Rear end problems!!

Ripcurlsurfin96 · 03-30-2005, 03:05 PM

i went to my mechanic about a squeal i had in my rear end...( i posted it as "Squeak!!!" earlier this week. I talked to him and he believes its my rear end.... most likley my gears. How much total am i looking to replace my 4:10 gears if that is what it is? also, i have been wanting to upgrade to 4:56 for a long time now and i was wondering about how much it would cost to get 2 master install kits and 2 gears (front and rear) also who is the best (price and quality) thanks

KStacoma · 03-30-2005, 03:10 PM

Go w/presicion gears for sure imo. I got 4.88's and rear master and front standard install kits and it all totalled 640.00 bucks.

Ripcurlsurfin96 · 03-30-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KStacoma

Go w/presicion gears for sure imo. I got 4.88's and rear master and front standard install kits and it all totalled 640.00 bucks.

wat about Reider gears? and 640 was 2master install kits and both front and rear gears? sorry still new at this...also how much for install

grillmasterp · 03-30-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripcurlsurfin96

i went to my mechanic about a squeal i had in my rear end...( i posted it as "Squeak!!!" earlier this week. I talked to him and he believes its my rear end.... most likley my gears. How much total am i looking to replace my 4:10 gears if that is what it is? also, i have been wanting to upgrade to 4:56 for a long time now and i was wondering about how much it would cost to get 2 master install kits and 2 gears (front and rear) also who is the best (price and quality) thanks

wonder if it could be the carrier bearings

Dick Foster · 03-30-2005, 03:48 PM

One would suspect a bearing instead of gears if the noise is a squeak or squeal.

KStacoma · 03-30-2005, 04:44 PM

Yeah gears would just grind and it'd be obvious if you had a gear problem if you drained your fluid and there was metal in it. But yeah my 640 quote was for front and rear ring/pinons, rear master install kit and front standard kit.

absolut taco · 03-30-2005, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripcurlsurfin96

i went to my mechanic about a squeal i had in my rear end...

I would have gone to the doctor. IN A HURRY!

ShowStop · 03-30-2005, 05:05 PM

Ditto what others said. Probably a bearing and not the gears. If you have 4:10 gears, you can only get new gears from Toyota for about $400 per set. The smallest aftermarket gears start at 4.56.

If the squeal is coming from the rear differential, I'm putting my money on bad front pinion bearing.

Ripcurlsurfin96 · 03-30-2005, 06:02 PM

ok what are the carrier bearings and the front pinion.... drive train isnt my thing

ShowStop · 03-30-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripcurlsurfin96

ok what are the carrier bearings and the front pinion.... drive train isnt my thing

http://65.200.1.6/FSM/Repair_Manual/...3rz5v/comp.pdf

Look on page 2 for the differential exploded diagram.

Ripcurlsurfin96 · 03-30-2005, 06:21 PM

thanks
how much do they run for and where can i get them

Dick Foster · 03-30-2005, 06:31 PM

All of the bearings come in a master install kit. But you would do well to find a good rearend shop instead of taking it to the dealer. About all most dealers will do is swap out the entire center section. Dealers just don't do much in the way of wrenching other than to change easy parts and entire assemblies these days. They don't care because it is either your money or Toyotas money, never theirs and if they did do any real wrenching, it would expose them to warranty work where they would most likely loose money. The overall lack of good mechanics along with an increase in the technical complexity of vehicles these days are also contributing factors.

99TanTaco · 03-30-2005, 06:34 PM

as far as install I was quoted about $400 if I bring the 3rd and front diff in, about $700 if they do it all

Dick Foster · 03-30-2005, 06:38 PM

The rearend shop I use typically charges about $150 for a gear install if bring in the third and about double if they have to R&R too so that is not too far off.

Ripcurlsurfin96 · 03-30-2005, 06:41 PM

thanks i headin there tomorrow to get it checked out more in depth

grillmasterp · 03-30-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripcurlsurfin96

thanks
how much do they run for and where can i get them

carrier bearings run about $30 each (there are two)
Rear Carrier Bearing 90366-51001

if ithe others say its pinion related
Pinion Bearing 1 90366-40068
Pinion Bearing 2 90366-34007

spill_02 · 03-30-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripcurlsurfin96

i went to my mechanic about a squeal i had in my rear end...( i posted it as "Squeak!!!" earlier this week. I talked to him and he believes its my rear end.... most likley my gears. How much total am i looking to replace my 4:10 gears if that is what it is? also, i have been wanting to upgrade to 4:56 for a long time now and i was wondering about how much it would cost to get 2 master install kits and 2 gears (front and rear) also who is the best (price and quality) thanks

you say theres a squeak, well my truck squeaks but my truck does it when i slow down or just let of the accelerator, and it sounds like it comes from the rear, it sounds like a real fast scratching and it comes and goes, weird sound, tell me what you find out.

phixer · 04-01-2005, 10:21 AM

Check the rear U-joint, when I bough my truck, used, the rear u-joint went bad and squeaked. They replaces it and the squeak went away. Just another possability.

