Aftermarket Brake System?

[cell4soul]

Can anyone recommend an aftermarket heavy duyty brake system for an 05? I'm not thinking just pads, but a whole system.

[Bear]

Not sure if the aftermarket has caught up yet. I would venture a guess that your best bet would be to call Walbro or Bemko (?) directly and talk to a sales rep.

Also try Baer brakes as well.

But if you do go this route…it is going to be pricey!

[ryguy]

URD has the TRD BIG brake system. But I dont think it is much different than what we all have right now.

[Gadget]

Yes, URD has only a couple of sets of the StopTech BKK for your application on hand. Once they are gone, they are gone for good. You can buy them later with a TRD logo on the calipers for a hell of a lot more...

[cell4soul]

Thanks for the info, I called URD Friday and haven't heard back, I am going to try them again on Monday.

[midengine3sgte]

what the major differnce between stock and using the stop tech? and does anyone make a rear disc kit yet or can you use the stock ones from the 4runner or xrunner.

[MaxVelocity]

Originally Posted by midengine3sgte

what the major differnce between stock and using the stop tech? and does anyone make a rear disc kit yet or can you use the stock ones from the 4runner or xrunner.

The major difference is brake fade. StopTech makes for one hell of a nice brake setup for a lot less $$$ than Brembo. Larger, thicker rotor combined with a large pad surface area = somewhat better stopping but A LOT less brake fade after contineous hard braking.

Here are my experiences with brakes from racing on the track.

1. Brake pads - some pads have a good initial bite but will be less effective when the rotors are hot. More performance types of pads usually don't brake well for a second but then will stop you a lot better as the temp of the rotor climbs.

2. Rotors - Standard blank rotors do the job but slotted rotors tend to provide for better braking as they help dissapate gas buildup and get rid of dirt. Cross drilled rotors are ok, but slotted are the new thing.

3. Brake lines - There is a HUGE difference in feel between regular rubber lines and steel braided lines. When you hit the brakes, the rubber lines will expand and as heat increases they will expand more as the rubber heats up. The steel braided lines don't expand at all and the pedal feel is very solid (almost stiff).

4. Brake fluid - Brake fluid varies widely. If you're heavy on the brakes you may want to look into a racing brake fluid. They're a bit more expensive but will not boil or break down as fast OE/OEM, and the stuff at kragen.

I plan to upgrade the brakes on my 06 DC next couple of months so I will give Ya'll feedback. Plan is to get some slotted rotors front, new pads (Hawk pads front and back), steel brake lines and racing brake fluid. Hopefully it will give close to the same feeling as my old track/street car.

[peekay331]

any idea where i can replace all my front and rear brakelines? i found these on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...spagenameZWDVW

i have unresponsive brakes, and after i bled them last night (with my motiv brake bleeder), they now pull to one side during braking!

[MaxVelocity]

sounds like you still have some air in the system near the other oposite side. Not sure about those hoses you linked to but they won't fix your current problem.

StopTech carries SS brake lines and for racing brake fluid you can get Motul or ATE.

Here is where I get my ATE racing brake fluid:

ATE Brake fluid

StopTech SS brake lines

[peekay331]

Originally Posted by MaxVelocity

sounds like you still have some air in the system near the other oposite side. Not sure about those hoses you linked to but they won't fix your current problem.

StopTech carries SS brake lines and for racing brake fluid you can get Motul or ATE.

Here is where I get my ATE racing brake fluid:

ATE Brake fluid

StopTech SS brake lines

yeah, i'll have to check that out tonight.

the stoptech lines look great, but they only have fronts. any idea where i can get the rears too? basically, i want to improve the brake feel and make it more responsive.

[tonestoyo06]

yeah but the one that TRD and URD has is for the X-Runner ONLY. on top of that, you would need a bigger wheel to cover the disc. (i believe its 18's.) i want aftermarket brakes for the other trucks, and i'm wanting a rear disc brake conversion too. the drums are really holding up to my 35 inch tires.

[MaxVelocity]

from my track experience, BBKs are good primarily for constant hard braking where brake fade is a serious issue. The work around to actually buying a BBK is to get better replacement parts. I'm planning to contact Hawk to see if they have a pad like the HPS which is a street/track pad. It brakes well initially (not as good as OEM) but will keep braking when hot way past what the stock pads can handle. A true race pad is really bad for the street or offroad because they don't brake worth $hit until the brakes are hot. Also slotted rotors will help dissapate the gas buildup between the pad and the rotor as heat increases as well as give a place for dirt to go and prevent the pad from glazing over. I'll do some research on the rears, I've never had drums before ... LOL

Yeh, and the other problems with BBK is that you may need to install adapters for the calipers, change your backspacing/offset, may require larger diameter wheels, wheel spacers, and may not be compatible with ABS. Basically, headaches come with the package unless it was designed as a factory upgrade (would think that if it's TRD then it should not be a problem other than the wheel clearance issue).

[Gadget]

Originally Posted by tonestoyo06

yeah but the one that TRD and URD has is for the X-Runner ONLY. on top of that, you would need a bigger wheel to cover the disc. (i believe its 18's.) i want aftermarket brakes for the other trucks, and i'm wanting a rear disc brake conversion too. the drums are really holding up to my 35 inch tires.

We have StopTech brakes for many applications. We are sold out of the XRunner brakes and will never have them again form the looks of things.