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So has anyone built a on board air system with a 3.4 using a york comp? I was wondering what the cheapest way to do this is? I don't mind putting a kit together my self If it would save some coin! Thanks as always guys!

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This guy has.

Edit - Sorry. He did it with a Toyota compressor. My impression is, however, that a York would be tough to fit without a big body lift.
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Do lots of research! I have been collecting parts and I have a bracket maid for my 22re but haven't had the time to put it all together. the expensive parts that you don't want to skimp on are the coalescing filter and the pressure switch.

If you buy a cheap filter they usually freeze/break the first year and you will be buying another one making it more expensive in the end.

The pressure switch is important for obvious reasons, so you don't blow out your fittings/lines. I've heard of some people not using a pressure switch and just going with a blow off pressure release valve but it gets annoying when your truck sounds like a semi all the time pssst pssst pssst every 3 min or so.

wire a switch into your cab so that you can turn the compressor on a few min before the end of the trail. That way you don't have to wait a min or two for the system to pressurize.

Get an air tank. preferably 2-3 gallons what ever you can fit. It makes using air tools a lot easier, and puts less stress on the pump. Don't get me wrong I've seen these things run without a tank just fine but it's nice to have that little extra.

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Good luck man I would read the link posted by Volcom That kit seems to be a pretty complete one. The hardest part is sourcing your 210 pump I ended up with 3 pumps that were the wrong one or had the wrong pulley on them. If you need a pump I might have an extra 210 that already has the oil block off mod done.

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Thanks for the info guys! Trying to decide if i want to run Oba or co2.

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Well I've rarely seen anyone run out of OBA. CO2 on the other hand, I've seen buddies who run their lockers off that run out plenty of times. PITA. My 2 cents.




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York > CO2, hands down.

Refilling CO2 bottles gets old pretty quick.
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also look at oasis it think it is. they are basically an electric powered york compressor.




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I'm going to stick with the stock A/C compressor, personally. Throw a small tank on there somewhere and it'll be enough to air up and power tools.
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Air up yes. Power tools? Maybe. You need a decent amount of stored air to do that. Have you ever run air tools of a co2 tank? You'll drain that thing in a hurry. Just something to be aware of.




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What's the CFM rating of the AC compressor? Really needs to be >4 CFM to run an impact gun.

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The York is around 4cfm, not sure about the factory A/C. I'd like to get my A/C fixed so that kinda makes using that compressor a no-go. Not sure if you can fit a York onto a 22RE that retains the A/C, either. I'll do an electric compressor if I have to, but would much prefer an engine-driven high-volume unit.

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What's the CFM rating of the AC compressor? Really needs to be >4 CFM to run an impact gun.
Not 100% sure, but, from the link I posted in the second post:

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And that's that! After buttoning everything up, I flipped the switch on. The compressor fired up, and brought the 7ga tank from 0 to 100psi in about 1 minute, at idle. Speeding the engine up to 2000 cuts that down to about 25-30 seconds. With the engine at 1200, I can use my impact gun to remove six lugs, and it's still at 120psi when I get back to the gauge. A blower tip or die grinder would probably be the only thing necessary to kick up the engine speed above idle for. The rest are all intermittent tools and the compressor can more than keep up with those.
Mind you, that's with a 7-gallon tank.

I was thinking this guy would be a great tank to mount in the former spare tire position.
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I was thinking this guy would be a great tank to mount in the former spare tire position.
That's a good find. But how would you mount it? That would be the challenge.

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I was thinking you could use cross strap with a rubber coating on it. Maybe in an X pattern? Or looking at that handle you might be able mount something off of that.

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I sort of wonder if it would fit in the space between the bars of the stock rollbar on my runner. Off to measure...
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We could weld some tabs to it and bolt it into place.

Be sure it has a drain on the bottom - that's one thing I regret about not having in my bumper tank.

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Your bumper will drain Troy you just have to crack it on a rock.

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Personally, I love my A/C so i'll end up running just an electric compressor to a tank at some point.

A/C > rarely used compressed air any day. lol
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Do you guys know if you still have to oil the compressor? I would think you would need to some how.

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The York has a self-contained oil reservoir. I think that checking it every so often is sufficient.

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why go one or the other? have both, if you run out of CO2 then you can just kick on the compressors, or use the compressors when you have the time and CO2 when you dont....

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That's kinda my philosophy. I got the large ARB compressor so I have the capability to air up tires if necessary, but usually use the CO2 for speed/convenience.

I have got a procedure where I do 30 seconds with the CO2, then go on to the next tire 30 seconds, etc. Then if the tank runs out, everything is close and I can either top off with the ARB or just run it like that until I get home.

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when i had yota ac compressor i just squirted a few drops of air tool oil in the inlet side of the compressor before a trail run......worked fine....or you can install an oiler in line from the inlet to the filter location

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when i had yota ac compressor i just squirted a few drops of air tool oil in the inlet side of the compressor before a trail run......worked fine....or you can install an oiler in line from the inlet to the filter location
Air tool Oil is NOT the same as Compressor oil. For long term use/in the future, it would be wise to put some compressor oil in a bottle that you could do the same with. Or install an oiler.

IMO The stock AC pump, while it works great and is sufficient, just takes too much maint. I prefer the York because it is cheap, has a great CFM rate, and virtually maint. free. An air oil separator is recommended and even with the oil plug mod some oil does get into the lines, but with a tank for the oil/condensation to collect in, oil in the tires and water in the tools shouldn't be a problem.

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An air oil separator is recommended and even with the oil plug mod some oil does get into the lines, but with a tank for the oil/condensation to collect in, oil in the tires and water in the tools shouldn't be a problem.
If you're planning on that technique, you need to drain the tank every use. If it starts collecting the oil/water much at all, it will just pass on through.

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