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Im debating getting a 1" body lift for my truck after getting my new bumper on this weekend. those of you that were there know that there is NO gap between the bumper and body.

since im planning on running 35/12.5s eventually anyway would this be worthwhile? the gap between the pinch weld and my sliders is 0" so I dont think I would need to worry much about relocating my sliders.

the rear bumper needs new mounts anyway so thats not a concern.

so would a 1" body lift now be the best solution for my bumper clearance issues and later tire fitment issues? I know ill still have to tub the firewalls for the tires but an inch would help.

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and this isnt another generic should I body lift it thread. this is specific to my truck and the issues stated above. so id appreciate input from those who know my truck.

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I'd go for it if I were you... front bumper clearance problems should go away. Your sliders might look a little funny, but with just an inch, it'll go unnoticed by everybody except those of us who will just make shit up to give you a hard time about it, so you really have nothing to loose there.

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IIRC you can't fit 35's with just 3.5 inch lift and a 1" body... i have a 2" and i can stuff 33's no issues


and then its an excuse to get a short throw shifter.... mmmmm short throw. well i guess that only counts if you have a manual...

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I wish I had done a body lift before all the armor.

If you get a quality one (like 4Crawler) there are almost no downsides, and as you pointed out, several advantages.

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4crawler is who I would go to troy. I feel like it would help more than it would hurt at this point since all my armor is so tight to the body anyway. and no rich, I wont be able to fit 35s with just my lift +1" body lift. but I know i wont have as much firewall tubbing as nate did.

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I don't know your truck, but I agree that a good quality one does wonders for fitment issues, and Roger's are first rate. I've never had problems even with my 3" one, but it was done using high quality components, and the Runner has been on trails in Moab and others like that. You should be fine.
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after reading through 4crawlers website it seems that they have made 1/2" body lifts in the past. that would fix my bumper clearance issues but wouldnt really help much with tire fitment down the line. thoughts?

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i still say.... you dont resolve tire fitment issues until you go to 1.5" to fit 33x12.5.... if you aren't going that route then a 1"should be fine

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I wouldn't bother with the hassle of doing a 1/2" over a 1".. you're not going to notice the 1/2" difference between the 2. If I remember right, he'll charge you for the 1" even if he has to cut them down to 1/2", so there's no $$ savings.

BTW, I have 1" pucks somewhere for my bed, I'm not 100% sure on the diameter of the taco body mounts, but you could test fit mine to see what 1" is going to look like before you order

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I think Im just going to call 4crawler this afternoon since the bumper banging on my body is driving me crazy. the worst it will do is make my gap in the sliders look huge (to me). I doubt anyone else will notice. and if its that big of a deal I can always relocate them if I really have to.

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IIRC you can't fit 35's with just 3.5 inch lift and a 1" body... i have a 2" and i can stuff 33's no issues
You cant? really? I'm doing it with about 3" of lift, and no body lift. True 35's too with no rubbing

just body lift it jay, means you'll have to tub less when you go 35's as well. So your clutch feel will be more comfortable, where as in mine I have to use almost strictly just the tip of my shoe to get it down. I tubbed a lot of extra room out in my firewall though (to allow for different alignment specs down the road, etc.)
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I think the key word in that post was "just"... you're clearing after tubbing, which is more than "JUST" a 3.5" + 1" BL.

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I think the key word in that post was "just"... you're clearing after tubbing, which is more than "JUST" a 3.5" + 1" BL.
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so 4crawlers customer support blows. I emailed them (dont list a phone number on their website) asking if with a 1" you do need things like the steering extension ect or if I can get away with pucks and hardware. all he did was email me a link to the exact page where I had quoted him part numbers off of. would I need a steering extension with it? i know i dont need the bumper brackets. im just trying to keep it as cheap as I can.

and with a 1" i know there will still be tubbing required to go 35s. but I know it will be a lot less.

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so 4crawlers customer support blows. I emailed them (dont list a phone number on their website) asking if with a 1" you do need things like the steering extension ect or if I can get away with pucks and hardware. all he did was email me a link to the exact page where I had quoted him part numbers off of. would I need a steering extension with it? i know i dont need the bumper brackets. im just trying to keep it as cheap as I can.

and with a 1" i know there will still be tubbing required to go 35s. but I know it will be a lot less.
I guess you didn't read the FAQ's where it specifically answers your question. You know.. that link that says "Frequenly asked questions with answer too" and the "Please read this"

HINT: you don't need to do anything else with just 1"

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wrong doug. for tacos you do need a steering extension.

i went ahead and ordered a 1".

