)"I have a slutty sister and 2 hot cousins."
E)"Being a youth leader at my chuch has it's advantages."
Hagan34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2008, 10:05 AM   #79
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DN1911 View Post
he is going to try and duplicate the Demello truck as much as possible from pictures

exactly
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 10:26 AM   #80
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

got the shaft in today splined diameter is 1.19" I have a feeling its going to be too small (such a waste but at least i can still use it to make a properly sized short side shaft, maybe have sunfire off road do it for me so they get the diameter right.....probably the only smart thing ive done so far)


got the panhard frame and axle mounts today they look good. (think ill use a heim with misalingment spacers)


got the exhaust planned today, plan is to use 2.25" pipe to do true duals that attach via flanges to a 2 in 2 out muffler to dumps that extend just beyond the cab but before the axle, everything is getting sucked up as much as possible so now......MY TRUCK HAS flat belly potential
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 12:08 PM   #81
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DN1911 View Post
i don't think you have a chance in hell for a flat belly! you ain't worked out in weeks!`
true.........post edited
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2008, 05:18 PM   #82
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

ok, i dont know how....but the axle shaft fits sooo well that im off on the measurement for splined diameter by only .01mm (so either they looked it up like they should have or my measurement was that "on"....im guessing it was the first option). So now....assembly of the first inner/u-joint/outer.







uuummmmm Jason, can i use your vice sunday?
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2008, 01:58 PM   #83
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

got the passenger side inner and outer put together with the u-joint, movement is smooth as butter.
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2008, 01:59 PM   #84
Hagan34
Pooh Bear
 
Hagan34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Eagle, CO
Posts: 680
Send a message via Yahoo to Hagan34
Default

what U joints did you get? im sure you said it some where
__________________
Michael
00 Taco 3RZ:TRD Blower, URD 2.4 pulley, Dana 44, 3 link, 37" MTRs, F/R ARB w/ 4.88, Marlin 4.7 Crawler
89 Supra: 2JZ-GTE swap 573 HP/ 565 Torque

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
Bear hasn't posted yet. I'm sure he broke something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
9)Multiple choice: "I don't need game" is code for:
A)"I carry ruffies."
B)"I'm a hit at HS dances b/c I have a driver's license"
C)"I am a registered sex offender."
D)"I have a slutty sister and 2 hot cousins."
E)"Being a youth leader at my chuch has it's advantages."
Hagan34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2008, 02:08 PM   #85
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

bobby long's (longfield 300M)
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2008, 12:18 AM   #86
Hagan34
Pooh Bear
 
Hagan34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Eagle, CO
Posts: 680
Send a message via Yahoo to Hagan34
Default

wish i would have had mine run over the T-case mount, but didnt have the sas or the krwaler in yet so i know it would have had to been changed, but gives me ideas for the next time.
__________________
Michael
00 Taco 3RZ:TRD Blower, URD 2.4 pulley, Dana 44, 3 link, 37" MTRs, F/R ARB w/ 4.88, Marlin 4.7 Crawler
89 Supra: 2JZ-GTE swap 573 HP/ 565 Torque

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
Bear hasn't posted yet. I'm sure he broke something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
9)Multiple choice: "I don't need game" is code for:
A)"I carry ruffies."
B)"I'm a hit at HS dances b/c I have a driver's license"
C)"I am a registered sex offender."
D)"I have a slutty sister and 2 hot cousins."
E)"Being a youth leader at my chuch has it's advantages."
Hagan34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2008, 08:57 AM   #87
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

glad to hear that incident helped somebody
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2008, 10:13 PM   #88
brinner
Brian
 
brinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,016
Default

ok so i trashed the panhard mount for the axle....welded it together, then put it on the axle only to find out that i was stupid and got it slightly crooked.


also i wasnt happy with the lack of penetration on the welds so i was cutting it apart and i just like how it was looking so i trashed it and ordered a new one.

2 lessons learned, tack it up using the actual axle tube and need to turn up the heat on the welder.
brinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2008, 11:08 AM   #89
DN1911
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 312
Default

what are you welding together? pictures please
DN1911 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2008, 11:19 AM   #90
Hagan34
Pooh Bear
 
Hagan34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Eagle, CO
Posts: 680
Send a message via Yahoo to Hagan34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brinner View Post
2 lessons learned, tack it up using the actual axle tube and need to turn up the heat on the welder.

both are good lessons sorry it costed you some time and a panhard mount.
__________________
Michael
00 Taco 3RZ:TRD Blower, URD 2.4 pulley, Dana 44, 3 link, 37" MTRs, F/R ARB w/ 4.88, Marlin 4.7 Crawler
89 Supra: 2JZ-GTE swap 573 HP/ 565 Torque

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
Bear hasn't posted yet. I'm sure he broke something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss View Post
9)Multiple choice: "I don't need game" is code for:
A)"I carry ruffies."
B)"I'm a hit at HS dances b/c I have a driver's license"
C)"I am a registered sex offender."
D)"I have a slutty sister and 2 hot cousins."
E)"Being a youth leader at my chuch has it's advantages."
Hagan34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Project KLP Tell us who you are 6 12-13-2007 10:33 AM
bed bar fab... my first project slim99 Fabrication/Tools 10 10-15-2007 11:23 PM
I need a project :) 99FlowedTaco Tech 16 04-22-2007 11:09 PM
Bad little project in AL ATLRoach For Sale/WTB in GA 0 10-24-2005 08:11 AM
Need for project Tacos4life Wanted 5 10-16-2005 01:51 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:57 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.