tellico - Page 2

Alan11116 · 10-09-2007, 07:29 AM

done.

sloppytaco · 10-09-2007, 08:40 AM

Sending out 2 today.

Alan11116 · 10-10-2007, 08:19 AM

comments-southern-north-carolina-nan...itee@fs.fed.us

this is also a link that Chris sent me to email your letter. I sent this link to alot of people in my address book and asked them to send one, too.

crawlrunner · 10-10-2007, 08:26 AM

Word on the street is: we havn't raised enough HELL! They are still planning on emergency closing THE ROCK GARDEN & SLICK ROCK. The word also is THE ROCK GARDEN won't reopen. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

I'm writing a less polite letter to my Congressman now! What the hell good is a neutral politician anyway ... like tits on a Boar Hog!

What are U doing about this COLIN!!!!??????

What else can we do?

gregers05 · 10-10-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crawlrunner

Word on the street is: we havn't raised enough HELL! They are still planning on emergency closing THE ROCK GARDEN & SLICK ROCK. The word also is THE ROCK GARDEN won't reopen. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

I'm writing a less polite letter to my Congressman now! What the hell good is a neutral politician anyway ... like tits on a Boar Hog!

What are U doing about this COLIN!!!!??????

What else can we do?

wtf are they closing slickrock for anyway? is a big ass rock...

REDTACOtjm123 · 10-10-2007, 11:24 AM

Thing is,they don't really care unless thier lively hood is at stake,I am sending another but regardless we need countless countless emails and letters send 7 a week or 7 a month or 7 at a time,if we dont overflow the desk or mailrooms or something nothing will/shall change...change takes time,but we dont have alot of time come on!!! WOOO

pep talk over lol

ATLRoach · 10-10-2007, 11:47 AM

Where is the word coming from Ed?

crawlrunner · 10-10-2007, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLRoach

Where is the word coming from Ed?

Danny.

ATLRoach · 10-10-2007, 01:23 PM

I have more info that I choose not to plaster all over the internet. We can talk about it at camp.

04 Rocko Taco · 10-10-2007, 02:20 PM

Well Inquiring minds want to know all pertinent information...

crawlrunner · 10-10-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLRoach

I have more info that I choose not to plaster all over the internet. We can talk about it at camp.

Whatever. Somthing SECRET? SCANDAL? THIS IS POLITICS. We're all in this together ... I'm just trying to get everybody activated & I don't appreciate Ur 'tone' in Ur last post. I trust Danny's info. We'll talk ... if U show up. OR PM ME. I'll continue 'plastering' all info I hear & thier sources from now on.

This post will probably be deleted so read up quick!

GOT COPE? · 10-11-2007, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crawlrunner

What are U doing about this COLIN!!!!??????

What else can we do?

If I were closer or had the time off Id go visit the forest service in person or my local rep anyone who could possibly sway things.

Check out the (oops - see link provided) STLCA chapter http://forum.ih8mud.com/forumdisplay.php?f=132
on www.ih8mud.com see if there is any more info there. The guys that maintain Tellico post there.

http://www.sfwda.org/trails/tellico/index.html

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=604044

I'd hoped to make the upcoming trip but I cant get the time off due to us having our Halloween sale Saturday.

There isnt much I can do as one person, we all must keep writing letters and spread the word to anyone and everyone that we can reach that may care but not know about this.

Call the magazines, the editors, anyone who may know someone that knows someone. Atleast it spreads the word. Thats the key, if we havent created enough of a storm as you've reported Ed, then we need more people to know and voice their thoughts in the ways you already have.

One more thing

MONEY! Who here has joined and or just donated money to SFWDA and Blue Ribbon not including Tellico trail fees? Hmm? Let's see your membership numbers. Put em in your sig, be proud. Sometimes picking up trash once a year isnt enough. You need to give the lawyers on our side some money so they can fight for us and feed their kids.

ATLRoach · 10-11-2007, 09:26 AM

Colin pretty much said what I wanted to say.. The forest service hasn't recieved enough response for them to change their mind. We as a community haven't made enough noise. The closures are almost definite, FS are backing out on us as they don't want a legal battle with Trouts Unlimited. SFWDA is the only hope we have left. The problem is that TU has DEEP pockets and their pockets reach deep in the political forums.

I already have a SFWDA membership(I'll have to find my number) but everyone else needs to step up and join. Also as the saying goes put your money where your mouth is.

http://sfwda.com/trails/tellico/donate.html

REDTACOtjm123 · 10-11-2007, 12:46 PM

Problem is,I WOULD LOVE TO, but i can't,if people like me who cant afford to send in money at this time,other than letters what else can we do?
volunteer?
pickets idk

just let us know

GOT COPE? · 10-11-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REDTACOtjm123

Problem is,I WOULD LOVE TO, but i can't,if people like me who cant afford to send in money at this time,other than letters what else can we do?
volunteer?
pickets idk

just let us know

Write a letter if you havent already. You dont have to donate $500 or your right arm. $10 or $20 is better than nothing. Heck, ask your parents for a twenty.