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I have that exact same body lift and it does require an extension from what I recall... His site isn't intuitive at all but the answers are on there...

I had the same thing, about an 1/8 inch between the pinch welds and the slider (pre body lift), but I'm only running 33's and only rub with compression.

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that is by far the worst designed website ive seen but you are right, i did need the steering extension.

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So, he replied to your email (an in my dealings with him, probably in an hour or less, but certainly the same day) and that's BAD customer service? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

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his website has always been terrible.....


i still vote for the 2" though you have to do stuff to fix the gas filler....


oh and unhook all your electrical stuff from your battery, when you are jacking up the cab sometime it gets a bit tight there... everything should fit once youre done though

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So, he replied to your email (an in my dealings with him, probably in an hour or less, but certainly the same day) and that's BAD customer service? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
i emailed him links to his website asking specific questions about certain options. he replied, take a look at these links, they should explain everything. They were the exact links I sent him.

finally after reading through the entire website i got my questions answered though.

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i still vote for the 2" though you have to do stuff to fix the gas filler....


oh and unhook all your electrical stuff from your battery, when you are jacking up the cab sometime it gets a bit tight there... everything should fit once youre done though
im not redoing my sliders so 2" is out of the question. the bumper needs a small amount of clearance and my sliders are too tight for comfort. so a 1" will fix those issues. Also, planning on running 35s, 1" will help with tire fitment. tubbing will still be needed but not as much as nate had to do.

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im not redoing my sliders so 2" is out of the question. the bumper needs a small amount of clearance and my sliders are too tight for comfort. so a 1" will fix those issues. Also, planning on running 35s, 1" will help with tire fitment. tubbing will still be needed but not as much as nate had to do.
Also keep in mind, if you're going to run a 35" radial its going to run small (more like 34") so you really wont have to tub that much at all.
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well with the budget right now its going to be this time next year before i go 35s. so ill have plenty of time over the summer/fall to get a tire and play the fit-n-trim game. after all nate, getting a 35 radial will have to be a 12.5 also. so ill have to see what hell that extra width rains. but I have plenty of time to figure it out. BL will be here early next week. throw it on over next weekend and do my rock lights, and do fluids and ill be ready for AZ if i can make it.

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the width is what will cause your trimming.... a 35 fits into the wheel well with some trimming at the lower part of the wheelwell.... but if you want to turn then you have to figure something out

also plan on like 3.5 - 3.75 BS wheels to make sure you dont have any contact issues with the UCA

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you needed the steering extension? I was pretty sure that was only needed after 1". Sorry for the misdirection. I know it wasn't needed on my 85 and yeah, I'm well aware that there's differences between taco and the 85, but was pretty sure I'd read that 1" didn't need anything other than longer bolts and the pucks.

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the straight shaft of the taco steering will pull out the lower section just enough to cause problems, even with a 1". it wasnt a huge expense so i figured better safe than sorry.

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well with the budget right now its going to be this time next year before i go 35s. so ill have plenty of time over the summer/fall to get a tire and play the fit-n-trim game. after all nate, getting a 35 radial will have to be a 12.5 also. so ill have to see what hell that extra width rains. but I have plenty of time to figure it out. BL will be here early next week. throw it on over next weekend and do my rock lights, and do fluids and ill be ready for AZ if i can make it.
Mines not much more narrow than a 35x12.5 will be if you mount it on a 7" or 8" width wheel. The core of my tire is about 10.5, every 4th lug that sticks out is pretty close to 12". I'll have to put a tape on it again and double check though.

Also, running 35's you'll have to run spacers or a low offset wheel to keep the tires off of the upper a-arm, it's going to be much more than 3.5 or 3.75 offset. I'm at about a 2.5" offset with my 1.5" spacers and comfortable clear the UCA but not by much, i also rub on the frame hard before I even get to full lock. If you go aftermarket wheels I'd look into a 2" backspaced for 35's, just more food for thought.
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