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Old 10-28-2008, 08:41 PM   #1
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Default Gauging Interest in Plate Style Front Bumpers?

Hey all,
Im not a vendor or anything here...just trying to gauge interest and would willingly pay for a vendor's fee, if I decided to go through with this. Also, if this is the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.

I am currently have a bumper lasered, and bent by a friend of mine, and was wondering if there would be interest from others, wanting the same bumper? I couldnt decide between tubes, or plate, but hate the fact that the majority of people have tube bumpers. Im all about being different. However, I dont like the huge "gaudyness/snowplow" look of the typical plate bumper.
Therefore, my design is more slimline, will still house a winch nicely, and is made of .25" material. It is all one piece, lasered, formed, and seams welded, with gusseting behind to reinforce. It will utilize the stock frame mounts, as well as have a "lip" that comes down, and bolts to the front crossmember where the threaded holes are. The first unit will be for 1989-1994 models.
It is similar to the bumper below, although it will wrap all the way around the side, and follow the curvature of the wheel opening...not be "capped" like the bumper in the following picture. Will also NOT have the tube work on the top, although this could be requested.
As for price...not sure. Id like to keep it around $450-$475. With this being said, how many would be interested in something like this? Any input or mods you would like better? Thanks in advance, and I hope this doesnt start a huge controversy over vendors, and fees, and all of that sort. Again, Im NOT selling these...just simply gauging interest to see if it is possible to offer a quality product to the Toyota owners.

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Old 10-28-2008, 10:02 PM   #2
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I far prefer plate style to round tube on the earlier trucks
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If you make one for an 85, I would be interested...
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Thanks for the input guys! Anyone know the difference in frame width from the 85 bodystyle, and the early 90's body style? Also, does anyone have the dimension of the slot needed, and bolt centerline for the Haywes(I think thats what its called), winch fairlead?
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one for a 91 toyota pickup...but how bout with a stinger?
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As I said, they wont have the stinger, or any tube work for that matter, as a "standard", but you could order any tube work you wanted.
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I believe the frame width on the 2nd and 3rd gen trucks (1st ad second gen 4Runners) were the same with pretty minor differences.
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I think plate bumper can look really good. Unfortunately most of the ones I see are too big for the truck they are on. Even ARB's Toyota bumpers look big enough to fit a full size truck.

Here is one that looks really good.

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Extreme, I totally agree. Thats why I was thinking of a tube bumper. As you can tell in the picture I posted, it isnt too big...may look a little big on the Suzuki, but our trucks are a little bigger.
I basically made it, just big enough to house a winch. I wanted it even smaller, but the winch wouldnt fit so...Ill get some newer pics shortly of the 3D Solidworks drawing.
Lastly, is $475 too much to ask for them? Or is that about fair? I noticed the pics of the bumpmer I posted are like $550 I think.
Anyways, Hope everyone is well! Thanks a bunch!
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I think plate bumper can look really good. Unfortunately most of the ones I see are too big for the truck they are on. Even ARB's Toyota bumpers look big enough to fit a full size truck.

Here is one that looks really good.

Looks great, but that antenna mount is a sad after thought and wouldn't last 10 minutes on anything but a fire road.
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^^^Who makes that bumper? Its nice
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^^^Who makes that bumper? Its nice
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Looks great, but that antenna mount is a sad after thought and wouldn't last 10 minutes on anything but a fire road.
Ric is in my club (started my club) and that bumper has been through hell and back. That antenna mount has hit rocks and not bent or dented...


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I would def be interested for a nice plate bumper for an 87!
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If you make one for an 85, I would be interested...

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I will be building my own custom plate bumper soon as well as strengthining (sp) the frame and making custom brackets to mount the bumper. I love the look and there strong as hell if built correctly.
I am going to use 1/4" plate most likley but I may use other thicknesses in other areas.
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Hey all,
Im trying to put together a list of items Id need for each individual bumper. I personally like the look of the hawse style fairlead, but I know not everyone has synthetic rope on their winch...so Im thinking Ill leave the front solid, and the consumer can make his own hole. Does this sound okay?
Heres my list:
*Bumper itself
*Frame mounts, with gussetting, and tubes coming from the bumper brackets, to the outer edge/corner of the bumper for support
*Plate to mount winch
*(2) 1" Thick Recovery Points/Shackle Mounts

Anything else youd like to see included in these? Thanks for the help!\
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very interrested in the plate bumper for a '91 truck...would be amazing!

too bad my wallet won't be ready for it until may 2010 (graduation date)

that being said your price isn't bad at all...
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JD, thanks for the input. Believe me, I know the college scenario...Im there as well. Just going part time will break you!
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Hey guys,
Just touching bases with you. Still waiting for the CAD file to come back from the shop. I drew it up, and my buddy wanted to make some slight changes to make it easier to form and weld.
Hopefully by the end of this week, or early next week.

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I think plate bumper can look really good. Unfortunately most of the ones I see are too big for the truck they are on. Even ARB's Toyota bumpers look big enough to fit a full size truck.

Here is one that looks really good.

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Hayes......did your buddy give you any info on the cost of the armorology bumper?
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His name is Ric on the boards, you'd have to contact him directly.
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I don't think this is real, dude hasnt been on or answered anyones ?'s for a while
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Hey all,
Im trying to put together a list of items Id need for each individual bumper. I personally like the look of the hawse style fairlead, but I know not everyone has synthetic rope on their winch...so Im thinking Ill leave the front solid, and the consumer can make his own hole. Does this sound okay?
Heres my list:
*Bumper itself
*Frame mounts, with gussetting, and tubes coming from the bumper brackets, to the outer edge/corner of the bumper for support
*Plate to mount winch
*(2) 1" Thick Recovery Points/Shackle Mounts

Anything else youd like to see included in these? Thanks for the help!\
Kyle

It would be a real pain for someone to cut the fairlead hole in a clean way, especially without the knowhow or tools....the fairleads are the same specs so the holes would be the same. As for the price, there are reasons these are so $$.... parts, labor, tooling, disp., etc. so you don't loose your ass. It costs to put out a quality product.

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The bumper is made by a company called Armorology. They are in Colorado and unfortuantely only build custom so you have to take your truck to them to have it built. I was quoted $1200 to build one just like the one in the pic if I brought my 4Runner to them. Their website is http://www.armorology.com/
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Hey guys,
I have the drawings at 3 different sheetmetal shops that have lasers. I should hear something shortly. I honestly didnt think there would be this much interest in these, or I would have tried doing this along time ago. Ill defenitely be in touch and let everyone know the deal.
Thanks for being patient!
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The bumper is made by a company called Armorology. They are in Colorado and unfortuantely only build custom so you have to take your truck to them to have it built. I was quoted $1200 to build one just like the one in the pic if I brought my 4Runner to them. Their website is http://www.armorology.com/
sick shiet, but this guy wants to build his own right?
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