REDTACOtjm123 · 10-11-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOT COPE?

Write a letter if you havent already. You dont have to donate $500 or your right arm. $10 or $20 is better than nothing. Heck, ask your parents for a twenty.

hhaha ight
already sent one ill send more

04tacodrvr · 10-12-2007, 08:52 AM

for the sake of increasing my post count.........letter sent(yes, i really sent it)
-daniel

gregers05 · 10-16-2007, 03:20 PM

just a thought, idk if we already discussed this or not, but has anyone contacted the FJ Trail Teams and tried to get Toyota to help us out?

Blitanicle99 · 10-16-2007, 03:54 PM

Thats an excellent idea Greg. We should definitely try to get them involved. Hell its what we are about... Toyotas!

04 Rocko Taco · 10-17-2007, 10:45 AM

Okay guys - here is the letter written by David Badger (Cherokee Co, NC Manager)

If you cant read the letter here, view it at this link...Thanks guys!
http://cobraspace.com/media/albums/u...01/SFX147B.pdf

I think the letter soudns good, and maybe it will grab the USFS attention to the tune of almost an astounding $297 Million dollars spent on tourism in Cherokee county last year, quite a bit the county attributes to the presence of Tellico, and wheelers such as ourselves.

gregers05 · 10-28-2007, 06:44 PM

i saw this from a member on pirate. idk how reliable the information is but its better than nothing i guess

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate

chuck told us today that lower 2, slick rock and peckerwood was going to be closed for a year for an impact survay and may be reopened, but they were going to open 4 new trails with at least 2 of them being at least as hard as the ones they are closing... is that true?

TRoss · 11-15-2007, 08:45 PM

So what's up, anyone heard?

TRoss · 11-20-2007, 08:27 AM

Bump???????

crawlrunner · 11-20-2007, 11:13 AM

I'm going to pu my camper at Crawford's tomorrow, I'll chk w/Danny.

TRoss · 11-20-2007, 01:17 PM

Thanks Ed'O.

ATLRoach · 11-20-2007, 03:37 PM

Read...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...6&postcount=83

Alan11116 · 11-20-2007, 03:50 PM

at least the closure has been delayed as of now!

TRoss · 11-20-2007, 07:49 PM

Thanks for the link and update.
My next question is.... What can I do in the mean time?

crawlrunner · 11-23-2007, 10:11 PM

Per Danny, part of trail 8 has been emergency closed due to sagging wooden bridges. Engineering/surveying is ongoing re: 2, 7 & 9. Trying to specifically determin what the NFS must do to keep SELC/TU from filing suit.

STOMPER · 11-24-2007, 08:10 AM

Here is the info on trail 8. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=630508

10-09-2007, 08:40 AM	#32
sloppytaco Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,038	Sending out 2 today. __________________ 2004 Tacoma double cab limited 4x4 Far from stock 2006 4Runner sport 4x4 Stock 2000 Tacoma SST Stock

10-10-2007, 08:26 AM	#34
crawlrunner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hayesville, NC Posts: 1,921	Word on the street is: we havn't raised enough HELL! They are still planning on emergency closing THE ROCK GARDEN & SLICK ROCK. The word also is THE ROCK GARDEN won't reopen. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH! I'm writing a less polite letter to my Congressman now! What the hell good is a neutral politician anyway ... like tits on a Boar Hog! What are U doing about this COLIN!!!!?????? What else can we do? __________________ Be cautiously cool! Whatever! I still look better than the chick next to me!

10-10-2007, 11:47 AM	#37
ATLRoach www.shutupandwheel.com Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ATL Posts: 5,026	Where is the word coming from Ed? __________________ Kyle Never Ending V8 Powered Truggy build up 03 Tundra - Stock 06 Gixxer 750 - Not stock

10-10-2007, 01:23 PM	#39
ATLRoach www.shutupandwheel.com Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ATL Posts: 5,026	I have more info that I choose not to plaster all over the internet. We can talk about it at camp. __________________ Kyle Never Ending V8 Powered Truggy build up 03 Tundra - Stock 06 Gixxer 750 - Not stock

10-10-2007, 02:20 PM	#40
04 Rocko Taco Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,633	Well Inquiring minds want to know all pertinent information... __________________ ~Chris Tread Lightly! 04 Double Cab PreRunner. 3.4 - Auto 84 4Runner 4WD. 22R - 5 spd. Locked on 33's 97 4Runner SR5 - 3.4 - Auto For Sale Disclaimer:My Photobucket is being revamped. If there are broken links, shoot me a PM. Thanks. ~Chris

10-09-2007, 07:29 AM	#31
Alan11116 "Terry Tate" Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 2,773	done.