Ripcurlsurfin96 · 04-01-2005, 10:30 AM

Well i took it to the mechanic... and strangely enough i broke some type of internal spring in my drive shaft... i found that hard to believe... but thats wat happened...nothin to serious to worry about. He told me to either buy a new drive shaft or just put up with the noise... well u can probably figure out what i did

hytenor · 04-01-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by absolut taco

I would have gone to the doctor. IN A HURRY!

yea, another case of "hide the hamster"...but I thought that was a socal thing

hytenor · 04-01-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ripcurlsurfin96

Well i took it to the mechanic... and strangely enough i broke some type of internal spring in my drive shaft... i found that hard to believe... but thats wat happened...nothin to serious to worry about. He told me to either buy a new drive shaft or just put up with the noise... well u can probably figure out what i did

Uh, there aren't any "internal springs" in the driveshaft.

grillmasterp · 04-01-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ripcurlsurfin96

Well i took it to the mechanic... and strangely enough i broke some type of internal spring in my drive shaft..... well u can probably figure out what i did

I hope you found a new mechanic

hytenor · 04-01-2005, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by grillmasterp

I hope you found a new mechanic

aren't those springs connected to the muffler bearings?

03-30-2005, 03:05 PM	#1
Ripcurlsurfin96 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356	Rear end problems!! i went to my mechanic about a squeal i had in my rear end...( i posted it as "Squeak!!!" earlier this week. I talked to him and he believes its my rear end.... most likley my gears. How much total am i looking to replace my 4:10 gears if that is what it is? also, i have been wanting to upgrade to 4:56 for a long time now and i was wondering about how much it would cost to get 2 master install kits and 2 gears (front and rear) also who is the best (price and quality) thanks

03-30-2005, 03:48 PM	#5
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 11,905	One would suspect a bearing instead of gears if the noise is a squeak or squeal. __________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

03-30-2005, 05:05 PM	#8
ShowStop Member Dismemberer My Rig: 95.5 Tacoma Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 16,136	Ditto what others said. Probably a bearing and not the gears. If you have 4:10 gears, you can only get new gears from Toyota for about $400 per set. The smallest aftermarket gears start at 4.56. If the squeal is coming from the rear differential, I'm putting my money on bad front pinion bearing. __________________ Next Socal TTORA event - Miller Jeep Trail - June 22 www.ttora-socal.com TTORA-Socal on Facebook

03-30-2005, 06:31 PM	#12
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 11,905	All of the bearings come in a master install kit. But you would do well to find a good rearend shop instead of taking it to the dealer. About all most dealers will do is swap out the entire center section. Dealers just don't do much in the way of wrenching other than to change easy parts and entire assemblies these days. They don't care because it is either your money or Toyotas money, never theirs and if they did do any real wrenching, it would expose them to warranty work where they would most likely loose money. The overall lack of good mechanics along with an increase in the technical complexity of vehicles these days are also contributing factors. __________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

03-30-2005, 06:34 PM	#13
99TanTaco Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canal Fulton, Ohio Posts: 3,645	as far as install I was quoted about $400 if I bring the 3rd and front diff in, about $700 if they do it all __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/terrystaco/

03-30-2005, 03:10 PM	#2
KStacoma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hagerstown, md Posts: 2,114	Go w/presicion gears for sure imo. I got 4.88's and rear master and front standard install kits and it all totalled 640.00 bucks.

03-30-2005, 04:44 PM	#6
KStacoma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hagerstown, md Posts: 2,114	Yeah gears would just grind and it'd be obvious if you had a gear problem if you drained your fluid and there was metal in it. But yeah my 640 quote was for front and rear ring/pinons, rear master install kit and front standard kit.

03-30-2005, 06:02 PM	#9
Ripcurlsurfin96 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356	ok what are the carrier bearings and the front pinion.... drive train isnt my thing

03-30-2005, 06:21 PM	#11
Ripcurlsurfin96 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356	thanks how much do they run for and where can i get them

03-30-2005, 06:38 PM	#14
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 11,905	The rearend shop I use typically charges about $150 for a gear install if bring in the third and about double if they have to R&R too so that is not too far off. __________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

03-30-2005, 06:41 PM	#15
Ripcurlsurfin96 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356	thanks i headin there tomorrow to get it checked out more in depth

04-01-2005, 10:21 AM	#18
phixer Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Eastern Mass Posts: 32	Check the rear U-joint, when I bough my truck, used, the rear u-joint went bad and squeaked. They replaces it and the squeak went away. Just another possability.

04-01-2005, 10:30 AM	#19
Ripcurlsurfin96 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356	Well i took it to the mechanic... and strangely enough i broke some type of internal spring in my drive shaft... i found that hard to believe... but thats wat happened...nothin to serious to worry about. He told me to either buy a new drive shaft or just put up with the noise... well u can probably figure out what i did

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