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Old 12-01-2008, 01:09 PM   #1
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Not sure if I'm posting this in the right spot or if I should go the the Northern HOW thread, but here goes:

I just got in some frame reinforcements from DeMello and I was wondering if anyone out there could help me weld them onto my frame some weekend?

I have zero welding experience but I know that I want a 3/16" fillet weld or equivalent all around the reinforcements. Or whatever would be a good strong weld to hold the reinforcements and add the structural benifit.

Here is a link in case you don't know what they look like:

http://www.demello-offroad.com//cata...73d1e3ababe7a8

This would be a great chance for me to meet some of you guys and gals.

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Old 12-01-2008, 04:37 PM   #2
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I can do it. It'll be arc welded, but I can make it look nice. I weld Monday - Friday for 3 hours a day...so I can guarantee it will be quality. I'm in Arvada about 86th and Simms.
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Oh and your choice of rods:

6011 for a beautiful stack of dimes look, and good strong weld. 60,000 pounds/square inch tensil strength

7018 for a very flat, smooth weld that's a little stronger at 70,000 psi tensil strength

I can never decide on my truck....but I go with 6011 most of the time just because the welds look really cool to me. But the 7018 is more smooth and doesn't stand out as a weld as much.

For this application I would recommend the 6011 because the frame plates are not designed in such a way that tensil strength will be as important. Plus the 6011 rod is cheaper.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:05 PM   #4
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Excellent!

How much are the 6011 rods compared to the 7018 rods?

Also, and of course I know It is hard to tell without having the rails in your hands, but how many rods will I need?
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If you can't hook up with Kyle, I'd be happy to weld them for ya.

You can save a lot of time by doing the prep work up front, having all the weld surfaces ground to shiny metal. Note that the circles are cut there for more weld area - you need to clean up those areas too.
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Excellent!

How much are the 6011 rods compared to the 7018 rods?

Also, and of course I know It is hard to tell without having the rails in your hands, but how many rods will I need?
For a 5 pound box, its about 3-4 dollars more for 7018. Generally a rod is good for approximately 6" of weld about 3/8" across. I should have more than enough to get it done. I've got a canister packed with them.

It's hard to say right now just how much will be needed, but I would appreciate just a few bucks to reimburse for the rods. The boxes are usually $10 for 5 lbs, so they're cheap, but still cost money.
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Sweet.

OK now the question is what weekend works best for either of you?

I'd prefer Saturdays, but if Sundays work better, then thats why they invented DVRs.

I guess whomever can do it the earliest gets to meet me first, and get a shot at some brewskies. Oh and what kind of beer do you guys like, that is if you like beer. I can't stand the stuff.
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Blue Moon Please

LOL We can do saturday no prob. Though I shouldn't be pimping troy out for work I won't be doing...
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And about 4 oranges for Molly also
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I can't do Saturday but can do Sunday, or one of the evenings this week. I just need a little bit of notice so that I can bring my gear home.

Won't be needing beverages here....That's illegal...
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We could do it Saturday before the xmas party.
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I can't do Saturday but can do Sunday, or one of the evenings this week. I just need a little bit of notice so that I can bring my gear home.

Won't be needing beverages here....That's illegal...
OK Sunday will work, plus that gives me time to prep the area for welding.

What time and where do you want to meet?

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We could do it Saturday before the xmas party.
Thanks for offering Troy.

But Kyle was first, even though you are willing to do it on a Saturday, and like I said I need to prep the area and Saturday is going to be a good chance to do it, along with the rest of the stuff I need to try to get done.
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OK Sunday will work, plus that gives me time to prep the area for welding.

What time and where do you want to meet?



Thanks for offering Troy.

But Kyle was first, even though you are willing to do it on a Saturday, and like I said I need to prep the area and Saturday is going to be a good chance to do it, along with the rest of the stuff I need to try to get done.
How about you come over to my place Sunday afternoon, because the welder doesn't move very easily. I'm not too far from Thornton. Like I said about 86th and Simms in Arvada. I'm pretty open to times...but would like to take advantage of daylight if possible. Maybe 11?

I'll PM you my address and phone #.
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How about you come over to my place Sunday afternoon, because the welder doesn't move very easily. I'm not too far from Thornton. Like I said about 86th and Simms in Arvada. I'm pretty open to times...but would like to take advantage of daylight if possible. Maybe 11?

I'll PM you my address and phone #.
Got 'em.

See you at 11 on Sunday the 7th.
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How about you come over to my place Sunday afternoon... Maybe 11?
what are they teaching in school these days? I must be old, in my day, 11 came before noon, not after
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Don't you guys have better threads to heckle? I know you're just doing your job and all....but shit....






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Nope, this is the best one by far
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Don't you guys have better threads to heckle? I know you're just doing your job and all....but shit....






Could be, where else are you posting? Heckling you and giving Dave shit are 2 of my favorite past times.
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Hey Kyle shoot me your number, I might find time to give ya a hand welding! Its gonna be a nice day too, maybe I will drive the yota over if I can make it!
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That would be cool. Let me know.

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Could be, where else are you posting? Heckling you and giving Dave shit are 2 of my favorite past times.
Now now. We've been over this, and so have your nurses. Shit is something you flush or throw away. I know you're getting old and losing you mind, but go back, listen to the nice nurses and put the diapers back on.
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If you would stop taking it with a smile from the senial old man he may learn that lesson one day.
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He listens to the nurses just fine - with the Alzheimer's he just doesn't remember what they said is all. Kinda sad really
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I can help you or anyone with welding whenever needed. I have a Miller 110v for mobile purposes and a couple of real welders(mig and tig) if anyone needs. I can also make brackets,plates, and other stuff too. We have an ironworker and shears and and brakes as well.
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At the next HOW I would love to give a hand welding...I know from stick-tig....you name it....I would love to help....
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