10-10-2007, 08:19 AM	#33
Alan11116 "Terry Tate" Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 2,773	comments-southern-north-carolina-nan...itee@fs.fed.us this is also a link that Chris sent me to email your letter. I sent this link to alot of people in my address book and asked them to send one, too.

10-11-2007, 09:26 AM	#43
ATLRoach www.shutupandwheel.com Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ATL Posts: 5,026	Colin pretty much said what I wanted to say.. The forest service hasn't recieved enough response for them to change their mind. We as a community haven't made enough noise. The closures are almost definite, FS are backing out on us as they don't want a legal battle with Trouts Unlimited. SFWDA is the only hope we have left. The problem is that TU has DEEP pockets and their pockets reach deep in the political forums. I already have a SFWDA membership(I'll have to find my number) but everyone else needs to step up and join. Also as the saying goes put your money where your mouth is. http://sfwda.com/trails/tellico/donate.html __________________ Kyle Never Ending V8 Powered Truggy build up 03 Tundra - Stock 06 Gixxer 750 - Not stock

10-12-2007, 08:52 AM	#47
04tacodrvr Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,506	for the sake of increasing my post count.........letter sent(yes, i really sent it) -daniel

10-16-2007, 03:20 PM	#48
gregers05 EL PRESIDENTE Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kennesaw, GA / Auburn, AL Posts: 6,166	just a thought, idk if we already discussed this or not, but has anyone contacted the FJ Trail Teams and tried to get Toyota to help us out? __________________ '99 Taco. 3.4L v6 5spd. 4x4 SAW 2.0 Deaver 3 leaf add pack w/Bilstein 5125s Locked front and rear 33x12.50R15" Maxxis Bighorns MIOR sliders all-pro bumper and skids Marlin Crawler rear bumper T-Max EW9000 with in cab controls magic spare tire-exploded My Pics

10-16-2007, 03:54 PM	#49
Blitanicle99 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marietta Posts: 1,665	Thats an excellent idea Greg. We should definitely try to get them involved. Hell its what we are about... Toyotas! __________________ 03 F250 6.0 FX4, Tuned, straight piped. 33s. 90 454 SS Street truck, bags, Multiport injection, high compression heads, big wide tires

10-17-2007, 10:45 AM	#50
04 Rocko Taco Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,633	Okay guys - here is the letter written by David Badger (Cherokee Co, NC Manager) If you cant read the letter here, view it at this link...Thanks guys! http://cobraspace.com/media/albums/u...01/SFX147B.pdf I think the letter soudns good, and maybe it will grab the USFS attention to the tune of almost an astounding $297 Million dollars spent on tourism in Cherokee county last year, quite a bit the county attributes to the presence of Tellico, and wheelers such as ourselves. __________________ ~Chris Tread Lightly! 04 Double Cab PreRunner. 3.4 - Auto 84 4Runner 4WD. 22R - 5 spd. Locked on 33's 97 4Runner SR5 - 3.4 - Auto For Sale Disclaimer:My Photobucket is being revamped. If there are broken links, shoot me a PM. Thanks. ~Chris

11-20-2007, 11:13 AM	#54
crawlrunner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hayesville, NC Posts: 1,921	I'm going to pu my camper at Crawford's tomorrow, I'll chk w/Danny. __________________ Be cautiously cool! Whatever! I still look better than the chick next to me!

11-20-2007, 03:37 PM	#56
ATLRoach www.shutupandwheel.com Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ATL Posts: 5,026	Read... http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...6&postcount=83 __________________ Kyle Never Ending V8 Powered Truggy build up 03 Tundra - Stock 06 Gixxer 750 - Not stock

11-20-2007, 03:50 PM	#57
Alan11116 "Terry Tate" Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 2,773	at least the closure has been delayed as of now!

11-23-2007, 10:11 PM	#59
crawlrunner Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hayesville, NC Posts: 1,921	Per Danny, part of trail 8 has been emergency closed due to sagging wooden bridges. Engineering/surveying is ongoing re: 2, 7 & 9. Trying to specifically determin what the NFS must do to keep SELC/TU from filing suit. __________________ Be cautiously cool! Whatever! I still look better than the chick next to me!

11-24-2007, 08:10 AM	#60
STOMPER GRUMPY SOB!! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hiram Ga Posts: 2,003	Here is the info on trail 8. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=630508 __________________ Im not arguing with you. Im just jumping in on something I dont know or care about!! http://www.shutupandwheel.com

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